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DeepSight:
In both history and the modern world, dictators generally visit torture on their people. The benevolent dictator is the exception rather than the rule - and is as rare as the unicorn. Another point is that aside from the development of physical infrastructure, humans have a huge non-physical aspect to their existence and well being. The psychology of freedom, and the liberty of expression are cardinal to the inner development of a people.

I absolutely agree when you say that absolute power corrupts absolutely. This is something Wirinet needs to acknowledge. The necessity of checks and balances in any system cannot be over emphasized. Just imagine what happens when, as has happened many times, the dictator you are saddled with is a lunatic. This is not rare or an exception - because even normal people tend to gradually lose it when given absolute powers. Absolute rulers have a terrible record in the world. Genghis Khan, Tiberius, Commodus, Caligula, Napoleon, Henry VIII, Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin, Robespierre, Hitler, Mobutu, Idi Amin, Abacha, Sadam Hussein, too many to mention.

Yup.
The problem is the psychology of freedom tends to move down the totem pole when people are struggling. I think when people are struggling they tend to look to efficient leadership in hopes it gets them out of their situation quickly. Democracy does move slower in comparison to autocracies. Hence the love of Trump be certain people.

IjeBos:
Femi, I've known it was you a long time ago.
You have an obsession with me; your first post as Timesup2345 was about me. You have an obsession with 1stgenAmerican. You have an obsession with this thread. You have an affinity to Basilico and Benalvino3 uncommon for someone new to this thread.
You are obsessed, mentally ill and incapable of helping yourself. Maybe that'll be a good defense for you one day. In the process you have exposed yourself as a wannabe terrorist of the US and Americans. Sit with that for a f*xin'g second.
I told you a while ago you are stupid and self destructive. You double down and triple down on it daily.
Unfortunately for you I have almost a photographic memory.
Here are two similar posts, one of you as SlyFoxx and the other as MentalCase98. Look at these points of similarity: what you are posting about, the wording of the posts, the phrases you use "smart man", "never been to America" etc., things you are referencing (never been to America) and what you CAPTALIZE. Tell me what the probability is that 2 people in the world would make a post with all those exact points of similarity.

I don't even think I did his posts justice and definitely understated how nutty they really are. Not only do the posts have points of similarity they both follow the same diagrammable structure. Imagine that, three months later and this guy's twisted mind writes the almost identical post with the same keywords and the same structure. He properly mutters these phrases over and over again daily. Holy Madness.

The Basic Structure:

{Someone [Y'all, Basilico]}, listen to this smart man and Verifiable Harvard Grad {Some insult at me ["Loudmouth Enugu boy", "Hides behind Faceless Moniker"]} unlike IjeBos who thinks because someone {Doesn't do something liberally ["doesn't support Democrats", "doesn't subscribe to sick radical views"]} has never been to America .

It's a Slyfoxx Mad Libs (for those who did them as a child) for his deranged mind. I guess he does like formulaic prose.

DeepSight:
It is natural that governments of the earlier part of a nation's existence would put in the most key and fundamental infrastructural framework. That is a function of a given period, not a function of the nature of the government. Unless you wish to assert that if there was never military intervention we would never have built those basic infrastructural frameworks.



This is disputable, there have been democratic realms such as ancient Greece and the Unted States which have catapulted humanity's progress in ways no other societies have. I hear you on the Electoral College in America, but that anomaly is not sufficient to claim that it is a dictatorship.



It will take time. Rome was not built in a day. Europe has been through centuries of horror to arrive at where it is today. Do not expect any less here. There is no miracle anywhere. We have to go through the time and learn the lessons and build the institutions. That is normal and natural.



While I agree with these, it still would be stretching things to call either a dictatorship of one man. They simply are not.

At the end of the day the real question you will have to grapple with is if you would prefer that the Military come back in Nigeria and we just forget about democracy permanently.

Good discussion. wirinet I think I may lean toward Deepsight with his argument. I don't think Nigeria is advanced developmentally as well as it should be and some of that development was a natural course of any country growing. In fact even Lagos lags behind other similarly situated cities with a lot of foreign investment. And that advancement didn't stretch too far outside the island area, the last time I was there.

A military government requires benevolence from that ruler which is hard because I believe absolute power corrupts absolutely. Even in the US we are struggling with corruption with nonelected officials who have their position for life (the Supreme Court). Some of them are arguing that they are immune from checks and balances and that asking for equally applied ethics rules are Democrats trying to get the Conservative Justices... huh Imagine non-civilian military rulers.

