Xavier5: When you deny the obvious, you have to fill in the blank to maintain balance of the system... and what better way to do this than conspiracies 😂😂😂😂😂
Honestly, both the Left and Right are guilty of conspiracies, but the Right are Ph.D holders. The Left are still dealing with Bachelor's Degree 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
#Xavier
What conspiracy theory can you name that an elected leader of the Democratic party has espoused?
raumdeuter: I am not pro choice or pro abortion because you said so?
Have you stopped to think about the insane things you say consistently
You are not pro choice because the views you have expressed in this thread about abortion are not pro choice views. You aren't well read, so you clearly don't understand the distinction between being pro choice and your view.
wirinet: So its no longer the electoral body and the courts that will determine the legality elections in the US but partisan party officials. Interesting..... So what happens if the elections are not certified because the Attorney General, the secretary of state and legislature think there is fraud? Hand over the electoral votes to the other candidate?
They probably just would not do anything as Trump would have lost the election already. That's their neat trick. If enough Republican states do the same and no candidate reaches 270 electoral votes, then it goes to the House of Representatives to decide. Which means Republicans would pick the next President as they control more States by vote.
What happens if no presidential candidate gets 270 electoral votes?
If no candidate receives a majority of electoral votes, the Presidential election leaves the Electoral College process and moves to Congress. The House of Representatives elects the President from the three (3) Presidential candidates who received the most electoral votes. Each State delegation has one vote and it is up to the individual States to determine how to vote. (Since the District of Columbia is not a State, it has no State delegation in the House and cannot vote). A candidate must receive at least 26 votes (a majority of the States) to be elected. The Senate elects the Vice President from the two (2) Vice Presidential candidates with the most electoral votes. Each Senator casts one vote for Vice President. (Since the District of Columbia is not a State, it has no Senators so does not participate in the vote). A candidate must receive at least 51 votes (a majority of Senators) to be elected. If the House of Representatives fails to elect a President by Inauguration Day, the Vice-President Elect serves as acting President until the deadlock is resolved in the House. https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/faq#no270
Republicans are at it again. Republicans in W. Virginia want to pass a resolution that says:
"... the State of West Virginia will not recognize an election of a candidate for President during the 2024 election cycle if the Attorney General of West Virginia or the Secretary of State of West Virginia, in consultation with the West Virginia Legislature, determine that election fraud in any state was a major reason that resulted in a candidate for President obtaining a majority in the Electoral College"
I don't think this will pass as it they would be scared to pass it. As, if they give themselves this tool, they would have to not certify the election, if Trump in any way says it was stolen or reap the wrath of MAGA's in their deep Republican state. No winning there.
raumdeuter: I am conservative and I am pro-abortion.
1.) You are not pro-choice (pro abortion). 2.) Maybe take a second and think through how what you wrote would impact what he wrote in any way. Use your big boy thoughts.
bemeruca: It shows I have purpose in life, your purpose is Nairaland. When is your 50th bday?
How is your friends daughter doing in her university? When will you sleep on the couch again to save a few change?
benalvino3: It means day 1 in the united states. I enjoyed the couch. You want to see my car?
Also, tell us where you think I am? Let me make it easy for you. 1: Nigeria 2: Biafra (IPOB) 3: the United states.
So, there's nothing wrong with staying on anyone's couch if you have to. When I'm Lagos, I don't have to. But, what I find hilarious is the people that accuse others of the things they are insecure about.
In this post here you are 1.) Saying you slept on someone's couch because I asked why you would book a crappy motel your first night in the US, that your company sponsored. 2.) Also lying that the picture of the crappy motel you claimed you stayed in was in the US, when in the picture we can see a British Columbia Bus Stop meaning the pic was of a motel in Canada.
Insecurity, Inconsistency and Lying seems to be a mainstay of a Trumper.
Immigrants and their bad genes. Lol. Reason 1,000,0026 Trump is a Racist Piece of Sh*t
How about allowing people to come to an open border, 13,000 of which were murderers, many of them murdered far more than one person, and they’re now happily living in the United States. You know, now a murderer — I believe this — it’s in their genes. And we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now. They left, they had 425,000 people come into our country that shouldn’t be here that are criminals. And, you know, one of the worst has 325,000 young children are missing. Can you imagine if that was Biden? No, no, can you imagine if that was Trump?
ironheart: You floated the naira and its not working. Wouldn't you unfloat it?
