Unfortunately,i don't see any need for the superiority assertions. I thought he had a valid reason for creating a seperate Bantu race and identity. Whatever Bantus have produced, Igbos alone have surpassed you over and over again not to talk of West Africa put together.

tpiar:



Are you saying nowhere outside west africa worships deities?

Don't mind the Bantu scamp. Bantus have gods,they venerate their ancestors,they believe in Sky beings, Spirits and Monsters. These examples run through the whole of Africa in different forms,styles and names. He is just being ignorant and foollish.

alanmwene:

bantu genetics gave bantus the edge to conquer 1/2 of Africa and bring civilization almost everywhere in Africa.Bantu genetics produced nelson mandela,king shaka,queen nzinga,lumumba,eusebia,samuel etoo,great Zimbabwe,the Kongo kingdom,kimpa vita,samora machel,agostinho neto,kimathi,etc........Bantu genetics is the reason why 8 out of 10 best countries in black Africa are bantus.Comparing igbos to bantus is like comparing a mouse to an elephant.

Each group in Africa has produced great men and women. If you were White,you would be called a racist with your illogical and stupid line of thought.
What are the composites of a bantu genetics? How does the Bantu genetics differ from the genetics of other Africans? That is my question not how many notable people you have produced. Once again, Bantu is not an ethnicity and Igbo ethnic group alone can take down the whole Bantu people if you want us to toll that path.
You should sit down and study West Africa before throwing up these useless comparisons!

Radoillo:


Ozioma would appear to be a pretty common Ebira name, with a completely different meaning from the Igbo Ozioma.

Yeah, She submitted the Ebira meaning of Ozioma but i've not come across other Ebira people with that name,so i can't say if it's actually popular. The reason for the presence of Igbo or igboish names and words in Ebira is the motivation behind the Op's thread.

Hol'up! What is so special and unique about Bantu genetics? I don't see what qualifies Bantu to be a race,otherwise Igbo would have been a race a long time ago!

I believe Radillio has already supplied your questions on religious diversity in Sub Saharan Africa. I don't have to do same things with you because we come from Africa.
The problem with you is that you are looking for answers and you approach your quest in a wrong manner.
I don't have the time to cite examples of the numerous differences between Igbo and Yoruba, Efik and Yoruba, Nigeria and Ivory Coast etc eventhough we have interacted with each other for many years.
Acknowledging the diversity in Africa doesn't mean that Bantu is a different race and not related to West Africans and by extention the rest of Africa. What we are trying to explain is that Bantus are close relatives of Nigerians, Ghanaians and other West Africans. Years of research in Genetics,linguistics, culture and anthropology has clarified this issue.
Nah, Bantu is not a race and ethinc group. It's just a linguistic subgroup of the larger Niger Congo group. You are taking the word 'Bantu' so seriously.
Next time, drop these comparisons with Igbo and Yoruba. There are hundreds of other Non Bantu speaking group you can use for your comparisons.

Mercy Johnson is an Ebira. Sometime ago,she said her native name was Ozioma which is an Igbo name. Since Ozioma is not a mainsteam Ebira word or name,it's not wrong to say Ebiras probably adopted or borrowed certain Igbo words arising from their interactions with Igbo people.

Lmao!

Lol,i'm tired to say the least.
All i see is someone trying so hard to seperate himself from his Parent family eventhough Genetics,Linguistics and traditions are against him!
Bantus migrated out of West Africa,displaced and even absolved whichever people they came across. It's obvious they would display peculiar cultural,genetic and linguistic features which may or may not be found in West Africa.
Swahili is a result of the interaction with non Bantu groups,the language contains words borrowed from Arabic language. There are also few words from Hindi and Portuguese in Swahili. Even in my culture,there is nothing like a homogenous Igbo people. People pick up certain things born out of growth/change or interactions with foreigners. Does that make anyone less Igbo?
I don't know much about Northern Africa but ritual killings occur in Nigeria,Congo,Tanzania to South Africa etc

This type of argument is tiring.

On yesterday's episode,Jigyasa looked so good in green. That woman,Aunty Bello and Jai Walia are the beautiful people on The Promise.

I like Ganga- Bani's child. She and Ansh of Married again are the most vibrant and talented kids on zeeworld.

TonySpike:



You might be mistaken! At least 80% of African population came from a singular genetic source. The genetic pool became differentiated over thousands of year due to the effect of adaptation and local climatic factors. Language itself also became differentiated having undergone several evolutions in this same period. The languages we have now have in Africa is a process that has taken over 5,000 years to be differentiated. Therefore, I can tell you that the Yoruba language spoken about 700 years ago is not the same spoken now. Even English has undergone transformation in structure and spelling in the last 300 years! Take the Old King James Bible for example and compare the words used with the New International Version: the difference is clear! Bro, are you assuming that African languages have remained the same for the past 5,000 years for instance?