Yeah, some "dictators" get things done quickly (China, Suadi Arabia). But there are hosts that are parasites on their countries (North Korea). I think it boils down to who the leader is and their vision.

MentalCase98:
No be only Femi. Na Temi 😂😂

Confused fool. Carry your Nairaland evidence go give FBI make them come find me for where I dey na. Bastard child 😂

You think you can threaten somebody? You have no idea who the fvck you are dealing with. Jobless fool. None of your 20 girlfriends is seeing you tonight? Na nairaland be your date 😂😂

Actually I know exactly who are you Femi. We've been over this. That's why you thought creating a new username to stalk me would be easier. But you being the idiot you are instead outed yourself as Timesup234, a f*cking wannabe terrorist. Just typing those words sounds insane.

MentalCase98:
Wait, but your friend and fellow American moronn 1stGenAmerican has always insisted THIS guy is Timesup234.

So is this the ‘Femi’ guy you are referencing? And same guy is also Slyfoxx and Timesup2345? Which is it bro?

You see why we call you and girl a bunch of confused clowns? 😂

Mr Investigator. You no even sabi work 😂😂

Yup. Clearly doesn't sound like you've been keeping up with who 1stGenAmerican thinks Timesup234 is. Just randomly decided to go to her posts and pull up a post from 3 months ago. Just very randomly. That was sarcasm.

MentalCase98:
Bahahahha. I am Every username in this thread now. 😂😂

Good luck with that. Mr Investigator. Your level of joblessness is staggering.

I think you have bigger problems than me Femi. I think saying you want to all Americans to die and that you want kill Americans in Cuba is kind of a big deal. Sit with that.

Obrigardo:
What is it with obsessive compulsive disorder disease? I know that is one killer of a mental illness.

This sewer rat needs to go.

I think there's more going on in his head. He may be clinically insane. He's also Timesup234. Read what he posts under that moniker. Things like he wants to bomb Nigerian universities because he hates education.

MentalCase98:
POV: IjeBos everyday trying to figure out who is behind every conservative Nairaland monicker.

Femi, I've known it was you a long time ago.
You have an obsession with me; your first post as Timesup2345 was about me. You have an obsession with 1stgenAmerican. You have an obsession with this thread. You have an affinity to Basilico and Benalvino3 uncommon for someone new to this thread.
You are obsessed, mentally ill and incapable of helping yourself. Maybe that'll be a good defense for you one day. In the process you have exposed yourself as a wannabe terrorist of the US and Americans. Sit with that for a f*xin'g second.
I told you a while ago you are stupid and self destructive. You double down and triple down on it daily.
Unfortunately for you I have almost a photographic memory.
Here are two similar posts, one of you as SlyFoxx and the other as MentalCase98. Look at these points of similarity: what you are posting about, the wording of the posts, the phrases you use "smart man", "never been to America" etc., things you are referencing (never been to America) and what you CAPTALIZE. Tell me what the probability is that 2 people in the world would make a post with all those exact points of similarity.

basilico:
Freedom to express yourself is a guarantee.You don't want them, unfortunately Sein has not provided a platform where you can block OPs and not see what you post. A feature WordPress allows, Sein has his own homegrown website.
Deal with it. Ship up or ship out.
I actually enjoying deliberating with some people, builds up on how I advice my 3 girls advice , they are about to face the world on their own Yahoo boys like you will be on my scope.

So, I can walk into your house, sit on your couch and start saying whatever I want and when you tell me to leave, I can just tell you, "No, I have freedom to express myself" and you have to let me stay and speak?

You should try deliberating with yourself first or "think" as we call it. You wouldn't write should breathtakingly stupid stuff.

And don't mention me in the same sentence with your daughters again. You won't like what I have to say.

basilico:
Report him and have him banned. 'elites' know everything and so Ben should be banned

So it is "elitism" to believe everyone should be treated equally and follow the rules?
Why should Ben and someone like Slyfoxx be treated differently than every other poster here who follows the rules?
He broke the rules here, got banned and just created a new username to continue breaking the rules.
I understand because he is incapable of controlling himself he may seem the victim. But he is not a victim.

