Nice one. I basically see them-Efik/ibibio as sisters and brothers. They are always the first and most times the only Non Igbo groups to show big support for Igbos in Nigeria. A lot of them in Akwa/Cross states marry from Igboland or have a few igbo ancestry and vice versa. I've been trying to find the true origins of Liyel Imoke,some sources say he has Igbo ancestry but someone close to him say he is not Igbo.
Anyway,some colonial historians claim that they-Akwa/Cross were only people that seperated from their Igbo kins a long time ago in other words they descended from igbos. I think it's only an overstatement by the European historians,but that show how Igbos and Akwa/Cross natives are quite similar in the eyes of non Igbos.

Interesting. I was informed that some Urhobos have Igbo ancestry.

OMG! Did Op just say that Mama is a Yoruba word?

Uhhh! I don't know why i always follow a discussion when the thread has already been concluded. Anyway,the OP is just being delusional. No igbo person claims those yoruba words to be Igbo. But come to think of it, Igbos based in the East have no knowledge of most of those words in the Op's list. Those of us that were born and bred in the East find Yoruba rather harsh and unappealing,that is the genesis of the N-gbati reference of yoruba language. By now,you should know that only igbos that travel out pick yoruba and hausa languages for survival and business reasons. There are igbo equivalents of those words in Igboland. By the way, just like my people have said,words like Egusi, Oyibo, Okro, Ugu, Akamu etc all Igbo words. Or do you want to forcefully adopt them? Lol.

craziebone:


men get told all the time to dress properly, to make all te money in the world in order to look more attractive to even undeserving women, to take it when a woman slaps him and not retaliate etc.

The reason you feel the whole world is on your shoulder is because you deliberately chose not to see things from the man's view. No wonder you are tending towards feminism.

Yes,i'm a feminist. Do you have problems with that? You even had to check out my profile,lmao. Why does the average woman need to see through a man's perspective and a man need not do same,lol. I don't really have the time to lecture you about women and their male counter parts in 3rd world Nations. Never get into my mentions again!

craziebone:


you are the one who should et an education on the sociology, anthropology and history of marriage itself! If you had an education of them all, you wouldn't spit such nonsense and ignorance about the institution, Polygamy. And when i say polyagmy, i mean Polygyny and polyandary.

I suggest you just shut up before you continue to make a fool of yourself!

Lmao! This article is not for foools like you. By the way,there are different types of feminism. Pick a book and learn about it. Smh!

Why does Ije mean movement in ancient Yoruba and also mean movement/journey in Igbo?
Ok na.

somegirl1:


interesting.
Delta Igbo and Uratta dialects appear to be quite similar.
You're correct about the "okhii" pronunciation. I had no idea that was what the person I replied had attempted to spell.
Okhii is also used to describe maturing/ aging e.g "I me na okhii"

That's why i get angry when some confused ones say they are not igbos. If Owerri and Delta igbo share similar words,it only means that at some point in history, people from the igbo hinterland moved into parts of anioma,same with Onitsha etc.

Spidermon:
We ought to be ashamed. We always excel in U-17 competitions because we take adults to compete against small children.
We face the same countries in the senior category where there is no age advantage and we all know how that ends.

That's a big lie,those boys are that young. Especially that Nwakali guy that i know his agemates even his brother,a former under 17 champion is a small boy. If they are not able to transfer their talents to the senior team, then it's a loophole and problem from the management team and not necessarily age factors.

OP,it seems like you were in my mind cos i had major reflections today. As a decent woman,it's even more difficult being jobless or unemployed. Those girls that you thought were your girl friends turn out to be fake and mean. Imagine someone you used to submit CV with, write Aptitude test and even fix 400 naira weavon together,start giving you major levels simply because she got a big job in a big company.
The kind of attitude i received eh. I remember when i couldn't pay for an asoebi,and one of them said ''haba na,it's only 10k o'' just because i was unemployed.
Thank God it's all in the past. It's a good period to know who your true friends are. Invest in your family and keep holding on to God. If i narrate the attitude i got from some of my ''former'' girl friends during that period,nairaland wouldn't be enough for that....
P.s Cast away those fair weather friends even before you get back on your feet. These days i trust strangers more.

