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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 4:28pm On Dec 27, 2022
Emoc:
Your gay ass remains ruined.
USELESS immigrant. tongue


How is SCAMerica today?
U feel the all round collapse, don't you?
The last few pages of this thread.. both disturbing and depressing. Thought the holidays would at least have tempered the depravity. Guess not. I find the weakest of men(emotionally) are the most sexist.

It's also odd when I hear people who actively live in Nigeria (probably their village), talk about the collapse of the USA. It's a total lack of self-awareness. The US could collapse 50% and still have better living conditions than the majority of Nigeria for the majority of Nigerians. Honestly your time is better spent focusing your energy on helping the country you and your family live in. I'm saying this as someone who loves Nigeria.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 4:22pm On Dec 27, 2022
Happy Holidays All!
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 7:20pm On Dec 22, 2022
feedthenation:

---Huge revelation---Hannity & others used their shows to encourage 'MAGA guest speakers' to promote the big lie about the alledged stolen election fraud---nearly bringing the U.S. to the brink of civil war---
Who would have thunk? lol?
As I keep saying, the Republican party is a fraud meant to appeal to and grift from the uneducated and gullible. No rational Republican leader really believes the nonsense they peddle to their followers, But a lot on this board swear to it.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 7:34pm On Dec 21, 2022
basilico:
I am getting that info from Twitter files. Released by elon Musk. That emptywheel smells like a crackpot liberal. Maybe its an FBI disinfo account
Have you read the whole thing?
Do you know how the FBI generally deals with Companies when it comes to National Security issues?
Do you know how the FBI generally repays Companies when they ask them questions?
Do you know if how the FBI dealt with Twitter differs from how they deal with other similar companies?
Do you know what the law requires when the FBI asks companies questions?

The answer to all those questions would be a NO. And because you have little understanding into any of this, how does reading portions of the twitter files substantially inform you? The goal is to incite, because without necessary qualifications and information that's all it will do.
Ex. OMG the FBI paid twitter money. Yeah, but that's general practice with any company they ask information of because it is legally required. Now, how do I know, because I wanted to understand it, so I googled it and that lady who I told you to check actually flagged it as well.

Read the info on this site. You don't have to believe him. He links the law. If you don't trust that, you can go find the law yourself and read it.
No, The FBI Is NOT ‘Paying Twitter To Censor’
https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/20/no-the-fbi-is-not-paying-twitter-to-censor/

As with pretty much every one of these misleading statements regarding the very Twitter that he runs, where people (I guess maybe just former people) could explain to him why he’s wrong, it takes way more time and details to explain why he’s wrong than for him to push out these misleading lines that will now be taken as fact.

And I linked the law as an attachment:

Honestly, it's only fair if you want to discuss this stuff on this forum, that you do you your own homework and come here somewhat informed. And to atomically dismiss anything as misinformation without actually reading it yourself honestly doesn't say good things about your intellectual curiosity.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 7:10pm On Dec 21, 2022
basilico:
Twitter was a free speech platform.. Every view palatable view was allowed. Then the left took it over and started banning users at the behest of politicians and FBI.
The left took over Twitter? Huh? Twitter was founded in San Francisco, CA. That should give you an idea of it's origin. But, I can't go though your post correcting it. It's a mishmash of pseudo-facts, misinformation, and weird inferences. I think wherever you are getting your info is purposefully misleading you. Try some new sources. Here is one whose legal and national security analysis I find useful and is generally spot on. https://twitter.com/emptywheel You don't have to trust her analysis, but she always links the primary sources/documents when she can. At the minimum it's a good counter to whatever info you are getting. And If you confident in what you believe, a differing perspective shouldn't threaten you.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 2:38pm On Dec 21, 2022
basilico:
Ill check this .. If Im wrong Ill admit.


