DaPuncline:

I've read Zik's Biography several times. I've done my home work well before engaging you in an argument. I've told you several times I'am not diminishing zik's influence but we just have to put the record straight.

I simply told you earlier zik was also influential but we have some african leaders that are more influential, well rooted in Pan-African movement and were known to be a relevant forces by the whites.
Here is the link to Pan-Africanism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Africanism.

I've read thoroughly several times and Zik's name was not mention.

Here is an Excerpt from the link:


Pan-African advocates include
leaders such as Haile Selassie, Julius
Kambarage Nyerere, Ahmed Sekou Toure,
Kwame Nkrumah and Muammar Gaddafi,
grassroots organizers such as Marcus
Garvey and Malcolm X, academics such as
W. E. B. Du Bois, and others in the diaspora.

Beside, Kwame Nkrumah brought the idea of Organization of African Unity (now the
African Union) was established in 1963 to
safeguard the sovereignty and territorial
integrity of its Member States and to
promote global relations within the
framework of the United Nations.

So you criteria for putting Zik at the fore front of Pan-Africanist is what I don't understand.

It's still pathetic that you keep looking for loopholes to confine his legacy to a particular level. Would you been fighting to do so if he was from your ethnic group?
A man has been credited by Colonialist,his Nation, his Contemporaries and African yet he sink so low to state he was not that good. Is this how bad Tribalism has overtaken Nigeria?
You wouldn't be struggling to undermine Azikiwe's legacies which resonate across Africa.
Azikiwe is the only Nigerian recognized by the international community as an African Nationalist and if you care to know,he was one of the principal converners of Pan African Conference in London, 1945 which drew black people from across the world. Today,people cannot talk about Nationalism,Anti colonial struggle and Pan African ideologies without a mention of Azikiwe.
Everything must not end up on Wikipedia. There are books and resources out there they must be utilized.
His journalism poweress took him to Ghana where he addressed Ghanaians to stand against colonialism. It was in Ghana that Nkrumah got inspired by Azikiwe's Pan African philosophies.
Through Azikiwe's guidiance, Nkrumah travelled to America for studies.
Azikiwe was not just a Pan African leader,his political philosophies inspired others to fight for independence. His work as a journalist equally sent him to prison and his Newspaper was suspended because the White men was afraid of this Igbo man that came to push them out of power. Yes, Azikiwe was at the front of Pan African Nationalism along with his contemporaries of that period.
I wouldn't return to this argument again seeing that you are only fighting because Azikiwe was an Igbo man.

shigothang:



That's the truth .The west were denied some chances due their their level of exposure before th indepndence .

The british planned a designed a country tO favor and rule by the north ,while the east supports them.

The first VC of Ibadan coming from the east is the plan to give the east a stake ( the cath up pan to meet up with the west).

There wre plans to make other regions to catch up woith western nigeria ,and that's why federal character was introduced ,so otheer tribs an meet and we ve a balanced country .

You can read the confession of Harold smith on lies about population!how the west were denied numbers.

Even the pominent Ijaw activist Joseph Evah, was said ther wre plans in nigeria to make other troibes cath up the with west ,which is paying off.

I think the advantage the Ibos ve more than other tribes,its bcuz they have a large population compare to opther tribes,so its visible to notice they are catching up and are ready to dominate but I don't think th west are dozing .

You forgot that Ajayi Crowder played a vital role in the lives of all ibo man, and most of their elites schooled here and leanrt alot from us ,they even dress like us,evolving through our cultural practices and developing a western orientation.

Wheen u talk of industrialist,the west lead and others follow(the okin biscuit,alabukun's and others) in this area and still churning out more ,though the ibo are really trying in the area .
There was a programme on tv years back ,on NTA ,hosted by a lady from eastern part or the S south (Hallmark of Labour) . Its a show to celebrate those who contributed to nigeria's development from different sectors. Its was a very good and well commended ,the programme attest to the fat on how thw west dominated and plaeyd a vital role in all sectors of Nigeria's existence but from the public and private setors of the entity .


That's fact is the west leads ,while others follows but amongst the followers,one is angry ,focus and playing a smart game to lead. To me ,I see this a normal thing.Its a welcome motive to me,it will wake us up ,if we can only havea resource control and self rule.

Imagine a east with a mordern rgional capital that ink the west and south to the north via a 21st century railway .


God bless us all.