Different problems. The government was basically subsidizing the rate. And people were basically stealing that money by committing fraud with arbitrage. They had to bring the two rates inline. It may cause short term pain, but will provide for the long term health of Nigeria.
bemeruca: Just kill yourself, you are suffering. I only got back from Scotland yesterday. I was there for my daughters bday and a good time to watch my son play in his soccer team.
What does Scotland have to do with pretending you live in the US or posting pictures of Canada and pretending it was the US? It's a stupid person's way of deflecting the fact that you are lying about living in the US and posting misinformation and foreign propaganda. Look over there.
bemeruca: Dude, shut up; I live in the US, and if you can't handle that, kill yourself so you don't have to suffer from that. You cannot refute what I said
If the money cannot be use for other purpose why are they broke? Which fund did they receive for illegals, was it money given to them for that purpose? Ewu
Rumor: FEMA only provides loans to disaster survivors. Fact: This is false. In most cases, FEMA grants do NOT have to be paid back.
There are some less common situations in which you may have to pay FEMA back if you receive duplicate benefits from insurance or a grant from another source. For example, if you have insurance that covers your temporary housing costs, but you ask FEMA to advance you some money to help you pay for those costs while your insurance is delayed, you will need to pay that money back to FEMA after you receive your insurance settlement.
If you are a homeowner or small business owner, low-interest disaster loans are also available from the U.S. Small Business Administration (SBA) in a declared major disaster area. These loans may help with home repair or replacement, personal property, vehicles, mitigation, business losses, and working capital for small business and most private nonprofits. Learn more about SBA disaster loans.
Rumor: FEMA does not have enough money to provide disaster assistance for Helene. Fact: FEMA has enough money right now for immediate response and recovery needs. If you were affected by Helene, do not hesitate to apply for disaster assistance as there is a variety of help available for different needs. October 3, 2024
Rumor: Funding for FEMA disaster response was diverted to support international efforts or border related issues. Fact: This is false. No money is being diverted from disaster response needs. FEMA’s disaster response efforts and individual assistance is funded through the Disaster Relief Fund, which is a dedicated fund for disaster efforts. Disaster Relief Fund money has not been diverted to other, non-disaster related efforts. October 3, 2024
Rumor: FEMA will only provide $750 to disaster survivors to support their recovery. Fact: This is false.
This is a type of assistance that you may be approved for soon after you apply, called Serious Needs Assistance. It is an upfront, flexible payment to help cover essential items like food, water, baby formula, breastfeeding supplies, medication and other emergency supplies. There are other forms of assistance that you may qualify for to receive and Serious Needs Assistance is an initial payment you may receive while FEMA assesses your eligibility for additional funds. As your application continues to be reviewed, you may still receive additional forms of assistance for other needs such as support for temporary housing, personal property and home repair costs. If you have questions about your disaster assistance application and what you qualify for, contact us at 1-800-621-3362 to speak with a FEMA representative in your language.
bemeruca: Dude, shut up; I live in the US, and if you can't handle that, kill yourself so you don't have to suffer from that. You cannot refute what I said
If the money cannot be use for other purpose why are they broke? Which fund did they receive for illegals, was it money given to them for that purpose? Ewu
You are using the lie that you are in the US to make your other lies seem more credible. That is a clear misinformation propagation strategy and it seems you are doing it purposefully. The mods should take a look.
budaatum: Trust me, Ijebos, that if it were possible to stop disinformation, I'd ban the Bible and the Qur'an first, not so much because they misinform (they don't), but because people are misinformed by not understanding them. Thankfully, I see the unintended consequence of their enlightening effect so I'm glad both exist.
Biden, or shall I say, liberalism, fights disinformation by educating, and Biden's government is doing what it can against the darkness of magaism trying to drown it out, and going any further would be edging into fascism, I think.
My hope is that more see the light shining in the dark that is trying to overcome it.
Even the UK is doing a better job with it from what I've read. There has to be a balance. And I think laws can be structured that make spreading disinformation harder without running afoul of the 1st amendment. Maybe it's time to tweak section 230 and allow liability to media platforms that don't make a good faith concerted effort to shut down clear discernable lies that endanger the public good. The key of course would have to be in the language. We don't allow people to go into a crowded people and yell "FIRE" understanding what consequences that causes, we shouldn't allow the same on social media.
And Biden addressing American would be educating them.
bemeruca: You are a sick person. You are reporting me to the mods because I said something about FEMA you don't like? Good lawd. You are damaged beyond damage.
Get a life, you are a loser. Everything said is true.