But thanks for the clarification of why the Republican party is in the shambles it is and supports Trump. Clearly, you feel rules don't apply to you. Tell me how well that is working out for Nigeria.

basilico:
An earlier post I made about Trump objections to the rigged elections . Video of Dems objecting the electors and another video of the Jan6 pipe bomb planter .
Whom the most efficient investigating agency in the world has never arrested.

Fact Check:
This user has not read the indictment.
The First Amendment argument is a canard. The indictment is not charging Trump with only his speech (merely claiming he lost the election), but the actions he took afterward like creating false electors to try to steal peoples votes.

It's like Tony Soprano ordering someone to kill someone. That person does. Then Tony Soprano saying his order to kill the person was 1st Amendment protected speech.

bemeruca:
You must be having a very productive day figuring out stuff. You are good at what you do. A full time nairaland addict.

These are the username and time spent for the known usernames of yours.
On one of your usernames (benalvino) you have spend more time on here than I have on my 1 and ONLY account.
People in glass houses definitely shouldn't be throwing stones.

Ekemeze:
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So why masturbate all over nairaland celebrating when he's definitely not going to jail for any ? . Lol idiot

You may even die from mass shooting before Trump is jailed 😂😂😂, better watch your back you hate filled piece of shit 🤡🤡🤡

It's ok to be a conservative you don't have to pretend.
He may be passionate about Trump, but he's not wrong. Trump will be in History one of the most malignant forces in US History. (save this post and in 10 years you'll see I was right) He tried a coup because he lost an election. He is a singularly destructive force in the US and around a world because he and his Republican party have highlighted the shortcomings of Democracy. A feat that has led to the rise of authoritarianism around the world even in Israel. What he is being charged with is a fraction of his illegality. He not only belongs in Prison, he belongs under the cell. You may hear different in the conservative forum you read. But no reasonable person believes otherwise. Take the contrapositive of that statement.

bemeruca:
I will do that as long as you don't post nonsense for 30 days.

I figured you couldn't. You'd probably brake out in Cold sweats on day 2.
Makes sense with your obsessive compulsive need to get my attention.
I guess that's what happens when the mentally unstable idolizes someone.

Trump still doesn't seme to understand accountability.

wirinet:
I understand your surprise that people in Africa are beginning to question this democrazy bestowed upon us by the West. Truth be told military has its benefits even though it has numerous disadvantages. I have lived under both and I can tell you that in terms of national cohesion and unity, the military is way better than civilians. I schooled in Sokoto under military rule, and I can tell you it was a wonderful experience. No sharia or any such nonsense. The military would would never have allowed such. There had been many Christian administrators/governors in the core North, and no one raises an eye brow. There had been Igbo governors in Lagos, and it was not an issue at all. But under civilian administration a person of igbo mother but Yoruba father is not considered indigene enough to be governor.
Civilian administrations in Africa tend to use ethnic, religious and tribal fault lines as a political strategy and so tend to threaten to tear the country apart. Militancy, Boko Haram, Fulani herdsmen, Biafra, oduduwa, etc all tend to come up under civilian administrations. Military governments tend to nip such insurgency in the bud before it even takes root. Remember General Sisi took over in Egypt to stop islamisation of Egypt by Morsi.

Another positives about military administration is that they tend to be more effective in building infrastructures. If you compare infrastructures built by military to those built by civilians, you will agree that military actually build infrastructures - roads, bridges, airports, etc., better, faster and more cost effective. Compare the Lagos International Airport built by Obasanjo/Murtala and Abuja Airport built by subsequent civilian administrations since 1999. They are world apart. The military built 4 refineries, the civilians have not been able to build one. Same for major express roads and bridges.

Makes sense. But is that any different than a dictatorship? I can see how one person rule can be more efficient than democracies (look at China). One of the problems I can think of is minority rights or rights of the people who's not part of the Leader's party/regligion/etc.

bemeruca:
Russia is behind all your problems in life

Another nonsensical post. I see you haven't gotten over you obsessive compulsive need just to talk about/to me. Try a 30 day fast of not mentioning/replying to me. See if you can get through it.

Ekemeze:
I just copied that from r/conservative though😂😂😂.

Trump would be killed just like JF kennedy if all of these happened in the 1900s

Anyways I've given up already, I'm 💯 sure at this point he's never going to jail.

West should focus on their corruption and leave Africa alone

I know what your intent was.. Decide to play you a little bit.
Yes and Africa should open their eyes, elect better leaders and not be used as chess pieces.

basilico:
Added that as a detour
Ijeboss would never miss it.
He wants everyone not holding onto his warped ideas to be banned.

