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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 7:15pm On Oct 05, 2024
budaatum:
Have you not heard of humptydumtyism, where words mean exactly what one says they mean? It wouldn't be a thing if everyone lived by one recognised dictionary and word meaning.


Like I can't call myself a Christian despite not loving my neighbour and murdering her husband whom I covet and not believing in Christ? I wish humans were that logical.

You yourself mentioned Bush's "compassionate conservatism". I went further and looked up "fascist liberal" for its sake and was rather surprised, though its just the title of a book. Liberal conservative surprised me much less. I've after all heard some define liberalism as socialism, and even communism.

Words may matter to one, but it is, in my opinion, illiberal to assume words matter or must matter equally to everyone else. Such thinking leaves no room for idiots and fools who don't know what words mean and those who just see things different to how oneself might.

And I repeat. I'm not talking about anyone here in particular, but people, generally.
All fair and well but at some point we have to have a generalized understanding of words to communicate.
And I posit that if your arguments rests on "words mean what one says they mean", it's probably not a winning argument. but ey.

But the issue isn't even what one chooses to call themselves. I don't care.
But what I do see quite frequently nowadays are people saying stuff like "I'm a Democrat but" than take a 180 degree opposite stance.
My antenna goes up when I hear that.

Why can't one just argue their positions and views, without labeling themselves?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 4:29pm On Oct 05, 2024
budaatum:
Labels make life easy for some, as it's hard for most to understand some can chew and spit and gaggle at the same time. You'd be easier to hit without an AR15 if I can pigeon hole you with a single shot. Cheaper on brain use too.

I love when I allah akbar Om jesus is lord, being the non-theist I am. Throw in some to be or not to be, and to most I'm shaking spears like abami eda in skirt.

Its fun confusing the dim witted, must say, as it forces brain use or dodoisation.

And no, I'm not talking about anyone here in particular, but people, generally.
But, he is the one labeling himself. This whole discussion is predicated on him labeling himself a liberal.
Liberalism is an ideology. An ideology has tenets/beliefs.
Do you think if you don't align with those tenets/beliefs of an ideology, that you can say you are part of that ideology?
I think words matter and that's how we can effectively communicate.

He could have taken the stance you did. Just promoted his believes without choosing to label himself.

His abortion stance reminds me of the "compassionate conservatism" of George W. Bush. Same ideas, now trying to sell it as liberalism.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 4:10pm On Oct 05, 2024
basilico:
After COVID recovery was never really the same.
When oil dealers project low oil production arising from leftie efforts to kill oil , the prices shoot up.
I bet you know that. The threat to limit production is driving prices up, coupled with OPEC drawing down on production.
The myth of Donald Trump you created never fits with facts, so when you see data, you respond with gibberish.

Here is the chart of US gas prices.
Tell me when Trump's policies reduced gas prices. Was it prior to 2020 when they were dropping at the same rate as under Obama until they got really low because of Covid or was it after 2020 when Trump's negotiated production cuts took into effect and they started rising esp. after the economy opened back up.
Show me any data point for Trump's magical policies that got prices low outside of his mismanagement of Covid.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 5:38am On Oct 05, 2024
basilico:
Skirting issues. COVID brought down demand who don't know that. Biden and Kamala are anti oil, largely ceding control of production to OPEC through their war on oil. Long term deliberate efforts to get rid of oil don't lower short term prices you idiot .
Saudi and Russia for years fought shale production because their economies are dependent on oil,Joe Biden aided them . Assured of oil control they are happy with higher prices at less production. Kamala thinks she can reduce demand of oil by promoting green energy.
Who is the largest consumer of oil in America?
Clearly you, Bemeruca and Raumdeuter don't know it because you guys keep saying Trump's policies were responsible for low gas prices.

Again Trump negotiated the agreement that drastically cut Oil production because he said gas prices were too low. The oil production cut lead to an increase in the price of gas. Oil/Gas prices are an input cost for any good, so Trump's oil production cut caused some of the inflation post pandemic. So, Trump bears some responsibility for not only the high gas prices but also some of the inflation (globally as well, since the increase in oil prices was global).

