₦airaland Forum

xandy84:
You're right but being a citizen is not all roses. I have lived 10 years in US and I can tell you that sometimes, you're better off in Lagos than New York or LA if your life is meaningless, purposeless in US when you can start afresh and make something out of it back home. Going to jail is no fun and after you served your time, opportunities become rear at least 7 years after end of your sentence and that is the reason most criminals goes back to the life of crime.
I wrote one my my masters degree paper on compariing rate of recidivism in America and Norway. The rate of recidivism in Norway is 20 per cent while America is 60 percent and as a foreigner who has no family support, your chances of survival is even slimmer. Think about it, who get to house you, feed you, cloth you when you out of prison knowing you ain't going to get a job anytime soon. Everybody will run from you, even your brother phone number will be disconnected ASAP.

You're not wrong. I almost moved to the Lagos pre pandemic. So, yeah at a certain level value of life in Lagos can be better.
And you're not wrong about post conviction. But with a US passport you can leave, build again and come back.

Interesting research. Did you find race/racism had an impact on recidivism?

xandy84:
Even with US citizenship, after leaving prison, it's tough to get your life back in track. Nobody wants to employ someone just get out of jail and without job to pay your bills, person life go spiral out of control quickly.
America has high rate of recidivism because the system never forgive even when you pay your dues to the society.

True, but all things being equal, better to be a US citizen than not when dealing with the exact same situation. Like in this situation, with a US citizenship, the guy would at least be able to stay in the US with his children. And though he would be a felon, if he really wanted to he could find opportunities. But, because he's not a citizen he'll most likely be deported.

For anyone interested, 8 U.S. Code § 1227 spells out the classes of deportable aliens (what aliens can be deported for). Below are some.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227

Unperturbedpota:
OMG

It doesn't work that way this is not Nigeria here the states are largely independent.though this a federal felony meaning federal jurisdiction is in okay due to the crime and sentencing but not the way you are sayings

Basically he will be deported and his green card revoked simple!!!?

There is no way around it period ! You can go to re American Embassy 8n Nigeria to protest this if you don't like it

1.) I'm a US citizen.
2.) He's making a good point. I think he was arguing in the situation where it wasn't a federal conviction. If he was convicted in State court of a felony what would happen? Not sure how independent states are in Nigeria, but they are independent in the US, though Federal law is supreme. Because of that there has to be a way for the Federal government to know he was arrested and convicted of a felony that may make him eligible for deportation. So, if the state must report it, there is a possibility he could fall through some cracks in the reporting process. I don't know, but it makes sense.

DiscoverID:
But Joe Biden and Hunter Biden were doing fraud with some Chinese and Ukrainians and yet he was elected the president and the FBI even protected him against prosecution. America 🇺🇸 has the most fraudulent system out there, unless you are broke. Quit the sanctimonious claims.

You should take the propaganda to another thread. The basis of your argument is not based in any facts outside the rantings in right wing echo chambers. And, yes I'm fully aware of the allegations and no I'm not arguing it with you.

Unperturbedpota:
You are very stupid daft and useless . What do you mean by fall through the cracks ? Useless idiot who has beevr left Nigeria. You think this is a movie? Fool, in the states we have records of everything, useless idiot no such thing as thieves like you falling through cracks .

Bastard

I don't think all the insults are necessary here. I believe he may have a point. As I believe the states have to report it to the Federal government. Similar to what some states are doing/not doing with illegal immigrants.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

But there is a lesson here. If you can get your US citizenship, get it done. Don't procrastinate esp. since it doesn't effect your Nigerian citizenship. You, never know what happens in life. And you'd rather be facing it with the protections of a US citizenship than not.

BraniacX:
is this your new method?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 when you're obviously too stupid to score a point back you call your opponents gay, is that supposed to make me squeamish or defensive or start denying or did you really think that will sidetrack me and suddenly make me forget that we shouldn't blame you for your stupidity rather we should blame your medical condition lexicophobia or something like that! 😅😅 Benalvino3 the dvmbcunt afraid of dictionaries because without them he would be able to impress basilico and some other retards and be the star of his failed show😁 come with something more interesting, gay just doesn't cut it

It is his current method indeed. Has all the intellectual heft of a 5 year old yelling "I'm rubber, your glue.. blah blah blah". Clearly the level of discourse he's accustomed and unfortunately, the level of discourse he and his amigos bring to this thread. But, maybe it's something he can't quite help.