You mentioned Federal character. It may interest you to know that Tafawa Balewa established the Quota system and the Federal Character Priciple was introduced by Gowon because he believed that Igbos occupied major departments. In 1979, Federal character was introduced into the constitution to accomodate minority ethnic groups and balance the North and South to eliminate domination of one region of the country.
Where were Igbos in all of this? The Government has always belonged to non Igbos,so how did igbos make plans to distabilize you? Or how did the White man elevate Igbos above Yoruba and Hausa. My friend,everything was done on merit.
Yes, Ajayi was instrumental but before him there was Olaudah Equiano, the first learned Nigerian/igbo whose book inspired slaves and ex slaves.

Of all the Nigerian and even African groups, Igbos were said to have absolved excess Western civilization/orientation. You can see for yourself how some Igbos have abandon their language and culture for foreign cultures. So how are they copying you?
It is normal phenomenon for people that grew away from their homeland to adapt to the cultures of their host groups. So that your point is void.

shigothang:



That's the truth .The west were denied some chances due their their level of exposure before th indepndence .

The british planned a designed a country tO favor and rule by the north ,while the east supports them.

The first VC of Ibadan coming from the east is the plan to give the east a stake ( the cath up pan to meet up with the west).

There wre plans to make other regions to catch up woith western nigeria ,and that's why federal character was introduced ,so otheer tribs an meet and we ve a balanced country .

You can read the confession of Harold smith on lies about population!how the west were denied numbers.

Even the pominent Ijaw activist Joseph Evah, was said ther wre plans in nigeria to make other troibes cath up the with west ,which is paying off.

I think the advantage the Ibos ve more than other tribes,its bcuz they have a large population compare to opther tribes,so its visible to notice they are catching up and are ready to dominate but I don't think th west are dozing .

You forgot that Ajayi Crowder played a vital role in the lives of all ibo man, and most of their elites schooled here and leanrt alot from us ,they even dress like us,evolving through our cultural practices and developing a western orientation.

Wheen u talk of industrialist,the west lead and others follow(the okin biscuit,alabukun's and others) in this area and still churning out more ,though the ibo are really trying in the area .
There was a programme on tv years back ,on NTA ,hosted by a lady from eastern part or the S south (Hallmark of Labour) . Its a show to celebrate those who contributed to nigeria's development from different sectors. Its was a very good and well commended ,the programme attest to the fat on how thw west dominated and plaeyd a vital role in all sectors of Nigeria's existence but from the public and private setors of the entity .


That's fact is the west leads ,while others follows but amongst the followers,one is angry ,focus and playing a smart game to lead. To me ,I see this a normal thing.Its a welcome motive to me,it will wake us up ,if we can only havea resource control and self rule.

Imagine a east with a mordern rgional capital that ink the west and south to the north via a 21st century railway .


God bless us all.

What are you even writing?
Igbos supported Britian and the North?
If you are conversant with Nigerian history you will know that Britian resented Igbos and Igbos never like British people. Britian have never hidden their resentment for Igbos. Every description of Igbos start with Stubborn and individualistic race.
Why do you think Britian suceeded in the West and North but failed in the East?
Yorubas have always been allies of the Hausa/Fulani till tomorrow.
Even sir Ahmadu Bello resented Igbos because he believed that Igbos were dominating every sector of the economy before independence.
Western civilization came quite late to Igbos but when it came,they grabbed it with both hands and made the best of it. So you see,igbos have always been at the forefront before independence.

shigothang:


They move to every part of nigeria bcuz of survival not by choice,sine home wasn't viable for business ,you out to look for where there is purchasing power.

Its like when u see an european heading towards east afria,he's probably going for tourisim but when u see one in nigeria ,he's here strictly for bizz .

Sorry, we are talking about the tribalistic before independence. Why not pick up and read a book on the history of Pre independence Nigeria,it will change your perception about Nigeria.
Study it without ethnic sensibilities and point out where igbos were tribalistic from the days of yore. I'm waiting.
On the other hand, Igbos have been targets of violence and ethno-religious hostilites before independence.

Damjoy:


Did you know the level of rot Zik and his co-easterners brought into the system?
Do you know that the most corrupt Nigerians both past and present were EASTERNERS?

I challenge you to read the British Secret Files on the first bloody coup in Nigeria...

Yes, because Babangida, Abacha, Festus Okotie Eboh, Jibrin, Oladimeji Bankole, T Y Danjuma, Sule Lamido, Ibori, Alamieyesigha and Buratai are all Igbos.
By now,the average Nigerian knows the most corrupt group of people in Nigeria. Definitely not the people that started with 20 pounds.