Yes I am wrong..
I'll give credit for that.

basilico:
What do you think about this.? Twitter had a lot of ex FBI including the General counsel.
Between 2018 and 2022 96% of donations from Twitter employees went to the Democrats.
1.) None of that bothers me. Twitter was started by liberals, as I said before they believe in speech and ideas and ways to have those ideas reach everyone. Those employees understood the vision of Twitter. And because it was successful, one can argue their vision was good and well executed. That being said Twitter even when it was Publicly traded was still a for profit company and the board had a fiduciary responsibility to it's shareholders and that means a responsibility to keep it's advertisers happy. If advertisers would not advertise on a site that allowed certain things like antisemitism and racism, they would filter it out. Even then, they had a deliberative process in place to deal with it. Trump, like all things he did, pushed the boundaries, stress tested the system and put the owners in an impossible situations. But, I think they did the best they could weighing all potential harms. And in the US Freedom of Speech isn't absolute in the realm of Government protected rights let alone Private Rights.

2.) All this happened during the Trump Presidency. And you are talking about a very Conservative FBI, let by a Republican Trump appointed Director. I'm not sure the argument. The conservative FBI wanted to go after conservative Trump so that liberals could win? If the FBI is that mendacious, wouldn't they have gone after Liberals to put conservatives in power all those years during the Obama administration. At some point facts have to win out.

3.) Compare the Twitter of pre-Musk to it now. No matter how many employees donated to Dems (Not saying that 95% number is accurate), how many times did Twitter leadership come out and OPENLY support Democrats? Or trash Republican Leaders? Or tell Twitter members how to vote? You seem to be looking hard and reading tea leaves for evidence of partisanship under Dorsey while ignoring the overt Partisanship with Musk.

4.) I assure you there are more ex FBI agents working in companies that favor Republicans than vice versa. And all the rest of the "twitter files" stuff seems to be standard fare amongst the FBI and US companies. Read some counter analysis/opinions on the twitter files from agents/lawyers who've worked at the FBI.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 1:31pm On Dec 21, 2022
basilico:
Why do you have to lie. Mitch did not end the filibuster Harry Reid did.

Tp be more correct the filibuster is still exists. Harry Reid paved the way for Supreme court nominations via Simple majority
Harry Reid and the Filibuster: How One Facet of the Late Senator's Legacy Remains More Relevant Than Ever
Reid, who died Tuesday at 82, used the “nuclear option” as Majority Leader and later wrote about his wish to abolish the filibuster in all its forms
You are tiresome. You really googled it and picked the part that you thought would help your argument without actually fully reading or understanding it.

Harry Reid ended the Filibuster jut for non-Supreme Court justices because Republicans had weaponized it.
Mitch McConnel then ended it for Supreme Court justices.

You should have already learned not to argue with me.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 1:16pm On Dec 21, 2022
basilico:
Harry Reid removed the 60 senate votes requirement to approve a Supreme Court Judge. What happened in the end? Roe vs Wade was shelved smiley smiley smiley
Factually wrong. Mitch McConnel ended the Filibuster for Supreme Court Judges through the Nuclear options when Trump was elected after not allowing a vote on Obama's Supreme Court pick Merrick Garland.

Google is your friend.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 5:34am On Dec 21, 2022
And worse. (My highlighting)

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 5:24am On Dec 21, 2022
Wow. And the only reason the IRS started the audits is because Congress requested Trump's taxes and information about the audits of the taxes. (My highlighting)
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/12/20/us/trump-taxes-news?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20221220&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=cta&regi_id=75289398&segment_id=120430&user_id=41c9d58298cfae5beaf0adde0a0b0423

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 5:07am On Dec 21, 2022
Here was the post. The thing with Trump, it's always turns out to be worse than you imagined. Expect more shoes to drop.
IjeBos:
The question isn't the access. The question is if the President's audits were done properly. Given the fraud that has been found in his NY taxes, Congress has the right to see his taxes to ascertain whether the IRS has been properly auditing presidents taxes and create new laws if not.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 4:00am On Dec 21, 2022
Obrigardo:
hey basilico loco, Criminal trump was lying about his tax audit.
I remember you were a staunch defender of his lies about this audit back then
Guess you are quite shocked now that we will get to see 6 years of his returns.
I'll find my post later. But I mentioned this was one of the legislative purposes that the Congress was seeking his taxes... to see if in fact he was being audited like he was supposed to.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 3:10pm On Dec 20, 2022
Introductory Material from the Jan 6 committee final report.
https://www.npr.org/2022/12/19/1143650032/read-an-executive-summary-of-the-jan-6-committees-final-report