I'll tell you something, never use anglicized alphabets to project your point. In some parts of Nigeria and parts of Africa, "p" sound is written as "kp" or "b", "f" sound is written as "ph", "f" sound could also be written as "v", "o" sound is written as "Ho", "c" sound is written as "k" and so on. It is even worse when you consider how French use theirs in Africa language. You should also know that language acquisition could be as a result of assimilation, cultural admixture and colonization irrespective of the actual haplogroup.

Thank you.

mistytohcute:



we dey fine

welcome back

Thank you o. Abeg,what happened to Gangi? She has repented? Last time i saw her,she was very hostile to Laali.

alanmwene:

Bantus don't share anything with igbos.yorubas,hausas,etc.........All genetic studies have proven this point time and time again.Bantus are on their own in Africa!Igbos and yorubas have a lot in common coz they belong to the same sudano-sahelian race.I don't know where you get the idea that bantus are somehow related to igbos and yorubas.

Sorry to bust your bubbles! Bantu cannot be on its own. Bantu,Igbo and Yoruba belong to the same Linguistic family - The Niger Congo Group,hence the similarities in culture and language.
What is Sudano Sahelian race biko?

I thought they said only Africans are diabolical? I'm watching Laali and The Promise right now,and i keep seeing Black Magic and Juju stuffs in these episodes. I don't see any difference between Africans and Indians apart from the skin tone and hair texture sha. How una dey?

All i see on this page is someone who is full of hated and resentments for Igbos!
How are Igbos claiming all Blacks in the Americas? 95percent of what we know about Igbo slaves in the diasporal was written by non igbos and foreign slave dealers. A good number of African American have also written about their Igbo heritage and ancestry.
We have people like Olaudah Equiano etc that wrote about the Igbo identity in the diaspora.
I don't care about the number of Efik,Senegambia, Cameroon, Bantu, Igbo and Yoruba slaves sold to America,but i'm more interested in the number of the descendents of these People that come out to claim Igbo ancestry.
One particular trend i've noticed is that most African Americans tend to throw up and identify as Igbo and Nigerian even before they go for a DNA test. Some of them with heterogenous West African ancestral genes even tend to stick to their Igbo sides,a typical example are people like Danny Glover and Blair Underwood,look them up!
How are igbos suddenly claiming them?
The Survival of Igbo customs and words in the Carribbean proves that a good number of Igbos were shipped to those places.
More often than not, DNA test throws up a significant amount of Igbo ancestry amongst African Americans.
I don't care of any bantu ancestry or the number of Bantu slaves in America. Slavery shouldn't have happened,it is not an achievement or symbol of pride but i'm interested in people that have come out to embrace their Igbo ancestry.

Eke40seven:
I'm even surprised that you would stoop to giving his comment a second look talkmore of spending precious minutes dignifying him with a reply. You should know by now that stupidity is a genetic disorder in many humans. What modern science can't find solution to. I agree with your earlier assertion that there are more light skinned people from Abia/Imo than from Anambara. I don't know much about Enugu though and I still believe that the jewish links are downright ridiculous.

I rather stoop low and correct an erroneous assertion than let people come here and go off with the wrong impression. There is no point keeping quiet in this type of situation.
Well,i wasn't the one that brought in the Jewish factor in the equation. I have always maintained that Igbos are just Igbos till further researches are carried out in the future.

Antivirus92:
do u see how no anambra person bothered arguing with u on this matter. how did u know that there are more lighskin people in imo and abia than in anambra?
did u conduct any head count?
I have observed u on naira land and I find out that like most imo and abia folks u have that mentality that anambra people are cheats and are always priding themselves as kings over other igbos.
you always counter anything anambra....its not good to your health and Igbo unity.
here in anambra we give no damn about u guys..

Same way i don't give a damn about you or where you come from!
Take away this your foolishh Anambra vs Imo and Abia mentality and judge issues without being overly clannish and sensitive. I have travelled all over igboland and i discovered that there are more light skin people in Imo,Abia down to Akwaibom and Calabar. This may be caused by environmental factors, because Imo,Abia etc are more closeted and fall under the heavy rain forest tropical region while Anambra and Enugu fall under subtropical savannah region.
It's quite difficult to argue with Yorubas and Non Igbos. I try as much as possible to defend my ethnic group in the face of tribalism and all sorts of misconception about Igbos on nairaland;it's even more difficult to defend Imo and Abia people from Fooolishh and Clannish Igbos like you.
What have i said wrong on this matter? I can't counter a false statement again? What i said was even acknowledged by many Igbos on this thread. Why do you have to single me out to display your prejudice against Imo/Abia people?
Let this be the last time you mention me as long as nairaland exist!

Sike:
Use your head now!

I shouldn't write in Igbo again because of a silly username? Ha! Biko,this is a decent thread,don't derail it.

Sike:
That's my Username pls!