There was another Racist shooting of black people by a self professed White Supremacist in Florida. Before that, I was speaking to a white neighbor last weekend wekend. They have a vacation/winter house in Florida. They told me they were staying in Boston this year because how crazy Florida had become. These two are thoughtful people but not "dyed in the wool" liberals. So, their words were startling.

Anyhow, I always wonder what are in the hearts of Republicans. They seem to be playing to the lowest common denominator(Racist White Supremacists) for votes/grift since most of these voters are diehard Trump supporters. Do they not understand the chasm they are opening up?
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/26/us/dollar-general-shooting-jacksonville-florida.html

Obrigardo:
I knew you would play your hand. What's that your troll username again?

Ijebos, is this guy not that porn and drug infested nuisance?

Yeah, that's slyfoxx.
These are more of SlyFoxx's recent "new" usernames so you can know who you are talking to.
SlyFoxx = Timesup2345, MentalCase98, BornAgainCow, Shellaking4real, NotoriousThug, Wonderman76

I'm sure there are others, but I'll leave it there for now.
It's actually sad one person can be this nuts and have this much time on his hands. Nigerians have to get rid of the Mental Health Illness stigma.

Obrigardo:
I knew you would play your hand. What's that your troll username again?

Ijebos, is this guy not that porn and drug infested nuisance?

Let me go through some of the posts.

Anyone interested in the legal contours of Trump's document case. This is a good synopsis of Judge Cannon's recent hearing/motions. Summary; Judge Cannon stepped in it by not allowing the SCO(Special Counsel Office) to file the motion sealed and asking why a secret Grand Jury was empaneled in DC. So the SCO took the opportunity to explain that a witness lied to the Grand Jury in DC and Trump's lawyer has a conflict of interest. So, the Grand Jury was dealing with that. That witness was one of the IT workers who helped Trump commit obstruction. And here is the kicker, he admitted he lied, admitted Trump directed him to commit obstruction only after the Grand Jury Judge appointed him a Public Defender to counsel him against the wishes of his paid by Trump PAC lawyer. I bet Cannon and Trump's lawyer now wish Cannon would have kept all this under seal. Judge Cannon is fn'ing inept. And seems to not have learned all things Trump touches dies.

https://twitter.com/rparloff/status/1694270181567078607
Parts of the tweet. Some interesting stuff but also in the weeds.

[b]Govt’s filing yesterday in USA v Trump (MAL) is devastating. It was responding to Judge Cannon’s inquiry—acting on her own—suggesting there was something abusive about govt’s continued use of DC grand jury after M-a-L indictment was handed down. ... /1

... It all began when the govt asked for a hearing on whether atty Stanley Woodward had a conflict of interest because he (a) reps def Nauta; (b) previously rep’d Trump Employee 4 (Yuscil Taveras)—now a govt witness vs. Nauta et al—& (c) reps two other potential witnesses. ... /2

... Govt tried to accompany that motion with a sealed filing discreetly explaining the potential conflicts, but Judge Cannon—acting on her own—instantly struck it & then demanded to know why DC grand jury was still sitting ... /3
…
... Yesterday—Cannon having giving it no choice but to outline Woodward’s potential conflicts on the record— govt provided the extraordinary & damning timeline. ... /6

... In Mar 2023, govt called Taveras—then rep’d by Woodward—before DC grand jury. Beforehand, govt warned Woodward of a potential conflict, but Woodward said he knew of none. Taveras then perjured self, denying discussing destroying video surveillance footage with De Oliveira. /7

... Govt notes in passing that Taveras had been referred to Woodward by a Trump lawyer and his fees were then being paid by Trump’s Save America PAC. ... /8

Judge Boasberg asked an independent counsel, Shelli Peterson of DC Federal Public Defenders, to advise Taveras on potential conflicts. Taveras asked Peterson to represent him and then retracted his false testimony, implicating Nauta, De O, & Trump, per govt. /12[/b]

Patented:
Typically they have a car driving behind them that serves as a barrier.