*Haven't read it yet
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 3:46am On Dec 20, 2022
benalvino3:
The Dems just want to put pressure on the DOJ to finish what they started. they will be like they did their part and the DOJ is not doing their work. The recommendations they are pushing toward the DOJ are mainly symbolic as they carry little or no legal weight. The DOJ is under no obligation to act upon the committee’s recommendations.
I think it is more than symbolic. But yeah, the DIJ can choose to or not to do anything, separation of powers and all. But, that being said, the DOJ has to do something, maybe not indict Trump, but they have to make it clear that this type of stuff can't happen again. Put the fear in people.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 3:38am On Dec 20, 2022
PDPGuy:
TBH, he would have been better off endorsing DeSanctis
Could of had a quid pro quo. I endorse you, you pardon me. The only problem is the pardons don't stop State Level prosecutions.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 3:34am On Dec 20, 2022
Tesla Buyers Are Bailing Because of Elon Musk, the 'Worst Troll'
Tesla salespeople say "a lot" of customers canceling orders blame Musk's Twitter behavior.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/tesla-buyers-are-bailing-because-of-elon-musk-the-worst-troll/

https://www.cnet.com/tech/tesla-buyers-are-bailing-because-of-elon-musk-the-worst-troll/

Same here. Was looking at a Tesla for early 2023, but can't give my money to someone like him. Going to test drive other electric/hybrids out there. Problem for Tesla, there's some good competition.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m):
Obrigardo:
Just like the feds unravelled theranos and FTX, in time, I think and believe they will pick elon apart and expose a grift he was or will be involved in.

I would have ran an intervention for elon if he was my personal friend because something's not right in there, and more poignant when you know the full story of this petulant apartheid big baby.
Unfortunately, the Feds are scared to go after wealthy individuals esp. Republican ones. Look at Trump and how far he's gotten.
But you're right about the intervention. I actually think one did happen and this poll is a pretext for that. He loses, he leaves, he wins, he shows the people who tried to intervene he is right. Either way he wins. But I may be wrong.

Edit: The Tesla board should have had him removed already. Imagine the CEO of TESLA talking about owning the libs. Does he understand who buys and has supported TESLA. It's those libs in those Blue states who represent a large part of the US economy. In fact it was the subsidies and Green policies by Dem Presidents and Dem Governors that supported TESLA.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 2:47am On Dec 19, 2022
All so normal.
But conspicuous that it comes after his trip to Qatar.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 7:41pm On Dec 18, 2022
SlyFoxxProblem:
Hahaha see this stupid fool. Do you even know what fraud is? What do I stand to gain, monetarily or otherwise, by lying to compete nobodies on a faceless forum that I am in London?
Good question. Tell us all. Why is it that you come on here and lie to complete nobodies in a faceless forum? I have my theories but you should sit back and explore why you do it for yourself.

SlyFoxxProblem:
Haha I don’t believe you were in London or even traveled abroad in the passed 2 years at least.
Hmm.. If there was only a global incident that happened recently to explain why someone would have chosen not to travel as extensively for a 1.5 year period. Hmmm.. I wonder if such a GLOBAL thing occurred. Lol. You are such a tool.


SlyFoxxProblem:
This is my first time back in London in over 2 years.
So, you want us to believe that you are back in London for the 1st time in 2 years and decided to spend one of your weekend nights in London with your Goons, while living your international Big Boi life, talking sh*t to people on NairaLand? And then the next day in the middle of the World Cup while chilling with your friends you haven't seen in 2 years write a term paper from the small screen on your phone? Yeah, that totally makes sense now.. Lol. #StoriesFromAFakeInternationalBigBoi

