Excuzeme: People who have something Upstairs, will say it, those who dont, will resort to abuse and Insult. I will ignore you henceforth. Seems you are IRREDEEMABLE.
Amayabor1: Lol. So if Finland and Sweden joins NATO tomorrow, Putin will stop strategic missiles from being placed in countries that are now in NATO? Una too funny Sha
But he was raking before that there will be consequences if Finland and Sweden join Nato. What changed?
For your information, any NATO country can house Nato's strategic weapons. If Sweden and Finland joins NATO tomorrow, NATO will place strategic weapons in Finland and Sweden and nothing Russia can do about it.
Russia can't stop Finland and Sweden from joining Nato but it is after they join that Russia will stop NATO from deploying weapons in Finland and Sweden. Una too funny abeg
Excuzeme: Habba! Stop using Insults and foul language to convey whatever you want to say! It does not show maturity or good Upbringing.
You have the Right to air your own Opinion, just like anyone here, You dont have to accept what those on the other side say, and they dont have to accept yours but we all deserve a "Healthy Space" where we can learn from each other, free of these sort of Insults and Abuses that undermine whatever you are saying. I am certain you have more important things to say, so why waste time on Insults, instead of saying those things, so other people can learn from you?
There are lot of difference between Finland/Sweden and Ukraine: 1) Russia and Ukraine are in a border dispute over Crimea, Russia does not have a border dispute with Sweden/Finland. With Ukraine in NATO, that military Group HAS TO PHYSICALLY fight on behalf of Ukraine! That is why the Article of Association says "You cant join NATO (or even the E.U), if you are currently engage in a War with another country".
2) Sweden/Finland have friendly Relations with Russia, they have Non-Aggression treaties, Russia does not have that with Ukraine.
3) Ukraine is trying to secretly develop Nuclear Weapons. Just like Israel will not accept its neighbor, Iran develop Nuclear Weapons (Existential threats) and it still bombed them last Weekend), Russia will not allow Ukraine to develop a Nuclear bomb. Sweden and Finland have No Interest in the Nuclear Bomb.
4) Ukraine was also developing Chemical and Biological Weapons. Finland and Sweden are not. Russia raided the WMD Laboratories in Ukraine (they tried to destroy as much of it as possible), sieved the items and documents and presented them to the UN Security Council. (I can bet, 90% of People commenting here have not read that Report, I have read it and have a Copy).
So, in conclusion, We cant compare Sweden/Finland joining NATO, to Ukraine trying to joing NATO, they are a World apart, when it comes to the Threat it posses to Russia. Every Country with the Muscle to Act, will do so, if the action of its Neighbor threatens its Security.
I know a lot of People dont appreciate Russia, we dont appreciate the stability they are bringing to the table, when it comes to "Geo-Balance" in the World Order. Just like we never appreciated the USSR until it was imploded by America and then we all saw ho America was matching and inflicting War on one country after another, with No one to challenge its hegemony. But it was too late, USSR was gone already.
"Majority of the Masses cannot be trusted to take the right decisions that is best for them, that is why we have "Government and Leaders", let us just hope they are not like the Nigerians Leaders/Government.
NB: No Offense, l will be glad to read your own OPINION as well, just let it be devoid of Abuses/Insults. We are all learning from each other.
Excuzeme: Problem with most Nigerians is that they lack Analytical Skills or maybe they are just too lazy to seek information and would just make ignorant unfounded statements that lack any form of credit!
In Ukraine, the War is still ongoing and Ukrainian Officials just confirmed that "Russia is taking Village and Village, though their advance is slow but Certain". I have quoted it Verbatim. Does that sound like Russia is tired/defeated?
Yesterday, Russia paraded about 1700 Ukrainian Special Forces, (Battalion 34th and 36th) and the "crack" Azov Battalions that it Captured and they SURRENDERED. It was on many TV Stations, (including our own ARISE NEWS) though CNN refuse to carry it so that it can continue to fool Americans that Ukraine is "fighting and advancing" against Russia. Does that sound like a defeated or tired Army?
About HALF of all GAZPROM Customers (European Countries that put Sanctions on Russian Energy) have OPENED RUBLE Bank Accounts as of today! Italy just said it would take far longer than it thought, to win itself off Russian Energy (meaning, paying in Ruble is Game! ). Does that look like a Russia that is crippled and tired?
