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budaatum:
Point is the current 9 people on the Supreme Court (though only 5 I think) has now established that having an abortion is not a fundamental right. But like the constitution framers that initially got the 3/5 compromise wrong, this too can be rectified by we the people at an election, which I have no problem with.

Not all states will abolish abortions, and like in slavery times, one can always migrate to a state that doesn't abolish abortions, and much easier too than migrating from a state that did not abolish slavery. And states that make abortion illegal will eventually suffer from their abolishing action, since those who believe abortion should be a fundamental right will mass migrate to pro-abortionist states, and companies will be reluctant to set up business in those states because their products and shares will be boycotted by the pro-abortionists, and those companies will have a smaller pool from which to hire from which will economically disadvantage those states.

It is a pity that some America states are stepping backwards into Handmaid's Tale territory, but I believe the consequences will make them moderate themselves, just as the "abortion is murder" brigade are gradually becoming 15 weekers.

Agree what the current situation is, but to me it is akin to having states decide if black people should vote. It's ridiculous.

I wasn't sure comparing slavery migration to abortion migration was apt. But the more I thought about it, it is. Just like slavery migration, abortion migration isn't easy if at all possible. A lot of slaves died during slavery and trying to migrate to states that were free, a lot of women will die (and have died) with preventable/treatable pregnancy issues and will die in transit to states that do allow abortion.

But, sometimes I think you talk of race/slavery issues in a very facile way.

budaatum:
Actually, you are the Federal Republic of the United States of America, so the will of the people encompasses what the states will to the federation.

What the Supreme Court decided regarding the abolition of Roe v Wade is that every state should decide for itself, which is not the stance that was taken regarding slavery for obvious reasons.


Those obvious reasons are established by the constitution of the United States of America.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

You can't continue to justify enslaving some unless you decide that "ourselves" excludes some.

We are a Federal Republic and thus there are certain powers abrogated to the federal government and others left to the states. Fundamental rights shouldn't be left to the states or be able to be given or taken away on the whims of 9 people. Before this ruling was Roe v. Wade which did define abortion as a fundamental right under the right to Privacy enshrined in the 14th amendment.

The 3/5 compromise in fact enshrined slavery in the constitution. The obvious difference was the civil war. My point is even the framers got it wrong for ideological reasons as did this supreme court.

budaatum:
But it is not state dependent, but dependent on a majority of we the people in a state, which is what democracy is.

Think death as a sentence for committing murder. We the people in a state can decide that any one who commits murder should be sentenced to death. It's why some states have such laws and many don't. We the people decided, and thankfully, most of us in most states have decided otherwise. And just like most countries don't have death sentence laws do most states not have anti-abortion laws because we the people decided.

It is the fear of we the people that has made the anti-abortion brigade become abortion at 15 weeks. Principles go out the window if it loses them power and seats, as they are showing us.

We are the United States of America. So the will of people would encompass all the people of the USA right not just by state?
But the question is, is bodily rights an inherent civil right which shouldn't be left up to the whims of a majority of people in each individual state but guaranteed to everyone in the country? There was a time when a portion of the country thought slavery should have been a states rights issue as well.

This election will be a good test for the abortion is murder crowd.

basilico:
NYT is a ragtag liberal piece.qanon is well known CIA disinformation .
Thank me later.

Yeah, this is the reason why most of the nonsense you right is always wrong.
Garbage in, Garbage out.
You are so oblivious it's scary.

budaatum:
I so love democracy. Nevadans can now vote to abolish abortions if that is what they want.

Though, I don't think bodily rights should be state dependent, I do find it hilarious that all these "abortion is murder" folk now want some form of pro choice position. Basically they are saying, "we'll accept murder for 15 weeks because we don't want to lose the election". I guess it was never about principle.

The dog that caught the car.
I'm sure all the Conservatives in this thread are pleased. Nevada can now ban Abortion during the 2024 election. (sarcasm).