SlyFoxxProblem:
Lovely. Let me know when your in Naija. All this moth you been making it’s time to back it up like a big boy. Set a location for us to meet. Let’s see if you don’t sleep in a cell that night. Dan iska. Omo ale. Stupid fool.
Ahh, you initially threatened to have me arrested as I got off the plane, now you'll do it if we meet up? I see you're already shifting the goal posts. Lol. #StoriesFromAFakeInternationalBigBoi
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m):
SlyFoxxProblem:
Poor son of a wretched street bum thinks travel to London is a big deal grin grin grin

I have valid UK and EU visas as I have shown here. How much is a ticket to London? At least you have seen my Barclays Bank statement. Is that money not enough to cover it? Hehehehehehehehehe. I am tempted to drop one of my Nigerian account statements to finally shut you up and send you into a coma but I promised myself never to allow myself be pushed into dropping more information by you anonymous scalawags on this forum.

For all I know you are a scammer just phishing for my information to go commit more fraud. You are definitely jobless so it’s not a stretch at all to think you make your living from petty scams like that in addition to your part time geriatric ass wiping gig. Heheheh.

Poor man. I feel bad for you. A woman actually harbored your infestation of a fetus for months and went through Labour pains only to bring forth a complete dunderhead, Trump deranged invalid like you into the world? O ma sè o.
You posted online at 11:30pm about how you were in London, with your goons, spending money, while online on Nairaland. Nothing wrong with being on Nairaland, but lying about what you are doing to perpetrate some fraud.. yeah there is. Same nonsense you were doing when you said you were at some "Big boy" wedding in Abuja while typing away on this Forum. Btw, I was in London in Sept. did I mention it? No.. because to some, it's just life. And your still talking about that "money" in "your" London account (notice the quotations)? Add 2 zeroes and then get back to me.

SlyFoxxProblem:
I’m tempted to find out who you are for the sole purpose of fvcking one of your sisters and even your dirty mother like the dogs they are just to prove my point.
But aren't you tired of the same insults and threats? They aren't even creative and they're getting repetitive. "Rape your mother/sister" (what type of person even thinks that?), "wipe ass"(as if people who take care of others or just hustle in that way aren't to be celebrated). The stuff you write just reveals your adolescence and the depravity of your soul. But continue.


SlyFoxxProblem:
I am also going to lock you up if you ever make the mistake of entering Nigeria again I promise you. You will explain all this mouth you are making to DSS interrogators soon don’t worry. I am already alerting my contacts there that a potential drug peddler may be entering the country sometime after the election as you said. I’m watching you closely on this forum so be careful.
Promise eh? Lol. Just to show your impotence, I'll post a couple of pictures when I'm in Nigeria.

Serious question though. How are you this much of a Loser?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 2:32am On Dec 18, 2022
SlyFoxxProblem:
Hahahaha. Look at this degenerate hybrid product of a worthless pauper and crack addicted slut of a mother. I am a low conversant that you can’t just help engaging with every time because my commentary always hits you hard in your Trump deranged and demented soul.

If nothing else, I have proved that, academically and intellectually, I am not mates with you or any of your fellow TDS suffering comrades on this thread. Your analysis consist of nothing but pure left wing media propaganda and talking points that you consume daily on CNN and MSNBC then come here to regurgitate with so much hate and venom like the mind controlled zombies you are. You are not even worth the effort trying to have a logical conversation with because your mind, body and soul are so consumed by your fanatical hatred for Trump, republicans and anything remotely conservative. You are a radicalized left wing nut job that I honestly believe has terrorist tendencies.

I don’t expect any better from the offspring of low quality human beings like 2 scoundrels who’s unfortunate Union brought a complete invalid like you into this world. A total waste of space, pathetic excuse of a man, the perfect specimen of how NOT to raise a child. Just look at your worthless life and tell me if you a proud of yourself. An abject failure whose sole purpose on this earth is to come on an anonymous forum and cry about men you will never measure up with even if you were given 6 lifetimes.

It’s obvious to anyone who observes you for even 10 minutes that you have absolutely no life, no career, I doubt you even have a lover because what woman in her right mind would want to cohabit with a degenerate incel like you.