Here is Billionaire Marc Cuban explaining it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSrXinrvaEI&t=4s
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 10:20pm On Oct 04, 2024
basilico:
In NYC illegal immigrants have occupied dozens of quite good hotels , they are also getting free cash while some have new mobile phones.

Kamala Harris FEMA spent close to $ 1 billion on illegal aliens , now it does not have enough money to aid the hurricane hit areas that reports over 200 dead, over 1000 missing and are cut off from cell phone coverage and internet.

Starlink is aiding the people there. Trump has also visited and held fundraisers for the victims. Not forgetting Kamala admin refused to grant the contract to Starlink to provide high speed internet to over six hundred thousand homes in rural areas.

Kamala has provided this week billions of dollars to Ukraine.

Icing on the cake.

Vice President Kamala Harris is currently facing criticism after announcing that $750 would be provided to Hurricane Helene victims through federal aid.

During a visit to Augusta, Georgia—one of the hardest-hit areas—Harris revealed the financial relief, which will be distributed via FEMA. The aid is intended for immediate food needs, with further support available for long-term damage and other losses. The announcement followed the Biden administration's declaration of Georgia as a disaster zone on October 1.

Anyone with some grey matter in his head, how you support such an administration is beyond reason.
You do know Republicans want to gut FEMA. So, if Republicans had their way, they would be getting 0. And the $750 is immediate relief to help people buy essential goods right now. They'll be able to apply for disaster relief funds and will probably get trailers/hotels and such to live in until their houses are sorted.

Matt Gaetz Voted Against FEMA Funding Right Before Hurricane Helene Struck
https://www.newsweek.com/matt-gaetz-voted-against-fema-funding-before-hurricane-helene-hit-1961501

You should probably make a list of what you think is important and write down who supports..
Well, that is if you really cared. But you're just a troll.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 10:08pm On Oct 04, 2024
basilico:
CYA. Cover Your Ass.
What actions did Joe Biden take on Day 1 regarding oil. He cancelled Keystone XL pipeline and poof 35000 jobs went up in air. He went ahead to sign other Executive Orders that curtailed prospecting of oil
I presume Trump bye bye letter to Joe Biden was to take steps to limit domestic oil production.
Bloody fool .
You live in a nation where the main export is oil and don't understand how oil exploration and production work.
Here is a chart of US oil production. You can even see when the agreement was reached. Yeah, that big drop around May 2020. I'm sure you can guess what happened to the prices then.
Can you point me where on the chart you think Biden's policies caused a crash or hurt the price.?
Trump makes you stupid.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 8:16pm On Oct 04, 2024

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 8:15pm On Oct 04, 2024
Obrigardo:
I don't know if I should laugh or cry to this
I didn't even understand it.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 7:13pm On Oct 04, 2024
basilico:
What was the gas price the day he left office and today and also at it's height within Kamala Harris tenure?
Sorry, my mind doesn't work the way yours does. It actually processes information.
Oil prices were low due to the pandemic. A lot of demand a glut of supply.
Trump garnered an agreement between OPEC and US oil companies to cut production.
His argument was gas prices were too low.
That production increase increased the price of oil and led to some of the global inflation we see now.
Trump even bragged about it.

Special Report: Trump told Saudi: Cut oil supply or lose U.S. military support - sources
https://www.reuters.com/article/economy/special-report-trump-told-saudi-cut-oil-supply-or-lose-us-military-support--idUSKBN22C1V3/
Oil Nations, Prodded by Trump, Reach Deal to Slash Production
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/business/energy-environment/opec-russia-saudi-arabia-oil-coronavirus.html
Energy
OPEC and allies’ oil production cut is Trump’s ‘biggest and most complex’ deal ever: Dan Yergin
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/13/opec-cut-is-trumps-biggest-and-most-complex-deal-ever-dan-yergin.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44Si9VR0Lj4
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 5:21pm On Oct 04, 2024
Marc Cuban is doing a good job here.
I still can't believe Dems have hammered this home. Actually I can believe it.
It's somewhat complicated, but could have been done.