Damjoy:



Are those universities you mentioned still functional?

Are they actually worth calling a UNIVERSITY?

Yes both Esut and Madonna are functional universities. Don't be so blinded by hate and tribalism in such a way that you spew rubbish and make a mess of yourself.

DaPuncline:

No one is diminishing Zik's influence but comparing him with the likes of patrice lumumba that belgium and U.S.A became so scared of him that they had to plot his assassination, even the great Malcom X declared Patrice Lumumba "the greatest
black man who ever walked the African
continent" or you wanna compare zik with Nkrumah that told the likes of world bank, IMF to go to hell or Kenneth Kaunda that fought with his last blood to free zambia etc. Bros Azikwe's influence can never be compared with those seasoned men.

Here is a link to 1945 Pan-African congress held in manchester that was graced by powerful african leaders and Zik was missing.

www.aaprp-intl.org/taxonomy/term/81

Now that you know that Azikiwe was one of foremost Pan African Nationalist,you need to explain what you mean by seasoned?
Or do you just use words that you can't define?
What could be more seasoned than a man that hustled to study in America when most of his African/Nigeria contemporaries had not set foot in America?
What could be more seasoned than a man that has Howard University, Lincoln University and Pennsylvania University as his Alma Mater?
What could be more seasoned than a man that earned his degree,masters and Phd in first class American Universities?
What could be more seasoned than a man that wrote articles for top Afro American newspapers and taught in their Universities?
What could be more seasoned than a man that published Newspapers that mentored folks and inspired the fight for independence in most parts of Africa?
His newspapers which he strategically established in different parts of Nigeria became the pricipal tool of stimulating Nigerian Nationalism and subsequently he was regarded as a Messanic symbol of Nigerian Nationhood and African Nationalism.
Learn to choose your words carefully,just because Azikiwe was not your Kinsmen doesn't mean you have the right to belittle his Legacies which are respected across Africa.

DaPuncline:

No one is diminishing Zik's influence but comparing him with the likes of patrice lumumba that belgium and U.S.A became so scared of him that they had to plot his assassination, even the great Malcom X declared Patrice Lumumba "the greatest
black man who ever walked the African
continent" or you wanna compare zik with Nkrumah that told the likes of world bank, IMF to go to hell or Kenneth Kaunda that fought with his last blood to free zambia etc. Bros Azikwe's influence can never be compared with those seasoned men.

Here is a link to 1945 Pan-African congress held in manchester that was graced by powerful african leaders and Zik was missing.

www.aaprp-intl.org/taxonomy/term/81

Oh Chim. Why not read Azikiwe's biography before writing these things? By 1945, Azikiwe had just joined his first party and was still printing his Newspaper to fight colonialism and Western imperialism which influenced Political consciousness amongst Nigerians and Africans.
Nigerian's struggle for independence was not as Radical and violent as other nations so there was no reason to carry arms against White men. The pen is mightier than the sword.
Azikiwe's newspapers galvanised people into agitating for independence. Azikiwe on his own was a mentor to Nkurmah because Zik's beliefs inspired him and increased his belief in African Nationalism.

If we are talking of Africans at the forefront of the fight against European imperialism and agitations for independence then Nnamdi Azikiwe was way in the front. What's the point of diminishing a person's legacy because he doesn't come from your ethnic group?
It's quite pathetic.

ofwest47:
You these Igbos or as Zik renamed them * I Before Others * if you don't the Yoruba nation had always been far ahead of I Before Others from inception till date:
1_ which region started the free primary education in Nigeria as far back as 1955,_the Western Region although Zik tried it in 1957 but could not continue by 1959.
2_ which region had the first television station in Africa even when some other European countries had never dreamt of having one __ the Western region under the able leadership of Baba Awo.
3_ which region had the first international stadium in the entire Africa the answer is, The Western Region if any IBO man could recollect the two world boxing championship games one by Hogan king Bassey and the other by Dick Tiger in 1963 Zik was in Ibadan to watch the games
Remember, the Liberty stadium 1st in Africa also hosted the under 17 world championship game in 1979 all these were happening in the West under Papa Awolowo.
4__ The first tallest building in Africa the 25 floors cocoa house is in Ibadan in the Yoruba national headquarters.
5__ Zik it was said initiated the building of Nssuka University while Awo did the same thing at Ife now Obafemi Awolowo University, in comparison where did they say Awolowo built private hostels within the campus for the purpose of exploiting the students non at all, unlike Zik who built quite a number of hostels within the university campus for profit gains; the private hostels are still there till date.
If not for greedy IBO domination the restructuring we are now crying for today would have become a thing of the past if Zik and their Hausa/IBO domination had allowed the creation of the then Calabar_Ogoja_river state now Niger_ Delta as they allowed the creation of the Mid_West from the then Western region but disallowed the creation of the Benue_Plateau from the then Northern region as recommended by Awolowo ( see Awo's Thought to Nigeria constitution 1945 ) but for greediness and dominations at all costs of Hausa/ IBO coalition we would not have found our selves in the mess we are into today
In the entire country today which region allows the influx of other tribes besides the Yoruba nation.

^THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH NIGERIA.
We are not here to make comparisons between Eastern and Western Nigeria because everything you've listed all vestiges of the Colonialist which they in turn use in mocking Africans. We are here to talk about Azikiwe,a detribalized Nigerian and first symbol of Pan African Nationalism in Nigeria who helped to bring higher institution close to his people.
I think this topic has been hijacked by folks that find it difficult to celebrate people that don't come from their tribes thereby making a joke of people's achievements and legacies.
Pls we are not here to compare who the White men gave a school first. If you may like to know,UNN is the first indigenious Nigerian University and after the war, people from the West and North applied to gain admission into it because they wanted to study under those lecturers that manufacture bombs and weapons.
This comparison is getting boring,there is no basis for it.

DaPuncline:

Let's start from the three igbo academicians appointed by Zik as VC in SW university because you said it was by merit and no yoruba man was qualified. So were they appointed by the white men ? Who also appointed Jaja Wachukwu Foreign affiars minister ?, Aja Nwachukwu education minister ? I guess the whitemen appointed them too ? Who made Aguiyi Ironsi chief of Army staff ? White man ? The list is endless bro.

Irrespective of who appointed them. It was all based on Merit and who had the best qualifications in that time. Don't equate the Nigeria of today with that period. People were eager to serve their nation and put ego and tribalism aside. Things were largely done on merit. The reason you wouldn't find such situations in the East of those days was largely because your folks were basically absent.

DaPuncline:

Bros which consolation are you talking about ? I keep giving you fact to affirm how Zik and Balewa populated the civil service, ministries with their alliance and you are here saying consolation. Balewa had to danced top Zik's tune coz hausas were less educated then and their political partner which are the igbos are better off academically so they needed them to run the affairs. Yorubas were doing well academically and churning out seasoned academicians but majority of them are Awoist which made never never to be considered by Zik and Balewa. The question I'm still asking you is are you saying there were no qualified yoruba academicians in the west before Zik-Balewa decided to choose igbo academicians as SW university VCs ? I guess that was the bedrock of our argument.

So you said no success was associated to Zik and your folks has been euologizing Zik for given them UNN and Niger Bridge inclusive.

So bros becos Zik fans in nigeria added the word "Africa" to his name so that made him greater than the lumubas, kenyattas, nkrumahs etc.

O di egwu. What is Zik's fans in Nigeria? Before Zik ventured into politics,he was a writer/journalist and his writeups succeded in motivating Africans to cry for independence and that ruffled the ego of the stubborn and greedy Colonialists. His Newspapers became a reference point for Africans seeking for liberation.
He was not just a Nigerian politician,he was a Pan African Nationalist whose legacy was felt throughout Black Africa.

I was here to admire the fine gentleman and symbol of African Nationalism only to see silly comments of which Region got a White Man's school first and how Achebe didn't school in Igboland. That is Slave Mentality!
Azikiwe and other Founding Fathers set up Nigeria to be free from Western Grip only for this Nairaland generation to push it into an irredeemable tribalistic country.
Anyway, can we just celebrate Zik's legacies/achievements or keep behaving like a typical black person? Donald Trump was probably right!

DaPuncline:

Being a tribalist is different from traveling round the globe for a better life or to make more money. You can leave your region to another place and still be a tribalist.

Checkout what Merriam-Webster Dictionary says about tribalism:

"loyalty to a tribe or other social group
especially when combined with strong
negative feelings for people outside the
group".

So you can be outside your region and still have a negative feelings about your host. A case study is calling Lagos a no man's land or the head of igbo community in a yoruba city entering an oba's palace with a crown on his head.