I used to cycle as a workout at a point, used to head out at past 6 and get back in by past 7 in the morning. Idea was to be off the road before traffic got crazy and that was weekends only.

Thanks. That makes sense.
So, a friend of mine recently cautioned me against it. Told me he had a friend die in Ikoyi biking. I'm double minded and so following the path of least resistance, most likely won't bring a bike, but would still like to bike at least once while I'm there. Is there any place to rent a decent bike? Appreciate all the info.

Shellaking4real:
Is it in Nigeria you want to go and report that someone threatened or insulted your monicker on Nairaland? You will be flogged out of court lol.

You should probably stay out of business you don't understand.
This is a matter of someone saying they do know/will find out my identity. Claimed that they know DSS agents and will have me arrested at the airport. That they will monitor the hotel that I stay and have me arrested/raped. I told him it sounded the rantings of a mad man and I didn't take if seriously until 1.) He said he knew/was working hard to find out my identity 2.) Said he knew the site owner and he was going to reveal my info to him and 3.)disclosed that their mother used to work in the hotel I regularly stay and would harass me there (even posted a bank transaction with the woman's name of a payment he claims the woman sent him to research me). Outside of the mother thing, I assume the rest isn't true, but like with all things Nigeria, and the seemingly depravity of this guy it is better to be safe than sorry. Have no need to take it court. Too much time to invest when I'll be in Nigeria for a couple of weeks. He knows what I told him I would do and those methods don't require that.

Edit: I thought about this. You may be flogged out of court. Me, on the other hand, not so much. But it is Nigeria and things work differently for different people.

bemeruca:
Trump use the word grab EM by the pp... Who is them? Was he talking about a specific person? No one has ever reported trump for grabbing them by the pp.

Trump went on to say when you are celeb, they let you do anything. This is true. It's also true for a popular guy in school. It's a locker talk

Only thicko's don't get this.

Dude, get a life... Stop living on nairaland

"Locker Talk" lol. Right. Reads exactly the way it would for someone who's never been inside a locker room.
This whole post is a tell. Only guys who weren't "popular" with women and who don't get woman think what Trump said is what a "popular" guy would say. Again. Reads like someone who wasn't "popular" in school
His shit was rapey. I have some very degenerate male friends, (cocaine off woman's breasts they just met in a hotel bathroom type). And none of them would say that sh*t. In fact we all laughed about it after the fact at how NUTZ it was. Who says that even in joking; a Rapist does.

MentalCase98:
Lol this dude. Do you have some kind of sick obsession with me? Will your life end if you don’t mention me for one day? And you better don’t go around posting peoples names here becuase you think they are me before you land yourself in serious trouble. You are nothing but a jobless fool who spends all his days investigating nairaland monickers and who he thinks is behind them.

Just take a look at the kind of pathetic life you live. Even I that you call a troll don’t have that kind of time. You think if I really put my mind and effort to it I can’t find out who you are? But who has that kind of time? Only a jobless fvck like you.

Well Done Femi, ~2 hours a day on here! 2 hours a day spent talking about a country you want to wipe out and you've never been too. Momsie must be proud. As I said, wash your a$$ go outside and see the sun.
I thought your mom already paid you 15k to find out who I am. How'd that go? Still threatening people I see, you'll learn your lesson soon.

DeepSight:
You don't say!
What a shame! At that age someone thinks it's manly to spend time boasting about how he's mishandled women!

Pity!

At any age. That shit Trump said wasn't locker room talk but "rape-y" talk. No one talks like that outside of sexual predators. And there is a big difference between sleeping with a lot of woman and being a sexual predator.. consent.

DeepSight:
I was gonna say teenager. I just looked at his username and made a guess.

Very teenage ish posts.