AngelicBeing:
l will prepare a special Excel sheet for ljebosb and the posters on that thread, I will post all the details of everyone, time spent on nairaland, house address, IP locations, your bank accounts, Range Rover plate number, UK,US , Canada address and zip code of all the posters, bank statements as well etc

Get ready for my blockbuster hacking and forensic investigation that l have at my disposal of all the posters on that thread

Look for Bemeruca/Benalvino3 for the IP address, house addresses, bank accounts, etc etc.. I'm sure he has yours as well.
Why are you mentioning me in this thread?

basilico:
You lack knowledge. Judge doesn't want any juror who reads qanon. He is OK with NYT.
Qanon and NYT are no different. NYT is worse because its supposed to be credible, yet it spews lies from cockcrow to sunset.
These are your jurors sources .
Get this book from Amazon.
cc ijebosb

Stop mentioning me in this nonsense.
To put Qanon and NYT in the same breath proves your illiteracy.
Share your illiteracy with your other illiterate friends.

basilico:
He is getting it right on many matters. They like calling GOP a cult, but they are the ones who demand 100% conformities.

You are celebrating a man who is mad because not all Dems support something, basically a man who wants 100% conformity.
Think about that and ask yourself if your post makes sense.

You should engage your brain before you open your mouth.

basilico:
Nonsense. TLDR. Childish . My dick is bigger than yours contest

I can take it you've never been to the UK. Nor ridden a train in the UK. Hence, the infantile "too long to read".
So, just like your opinions on all things USA. Your opinion on this is worthless as well.
You should really learn to not talk about topics you have 0 idea about. Doesn't it get embarrassing for you?

But, you should spent another couple of hours writing about a country that you have 0 idea about and doesn't know you exist.

Enjoy!

basilico:
Fairy tale😁😁😁. You meet the same train attendant who hated your sight twice in 10 hours
Right out of a sci-fi movie.
On a serious note , this childish incident is the type you hear from high schoolers .

Love these opportunities to make you look like the illiterate you are.

1.) Have you been to the UK?
2.) Have you ridden a train in the UK or anywhere?
3.) If you look at the message that is US time. Add 5 hours and it will give you UK time. The text exchange happened between 10am -12:30 pm. Left my hotel around that time, which is generally checkout.
4.) I woke up, walked her to the train platform near the hotel. We left the hotel probably at 7-8am(based on the text message) as she had an early meeting. I originally took the train to the hotel from the Heathrow.
5.) I go back to my hotel, slept some, got breakfast, showered, packed and checked out. It is now around noon.
6.)The train attendant I assume works at least an 8 hour shift. He was stationed in the station/at the platform, not sure what his duties were. So, most likely would have been on duty between 7 and 12:30pm.

Mr. Inspector Clouseau aka the illiterate detective Basilico. Lol
It's always odd to hear a person from a country plagued with tribalism not be able to comprehend the illogicalness of racist acts. Yes, it sounds like a highschool story, as most actions driven by the hate and emotions of racism tend to sound juvenile.

budaatum:
And one has to 'play' along with the bullies for their bullying to be effective.

It's after all not like we are in some play school ground where they can take my pencil or deprive me of my school dinner.

Well bemeruca has been at it long before I got here. He posted one of his accounts 'benalvino2' had been banned till 2031. I think people deal with trolls/wannabe bullies differently. We can leave it at that.

The truth is after I realized that the night Bemeruca landed in Canada, instead of spending his time enjoying that, he was online lying that he was in the US. In that instance, I really felt sad for him and I realized how broken he was. So, clowning him felt more like making fun of someone who is not well. Plus, he'll forever be known as that liar, who lied about being in the US, who tried to hack people's accounts and who impregnated a 19 year old. I think my works done. No further value for me.

budaatum:
Please do not ever post such things again.

It is not necessary for you to post such personal evidence here as no reasonable person would think you made it up, and the stupid idiots who have admitted their sole reason for being here is to troll would only troll you with it.

Also, have you noticed how the winds have gone out of their sails now we are not paying them the attention they crave? They so hate not being the centre of one's attention.

No concerning personal details in that whatsapp. And I didn't press it much that day, because of selfish reasons, time, just wanted to chill. So, if it helps enlighten the experience. The minimal cost was worth it.

I differ, I think the change is that no one is paying him much attention and his other accomplice has dipped. As I was saying, bullies generally need a group to do so, alone....

budaatum:
The above is the key point. If you knew how it worked, you'd have likely told him where to go.