You can't say an igbo man would pack his load and head to Kafancha to learn hausa Language. Hell No. He's simply going there for a better life.


The case of fulani man appointed a mayor in enugu, should I start counting the number of appointment that igbos has benefited from the yorubas alone ?

Wanna give you an Assignment bro: Since 1999, kindly tell me one or two person(s) that are not igbos but have given a political appointment in the east. Thanks.

Unfortunately,we are not discussing a post Civil war Nigeria where every tribe are equal participants in this resentment game ocassioned by events of pre 1967.
This is about the days of Nnamdi Azikiwe and his contempories.
What informed your presumptuous post that claim that Igbos have been tribalistic from the days of yore? That is the point!
Focus on the issue at hand.

And if you are talking about Lagos,well forget it. Because it is melting pot of Nigerians ,was once a Capital and everyone derseves to have a stake there.

YourNemesis:


lol, but as at independence, the West still had far more PRIMARY and SECONDARY schools than your Eastern region and the North.
No matter how you want to go about it, no evidence supports the claims by your brother up there.

Having many schools doesn't corelate with the number of literate people. That is absolutely a null logic.
There are many Religious organizations in Nigeria,yet how many Nigerians are righteous?
The Education igbos couldn't get in the East,they sought for it outside the East and Beyond. There was Hope Waddell training institute Calabar in 1895.
If Igbos were in Lagos,Niger state and other parts of West Africa before 1904 working for the Colonialist that shows you that they were very literate.
Besides, this is supported by colonial accounts that state that Igbos quickly embraced Western Civilization which helped them secure appointments around Nigeria.

DaPuncline:

Zik as the Governor-general then collude with Balewa the Prime minister to appoint igbo indigenes as the 1st VCs of those western universities. It simply means zik political alliance with balewa brought about the emergence of igbo VC in the west. Get your fact correctly! Igbo has been practicing tribalism since time memorial.

If Igbos have been tribalistic,you wouldn't have found them all over Nigeria changing and contributing to the socio-economy of their host communities. You wouldn't find them embracing other cultures and learning other languages to their own detriment.
If Igbos were Tribalistic, Azikiwe wouldn't have put hands together with the Ijebu Yorubas to fight a political party.
If Igbos are Tribalistic,why was a Fulani man appointed the first Mayor of Enugu?
Till Jesus comes, there are no group of people who are as multilingual/cultural as igbos and found in all parts of Nigeria yet they become the first target of illiterate blood suckers.
I understand that Nairaland is full of Ignorant,childish tribalists.

YourNemesis:


Hhahaha... Your brothers said on page 0 that before independence, Igboland had no university, while the western region already did. Yet according to you, Igbos had the highest literacy before independence.... why such bullshit?

Lliteracy has nothing to do with a University. Literacy is the ability to read and write. A secondary school graduate is literate,and a Waec certificate can fetch you a good job in the Colonial administration in those days.
Igbos had no University before 1960 but there were higher colleges like Nigerian College of Arts,Science and Technology Enugu.
But when we had our University,it was the First Indigenious University in Nigeria and we started offering Degrees before your Ibadan.

Permit me to call this great Father of mine 'Bae'.
I was studying a whole lot about him yesterday and was marveled by all he accomplished. He was born in Niger state and was fluent in Hausa like most igbos brought up in the North. His Father felt he would lose his identity and consequently sent him back to the East. He learnt Igbo language and relocated to Lagos where he picked up Yoruba language before he moved to Calabar.
Show me a firm believer in the One Nigerian project and Pan African Nationalism and i will point at the Zik of Africa.
His sojourn in different parts of Nigeria made him believe in One Nigeria just like a lot Igbos who have found themselves outside igboland embrace the colours of their host communities.

He was not just a leader,he was accomplished in the field of Journalism, Sports, Academics and Politics.

Abeg someone should answer me.
I am done with my applications but each time i click the submit button it takes me back to a blank application page.
What does this mean? Any idea on what i should do?

Is printing compulsory?

ejdan:
pls I would suggest u apply for only one of those position u think best suit u out of the three positions in dat same department. I don't think it wise to apply e.g account officer1, account officer 11, and senior account officer all in dat department...though qualified for all but d recruiter might think u dont know what u want. he expects u to know what u want, have the confidence that in what u want and not wanting everything at the same time dooesnt sound well. just my own observation and thought

Thanks. I was only confused because i'm qualified for almost all the positions in a single department.

Site currently unavailable. Na wa for this Nation o!!