The Russian Currency has gained FIVE TIMES its Pre-War Value, as of TODAY and still increasing, while Europe and America are steeped in spiraling Inflation, due to High Energy and Food Costs! Even Baby Food is in Shortage in America, as of Today. Does that sound like a Russia whose Economy is destroyed?
MrBiggs (of America) Business Franchise in Russia has just been BOUGHT OVER by a Russian, other Fast Foods like KFC to follow. Does that look like Russia facing food Shortages or Economy suffering?
On Sweden and Finland: Truth is, Russia is in a War with over "30 Countries" and it is still STANDING. It deserves respect joor. As long as all these Countries, are supplying Weapons to Ukraine, training Ukrainian Soldiers to use them, Discretely Supplying "Contract Soldiers and Mercenaries" to Ukraine, to fight Russia, Supplying Military Intelligence to Ukraine (Troop and Weapons Movement, target Coordinates for Missiles, etc), ALL those over THIRTY COUNTRIES are in a "Pseudo War" with Russia. It does not matter what anyone thinks or says, the FACTS is what l have stated above., Happy about it or not, is immaterial. "Weapons and Intelligence" is what wins War of the 21st Century, not the number of Troops you station somewhere, that can be wiped out with a Missile.
No one expects Russia to start another War with Sweden, they have No Existing Dispute at the Moment. America and Europe (NATO) are just trying to "drag" everyone around Russia into their "Orbit of Control", so it can give them advantage over Russia. Not one of these Countries ON IT OWN, can face Russia, that is why they need to gang-Up.
Russia has done what it needs to do and what it always do: Lay Down the WARNING! Whether Sweden and Finland decide to heed it or not, is their own problem. Any sane Country knows that it is disadvantageous, especially if you are facing threats from multiple Nations, including America, to start another War when the "Threat is not as imminent" ....... unlike the case with Ukraine.
Even America "took steps" to reduce its number of Enemies, when this War started! For example: - America which has put Turkey under sanctions (Sweden and Finland also did at the same time) since early last year, decided that it is not in its interest, to make Turkey an Enemy at this point, otherwise it will side with Russia! America quickly reversed all its sanctions on Turkey! It even decided to SELL the F-35 Fighter Jets it said it would not sell to Turkey before (they built it together, Turkey invested over $5Billion, Man-Power and Software into it but America just "kicked them out" because they bought Russian S-4000 Missiles!) Now, America is the one begging Turkey. You see why it is not just only Russia that knows it limits?
- Venezuela, with the largest Oil Reserve in the World, was reduced to a poor Country, due to American Sanctions on its Oil. It cannot Sell its oil to anyone, America also sieved its Foreign Reserve! But due to this Russia/Ukraine War, leading to shortage of Energy World Wide, America went abegging to Venezuela and is urging it to ramp up and start exporting Oil to "American Allies" in Europe! Na so, "Strong-Man" take calm down to small Venezuela. Why should Russia be different?
The list is endless. Even to test its Hypersonic Missile whose Tests was already scheduled before the War started and it was to take place TWO WEEKS after the War started, America POSTPONED the Test (It just did it last Monday!) because, according to it, it does not want to spook Russia and make it think it was launching a Missile at it, so that Russia will not go and RETALLIATE for something that was not intended. That is America using its brain and "calming down" before it regrets its action.
So, for all those gloating here about Russia not invading Sweden or Finland because they applied to join NATO, sounds "somehow" to me. I will think that we should be more objective than this, if we want to venture into discussing International Issues that are critical to everybody/ It this was in the "Romance Section" and we are catching cruise, l wont mind at all but we are talking about "WAR, Nuclear Powered Countries, Hundreds of thousands of Lives and Destinies at Stake, etc.
NB: The above are just my Opinion, for Academic Purposes only, l have No Horse in this Race.
alabo1: Go and read you will not. Finland and Sweden in NATO pose no threat unless strategic missiles are deployed there. Ukraine poses a major threat due to its geographical location and Russian previous experiences with invasions. You Western BOTS will never read only get your information from CNN
How is the geographical location of Ukraine different from that of Finland where Russia is concerned? Do both countries not share the same border with Russia?
You Putin bots always sound stupid when you want to defend the one whose ass you so love to lick
alabo1: You still don't get it. The main objective are to get Eastern Ukraine -Done
2. Get Maripol- Control of the Azov Sea-Almost done
3. Destabilise Ukraine so she can never join NATO since her status with the 2 breakaway Republics will maintain that- done
Maintain the Easter territories annexed as they are the main industrial and arable parts of Ukraine -Done hence the digging deep. The aim was never to capture the entire Ukraine? What advantage would that be? You honestly think Russia is fighting a full scale war here? You forget that Ukrainians are 60% ethnic Russians in some regions. The aim is to minimise collateral damage.