I've never been to USA, and don't particularly like the culture of the place. It's economically first world over there, but some things are just so backward. I lived and worked in Mexico City for a year and still never bothered. I'm scared someone might talk nonsense to me then shoot me when I talk back, which is not a fear I'd have in UK because no one has the right to carry. You just need to note how no one is trying to take over anyone's womb in UK like some are there to understand how far back USA is going.

If it were up to me, 'God bless America' would become 'God save America', from its self.

Maybe, but I think the shock gets you first and then trying to unravel it.
Anyhow, read through part of the chat of the day, I guess my "convo" with him after she left, left him sufficiently concerned that I wasn't just some bum. As I was taking the train to the airport, he met me on the platform, asked for my card and tried to be nice and strike up a convo.

budaatum:
What! Never ever heard of this before!

I guess you haven't lived here and so don't know how things work (that's a dig ), though your girlfriend should have known if she lived here.

If a platform staff on any train tells anyone here to step off because the train was full, they be asked how they can be on the train if it were full!

Regardless, platform staff don't have any such authority, and the fact he asked why your girlfriend was with you is enough to get him sacked or at least reprimanded, if you had had the time to follow through that is. I can just imagine him saying that to a Jamaican or a Brit Black. He'd likely get punched in the face too.

Racism is often not overt. But we Brits have our Racism Radars with which we detect it these days, and any whiff of it is opposed.

Har Har.
I've ridden trains there. This guy was on the platform and not on the train. Was never on the train. Came from the side of me. I'm not sure how it works or what his job was. We don't have them in the US. But he was still there on the platform after the 2nd train she got on left, as I found him to "chat" with him

And yes, that's the thing about racism. I had to check with myself to figure if I did something wrong. Did I miss something, was I riding the train the wrong way, etc. My friend, sorta embarrassed, with the requisite privilege to see the best in people's actions, tried to downplay it as the trains there have to be/are on time. So, maybe he just wanted it to move along. That was strained.

But asking "why she was with me", said it all. And honestly, I was furious, what saved him was my fake corporate side kicked in; I wasn't sure if one of her clients, bosses, etc. was on that train.

Edit: Added the Whatsapp of the Chat after the incident.. for the people like self haters like Bemeruca who'll use anything to doubt racism. This gives the counters of the story. We didn't get into it as we chatted later on. The girl didn't take it seriously then or was trying to calm me down or was concerned as I was taking the same train to the airport. Who knows. Actually going to reach out to her later tonight and get her perspective on it again.

I swear the universe or maybe Twitter is keylogging me.
I saw these two twitter posts this AM.

1.) https://www.theroot.com/evilest-white-woman-on-earth-the-criminal-injustice-1826220942
2.) A Republican TPUSA ambassador proud of her daughter saying the N word.

This is America

budaatum:
A producer is a document police give you to go produce your documents at a station. And you did ask what I would do, which does depend on my knowledge and my ability and my status in life.

I wasn't always this privileged, as you have seen, but I sure am now. Golly, if a racist bus driver in UK stops me getting on the bus today, I'd probably go stand in front of the bus so it can't move and we'd sort it out when the cops arrive. But to be honest with you, I doubt any bus driver would be so stupid as to not let a black person on a bus in UK just because of the colour of their skin.

We don't have the situation you described where everyone in a small town including the police, would be so blatantly racist because we've had our Black Lives Matter decades ago and people have learnt not to be so racist. These days, other white folks on the bus and at the bus stop would raise a stink if it happened.

Interesting, the US doesn't have anything similar to that. You're supposed to carry certain documents and they can look up other deets on a database. Outside of that they would write you a ticket and then you could appeal it in court. Learned something new.

When I was in the UK not to long ago on one of my 1 day layovers, I stayed at a hotel near the airport. A friend went to dinner with me and spent the night. The next AM I walked her to the train to head to work. She was obviously dressed up, suit etc for her corporate finance gig. Me, I was in shorts, a t-shirt and flip flops (I just got out of bed and walking her was a last minute decision). The train arrived and as I waiting to enter (was going to ride with her), the guy on the platform (not sure what he's called), walked over, told me the train was full and to step off. Just me. It wasn't, it was just taking time as someone was blocking the entrance. I asked why, he wouldn't answer and the train took off. My friend stepped off before then. He started walking off and I confronted him. I was so confused. The train was clearly not full. Felt like there was something I was missing. I had stern words for him, pisssed my friend was now late for work, and he looked over at her and asked why she was with me. And then it all made sense. She was this white woman, cleary doing well for herself by the way she was dressed with her LV purse, and I was this black guy in shorts and a t-shirt at 8 am of a workday on a platform with other people who looked and dressed similar to her. She saw the look in my eyes and calmed me down. She was confused and taken aback as well. We waited for the train and I took off. She was late and I was embarrassed. I went and found him when the train took off to exact a toll, we had a round of terse conversation. I got his info and then realized the pernicious thing about racism. Though, to me it was clear what he had done. He could stand behind the fact that he believed the train was full and needed to let the train move on to get to it's destination on time. I was in London for a about 10 more hours. So that was that.