Trump was responsible for the increase of the price of Gas. He made an agreement to cut production to increase oil prices.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 4:58pm On Oct 04, 2024
Xavier5:
Okay sir 😂😂😂😂😂
#Xavier
I called you out a while ago on it.
It's obvious. I initially just thought you were confused.

But, it's deceptive, no?
It's like these white people on twitter pretending to be black. What the difference?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 4:44pm On Oct 04, 2024
Xavier5:
To my fellow liberals that might be curious on why I chose such stand on the issue of abortion. I'm open to discussion. Liberal to liberal, let's engage, as we appeal to our liberal values on the issue 😎

And one more thing to all who care to know, I personally think pro-life and pro-choice are not conservative and liberal ideologies, I feel we are just the one making them so for political reasons. In my interactions with people, I've come across pro-choice conservatives and pro-life liberals, the latter I happen to be a part of... proudly 😎

But as I earlier said, if any liberal here wants to engage me on the topic, I'm open to that discussion, after all, reasoning is a liberal value 🙃🙃🙃

#Xavier
So it is the latter? As I thought.
You are obviously aware you are not a liberal but it serves your purposes to pretend you are to engage other liberals on abortion and other matters.
It would be a good technique if it weren't so obvious.
Question, where did you learn this? Was it self taught or was it in some church you belong?
And don't you think it's deceptive?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 4:18pm On Oct 04, 2024
Xavier5:
As usual, he didn't ask which liberal value made me pro-life, but rather jumped to branding. You are so easy to lay trap for 😂😂😂

As for your question, I'm not anti-choice, but rather I'm hugely pro human rights and value, a fundamental liberal value.

I'm heavily pro-liberty, but when such liberty stands in the way of a human life to live, I oppose. I will always be in support of women's rights over their body, as far as an innocent, powerless, and voiceless life is not been threatened.

This is the reason why I made it clear that, we should create systems that ensured women shouldn't be mothers if they don't want to, and that deals with the menance of unwanted pregnancies, while also ensuring that the life of the babies are preserved. Liberal values of human rights and value, equality, truth, altruism, morality, reasoning and open mindedness demands such.

Human rights that do not involve unborn babies is not human rights.

PS: I'm pro-life, except in critical cases.

We can have that discussion, or you can choose to brand. Your choice.

#Xavier
Lay a trap? The discussion here is whether you are liberal, not your views on Abortion.
Listen you're not liberal.
And it sounds either
1.) You are not sure of your political ideology and somewhat confused, as you seem to be all over the map with your logic. You're pro-liberty except when it comes to bodily autonomy or the liberty a person has with their own body? What does that even mean?
2.) You're trying to troll, pretending to be a liberal while pushing conservative ideas so make yourself and those ideas some more reasonable. Sort of the same thing JD Vance did in that debate.

Either way, as I said, you're not a liberal. If you aren't trolling, you should evaluate why you feel the necessity to take the "liberal" moniker. It's not by force.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 3:25pm On Oct 04, 2024
Xavier5:
To the "Xavier isn't a liberal" crew, food don done.

But before anyone start screaming "Xavier isn't a liberal", a wise person will first ask me why I'm pro-life, and which liberal value make me so.

As I said, Abortion shouldn't be a political issue, but rather a moral and altruistic issue.

PS: That's a comment on a Student for Life YouTube video on abortion.


#Xavier
So you are anti choice and call yourself a liberal?
Dude, you've confused yourself finish.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 3:20pm On Oct 04, 2024
raumdeuter:
People have pet names they prefer, Male female, black white Americans Nigerians, Germans etc. Its normal except to deranged minds

So who in America cannot pronounce or will be biased against a Rafael Edward?