What happened in Syria when Russia went all out? Is this the same thing? Please follow this war from other sources and not just CNN and you will realise it is not as the West will have you believe. Peace
atmy1: FYI, Croatia has just joined in opposing Finland and Sweden's bid. Meanwhile Finland said they will only join NATO if they don't build any military base in their country.
Croatia cannot Oppose Finland and Swedens Bid to join NATO.
You Putin Bots seem to always want to hold on to anything that seems like it favors you and it is just amusing to watch
The President of Croatia cannot veto their Bid because he does not have such powers.
The one with the powers In Croatia has already given his full and unbridled support.
First attached image explains it and the second is from the one with the authority to Veto or Approve.
The President of Croatia is useless in this regard.
VirileNelly2420: I really have no spare time for ur rhetorics anymore. But whoever did dis to u, e no go better foram!!
Always calculating distance and fire power. As if u b war strategist.
I know u and ur ilks were calculating such statistics at Mariupol, how fortified and resilient azov battalions are. Dey went ahead and surrendered. Una no gree, still dey call am evacuation.
What I think u should do is to sit back and enjoy d show while it unfolds. C'est fini
alabo1: You guys make me laugh. The news is only from one side. So the Russian troops are just there doing nothing abo?. We shall see the end. Remember Crimea
Crimea was taken when Ukraine had a Putin Puppet as President. Not anymore.
Russia actually doing something
They are staging in Lyma and have deployed 2 of their Terminator laser tanks in Luhansk. They only have 9 of those as a whole in Russia so for them to release 2 to Luhansk then they are expecting a major offensive from Ukraine toward their direction
If they were indeed winning in general then there would be no need for them to dig deep by deploying 2 out of their 9 Terminator laser tanks wouldn't you say so?
atmy1: Sorry, you haven't answered why they reached Russia's borders but cannot proceed further. Are they so nice to leave Russia alone without taking territory their?
Sorry you are not making any sense (it's not like you ever do anyway)
Why would Ukraine take Russian territory when they are focused on taken their own back?
If you actually took your time to watch the video you would still see one body left in the back of an open personnel carrier with flies flying all over it.
Abi you no get Data?
The lead soldier pointed it out to the guy holding the camera
atmy1: Where are the dead bodies from this battle? How come we are seeing only drone footage. The Ukrainians can't even get closer to the Russians they killed?
Bigchristo: The Ukrainian forces always win in social media while Russia is doing serious damage behind the scenes which the western media propaganda won’t allow their praise singers know, where I give up is when over 1,500 Ukrainian fighters surrendered at Mariupol steel plant they tagged it evacuation, so Russia is now evacuating its enemies from war zone? It’s only a foolish thinker will bank on what the western media are saying, even the EU which claimed to be hitting tough on Russ are still secretly buying their natural gas and crude oil, for how long will the media keep deceiving you people?
Ukraine is always winning on social media just like when they killed 485 Russian soldier who tried to cross the Donetsk River and also destroyed 70 of their military equipment right?
Themandator: Mr. Those guys have been in that steel plants for almost a month. They received orders to surrender.. The idea is to exchange them as prisoners of war... Red Cross already registered them as Pow
Something you just know about Ukraine, no step is taken without maximum consideration....
Their surrender is not like the usual surrender of fighting men. They where holed up inside the giant steel complex.. What is the use?
The commanders did not surrender. They are still inside the Azovstal steel plant. They have a special mission inside so couldn't leave.
BloomingDale: Gog and Magog is Israel. Don’t be fooled.
You do not even know what you are saying. Which Gog and Magog is Israel?
Read below:
Ezekiel 38:1-2: The word of the Lord came to me: “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal;
Magog, Meshech, and Tubal were all sons of Japheth, who was one of the three sons of Noah. Jepheth and his family migrated to the area of modern-day Russia (Genesis 10:2-3).
Gog is a person who rules over the land of Magog(Russia).Magog means the "Prince of Rosh." (Gog) Rosh is the old root word for the land of Russia.