budaatum:
See my response to the stupid idiot, and here's another link about it.
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-2024-elections/2330#102302250

I disagree with your gaslighting that "it's your fault if you're the victim of racism", since I never said any such thing. But yes, I do indeed speak "from a place of privilege".

35-40 years ago, I was constantly stopped just for driving a Ford Gti, which was considered to be a high performance car that I was assumed to be too young (and black) to drive. One week alone I had 3 producers to present my insurance and license at a police station within 14 days so I did. I gave the cop the first one and he registered my documents, then I gave him the second and he registered my documents again, and then I gave him the third one, and even he was shocked I had three in such a short time, and he was pissed I hadn't given him all 3 in one go. It was the last producer I ever had.

I was also once stopped for speeding though I wasn't speeding. It was an underpass on my way home from uni that I knew had cameras and I wasn't stupid. Cops checked my license and asked where I was from, so I gave my address, and was then asked where my parents were from "with a name like that", to wit I asked what my parents had to do with them stopping me. They then asked if they could search my car, and on finding nothing they said my tire had a gash on the side and was therefore defective and they gave me a fine with points on my license and 2 weeks to contest it if I would. So I wrote to the court what I've stated above, and that I'd brushed against the kerb on my way home and my tire fixer was just down the road where I was going to get my tire fixed as I didn't want to stop in the middle of a highway.

At court, the judge asked me if I was guilty or not, and I said I wasn't, so he asked the police to present their case and the lawyer for the police said the policeman who stopped me had refused to appear in court to testify, so the case was thrown out. Numerous times after that police would follow me for a while and eventually drive off because when they radio in to check my details they discover I've had producers and I'm not someone they can easily push over, I eventually found.

If I live in a small town where everyone is racist, then I would seriously need to check my head and ask why that's the town I choose to live and work in when I can very easily move my black ass elsewhere. But these days, one can sue for loss of earnings and mental health distress and for one's legal fees too, and I'm sure I can find an out of town lawyer to help me sue if I have evidence to prove the bus driver did not let me on the bus because of the colour of my skin, which I would have these days because the bus would likely have it's own CCTV showing the bus driver being racist, and the incentive for the lawyer is that he can sue for cost so it costs me nothing if I win.

That racist cretin of 35 years ago outsmarted me and I learnt from it and have since placed myself in the privileged position I am now in such that never again ever since, you see. In fact, it's like your "you can't know a place if you haven't lived there", same as I wouldn't know what to do if I hadn't had the experience I had that taught me what to do.

Fuq with me then, shame on you, but I'd be ashamed if I'm fuq with now.

I don't fully understand what a "producer" is. But, I am sorry to hear your experiences. Sounds similar to my experiences in the US.
But as you said, those experiences gave you perspective and privilege.
Like you, I'm equally privileged that I have the ability manipulate people's racism. But I am also understand I am uniquely situated to do such.

Not everyone is as intelligent as you or has the strength and know-how that it would take to cross oceans to reside in another country or even just move from a small town. You aren't in the mainstream and thus there are a lot of people who don't know nor have the ability to pull the levels of power needed to properly respond to racism

budaatum:
How is it possible that I'd have no one to complain to when I can simply Twitter and Snapchat and Facebook and Youtube etc, and write to my local councillor and my Member of Parliament and the local news rag to show the whole world the racist bus driver letting the white folks on the bus and not me?

I live in Blighty where the bus driver's racism can not stop me getting on the bus because I can very easily get him sacked so he doesn't drive the bus no more. And if he isn't sacked, I can sue the racist person in town and the bus company itself and cost them all money they'd rather not spend. The bus driver would after all have had to sign the mandatory equality policy of the bus company when he was hired, so why the heck would he be that stupid unless he intends to not be driving the bus the very next day?