You have posted up here pretending to live in the US, while spreading easily debunked lies and false information about a disaster in the US. A lot of people are struggling and and your goal seems to be, to make it harder for them to get help in some seeming service to the Republican party.
Mods, this user is continuously spreading lies and conspiracies about a disaster in the US under the guise of living in the US. Fema has different streams of Funding for disasters and immigration. Funds for Disaster relief is in a dedicated Fund that can't be used for other things. There are resources available for those in need. https://www.fema.gov/disaster/current/hurricane-helene/rumor-response
Xavier5: Yesterday, I had an interaction with a lady regarding the upcoming election, and in the course of the interaction, she said Xavier if you aren't appealed to Trump and Kamala, but you nevertheless prefer their running mates, Vance and Walz, rather than stay neutral during the election, why don't you support these candidates because of their running mates?
Her statement caused moments of reflection in me which made me come in agreement with her. Yes, I'm not a fan of Trump and Kamala for certain reasons, but their running mates appeal to me for numbers of reasons such as competence, intelligence, character (not perfect), patriotism and passion. So why can't I support a candidate, and by extension, support his or her running mate.
Vance and Walz are good guys... men of intelligence, passion, patriotism, and character (not perfect), but I pick Walz over Vance because of;
* Liberal bias * The competence, intelligence, passion, character and patriotism of Walz. * The personality of their principals. Trump has a nasty and an "alpha and omega" character, with him, I don't see J.D Vance having the opportunity to exude his capacity as a Vice President. I see a Mike Pence 2.0. But with Kamala, who is sane and reasonable, I see Walz being given that opportunity to exude his capacity.
So due to this, I've decided to lend my support to the Harris-Walz candidacy. The support for Kamala is the support for Walz, and having Walz at the White House working in partnership with President Kamala Harris, gives me good reasons to believe that America will be in good hands.
Yes, I will not agree with all their views and policies, but hey, there is more to America than whatever views or policies Xavier agrees with or not.
#Xavier
My guy, you're taking this too far. You can't be a liberal and have this much consternation about whether you will vote Trump or Harris. As a liberal that should have been an easy choice without all the discussion of running mates. Liberalism would have forced you to vote Harris based even on the liberal tenets you espoused.
budaatum: You think? Like bad things are happening to people like Guilani and Sidney Powell and Mr Infowars and the pussy grabber who believe dump won the last election or who drink bleach for covid? Really?
Dude, bad things are happening to magas on Truth Social already, and I am glad it is!
Biden can't and shouldn't waste his time attacking people's 1st Amendment. If fuqers break the law, the law will break them eventually.
Lol. I mean to the US. In this scenario there are people who may need aid who may not get it because of the disinformation Musk is spreading.
Biden should speak out. Not only would it be good governing (making sure people know what resources are available) it would be good politics. Showing Trump to be a liar about something as serious as a disaster.
bemeruca: people who want to put gay practice in the church are angry that trump endorsed bible is being sold.
look for better things to cry about. there is nothing wrong with this.
This is why Nigeria is corrupt and with mentalities like this will never succeed.
Ha set aside 3 million for 55,000 Bibles. 1.) It's a Public School, so why are Bibles needed in every classroom? What about the Quran or Torah? 2.) Leaving aside #1. The bibles would cost ~$55 per bible. Bibles can be had for ~$5 and probably less if bought in bulk. If you wanted leather, not sure why, but they can be bought around ~$25. What is the value in the $55 Bible vs. the $5. 3.) Oklahoma is ranked 49 out of 50 in Education. I'm sure that 3 million would have more beneficial uses.
It's surprising that anyone who live in a country inundated with corruption like Nigeria, is comfortable with this stuff. I guess it's true that we deserve the leaders we get.
budaatum: Why should there be a serious discussion "about how to meaningfully regulate social media that doesn't run afoul of the 1st amendment"? Do you want to deprive magas of their right to be scammed?
Fuq em! They deserve to be scammed if they congregate on a social media platform owned and run by a scammer.
I think bad things can happen if too many people believe untrue nutty things. i.e. Government aid workers are there to take your land.
Some people are threatening Hurricane aid workers because of all the mis/disinformation Trump/Musk and co. are spreading. BIden should really do more forceful pushback on it. But of course, he won't.