Talk about my gambling because you uncovered one post of me sharing betting tips with guys. Yes I gamble. It’s a rich man’s habit. It’s not for paupers that can’t even afford money to feed like you and your useless father. Talk about porn? Lol bro I don’t watch porn. I fvck whorees like your filthy sister for real. Talk about drugshuh Lol show me where I have ever mentioned taking any drugs on Nairaland asides alcohol and a little Mary J. Lol. You must think I am one of your crack fiend mother’s customers or something. Hahahha. Anyone comparing the quality of my posts, opinions and vocabulary to yours can only come to the conclusion that you are the one with a history of drug addiction. What else explains your constant irrational and maniacal ranting and hyperventilating about republicans in this forum all day, everyday? You are a complete waste man and don’t even know it.

Right now I’m in London with my goons. headed to Phuket In a few days. Spending big money that your worthless father will never smell in his pathetic life and you’re here as usual crying about Donald Trump even as we get closer to Christmas. A perfect encapsulation of just how truly worthless your life is. I actually feel bad for you bro. Quote me on a dead thread with your phone number let me arrange some small change to at least feed you and your starving mother this Christmas. It’s the season of giving and believe it or not, I’m a very nice guy.
You're in London, with your "goons" sending messages on Nairaland at 11:30pm on a Sat. night? Does any of that make sense to you? Lol. Hopefully you're just lying about where you are, the alternative? ....

As I said before, you need some more work on this "international big boy" fraud of yours.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 8:13pm On Dec 16, 2022
benalvino3:
Musk is a no-nonsense guy. It's funny how liberals are crying that he banned journalists who doxxed him. Twitter is really fun. No wonder traffic is through the roof and advertisers are going back.

Trump stupid card sold out before one can blink. 45000 gone in no time for $99 a card. That guy can sell a rock for $99.
A business man he is
Both stories are perfect for the cult of personality. Elon's doxing story is especially perfectly tailored for non critical minds. Musk is/was the richest person (outside of putin) in this world. I'm sure he has Top-tier security. What would someone do with his plane details anyhow? (In fact before I head to the airport to pick someone up, I put their flight number in google and can easily find out where it is). Assuming he is the one on the plane, when he gets off, you'd have to first find him and then deal with his private security. There are probably far easier ways to get to him, like just following him from his house or following his kid to/from school, or just going to one of the places where he has announced he will be. It's an utter nonsense story.

Here is Musk entering then almost immediately leaving a journalist's Twitter Spaces chat after getting questions.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1603612770892918784
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 1:48pm On Dec 16, 2022
When a conservative loses Drudge, they're in trouble. That being said Drudge is trying to give him an out with the Ambien talk

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 6:36pm On Dec 15, 2022
wirinet:
Latest Trump stupid stunt. He posted an image of himself as superhero in the mold of superman, but with a T in his costume instead of S.

Maybe he is trying to remind his worshippers of his supernatural powers he has over them.
This isn't the worst part. The major announcement? Trump trading cards for sale. I kid you not. I am embarrassed for him. The con that keeps on conning. The Grifter in Chief.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 6:20pm On Dec 14, 2022
Obrigardo:
Elno is turning to be one big kind of douche, even more thin skin than criminal trump
It's like he really didn't believe all that talk about free speech and was just trying rile up the Trump base. Who would have thunk?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 6:17pm On Dec 14, 2022
adamusuleiman1:
Elon Musk Shocked He Was Booed: 'A First For Me'
Twitter has become almost unusable for me since after the merger. I used to go on there for news or analysis on things. Now it's just full of random adverts and random posts from right wing nutters. He definitely changed the algorithm to make it less predictive of things you'd be interested in. Don't see myself using it much longer if this continues.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 6:14pm On Dec 14, 2022
feedthenation:
---P0rnhub reveals most popular 2022 searches---despite domestic problems, including soaring inflation and political polarization, America was still the country with the highest daily traffic--- https://nypost.com/2022/12/13/pornhub-unveils-most-popular-2022-searches/
Probably more indicative of which countries have more readily available data/internet. That being said, the US is also a very repressed country.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 3:14pm On Dec 14, 2022
Obrigardo:
Has faux news started a new season of Caravans of Migrants attacking the border?
President Biden is having a blast week after week, which means that we might start seeing new caravan stories soon.