Roughly 5 hours.
What is roughly 5 hours you ask?
When I logged in a couple of hours ago, I made a note when you were last online. I wanted to see how long it would take for you to realized you fuxed up and come up with an excuse for what you obviously slipped up and didn't intend to write.
So, it took 5 hours for you to see my post and then to come up with that weak obfuscation. Do better.

MentalCase98:
Lmao. Keep fooling yourself you hear? That one na between you and your delusions of who you think I am 😂😂

All I know is that you are a fake poser pretending to be a successful Harvard graduate when in reality you are a jobless gay prostitute hoping from passenger seat to passenger seat of different mens cars taking pictures like a little bitch while spending half your day bloviating on nairaland like a lunatic hahaha.

Femi, of course I really don't know who you are, at this point do you?
You are the guy who both graduated from the finest schools in the UK and the US, but at the same time didn't finish school, in fact wants to bomb all schools in Nigeria (your words).
The same guy who lived in the US and left, yet at the same time has never been to the US.
The same guy who's family Tinubu had to beg to run for office yet who doesn't have 1k in his bank account.
The same guy who wants to be a terrorist, wants everyone in the US dead but spends his life on the American Politics thread supporting Trump.
What I do know about you is that you are f*king crazy. Fruity loops, padded cell, throw away the key crazy.

Keep stalking me. Seems that's what you live for.

Ekemeze:
2016 Hillary Will Get Trump!

2017 Tax Returns

2017 Comey

2018 Mueller

2019 Stormy

2019 Avenatti

2020 Impeachment 1

2021 Tish James

2021 Impeachment 2

2021 Garland

2022 Jan 6 Trial

2022 Taxes Again

2023 Stormy Again

2023 Alvin Bragg

2023 EJ Carroll

2023 Jack Smith Will Get Trump!

🤡🌎

My point exactly. Look all that criminality. Look at all the criminality he got away with because he controlled the DOJ and Republicans sold their souls to him and refused to impeach him for obvious impeachable "high crimes". Good thing the stuff he is indicted for later in that list, actual citizens on a Jury will decide based on facts and law and not on propaganda. Good list.

I get why many in Africa might want to move away from the West, but moving away from the rule of law? Seems like cutting your nose of to spite your face.

BraniacX:
the Russian propaganda machine is a well oiled endeavour here in West Africa, they have successfully shaped opinions of many here that they misinterpreted Russian talking points for their own, trick is to keep yourself well informed and formulate Nigeriocentric solutions to heated debated topics and contrast it with those claiming to be Afrocentric but always identify Russia as the solution not part of the problem

My time on this forum has been enlightening to say the least. When I'm in Nigeria, I have to admit I'm cocooned around a certain type of people with more Western ties, so I don't get some of this perspective. But You are right. Russia is doing an amazing job at propagandizing in Nigeria and Africa. And parts of the continent are struggling so much that they are now looking for alternatives. I've heard people even saying that military dictatorship is better than democracy. I understand the West may not be the full answer. But I am discouraged to hear people prefer being ruled than ruling themselves. I'm disappointed at what is going on in Africa. I pray Nigeria doesn't go in that direction.

MentalCase98:
No be only Slyfox. You no like Slycow 😂😂

You will keep tying yourslef in knots trying to investigate who is who across this whole forum.

Jobless fvck 😂😂

So Slyfoxx = MentalCase98 = Timesup2345 = Timesup234 = (All Timesup234's other numerous usernames)

I can't even wrap my mind around the level of crazy it must take maintain all those usernames and the level of stupidity it must take to threaten terrorism in the US and to US citizens. Mind BLOWN.

Slyfoxx, I always told you were a stupid f*ck. But Holy Sh*t are you a stupid f*ck.

basilico:
Sly.

Thanks for confirming that MentalCase98 is indeed Slyfoxx. I assumed as much. If MentalCase98 = Timesup2345, question becomes has Skyfoxx always been Timesup234?

And here is part of the the transcript of Republicans Super Duper Explosive witness who will take down Joe Biden.

bemeruca:
Before I hit the highway for work... Ijebos has posted 4times on naira land. That is what he meant when he says he is more productive than me. 🤣

Addicted notice-me seeking status on naira land by posting peoples property from the passengers seat.