Here in UK, even the white folks he let on the bus would protest on my behalf, and I bet I can get my white friends in USA to protest on my behalf too if my own black protests are not enough, because everyone in town and at the bus stop can not all be racist, and even if that don't work I'm certain I can very easily NAACP and ACLU his racist ass and just Rosa Park the bus company too.

There's laws you see, and the colour of my skin does not bar me from using the courts and my brain, and that's what I mean by "how I hold myself".

As Fela would say, gbami leti kín di olowo please.

Everything you said relies on the fact that institutional racism doesn't exist. How do you get justice when 1.) You can't afford a lawyer(your poor after all) and even if you could, the lawyers in your area are scared to take the case. 2.) the whole Police Department is racist. 3.) The Justices on the courts are racist 4.) And the appeals court decides not to take appeals from black people? Welcome to small town living. Where does this justice come from?

Now all those things I've mentioned, I didn't make up. Those are situations that have happened and most of them I've posted in this thread. You're speaking from a place of privilege which allows you to believe that you can affect how a racist person treats you. And it's your fault if you're the victim of racism. And honestly I find that highly offensive.

Obrigardo:
The way this child-lover pedophile has fallen to the level of that porn troll is not a surprise.
Ijebos has destroyed your soul and exposed your criminality, so you just can't take it, then you now become a troll

His perseverance and lack of shame is a thing to behold.

budaatum:
Read my response to your bag grabbers.

People may be racist to you but your response determines their success.

Not necessarily true. That's where the dangerousness of institutional racism comes in play.

Consider this example.
You live in the middle of nowhere in a small town. And the only way to get to work is ride a bus that comes 1x a day. The same person drives the bus. You don't make enough to buy a car, no neighbors who can take you and it's too far to walk.
The bus driver is racist and won't let you on the bus. The person in the town is also racist so you have noone to complain to. You need to ride the bus to get to work to make money. What could your response possibly be that would mitigate the success in their Racism?

budaatum:
Yes, Ijebos, I do not only believe that "racists are only racist to people who don't hold themselves a certain way", I know from my vast experience that "racists are only racist to people who don't hold themselves a certain way". But I do not expect you to take my word for it since you can't possibly know how and where I hold myself such that racists move along swiftly. It's after all not like you have lived in my shoes.

For clarification, what do you mean by "racists are only racist to people who don't hold themselves a certain way"? What is this certain way?

budaatum:
And note how you've classified with "truly know", as opposed to know. I have never been to the USA, but I don't think even you would claim I know nothing about American culture, though I bet you'd argue the "truly" bit. But if you've concluded I can't truly know the American culture, why, pray tell, would you who truly knows American culture be spending so much time trying to educate an ignorant me who thinks I do know and wouldn't accept what you say?

Isn't that similar to repeatedly arguing about calculus with a person who hasn't learnt to count 123 but thinks she does? And what would that say about you who truly knows calculus? (Do note that I am guilty of this too.)

Regardless of you living in America, liberal left wing you would still not have the same opinion as a maga American. And you unfortunately can't claim the difference in what you both truly claim to know is because they don't live in the America you live in.

Just imagine dump claiming Biden does not truly know American culture or vice versa, and you might see the fallacy of that stance.

It's what democracy was designed to resolve by the way. It helps decide which truly known culture gets to rule every 4 years, instead of a fallacious claim to authority of truly knowing.

Americans have distinct experiences derived from living in America. Some of those experiences lead people to be Magas some lead them to vote Biden. All those experiences are worthy to be understood and discussed, whether I agree with them or not. What I care little about, is someone sitting in Nigeria, never having been to US, spouting off about a country they have never experienced and no direct impact on them. All the while not really understanding they really have no understanding of US culture. Well, let me adjust that, what they say is helpful in as much is it gives some perspective on how America is perceived.

And I am not a liberal left wing voter. I am a Registered Independent. My social views would align closer to the Mitt Romney types, well probably my economic views as well.

budaatum:
Yes indeed "when they go low, you go high" did work. That's why dump lost and Biden has lived in the White House the last 4 years. But of course it's your time, so please don't you mind that buda.