Amiright basilico loco? market dry grin
Every election. Do their viewers every wonder what happens to the caravans after the elections? A friend of mine who does charity work in Haiti, believed during the last election there was actually US conservative money that funded the Caravan. She was telling me that she was hearing (while in Haiti) people getting messages telling them the US border was open to them and they could get to the US legally. She wondered who was funding those messages and why. I'm not sure.. but..
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 3:08pm On Dec 14, 2022
benalvino3:
mumu goes to the internet and tries to explain crap that we already know instead of trying to address what my post. your hero judge was not part of the tribunal of judges, how can he conclude that someone lying to that tribunal would not have changed their decision?
the FBI present request under oath that the information is accurate and vetted, so yes, they have to believe the FBI but the FBI lied which is the problem.

How the court works:
https://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/Leahy.pdf
Real question. How do you any of this? Did you take a US Justice class in Nigeria that specifically dealt with FISA courts? Explain to me how you know any of this if you did not go to the internet to look it up? And, how did you know any of this before I explained it to you? You seem to still not even understand how the court works.

benalvino3:
mumu, you are a fool based on the bold.
he gets to see everything, even inside the minds of a deceived judges? i mean 11 judges, he knew all the decisions they would have made? you get sense at all?
he believes is a statement of opinion
the difference is that he was not part of the tribunal, he is a corrupt POS etc.
It was not 11 judges. "The Court" is not what you think it is. "The Court" consists of 11 judges, not all 11 judges rule on every case. One judge is chosen to hear the matter. And a Federal Judge is a Federal Judge. In fact to go deeper, In the US (where I live), Liberal judges are more inclined to side with defendants than the FBI/Police when it comes to individual rights. Conservatives and Conservative judges are more inclined to as you've heard "back the blue", side with law enforcement whether they are police or the FBI, and give them more leeway when it comes to individual cases. The judge saw all the evidence. Period. I've explained to you how.
Lastly, the FISA court was setup so there would be a process that introduced some checks and accountability in a process where the target is unaware he/she is being surveilled and has no way to contest it. But at the end of the day, if the FBI goes to a FISA judge for a FISA warrant, the implication is that there are NATIONAL SECURITY matters at hand. The FISA judge will most likely grant it if the application doesn't look too crazy.

benalvino3:
this does not fit the scenario of what happened at all.
So then, why don't you tell us all what Clinesmith did. And how you think what he did was tantamount to a Coup. I'm clear you don't really know or you wouldn't be contorting yourself in a pretzel like this. You seem so focused on defending your wrongness than challenging it. Not a healthy way to live.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 7:29pm On Dec 13, 2022
benalvino3:
Because he was not the one that was deceived, he is not a body of the FISA court, he cannot make assertions for the Court that was deceived. if he would have changed anything, why did the FISA court said the FBI abused the court?


You are not part of the FISA court, you cannot make assertions based on anything. If it will be approved, why did they alter the and omit key information?

From FISC


Do you see that they were misled? who are you or that partisan judge to say nothing would have changed?



an irrational person cannot be rational. the fact that you said you don't prove negative shows are stupid you are.
It's like explaining Us government to you. You spin like a top.
1.) You don't seem to understand what the FISA court is.
The FISA court just consists of individual Judges who are picked by the chief Justice to rule on FISA applications. Because of the secrecy of the matters before each Judge, the Judges have to trust the things the FBI tells them when seeking applications. There is no adversarial system, no defense council, just the FBI asking the court to allow them to invade our rights. So, lies or omissions in the applications are serious, BECAUSE THE JUDGES HAVE TO TRUST THEM . That is what they were speaking to. But you can prove me wrong, by just posting the part where they say "they wouldn't have approved the application based on the omission". Again, you are inferring things the statement does not say.
How the court works:
https://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/Leahy.pdf

2.)Now Boasberg is a federal judge. He may be appointed to be on the Fisa Court next. Who knows. But when a matter comes before a Federal Judge, he gets to see everything no matter how classified. So, this Judge, who saw everything, then decided that he believes, it wouldn't have changed anything. What is the difference between him and the Judge who initially ruled on it? They both had the same information. None.. just you deciding to call him Partisan because he doesn't believe what you want him to believe.