You say a place where a lot of people who believe a man who says the US election was stolen congregate is filled with scammers scamming those people? No, Really? There's going to have to be some serious discussion, if Dems win about how to meaningfully regulate social media that doesn't run afoul of the 1st amendment.
budaatum: We can not have a generalized understanding of words, I don't think, since we aren't all walking around with the same dictionary, which makes that "some point" when words one uses are understood in the context in which they are used. I, for instance, am very well known for using words in a non-conventional way. I'd say things like "handmaid's tailing" to illustrate a point, and you'd understand where I'm going because you understand the reference, but as you well know, some wouldn't have a clue what I'm saying and go humptydumpty on me, claiming I said what I never said. Now, if only they'd ask for a definition or clarification instead of assuming what one meant, but that would involve admitting they don't know what I meant, and the gods have forbidden the admittion of ignorance, it seems.
Words have to have a generalized meaning or we wouldn't be having this conversation. We would instead have to define each word so the other person can understand it, before we even begin to have a conversation. By arguing you are using some words in an unconventional way, means that those words have a conventional meaning.
budaatum: And here's a classic example of you assuming what I meant instead of understanding what I said. And to be honest, its why you and I argue so much. I never said "words mean what one says they mean", or at least that's not what I meant. But if I give you my definition of a word, you should at least consider my use of the word as I've defined it if I have. That in no way means words must mean what I say they mean, since it is very possible I'm ignorant and just talking from my ass or intentionally using words in my convoluted way.
I got that assumption from your example of humptydumtyism. If you didn't want someone to assume that you might have not used the example.
But, this discussion has broadened significantly. You've expanded your argument to something theoretical, that I would of had when I was 18, sitting in my dorm lounge at 1am in the morning.
This was a discussion about someone claiming themselves repeatedly to be liberal while saying they thought Mr. "'Where Woke goes to die', book burner", was a good Governor. There is context to the discussion which you seem to want to leave out. You can't be liberal and hold Desantis or Vivek up as paragons of good governing. Their beliefs are antithetical to liberals. If he wants to claim he's liberal, that's his choice. In my view and view of people who are liberal, he wouldn't be. So what is his desire to shoehorn himself into that label?
As to Liz Cheney, she made a choice which candidate to choose. Her choice could be based on her view of Patriotism which could be her primary Conservative or Republican tenet. I don't see anything inconsistent with that.
And again, it was Xavier labeling himself. No one asked him his ideology, he offered it.
Obrigardo: How can it be one person you dumb ass. Over 60 house maga cultists voted against it
"The aid that I voted against and I said we don't need isn't getting to my constituents fast enough and there isn't enough of it. Blame the Dems who fought me tooth and nail just to get this little bit passed, because I wanted 0" - Maga Republicans who Bemeruca would vote for if he actually lived in the US.
basilico: Was Trump the one who recommended lockdowns, social distancing etc. You expected him to gain jobs when schools were closed, people were laid off,hotels were closed,beauty salons were closed except for Nancy Pelosi.
Yes he was. As he was the fuckin President at the time. Wtf
budaatum: Have you not heard of humptydumtyism, where words mean exactly what one says they mean? It wouldn't be a thing if everyone lived by one recognised dictionary and word meaning.
Like I can't call myself a Christian despite not loving my neighbour and murdering her husband whom I covet and not believing in Christ? I wish humans were that logical.
You yourself mentioned Bush's "compassionate conservatism". I went further and looked up "fascist liberal" for its sake and was rather surprised, though its just the title of a book. Liberal conservative surprised me much less. I've after all heard some define liberalism as socialism, and even communism.
Words may matter to one, but it is, in my opinion, illiberal to assume words matter or must matter equally to everyone else. Such thinking leaves no room for idiots and fools who don't know what words mean and those who just see things different to how oneself might.
And I repeat. I'm not talking about anyone here in particular, but people, generally.
All fair and well but at some point we have to have a generalized understanding of words to communicate. And I posit that if your arguments rests on "words mean what one says they mean", it's probably not a winning argument. but ey.
But the issue isn't even what one chooses to call themselves. I don't care. But what I do see quite frequently nowadays are people saying stuff like "I'm a Democrat but" than take a 180 degree opposite stance. My antenna goes up when I hear that.
Why can't one just argue their positions and views, without labeling themselves?
budaatum: Labels make life easy for some, as it's hard for most to understand some can chew and spit and gaggle at the same time. You'd be easier to hit without an AR15 if I can pigeon hole you with a single shot. Cheaper on brain use too.
I love when I allah akbar Om jesus is lord, being the non-theist I am. Throw in some to be or not to be, and to most I'm shaking spears like abami eda in skirt.