And you wrote 3.. all about ME.
Not about US politics. Just making up Lies About ME
It's the kind of stuff a wounded ex lover does. All day, all Night making up lies and posting it to the persons social media.
Are you not tired nor embarrassed that you dedicate that much of your life to ME?

I feel pity that at your age this is what brings you enjoyment. You are a broken person. Seek help. Find Jesus.

wirinet:
He is recycling debunked "rigged election" lies from two years ago. This particular video had been dealt with by the Jan 6 committee. Those women came to testify on how that edited video and lies upended their lives, so much so they had to relocate from their homes.

This video had been thoroughly investigated and debunked two years ago, but trust Basilico, he keeps recycling the same conspiracy theories over and over again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq1QvLdznyo

He'll post it, get called out on it. Then in a couple of weeks post it again. Rinse, repeat. That's what makes me think he's a paid troll. At this point he knows it's a lie and so repeatedly posting it has to be purposeful .

And I hate even theorizing he is a paid troll. But with how devoted Russia is in driving a rift between Africa and the West, it wouldn't totally be out of the realm of possibility.

This indictment is a big deal. Probably one of the most important in History. It is necessary for the rule of law and Democracy. Trump tried to overturn the will of the voters with a soft coup but a coup nonetheless. I wish they would televise the trial.
When I was younger I used to get tickets to Chris Mathew's presidential candidate forums at the KSG to watch the Presidential candidates. And I would sneak into Lawrence Tribe's Constitutional Law class with my ex when she was at HLS (the law school). I'm a Political Geek. And this is a Political Geek's Superbowl.

basilico:
Jackboot lies plainly .
He says that Rudy Giuliani agent misled a hearing that ballot boxes were pulled from under the table and counted. Part of his evidence.
This video shows Georgia election thieves doing exactly that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-7E-71Av0k

Fact Check.
This has been repeatedly debunked. Trump and Giuliani were told numerous times the video was selectively edited and does not show what they claim. The indictment dedicates a whole section into the attempted Trump fraud in Georgia including this video.
One Trump Senior Campaign Advisor said of this claim "but it's tough to own any of this when it's all just conspiracy shit beamed down from the mothership."

Relevant section of the Indictment below.
Indictment PDF: https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/trump-jan-6-indictment-2020-election/1f1c76972b25c802/full.pdf

BraniacX:
this buffoonery again! Can you just stay away from intelligent convos without interjecting your stupidity into it? Once in a while we want the thread to serve the purpose for which it was created! Can your coocoo mentation and disconnect your brain from your digits, don't type or post! We don't need to reaffirm how inherently stup|d it beggars belief you are for the umpteenth time

Watching all the instability in Africa, I'm just realizing how deep Russia's propaganda efforts have gone. I wouldn't be surprised if Basilico is a paid Russian poster whose purpose is to post Anti-Democratic (American) mis/dis information. That's the reason he sits in the US thread. Explains why he keeps repeating the same debunked posts. That or he is deeply deeply mentally ill.

BraniacX:
is that your favourite new game with mental case asides sharing half a vagina? We all know republicans are closet lovers of the things they condemn publicly 🤷🏾

Yeah, he's reached a new level of weirdness with this. I assume if you removed all his posts referencing homosexuality he'd have probably 2 post left.

Here is the PDF of the indictment annotated by the NY times. Enjoy.
Gift link
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/08/01/us/politics/trump-jan-6-indictment-2020-election-annotated.html?unlocked_article_code=Uk39IJIQ66_1Q92w5a3B9hVo39TJn8Yjxv18kNvcdqZwnRZGSs27xwqJqwKNfTDLyMOHzBce855oC6hVWND-F0115y3n92WUBswHfNAT0Ydq2O106Uj_5K_yua2wpDacSVn6a4o8jQENdRfrD6ZVT8FQ2_B7KzhDPZcQqmPD5cQYlzIe3FWprJCgo_tPwDnmDEEF8fkVTaUJ5m8KH1w_e-dcZlrGDLlfXlWdd2Uocik1odasOxDJCdr_n82sBFkAzH8F0NBvWOFwFSG2IjuMcSgLGTaWqijHgX934bMS-V0D31svLpHHCr8Aan-BgAPLZZgJsVAQ-i680g3XXBzoUu6OWhazUT5BdG60NwsY4G5eNEGm7_E8mCzcNbveVfgdc8fXcMUdCvspCFwn&smid=url-share