Joseph Robinette goes by Joe Biden
William Clinton goes by Bill Clinton
People named Chancellor go by Chance
Babajide Sanwoolu goes by Jide Sanwolu
Ronald DeSantis goes by Ron
Chukwuemeka Ojuku goes by Emeka
Adebola Tinubu goes by Bola Tinubu
No big deal in it

Only perpetual victims make a big deal of nothing
He said Piyush Jindal changing his name to Bobby Jindal was because he wanted to use a pet name. Where is Bobby in his name.
I keep telling you you're an idiot. Bwahahahahahah

This was the original post on this. You went full circle and now are agreeing with me. Captain Intellectual Dishonesty in action.
IjeBos:
This post is telling of what you do and who you are.

When I did my citizenship I changed my middle name to an English variant of my Nigerian middle name, to be as authentic as I could. Because I have a distinct Nigerian first name, I primarily use my middle name in my career.
And everyone I know does that some degree. Whether it is using their English sounding middle name or shortening their Nigerian name.
So, if this is foreign or news to you, it's clear you have never been in a position to seek a sought after job.
You're kinda telling on yourself.
And again, a logical fallacy underpins this post.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 3:17pm On Oct 04, 2024
Xavier5:
Or maybe that's just a person agreeing with common sense.

And by the way, base on the liberal values, you've not explain how Xavier isn't a liberal... 😶


#Xavier
I explained it to you. Reread the post. You keep pushing people like Vance, Vivek and Desantis. You can't be liberal pushing people who are illiberal. Maybe it's because you don't know their policies.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 3:13pm On Oct 04, 2024
Xavier5:
😂😂😂 cry cry cry
Look it, here's a tell. If you have MAGA mainly agreeing with you, you aren't liberal or may want to check your views to see if they are reflecting what you want them to.
Just a tell.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 3:11pm On Oct 04, 2024
raumdeuter:
People have pet names they prefer, Male female, black white Americans Nigerians, Germans etc. Its normal except to deranged minds

So who in America cannot pronounce or will be biased against a Rafael Edward?

Joseph Robinette goes by Joe Biden
William Clinton goes by Bill Clinton
People named Chancellor go by Chance
Babajide Sanwoolu goes by Jide Sanwolu
Ronald DeSantis goes by Ron
Chukwuemeka Ojuku goes by Emeka
Adebola Tinubu goes by Bola Tinubu
No big deal in it

Only perpetual victims make a big deal of nothing
Lol.
See shift.
Captain Intellectual Dishonesty doing his thing. Lol.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 3:07pm On Oct 04, 2024
Xavier5:
I call Nancy Pelosy (who am a huge fan of by the way), Pelosy or Nancy Pelosy.

I call Bernie Sanders, Bernie or Bernie Sanders.

So what's the implicit bias? Funny enough, this people, especially the females, are okay with being called by their first names. So are they sexist also? Note, we are taking about enlightened, successful and powerful women here.


#Xavier
[Note, we are taking about enlightened, successful and powerful women here.] who want to win an election in a very sexist country. That is the reason Kamala is not emphasising that she will be the first Woman President the way Clinton did.

Read the study I told you to google. You're arguing like Raumdeuter now. Base your arguments in some data, not one off cases.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 2:58pm On Oct 04, 2024
raumdeuter:
Barack Hussein Obama did not have to change his name
Kamala Harris did not have to change her name

Adewale Adeyemo did not have to change his name

Satya Nadella did not have to change his name

Adebayo Ogunlesi did not have to change his name

Chinwetel Ejiofor did not have to change his name

Vivek Ramaswamy did not have to change his name

Ketanji Jackson did not have to change her name

All these are men and women who worked at highest level, achieved highest honors

It's only failures like you who give that excuse.
Nimarata Nikki Randhawa. She uses her middle name Nikki. Wonder why?
Rafael Edward Cruz. He goes by Ted Cruz. Wonder why?
Piyush Jindal. He goes by Bobby Jindal. Wonder why?