How does that concern me?

suyu:


can you explain this thread then of the Jewish ancestry claim that I have heard from some igbos on nairaland

https://www.nairaland.com/226540/igbos-descendent-sudanese-igala-mixed

Thank God you called it a ''claim''.

MayorofLagos:
@OP

There is a skin disorder in the Ibo gene. Its related with a leprous mutation. Untriggered it surfaces mildly as a piedald patch or skin stains or discoloration around the brow, nose, lips, elbows, knuckles, knees, toes and so on... Fully blown it escalates to leprosy and disfigurement.

The yellowness you observe as prominent amongst Iboes is the foundation and a hint at this genetic disorder. Studies show 9 out of every 10 yellow Ibo will end either with the mild or exagerated form of the disease. Some start off with the mild form but left untreated degenerate into leprosy. Typically the yellowness begin to fade, replaced by a spread of the white patches and skin baldness around age 45.

Pls don't write nonesense here!! This is entirely made up by tribalist like you. Igbo people are not the only light skin blacks on the face of the earth and leprosy is not common in igboland. People lose their tone due to years of toiling under the harsh sunlight. I'm yet to see a grown adult get leprosy,discoloured and disfigured in Igboland. Na wa o!


Take your ignorant unconfounded trash out of this thread.
Like i wrote earlier,non Igbos are so obsessed and fixated on light skin igbos till they start making up rubbish reasons for the existence of light skin among igbos.
This is the most stupidd comment i have read regarding light skin people in Africa.
Proudly Igbo and Proudly Light Skinned.

Haha! This rumoured Igbo and yoruba kinship would keep giving researchers sleepless nights because of the many loop holes in West African history.
Lol,according to Acholonu, Igbo and Yoruba were same people before Eri and Oduduwa arrived. According to her, both of them were brothers since they came through same mysterious circumstances but the later went ahead to corrupt the proto language spoken by igbos and yoruba cos he wanted to rule over the people he met. That is why Igbo and yoruba languages are different today. Apart from that,he also introduced his culture and way of life to his new converts(yorubas).
Lol! No piece of work should be bashed unless you have a contrary view or opinion supported by the literary world. I guess the lesson to draw out of this,is that Igbos and Yorubas,including the Edos had some form of kinship in pre historic history,unfortunately,oral records couldn't retain all of it.

P.s This is Acholonu's position on this issue not mine before some people start being tribalistic.

Ji sike! Chukwu gba gi ume. I have joined the thread and discussion.

Which people use Uru? As in Uruala?

Well,Uhu and Ulo cannot be interchanged. Uhu is an ancestral home,a village, a larger settlement, communal home which is made up of different members of different families, while Ulo is a single or personal house.
For example,a man based in Enugu but from Isuilwuato would say ''Uhu'' when he wants to travel home.
But in his Uhu,that is Isuikwuato,he would say Ama when he wants to enter his ancestral kindred but will say Ulo when he is directly referring to his 'house' made up of his wife and kids. A man cannot say he has built an Uhu in his village. Dem no born am well!! He cannot build an Uhu. His ancestors has already discovered and settled down in his Uhu. But he can build his personal Ulo in his Uhu. You get the difference now?
I believe Uhu covered all other forms of house in the past,but nowadays, uhu and ulo stand for two different forms of habitation.

L'ezi? That's why you should open your mind and learn about other igbo people and dialects beyond Anambra/Enugu.
Your dialect use Dee emee but certain dialects say La emee,that is what we are trying to explain.

Personally,i don't consider the ''da'' greeting in 'da ejee' as an honorific equvalent to Da Ugo or Nda Chioma in Southern Igbo.
When people in Enugu say Da Ejee /Da Emee, i see as a variant of Na-aga /Na - Emee in other dialects.

For example, if someone is cooking,i would say ''ngwa 'na' - esi ka m bia''- Keep cooking,i'm coming.

Other dialects would say, 'La emee, La Esi, La aga etc.
The Enugu udi people are the only people that use it as a form of greeting or encouragement.
I don't know if what i've written makes sense,but Daa emee is an equivalent of Na Emee and more of an appreciative greeting than an honorific.

^Ok,that's a comprehensive one.
Just wanted to drop other honorifics(Tee tee and Daa daa) from Southern Igbo,it might also be important in this discussion.
I'll come back later,lol.

Nna eh,who are these Isu people you guys keep talking about? I know Isuikwuato,Isuochi,Isu Njaba etc,how do i identify the rest?
The ewo in awho also exist in bende groups of Abia state.

Chai,have you started again? You are the only one creating problems on a good thread. If you say Okenye,it's ok. The issue here is that some delta igbo are in denial of their igbo ancestry despite the fact that they use Okhii for elderly people just like it's used in Uratta dialect.

suyu:
Many of them have white ancestry

Igbos are just igbos and they share their dna with most West Africans. Even as an igbo, i get curious when i see folks that could pass as biracial.
We are just made like that.