I thought so too. But I was shocked to find out that MentalCase/SlyFoxx/Timesup is a man his late 30's..

basilico:
FDA last week at last did at last declare that doctors can prescribe Ivermectin to treat COVID-19.
They can do that now because Fauci:
Lied about ivermectin
Lied vaccines reduce spread
Lied on gain of function funding n knowledge to China WIV killer lab

Many of you empty headed liberals took us down on claims bout ivermectin. You called it a horse paste, not effective. In other words, you regurgitated leftie crap.


I finally get my reprieve after posting so much about ivermectin here. We were right all long, many chose to believe evil Fauci and his media.

I expect class action lawsuits. Doctors were fired, others called witchdoctors because they prescribed Ivermectin or HCL.
You believed the lying media, Some liberals here lack brains to think.

I'll not have my victory lap yet. Tht will come when Joe Brandon election is confirmed as stolen as
I have insisted.
I'm always proven right in the end.p
I take this opportunity to shame some fools here.

Fact Check:
1.) The FDA has not recommended taking Ivermectin
2.) The image in this post is a purposefully out of context quote from a lawsuit against the FDA. As you can tell Basilco does not post the link to the quote.

budaatum:
His Georgia jail can always be 'mansion arrest', with guards and other prison conditions imposed, though I wouldn't be surprised if Georgia's governor releases him to avoid magas enshrining the place.

Yeah, I thought he may get "mansion arrest" or arrest in part of his mansion, but read a good article where someone made the point that some jails have specific housing to protect high value detainees like him. So it shouldn't be a problem that he has secret service detail. But not sure who will be detaining him, maybe depends on who gets the first indictment (GA vs. Feds). And Trump can't be pardoned or released by the Governor or anyone in GA until at least 5 years after serving his sentence.

budaatum:
Convictions are enough for me, as magas will see his incarceration as they see the crucifixion of Christ.

I don't think it's the conviction that scares people. It's the jail time. Look at all the people that were convicted and Trump pardoned. They are still doing their grift. There's also been a lot of good discussions about the effect of Nixon's pardon leading to Presidents abusing the office without the fear of consequences. Reagan Iran/Contra, Bush Torture and Iraq War for example.

budaatum:
That's why Biden must pardon any jail term he gets, though not pardon him for his crime. There's a process and a name for such 'pardons' but it evades my mind at the mo.

I understand where you are coming from. But Biden shouldn't pardon him. And if he gets indicted and convicted in Georgia, he can't anyhow. (Georgia's charges are serious; breaking into voting machines etc.). Trump has set up a lawlessness, where people do things and break the law with an expectation that the Justice Department is too weak to come after them. I think Obama started that with the GOP and not going after Dick Cheney and the 2nd Bush admin for all he did for getting us into war in Iraq. It's just festered. It's going to be good for future generations to see political actors in jail and in jail because their partners and friends flipped on them. Will set up an appropriate amount of paranoia when people attempt to do what Trump and co. have.

MentalCase98:
Supposedly on a flight and every time I check you are last seen 2 minutes ago 😅😅

Nothing else going on in that plane? Nobody to talk to? Books to read? Movies to watch? Work to catch up on? ONLY nairaland right?

Unlimited in flight wifi is nice. Lol. Words from someone who's never been on a long haul flight. Nobody to talk to? Lol. I'm in a flying tin can passing the time. Yet you.. are here, post after post at 1:00 AM Naija time. Tell me which one of us 2 has issues.

MentalCase98:
You’re nothing but a small man with severe mental Illness if you’re thousands of feet in the air currently and still getting bullied by strangers on some random blog.

You think you are bulllying me? Lol. Why am I the one here laughing? lol

MentalCase98:
Shut up fool. Inflight movie my foot. You’re probably on your first generation laptop in your dusty Enugu compound with 56 nairaland tabs open investigating different usernames and researching random people on the internet that you think are them 😅😅

No matter how much you bloviate it will NEVER make sense how a man as successful and busy as you claim to be has so much time to fight all day with strangers on nairaland and gets so triggered by them he starts composing excel sheets 😅😅😅

It will never make sense brov. We don’t believe you.

So, you are basically saying, you(Femi, Syfoxx) ain't shit, because if you were you wouldn't spend all the time you do here (all the usernames and hours and hours). Did I get that right?