Its fun confusing the dim witted, must say, as it forces brain use or dodoisation.
And no, I'm not talking about anyone here in particular, but people, generally.
But, he is the one labeling himself. This whole discussion is predicated on him labeling himself a liberal. Liberalism is an ideology. An ideology has tenets/beliefs. Do you think if you don't align with those tenets/beliefs of an ideology, that you can say you are part of that ideology? I think words matter and that's how we can effectively communicate.
He could have taken the stance you did. Just promoted his believes without choosing to label himself.
His abortion stance reminds me of the "compassionate conservatism" of George W. Bush. Same ideas, now trying to sell it as liberalism.
basilico: After COVID recovery was never really the same. When oil dealers project low oil production arising from leftie efforts to kill oil , the prices shoot up. I bet you know that. The threat to limit production is driving prices up, coupled with OPEC drawing down on production.
The myth of Donald Trump you created never fits with facts, so when you see data, you respond with gibberish.
Here is the chart of US gas prices. Tell me when Trump's policies reduced gas prices. Was it prior to 2020 when they were dropping at the same rate as under Obama until they got really low because of Covid or was it after 2020 when Trump's negotiated production cuts took into effect and they started rising esp. after the economy opened back up. Show me any data point for Trump's magical policies that got prices low outside of his mismanagement of Covid.
basilico: Skirting issues. COVID brought down demand who don't know that. Biden and Kamala are anti oil, largely ceding control of production to OPEC through their war on oil. Long term deliberate efforts to get rid of oil don't lower short term prices you idiot . Saudi and Russia for years fought shale production because their economies are dependent on oil,Joe Biden aided them . Assured of oil control they are happy with higher prices at less production. Kamala thinks she can reduce demand of oil by promoting green energy. Who is the largest consumer of oil in America?
Clearly you, Bemeruca and Raumdeuter don't know it because you guys keep saying Trump's policies were responsible for low gas prices.
Again Trump negotiated the agreement that drastically cut Oil production because he said gas prices were too low. The oil production cut lead to an increase in the price of gas. Oil/Gas prices are an input cost for any good, so Trump's oil production cut caused some of the inflation post pandemic. So, Trump bears some responsibility for not only the high gas prices but also some of the inflation (globally as well, since the increase in oil prices was global).
basilico: In NYC illegal immigrants have occupied dozens of quite good hotels , they are also getting free cash while some have new mobile phones.
Kamala Harris FEMA spent close to $ 1 billion on illegal aliens , now it does not have enough money to aid the hurricane hit areas that reports over 200 dead, over 1000 missing and are cut off from cell phone coverage and internet.
Starlink is aiding the people there. Trump has also visited and held fundraisers for the victims. Not forgetting Kamala admin refused to grant the contract to Starlink to provide high speed internet to over six hundred thousand homes in rural areas.
Kamala has provided this week billions of dollars to Ukraine.
Icing on the cake. Vice President Kamala Harris is currently facing criticism after announcing that $750 would be provided to Hurricane Helene victims through federal aid.
During a visit to Augusta, Georgia—one of the hardest-hit areas—Harris revealed the financial relief, which will be distributed via FEMA. The aid is intended for immediate food needs, with further support available for long-term damage and other losses. The announcement followed the Biden administration's declaration of Georgia as a disaster zone on October 1.
Anyone with some grey matter in his head, how you support such an administration is beyond reason.
You do know Republicans want to gut FEMA. So, if Republicans had their way, they would be getting 0. And the $750 is immediate relief to help people buy essential goods right now. They'll be able to apply for disaster relief funds and will probably get trailers/hotels and such to live in until their houses are sorted.
You should probably make a list of what you think is important and write down who supports.. Well, that is if you really cared. But you're just a troll.
basilico: CYA. Cover Your Ass. What actions did Joe Biden take on Day 1 regarding oil. He cancelled Keystone XL pipeline and poof 35000 jobs went up in air. He went ahead to sign other Executive Orders that curtailed prospecting of oil I presume Trump bye bye letter to Joe Biden was to take steps to limit domestic oil production. Bloody fool .
You live in a nation where the main export is oil and don't understand how oil exploration and production work. Here is a chart of US oil production. You can even see when the agreement was reached. Yeah, that big drop around May 2020. I'm sure you can guess what happened to the prices then. Can you point me where on the chart you think Biden's policies caused a crash or hurt the price.? Trump makes you stupid.