Lmao! The main agenda of this thread is not to talk about who wants to be attached to Anambra or Imo by force or who wants to create another state. We are only trying to show you people that share same ancestry,culture and dialect beyond state boundaries. So you would stop treating Anambra, Imo, Enugu etc as homogenous and monolithic people/state.
Onye Apari!
There was nothing like Anambra and Imo few years ago,so i don't understand that question.

Forwetinnah:


Abi..but we will definitely find someone to support or hate soon ; I trust. Welcome back

Thanks dear.

oluamid:


I think strong-willed is the word you are looking for.



Anyways, I'm a big fan of the Igbo spirit. How I wish people will dispel with this tribal thingy and see the beauty in our diversity.

Nope...i'm not looking for any other word. You don't tell people how to define their situations. All the same,you are different and interested in the igbo culture which is commendable.

oluamid:



That's not true. Historically, the Igbo are a peaceful people who don't engage in wars except between neighbouring villages and usually not on a large scale (100 people max). Commercial activities is their forte (though on a large international scale, that's even not more than a 100 years old).

This is not a tribal bash or anything, just wanted to correct the 'conquer' thing you said.

You do know there are different definitions and interpretation of the word 'conquer'? It's a pity if the only thing you can think about is fighting and destructions.
Igbos are not know to be violent but they rise up and 'conquer' every situation life throws at them. If you know how igbos conquered difficulties in the 70s and still get to where they are today. You will definitely use the word ''conquerors' to define them

tobyemmanuel:
IN MY OPINION: igbos love leaving their land to develop other peoples land. Come back home and make the background great first then establish a good "branch" over there.

Lmao! So building an igbo village to remember the contributions of igbo people and their descendants in America shows that igbos love developing foreign lands?

Forwetinnah:


*just when I was about to pay her a courtesy visit, she appears*
Good to have you back girl. Tidy up that programme sharp sharp successfully o! Eish! My fighting days on this thread are not over yet

Lol,abi? But no vikram to support or hate this time,lol. Zeeworld don dry.

A hu la m na ndi anya ufu abata wo na thread a. Onye shi ndi igbo ariya nma, osuko osu nwa mkpi su gbuo ya. Mtcheeew!

Chei, Igbo mmamanu wo! Ndi Chineke choro nma, jookwa nu! Ekele le m unu o! Igbo nwere mmadu!
This is a nice innovation which should also be replicated in the caribbeans where we have lots of Igbo descendants. They can learn about igbo culture on this platform. It doesn't stop at erecting a village,there should be a mini igbo school with instructors in the village which will teach vistors about igbos.

MainHerioneHoon:


I'm fine thanks and you?
I miss your seeing your opinions on this thread and wondered how you were, I also haven't really been paying attention to zeeworld. Hope you are doing well sis

I'm doing well dearie,thanks a lot.

Chiwude:
Nice contribution Mandax. I suppose you meant Njaba state.

Yes,you are right and Orumba north and south will join up with Okigwe, Umunneochi, Oji river and isuikwuato in another proposed state-Etiti state.
Now,i see the thread is no longer favourable to some people,if it was should owerri/umuahia be the igbo izugbe,dem for don destroy am since.

ezeagu:
someone from Umuahia / north Abia may have better understanding of the Onitsha Igbo much more than they would an Ikwere or what is spoken in Ugwuta, and not because of the popularity of Onitsha

I'm not sure about this. Ugwuta should be related to Onitsha and Anioma? Northern Abia dialects are diverse, i don't see them closely related to onitsha dialect apart from few similar words. You can buttress your point.

ezeagu:


Most people understood the thread, look at the first comments, I don't actually know who the people are that were throwing insults or even explicitly said Onitsha Igbo is better or whatever, but I guess better time would have been spent questioning them instead of the motive of the thread which most people responded to in a way that shows they understand that threads are often opened with rhetorical questions to begin a conversation, which it did.

Most people did not understand the thread. They just made bizzare conclusions immediately they saw the title which obviously was in their favour. Don't pretend you were not part of the 'antagonistic team' though.:/
Anyway,discussions has been made and i believe most of us share same opinions. We should move on and concentrate on your second question/suggestion which is in line with what scholti is trying to do. That will be a more reasonable thing to do.

I never had you in mind when i wrote the latest comment as i've not seen much input from you. I was referring to those who felt they had the best dialect which should automatically be an izugbe without considering the opinions of the other groups.
I believe the general view(to an extent) is that a standard izugbe should gradually rise from any of the two central dialects without undue external influence or suggestions. Even at that, some people still maintain a fixed position(with scornful expressions thrown in) about which dialect must function as izugbe,even when i don't see that happening.