3.) Example: A kid tells his mom his friend said their teacher says they need $20 for a field trip tomm in school. The mom asks the son if he asked the teacher directly. The son, not wanting to take the time to ask the teacher says yes. The mom gives him the money. The mom later finds out that the son lied about directly asking his teacher. But the Mom also does know for a fact the teacher did say they needed the money.

Does the boy lying about asking the teacher mean that Mom wouldn't have given him the money knowing the teacher said it was needed? That situation is akin to this one. Which you are making like there was some coup on the US. Without the omission, the underlying facts supported the application. PERIOD
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m):
benalvino3:
The Judge is not in the FISA Court, what he corruptly thinks does not matter. If what he is saying is true, then what is the point of Lying to the FISA court?
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/17/politics/fisa-court-slams-fbi-conduct/index.html
What this corrupt DC judge say is in his own head.
And in your own words, please explain to me what the FISA court slamming the FBI has to do with the Boasberg belief that the Clinesmith's conduct wouldn't have changed anything? You know both can be true. The FISA court which relies on the truth in FISA documents can be upset that FBI submitted a non FULLY factual application but that even if the APPLICATION was submitted without the offending part it would have still been approved. See; Adults CAN REASON.

benalvino3:
where is your evidence that Durham did not find anything? do you have dementia? This FBI FISA court lie was Durhams Finding... try and keep up
1.) I don't prove negatives. The 2 Not Guilty Jury Verdicts I've already talked about above would be sufficient for a rational person.
2.) Durham did not find Clinesmith's FISA court "lie". The Justice Department Inspector General did and it was forwarded to Durham. Soo you must clearly have Dementia. Try to prove me wrong.
3.) Now, show me outside of Clinesmith (which Durham himself did not find) what Durham found. Not the nonsense he put in briefs to rile up his base. But convictions he got based on those facts he put in his briefs to rile up his base. I'll help you there was NOTHING .

And if you really want to understand the rather complex issue that is the Carter Page, Clinesmith and the FISA application. Here is a good article. You don't have to agree with his analysis of the facts. But look at the facts alone. This is really a NON ISSUE.
The Trump Administration’s Double Standard of Justice
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/12/kevin-clinesmith-doj-sentencing/617350/

Edit: People constantly lie to you. And you regurgitate those lies. When called out, you double down on those lies and then go back to those people that lie to you for more lies. What would you call someone in a relationship that did that?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by IjeBos(m): 5:21pm On Dec 13, 2022
benalvino3:
They would not have gotten the FISA Warrant if he did not lie. So it changes everything.
Where did you get this from? Point to your source?
Here is my source; a Federal judge who looked at all the evidence.

Boasberg agreed on that point as well, saying he wasn’t convinced that fully disclosing Page’s relationship with the CIA would have led to the surveillance of him being denied or ended.
“It is not at all clear to me the FISA warrant….would not have been signed but for this error,” the judge said.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/29/fbi-lawyer-trump-russia-probe-email-463750

Oh yeah, Boasberg must be a Deep State Asset.

benalvino3:
Mueller does not even know the genesis of what he was investigating, what fusion GPS is.
Let's assume you are 100% right in this in this nonsense. What was Durham's(who had all the same power Mueller did) reason for not finding anything? Oh yeah, he must be a "Deep State" Asset as well. Or all the Judges he faced were "Deep State" assets as well. Maybe the "Deep State" rigged the jury process. Or maybe the "Deep State" just paid off everyone involved.

You see how lazy your logic is. Instead of actually justifying your indefensible position with a coherent argument, you just yell "DEEP STATE". You are in Nigeria talking about "deep state" conspiracies in another country. Mental illness is real. Get yourself checked.

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