God informs Gog and Magog in Ezekiel 38:15, "You will come from your place in the far North” (the Hebrew word means "the uttermost part of the North." What's north of Jerusalem? Moscow. What is north Russia? Nothing. Meshech is the old name for the capital of Western Russia, which is known today as Moscow. Tubal is identified as a city in Siberia.
bakar007: Turkey have problems with Sweden and Finland sponsoring Kurds which are terrorist according to turkey, same Kurds the US used to slit Syria and steal their crude right Turkey allowed Greece to join NATO today Greece standing up to turkey why should turkey make same mistake with these two??
Russia likewise China has their own identity as a people and will not be influenced by the outside world ,the west must learn democracy and western practices is not for everyone.
Everything you see it all about democracy vs ...... , Like I said democracy is not for everyone ,all the bloodshed is the middle east is yet to produce any democratic success nor in Iraq, Syria,Libyan, Afghanistan among others.
Kindly tell me why NATO is trying to circle Russia militarily if not for future war
Sweden and Finland joining NATO is same as declaring war on Russia.
Why is Cuba still suffering from US sanctions?
Why is the US , Australia and New Zealand threatening military actions against Solomon's island for having a military cooperation with china ? Is Solomon Islands not sovereign territory is make their own decisions
Hypocrisy is the problem of the west , US and NATO invaded Iraq and kill millions they claim iraq was security threat, for a country that doesn't share borders with any NATO country nor have the resource to harm any . Yet have problems with Russia defending a direct threat at her borders right??
Kindly tell me why all the countries around Russia are joining NATO and not on the side of Russia.
NATO is designed for defence and not attack.
Why is Russia so afraid of NATO if it does not have any future plans to attack Europe as it did Ukraine?
There are other countries in Europe who are not NATO members yet NATO countries are their neighbours. Why do they not have issues with NATO?
Use your head for once and see beyond your Nose. What is Russia so afraid of when it comes to an organization that is DEFENSIVE?
TONYE001: 1. The source is an international news platform.
2. The source and other news outlets from its country (and other western nations) have broken news of Russian wins/gains in this war. Somehow, any news favouring Russia and its interests is accepted but those favouring Ukraine are tagged as propaganda.
3. Again, somehow, any info emanating from Russian/eastern media is accepted since the narratives suit the desires of pro-Russian readers. This is so even though there has been reports of Russian media's loss of autonomy.
4. My point is, we tend to only accept information that suit our narratives. In doing this, we forget that we rely on these same international media houses for over 80% of the news we digest.
5. The above is the nature of the human mind.
Abeg what is your favorite brand of liquor... I need to get you a truck full.
atmy1: It is possible Ukraine shoots down a few Russian tanks and later suffers hundreds of losses. How come Ukraine is killing so many Russians but the Russians are gaining so much ground. I can count almost 20 settlements they have taken in the past one week alone. Meanwhile they reached the border of Russia but cannot enter Russia. What is stopping them? SMH.
On the contrary Ukraine took 23 settlements in the past 2 weeks alone. Russia never took any 20 settlements in 1 week when they have literally concentrated efforts in Donbas.
Russian progress has literally been stopped or seriously slowed down while Ukrainian progress has rapidly increased as they have gone on offensive while Russia is largely now defensive.
Why try to join NATO in the first place ? Just Politicians selling the citizens for US interest. Anyway Turkey and Croatia already opposing them joining.
Why do the same politicians not embrace Russia if Russia is a bed of roses for them?
Why would basically almost all of Europe find solace in each other except with Russia if Russia was such a great and warm hearted country?
This is not a USA issue but a Russian problem. They destroy relationships and then try to make it look like you are the one to blame.
Croatia cannot oppose Finland or Sweden from Joining NATO. Their President is the one saying he would direct their ambassador to oppose it but ironically their President has no such power or business to interfere with NATO or her decisions.
The decision is made by the North Atlantic Council, which consists of ambassadors from the 30 member states.
In essence he cannot instruct his Ambassador to do anything as that is against the laws governing NATO.
His opinion is therefore Useless.
Regarding Turkey it's just a diplomatic problem regarding the Kurds and weapons they want from USA and possible lifting of some sanctions placed on them.
That would also be resolved diplomatically. So don't worry too much
Pastorsmile: Russia can annihilates, USA, Germany, France and the whole of NATO countries in 3 days! Putin is the strongest Man that ever lived since God created the world and will be forever. Putin may not even die. Hahaha! Super power indeed!
He is closer to his grave than you clearly are to sense
Foreign Affairs › Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Igbofam2: 7:53am On May 20, 2022
Turkey allowed Greece to join NATO today Greece standing up to turkey why should turkey make same mistake with these two