So, what did your list prove. Are they the norm or outliers. Do outliers speak to whether something exists or doesn't exist?
Your goal is never understanding, just faux intellectual bullshit.
Good studies have been done on this, yet you pull out random names as if it means something.
It's as expected form a third tier education. A lot of nonsense.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 2:40pm On Oct 04, 2024
Obrigardo:
The maga cult is gonna be heavily depressed in the coming months. Just scared what these sick people will do.
People are spending decades in jail for his lies.
I know.
I'm somewhat glad Peters is going to jail for 9 years for a State crime that Trump can't pardon.
Hopefully it'll sew some real fear in some of these bad actors.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 2:32pm On Oct 04, 2024
raumdeuter:
This post is exactly why you are a morron, People tell you what they want to be addressed as Kamala introduced herself the way she likes to be addressed. Many women have done the same. You the village idiott who has never been a woman for 1second in your miserable life is here wearing cape when they didnt ask you

What should should be evaluating is your lack of success in all facet of life as a result of your poor education and mental illness

So Kamala is exuding toxic masculinity, Amazon is also exuding toxic masculinity, but its the confused Ijebos that is showing femininity? You now see that you are really insane
You speak as someone who is so unexposed. From not understanding why minoirites change names to look for employment, to speaking clumsily about masculinity. Iron sharpens iron. Find better/stronger iron.
Everything about you wreaks of a fragile ego and insecurity.
At a certain age, men want to be better men, you seem to want determined to revert.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 2:28pm On Oct 04, 2024
budaatum:
This, I guess, is why non-choir boy Tinubu is our president of Nigeria. And the fact we didn't care about character is the reason we are rejoicing now, I suppose.
Lol.
It's as if thought and research is anathema to him.
We have a first hand example of a country that does not care about character of their politicians and we see well that is going.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 2:26pm On Oct 04, 2024
Obrigardo:
She was basilico loco's heroine. The rapist trump called her a "star".

They are all lunatics.
I heard her husband died and her son died in a parachuting accident.
I understand why the Judge couldn't be more lenient, but she is clearly broken.
Trump's going to hell for what he has wrought on these unwell people.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 2:23pm On Oct 04, 2024
Xavier5:
What I'm saying is, me calling people by their first name, surname or full name has nothing to do with sexism, but rather what they're often called by. I do this to both male and females. I've called men and women by their first names, surnames and both, depending on the circumstance or what they are often called by. If it's sexism, I would only be acting in such manner only towards females, but I do it to both male and females. And this applies to a lot of people.

Are there people that might do it because of sexism? Yes... or I might also say, maybe. But that doesn't apply to everyone, certainly not me.

Not everything is rooted in sexism. Not everything is about race and gender. That's just it.
#Xavier
They've done studies on this name thing. In one study called "How gender determines the way we speak about professionals" they did a blind sub study where they found people(men and women) were 4x more likely to call woman by their first names. Google and read that study (The sub study is Study 4) and tell me how you fault with the study. And if you can't find fault with it, then tell me why you are arguing that it isn't a thing?

Again, you probably call woman by their first names which they are generally called, because what they are generally called is rooted in sexism and a power imbalance. You may not be sexist, but wouldn't you be unconsciously perpetuated that? And that is what an implicit bias is. Again, you didn't answer why Biden and Trump are called by their last name(Biden even when he went on a Bus tour with his firs name) and Harris isn't.

Not everything is about race and gender, but lots of things are. Not everyone has to be sexist or racist for it do exist and do real damage.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 2:12pm On Oct 04, 2024
Xavier5:
@bolded, define liberalism, and explain how Xavier doesn't fit into it?

@colored, show me where I supported that statement by Trump? If you've been observant, and not try to say BS simply because it suits your narrative, you would have seen multiple times where I criticized and ridiculed Trump for making that statement.

Bro you can scream all you want about me not being liberal. That's your damn business. But the truth remains, your view of me is irrelevant and useless.

Every socio-political view I hold is rooted in a liberal value, and when I express those views, I make sure I reveal the liberal values they are based on. That's it.

So if my view, or whom I choose to support, triggers you, that's your issue to deal with. But the fact remains, screaming Xavier is not a liberal won't stop Xavier from being a proud liberal.