Disagree. Biden aggressively confronted Trump. Even went on to tell the story of Corn Pop. Also threatened to take Trump behind the school to beat him up after the Access Hollywood tape. That then gave rise to Dark Brandon.

Even the media had to change how it operated. Started calling him a liar, fact checking his speeches and cutting out when he started lying.
The acknowledgement was a profound change esp. in the media, who deliberated about it for a while. Reporting things as both sides, basically amplified the liars side as well, in situations where there were no two sides.

Obrigardo:
That's why I call maga cultists the dumbest people on the planet.
Their game is just soooooo wacky tacky like this stupid dude
👇

That's wild. Gonna be a lot of stories of people who lost everything because of their Orange Messiah.
But this guy may be the pump man who dumped his stock long before the crash. The SEC definitely needs to investigate.

budaatum:
Perhaps learn from Obrigardo who doesn't bother giving them free education but just accepts they are the stupid magas they are and repeatedly rubs their faces in their maga ignorance.

Hopefully they'd learn when Biden trumps them again, though I wouldn't hold my breathe.

What do I have to learn?
Has the "I'm Switzerland" way you've been doing it been effective?
That's how Trump got elected.
Read some of the old messages here, this thread has been tragic and even more toxic long before I got here.

So, everyone does it their own way.

budaatum:
The complete experience of Nigeria is not Nepa. And while some are experiencing Nepa in Nigeria, some Nigerians are experiencing uninterrupted electricity and therefore have different understanding of Nepa.

The transformer in front of my house in Obanikoro in the 70s would blow and we would be Nepad for 6 or more weeks, yet I still meet people who lived on the Island telling me they never had power cuts at all. Personally, I think they had auto-kick-in generators that we never had, but hey.

At the end of the day, whether they had Nepa or not, mostly everyone understands what "Nepa'd" means. It's ingrained in the culture, through jokes, meme's etc. Part of the national DNA. And if you didn't live there you really wouldn't understand it the same. Is there really a discussion as to whether you have to really experience something to fully understand it?

budaatum:
I don't think you are conversing with them, and I don't see you stooping to the depths they stoop to to bully you if you asked me, but if your time is as valuable as you claim, I think they'd get much less of it because they really are not worth the time you give them, I'd think.

And at this point, I'm going to have to ask you to forgive me if I discontinue this conversation, because I need to now divert the use of my time to more valuable things than use it conversing about some irrelevant stupid ignorant maga idiots who lack the ability to reason or converse civilly.

I think Trump's election showed that good people can't sit back and expect people to just get it, that somehow the truth will prevail. The "when they go low, you go high" thing didn't really work out, esp when you were dealing with shameless people. And I don't mind giving my time once in a while to whack a MAGA.

Obrigardo:
😂😂 you hating on a dead person? 🤣🤣
Stupid child-lover pedophile and black man hater

That's degenerate behavior.

budaatum:
I think you fail to realise that even Nigerians in Nigeria don't have similar experiences, or have similar understanding of their experiences.

This is trite. Who says Nigerians experiences are all similar? But most if not all Nigerians understand what it means when someone yells Nepa. There are shared understandings born from living somewhere.

budaatum:
And I am afraid that the evidence I see does not show that you "usually don't hang around ignorant people", considering the amount of time you spend conversing with ignorant people here.

Am I conversing or bullying them back?
I'm online when I'm at my desk working(down time) or getting things done. Don't log into Nairaland on my phone or when I travel. My time offline is valuable. Where would I even meet ignorant people? Not in my circle.

budaatum:
If you did believe the above by the way, then the logical conclusion is to not discuss a place with those you've assumed "can't know a place" they've never lived and are ignorant about the place they haven't visited, unless they are paying you to educate them about the place they have not visited, which does not seem to be the case here since they refuse to learn from you who has visited or lived in the place.

From my experience, people can live in a place and be completely ignorant about the place, and some can know a lot about places they've never visited. You'd be amazed how many people visit or live in UK and don't understand how simple road markings can have evolved from the 10 Commandments.

You are right. I came to this thread to talk to Nigerians who had similar experiences. So, Nigerians who both understood Nigeria and the US. Unfortunately that's not what I found. There are distinct differences between Nigeria and the US culturally and if you haven't been/lived there you probably wouldn't understand. And if one can't acknowledge that, they are letting their pride and ego speak making it even harder to have a discussion and understand the differences.