The OP should re-evaluate what a rhetoric question is. You ask questions and give way for responses which will ultimately determine the overall conclusion or answers to the question. You don't ask questions,get the responses and opinion from different groups, antagonize the opposing views, maintain a passionate stand and still expect people to see whatever intentions you had in mind.

mandax:


Many of the communities in Nnewi local government councils in Anambra state, including Orsu-Umuoghu, have the same ancestry with the many Orsu communities in Orlu area of Imo state. Even their Igbo dialects are the same.

In Ihialla local government council in Anambra state, the Uli and Amorka areas have same ancestry and Igbo dialects with the Mgbidi people in Imo state.

The two areas from Anambra and Imo states joined together with the rest in Orlu senatorial district in the demand for a sixth state to be created in the south east zone.

Are you from Orsu, Orlu area? I said i wasn't gonna write anything yet. That's what one gets when he cleaves to an artificial demacation.

ezeagu:


If you'd actually set your emotions and personal gripes aside for a moment, you'd see that the thread is actually a criticism of the use of Onitsha Igbo over Igbo Izugbe. You may also find it useful to be more perceptive to rhetorical questions, sarcasm, and when someone is generally 'pulling your leg', such perception would avoid you playing to the tune of the jester and general onye uru (uru not ulu, hint?) called ezeagu.

Human beings reserve the right to use personal discretions and still remain objective in the analysis and interpretation of facts. This thread never started as a criticism on the preference of onitsha dialect in place of others. It practically lacked precise knowledge and jumped into suggestions and conclusions,even the first respondents seem to be in support of the projections of the so called rhetoric question.
There is nothing like putting feelings aside here not with the false impressions, ego, assumptions and insults infused in this thread right from the beginning.

MainHerioneHoon:
I miss Blossom023

Hope your exams are going well

I miss Ihuomadinihu

Do you still watch zee world soaps my sis?

Hey! I miss everyone on this thread. How are you dearie? Thanks for asking after me. Yes,you guessed right. I no longer watch zeeworld and it sucks. I'm trying to tidy up a programme and shall be back nextweek hopefully. Forwetinnah, my badgirl and friend, hw u dey?
I miss zeeworld.

I see Scholti moving in a better direction. I've seen some of your contributions/word formations and it's highly commendable.

Back to the subject of the thread,it's a pity if you(@Chin) see it as a mere thought process as against a brash suggestion of elevating a sectional dialect on a group of diverse igbo speakers. The introductory parts of the thread clearly alluded that a dialect is used and spoken by all Igbo people from Agbor and Aro without paying attention to the unique speech forms in the Southern parts of Igboland.
I'm even more surprised you don't notice the veiled insults in previous pages where onitsha dialect is labelled sexy and classy in order words,all other Igbo dialects especially those from southern igbo are uncultured, crude and tacky. Or is it the egocentric attitude of speakers of the onitsha dialect around speakers of non onitsha dialect that you have failed to notice in these conversations?
I don't see any thought process in this thread. A sane thread would have asked if we can adopt one or two standard igbo izugbe(s) by picking the most popular dialects used in written and public interactions. A better option would have been if we can incoporate certain or all igbo dialects into the current igbo izugbe. If he had started off on this note,we would have moved beyond this level by now.

There is no thought process in this thread other than cheruv who started asking for items in different igbo dialects.

Chiwude:
Lol! This is the type of suggestion he should be making. We should focus on things that unites us, rather than things that causes disagreements.

Basically why igbos are the laughing stock on nairaland. If you want to have a good time, just follow an igbo thread. I used to be very very,infact extremely pro igbo(north and south up to the moon) till i started noticing very upsetting and wrong suppositions.

Chiwude:
Interesting idea from a great mind. We can have a compendium of vocabularies from several dialects. Well, am not a linguist so this one is off my lane. Ezeagu what says you.

That's about the only intelligent suggestion he has made so far.

Radoillo:


There is an Izugbe word for it. I vaguely remember a page from my Junior Secondary Igbo grammar text. I'm not now sure what the exact word was, but it's between ji oko and ojoko.

Well,i'm not aware of that because i don't see people use a specific word for plantain.

Yimu.