As for Vivek, I support him because he's smart, patriotic and passionate. Same way I support folks like Obama, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosy, Tim Walz etc. Reasoning and open mindedness, which are liberal values, demands I do such while also prompting me not to agree with all their views and policies. Supporting someone doesn't mean you have to agree with him or her on every thing.

So, as I said, if it makes you feel good to believe whatever you wish to believe of me, then be my guest. But, I will always say it, as a person, I live my life base on liberal values of truth, reasoning, progressiveness, open mindedness, liberty, human rights and value, equality, democracy etc. If that's not one being a liberal, then good for you.

When you started these "branding", it was funny, but now it's just so ridiculous and annoying. But to settle this unnecessary argument, just respond to the first question I asked, what's liberalism, and how does Xavier not fit into that?



And talking about Trump, show me where I said I would vote for Trump?

I've always made it known, that far as Kamala and Trump are on the presidential ticket, I wash my hands off the election. So please, stop saying things that were never said. You are just fond of saying imaginary BS in other to suit your narrative. If that makes you feel good, then good.



#Xavier
I'm not trying to insult you. You're sound like a smart person.
My beef is with saying you're a liberal.

So, example, this quote. This is what liberals believe.
So, as I said, if it makes you feel good to believe whatever you wish to believe of me, then be my guest. But, I will always say it, as a person, I[b] live my life base on liberal values of truth, reasoning, progressiveness, open mindedness, liberty, human rights and value, equality, democracy etc. If that's not one being a liberal, then good for you[/b].
But if you do believe it, how can you vote for someone who doesn't? The goal of liberalism is to further those believes. By voting for people opposed to those ideas, how do you further say something like equality?
If you aren't trying to further equality do you really believe in it? Do you think Vivek or Desantis believes similar?
And if you do really believe those things, how can your resonate with people like Desantis and Vivek who preach hate, non inclusion, non equality, etc. etc. You get?
It's one thing to say you are liberal, but liberalism is in your actions and deeds. Desantis literally believes in book bannings. Is that liberal? And so by voting for him, you would be forwarding a policy of book bannings. Is that liberal?

You never said you would vote for Trump. But Desantis was trying to out Trump Trump's policies to win the Republican nomination. Unless you couldn't vote for Trump because of his behavior, Desantis had the same or even more conservative policies.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 1:42pm On Oct 04, 2024
Xavier5:
Honestly, this implicit bias you're talking about is alien to me. I've always called people by first name or their full name, and if there's a title, I add it. Yes, at times I call people by their surnames if that's what I noticed they are often being called with, and this has nothing to do with sexism to me, because I do it both to males and females.

For example, I call Kamala Harris, Harris. Sometimes, Kamala, other times Kamala Harris, Vice President, Vice President Harris, Vice President Kamala or Vice President Kamala Harris. This is also applicable to the way I call Trump with the exclusion that I've never called him, Donald, and that's because I rarely hear people call him that, so I just go with the flow, unlike Kamala Harris that gets called often with Kamala, Harris or Kamala Harris. To me, this has nothing to do with sexism, but rather how a person is often called by people. And this, I think, is applicable to lots of people. Not everything is sexism.
#Xavier
I did bias training a couple of years ago. When I did the 'evaluation' there were some biases I had I wasn't aware of. It wasn't until I thought about did I realize it. It you have never done implied bias training, you should, it's interesting.

So, one thing that you said, is no one calls Trump, Donald. I know his full name, I think everyone does. I even know his initial, Donald J. Trump. He signs it everywhere. But the world calls him Trump. I write Trump. Sometimes rarely they call him Donald Trump. But noone ever calls him Donald. Why? A man whose signature is strength is never called his first name. Think about it.
Onto, Biden. People rarely if ever call him his first name. Sometimes Joe Biden, but rarely if ever Joe. In 2020, Biden had a bus tour, where his slogan was "JOE, No Malarkey". But still he is rarely called Joe. Why?
Yet Harris is more likely than not to be called Kamala than Harris. Why? You dismissed it easily. You didn't explain the apparent contradiction in the treatments of all 3.