OluKayy:

You''re welcome

Sorry to disturb again,just a little confused. I can see three different positions that i'm qualifed for in the same department,can i apply for the trio?

OluKayy:


Yeah, you are allowed to apply in different departments provided you meet the requirements. What automatically voids your application is if you do more than once for same position.

Thanks.

OluKayy:
The site was stable at the early hours of today. Successfully applied for 3 positions. Na prayer and fasting remain.

Three positions in three different departments? Pls explain.

I've seen people talking about multiple applications. How does that work? Does it mean i can apply for one specific position in one ministry then go over to apply for another in another ministry?
Please someone should get back to me asap,thank you.

macof:
you didn't get the point after all.

to put it simply...

oba in igbo language..or in bini language(that means shiny or whatever ) is unrelated to the 'oba' in yoruba language...
the use of the 'oba' to refer to bini kings is due to the yoruba origin of the king himself

I got your point already....making an emphasis.

macof:


Yes it is now a valid Benin Word as it is used interchangeably with the original bini word of "Ogie" but for Bini, the reality is that "Oba" is a loan word... like Wakati (a yoruba loan word from arabic is still a yoruba word).. the history of the two groups can tell that the use of the word to refer to the Bini king came after yoruba presence in person of the king himself

so the pronunciation can mean anything in bini language or even Igbo but would be a different word..two different words pronounced similarly .like the op mentioned something like "red or shining"

It is equally a valid Igbo word irrespective of what it means in Yoruba or Benin,claming exclusivity is out of the equation.
I already gave an example with the word 'Ife'.
The origin of the benin 'oba' word/title stays with benin likewise oba in Igbo.

dapsonlou:
I would have given you props for a Nice right up until u claim Oba is not a Yoruba Word. Oba in Yoruba means the 1st to Arrive or the 1st person you meet there. My Grandfather was Oba Adesoji Aderemi Late Ooni Of Ife before Oba Sijuade. I know our history more than you. Odudua conquered Bini and Left his Son Oromiyan In charge and return to His throne in Ile-ife , Oromiyan Return to take over Oyos Throne and Left his throne in benin for his Son Owomika . The children of Oromiyan are the only Families allowed to be Kings in Ife. The Akui, The lafigido, The Ogboru and The osinkola all my spelling of the names are Wrong sha lol. Oba of bini is our cousin and he most surely Visit his fore father's Throne in Ile-Ife. Bini is bearly 10kilometers by 10kilometers and you want to be Claim over Yoruba Land that's thousands of Miles wide. Omo is also a Yoruba Word means child. Your people are claim our Words as yours the same Way Igbos and Ghanaians are Claiming Asewo is their Word. Not all yorubas are what you think they are, Just the ones you know, broaden your horizons.


Fyi Oduduas real name is Ishmael Oduari not a Yoruba or Benin name.

There is no way igbos claim Ashewo as an Igbo word. We have legitimate words for prostitutes and they are Akwunakwuna,Iko amongst others.
Ashewo is just a word that has gone into mainstream Nigerian vocabulary,it's not Igbo.

macof:



point noted but "Oba" is not just a common word but a title even if it wasn't it still doesn't take away the yoruba uniqueness in it. of course "Oba" might have meanings in different languages doesn't say it is the same word or that they are even related words

Edo in Japanese isn't the same word or in any way related to Edo in bini language

just because words sound alike doesn't mean they are cognates

I see what you mean and i mean the same thing. It's a battle between yoruba and benin on the true origin of the title 'Oba',nevertheless both groups can't claim the word beyond their territory. It is a word with different meanings outside that region.

Oh Boy! These groups and their complex repertoire of history. At the end of the day,they end up confusing themselves and other nairalands. I've tried to read up on Oduduwa and Ife and there are conflicting tales surronding it. Phew!
It feels good to be Igbo and mostly simple and republican in nature. No igbo has the time for this uncordinated,extensive recollection of history, moreso,when it involves intense arguments over the real origin of a certain larger than life personality.
Anyway,i wanted to correct an impression. The word 'Oba' might represent a Ruler in Benin and Yoruba language that doesn't mean both groups can claim to be originators of the word.
In Igbo language, 'Oba' stands for a number of things. Don't be surprised to find regular women bearing oba back in the days.
Just like no group can exclusively claim the word 'Ife'.
Ife mean something entirely different in Igbolanguage.
Let Oba represent your ruler and other things in Igbo language. No one has the right to make exclusive claims to it.

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