You are right about ignorant people. But I usually don't hang around ignorant people.

budaatum:
I guess that's the problem, and what you do here too. Some stupid brainless idiots troll on a Nigerian forum so you join in trolling with them.
I'm not like that myself. I don't, because everyone around me decides to eat poo, join in and eat poo with them.

Ex. Driving in Lagos. I used to drive in Lagos like I would drive in the US. I would trafficate and wait for someone to give me space to enter. It rarely happened. Finally, my g/f would laugh and told me to let her drive. But she was right, in order to get anywhere driving I had to be more aggressive. If I didn't acclimate to that, I couldn't drive. Sometimes, you have to acclimate to the environment you're in or leave the environment.

budaatum:
I live in UK, and can say that I have barely experienced racism in UK, and by your own admission of not actually living here and only "just a brief trip", I guess I can say you don't know what you talking about. But that would be rather silly of me since despite me living here and not experiencing racism, that does not mean others haven't.

You might not know this, but how one is treated largely depends on oneself. I hold myself in such a way that being racist to is not others preferred treatment of me, just as grabbing my bag or trolling me fails too.

I can't possibly have decided some are stupid idiots and then spend my time being stupid idiots with them. That's just way too unhavard for me and my liking, and a complete waste of my time and effort and learning.

This is a lot.

I've spent considerable time in the Uk when me ex was there for for grad school. Stayed near Leicester Sq.
You can't possibly believe that racists are only racist to people who don't hold themselves a certain way. Sounds too much like blaming racism on the people who are bearing the brunt of that racism.

And are you trying to argue that you can truly know a culture if you haven't experienced it first hand? It's a very Western view that discounts culture.

budaatum:
You think I "Lived in the West too long", like I don't go to Nigeria? Sorry, but that statement is as lame as it being claimed I don't know anything about America because I've never been there.

For your information, and so you don't just rely on your thinking, my last time in Nigeria was January 2014-April 2016, during which I wasn't just visiting, but worked there. And no one tried to grab anything of mine, because I don't put myself in situations where bag grabbing is possible, same as I don't let stupid idiots grab my time on here.

Those whom I let around me know not to try such nonsense with me for starts, and I don't walk the Nigerian streets with a "grab my bag" label on my forehead.

It's a choice, you see. I can sit with bag grabbers and moan about my bag being grabbed, or move myself so I'm amongst people who regard and respect me enough not to try grabbing my bag. I also don't have to wait "until the 4th or 5th person tries to grab my bags". Once I've "embarrassed" and told the first person not to grab my bag, they'd tell those who follow that my bag is not grabbable.

One can let others dictate the situations one finds oneself in and whom one gives one's bag and time to, is the point, as opposed to being at the whim of their grabbing and then repeatedly moaning about one's bag and time being grabbed. Besides, it would be rather odd and silly of me to claim "my body my choice", if my bag and time were subject to the grabbing of others, I'd think.

I can not be in Nigeria for 3 months and it still takes me aback when I land. There is just a different mentality in Nigeria vs. the West for whatever reason. I use a protocol officer and from the time I land to the time I get into my car, I can count the times someone tries to grab a bag and usher me somewhere. And I'm not saying it's nefarious, just aggressive. My friends and I talk about it all the time. My friend went as far as to question whether he thought rotaries could work effectively in Nigeria.

And it's not just me. I was in a dealership servicing a car on one trip. The manager came by. He was new to Naij and we were just chatting. He told me how when he first landed, he was aghast that his driver was running lights and speeding and cutting people off. Told him to cut it out. A month later he found himself doing the same thing.

And you really can't know a place until you live there. Whenever I travel, the experience on the ground always changes my view of it. And that's just a brief trip. The same is even in Western countries. I didn't realize how much racism was in the UK, until I had a bad experience there on a trip.

raumdeuter:
If you have to post what you have on a random internet board maybe you have problems deeper than insecurity maybe a mental problem really

People with that much wealth and good life don't get mad when someone claims they have just 1 of your 100 toys except they are mentally ill

Make up your mind. Did you want me to answer your question or not?. It's the first time I talked about the education of my parents or the type of house I'm in when I'm in Naij. The small shit I post here, is small ish. I can't post real stuff because it'll be easier to identify me.