And FYI, that flow you talk about is sexism and when we go with it unawares it becomes an implied bias.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 1:26pm On Oct 04, 2024
Xavier5:
Good for you, but here's the thing, what you think of me is useless and irrelevant. You can scream center right from now till tomorrow if it makes you feel good, but that doesn't make me that.

Like it or not, I'm a liberal... a liberal that's enormously committed to Liberal values such as; Human rights and value, liberty, equality, reasoning, open mindedness, progressiveness, democracy, consent of the governed, truth etc

And these liberal values prevents me from going radical in my liberalism. They prevent me from ass licking the left wing, but rather make me stand for what's true and objective. They make me call out the bullshit, irrespective of whether it's left or right, and to commend goodness, irrespective of it's left or right. That's just it.

Commitment to these values make me clash with some liberals at times, which results in the tag, "not liberal enough", because I chose not to accept their myopic or radical liberal views that now dominate 21st century liberalism.

So if my commitment to those liberal values make me "not liberal enough", or make you think I'm center right simply because I clash with you on some issues, then so be it. But irrespective of what you or anyone here thinks, I, Xavier is a liberal... a proud liberal for that matter, but not a radical one, that's the difference, and nothing will ever change that.


#Xavier
Words have meaning and you can't change words to suit you.

What you espouse in this thread is not liberal ideology. If you ran on what you espoused, no liberal would vote for you.
Bernie Sanders is liberal. AOC is liberal. Elizabeth Warren is liberal. You are not liberal.
Look it, Liberals wouldn't think the Wall St. Journal is unbiased. The Wall St Journal is known to be Conservative outlet in it's editorializing.

Read this part of your post. Liberal and Conservative ideology is diametrically opposed to each other. Conservatives reject change and tolerate inequality and liberals want to advance change and oppose inequality. Liberals would not be seeing eye to eye with someone who thinks immigrants like the Haitians are basically animals. The phrase "liberals and conservatives seeing eye to eye with each other" sounds nice but it is a literary flourish without meaning.

And I'm 100% in agreement with that. For the first time in a long time, I saw liberals and conservatives seeing eye to eye with each other, and disagreeing respectively in the comments. For the first time in a long while, patriotism was the order of the day. The aura of Vance and Walz truly rubbed off on the audience.
And lastly, no liberal would say Desantis, Vivek would be a great president. Desantis believes in book burning. He is so antithetical to liberalism. He is literally illiberal. Destanus and Vivek are smarter Trump's. And would a liberal say they would vote for Trump?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 6:17am On Oct 04, 2024
raumdeuter:
So Kamala and Amazon are women who hate other women

And you are the make belief woman who loves women more than natural born women

You can go for your gender change
You seem to miss the point a lot. It's not whether Harris prefers being called Kamala. It's why I chose to call here Kamala.
And thinking about it and seeing the data from the studies, I realized that I and probably a lot of people have an implicit bias around this. And thus it is something I chose to be aware of and correct.
I am comfortable with my own growth and evaluating my biases when I see evidence that one may exist.
You should explore the insecurity you have that you consider that a feminine trait.

You seem chalk full of toxic masculinity. Combined with your third tier education, I see why you have a predilection for wannabe strong men like Trump. You have all the traits of an emotionally frail man.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 3:15am On Oct 04, 2024
budaatum:
I agree he doesn't seem to know what Handmaid's Tale is about. But then, most dump supporters don't know what they voting for neither.
This post makes his reply even more nonsensical.
It takes 1 minute to just google something.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 2:57am On Oct 04, 2024
budaatum:
The bright side is she got 9 years of wall staring to heal herself of her brokenness.
Yeah. Hearing her in court, part of me felt bad for her.
I feel like Trump took advantage of the fact that she's not well.
Hopefully she gets the care she needs.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 12:43am On Oct 04, 2024
budaatum:
Basilico should try this as his argument if he ever got brought before a judge for his lies and baseless conspiracies. Be warned though, it failed.
She is mentally ill.
She seemed not to understand the consequences even when the Judge was talking to her.
Something is broken there.

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