Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel Admits Its Lies In The Killing Of Palestines. by Ikomi(m): 11:16pm On Jul 22, 2009 |
davidylan: Ikomi, what is so hard about the question that you cant just answer in simple language? Do we have to suffer this revulsive musical chairs you folks play with issues when it comes to Israel?
Where were the threads on the evil that others were doing just recently? Where were you whinning about China, Russia, Pakistan and other killing machines gunning down innocents in their attempt to root out terrorists in their midst? Doesnt it expose your complete and utter hypocrisy that while you're whining about a war that lasted a mere 2 weeks and that ended over 5 months ago . . . China gets to mow down Uighur muslims and everyone including you is silent? It does not have to be me that talks about evil in other parts of the world, but I would rather go against justification of evil. That is exactly what you are doing. Isreal should be condoned afterall they are not as bad as some people I know. Wrong Wrong Wrong. Evil is Evil no matter how big or small, and still I am waiting until you tell me on what scale or fact - as you would like to say - you came to the conclusion that Isreal is the lesser evil which should be excused. davidylan: China did the same, Russia does the same, USA does the same (infact in both Iraq and Afghanistan), Pakistan is doing the same, Hezbollah recently held Lebanon hostage . . . where are your cries? Very soon I know some people who would come in to quote the bible. Should we continue in sin because mercy abounds. You ask yourself that question, then you would see why Isreal bothers me. Then they would say God gave them a land we all know is not theirs, talk of bearing false witness against God. Maybe if you take a proper look at it from my own position in truth and honesty, if it does not bother you then that is where the real problem lies. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel Admits Its Lies In The Killing Of Palestines. by Ikomi(m): 10:52pm On Jul 22, 2009 |
Tudór: Cool. If you doubt the soviet invasion of berlin and the subsequent destruction, then go search for the pictures and compare them with kuwait, iraq, france and poland.
BTW what do you define as destruction? Its in your place to go find the pictures, and point to us the destructions they represent due to the invasion of the allied forces. I should not be doing that. Am sure you can surf the net or probably you have a dictionary, look for meaning of destruction. davidylan: China crushed the Uighur uprising recently. Russia sent in troops to quell a terrorist uprising in Chechnya. Georgia paid dearly for daring to take back a territory Russia annexed from them. Allied forces carpet bombed and almost completely destroyed Germany during WWII EVEN THOUGH neither the US nor UK were invaded by Germany. Japan dared attack Pearl Harbour and suffered two atomic bombs.
Are you holding Israel to the same standards with which you hold the above nations? Ohh please, in other words, what you are saying is, Isreals evil should be tolerated since it has not gotten to the scale of the ones you've mentioned here. Still I ask you lets assume Isreal's evil is leeser in comaprison to the ones you've mentioned above, on what scale did you measure this wars Davidylan? To know which is more brutal. The Isrealis has no justification no justification at all for killing innocent people. If Alquida bombed the twin towers and killed innocent people and the US now walks into Afganistan and start killing innocent people, then the US is as good as Alquida. If Isreal could go into Lebanon and Palestine and target innocent people, what makes them better than Hezzbollah or Hamas? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel Admits Its Lies In The Killing Of Palestines. by Ikomi(m): 10:35pm On Jul 22, 2009 |
davidylan: what is all this? I asked a very simple question. What is all the ridiculous dancing around the issue? I warned you not to be insultive as I knew that is always your last refuge. davidylan: Would you hold Israel to EXACTLY the same standards that you hold England, the US, Pakistan, China and russia? Can you explain yourself here what are you asking?  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel Admits Its Lies In The Killing Of Palestines. by Ikomi(m): 10:27pm On Jul 22, 2009 |
davidylan: did you answer the question? why are you moral equivalence police avoiding facts?
If Israel did 1/100th of what the russians did to chechnya what would you do? If your question is justified and is in conformity with the issue at hand then I would answer it. Now what is your question? What Russians did in Chechnya. Davidylan on what scale did you weigh the two wars to come out with the view that the Russians have been very brutal and so brutal to the Chechnyas that the the Isrealites need to learn from them and step up there use of chemicals on innocent people. I hope you are not making any mistakes though the war was actually between Russia and Georgia. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel Admits Its Lies In The Killing Of Palestines. by Ikomi(m): 10:15pm On Jul 22, 2009 |
davidylan: another ridiculous troll. If Israel flattened Gaza or Lebanon the EXACT SAME WAY the allies flattened Germany or Nagasaki . . . what would you self-righteous moral police do? Now you are pointing out the evil of the Isrealis you are supporting. They actually went to Lebanon for destruction not to win a war and help set the people in the right part. Rather they went for total genocide, if the world has turned there back as they wanted us to. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel Admits Its Lies In The Killing Of Palestines. by Ikomi(m): 10:11pm On Jul 22, 2009 |
Tudór: Sometimes i wonder how people think. Did the Nazi's invade britain? They only bombarded through the air and what percentage of londons infrastructure was destroyed?. How you can compare that with ground invasion involving troops, tanks, artillery in addition to air support by the russians beats the hell outta me. Because there was an invasion then that simply points out destruction. Look in your own thought, and believe invasion might mean destruction but my friend that is not right. When Iraq invaded Kuwait, Kuwait was not destroyed, when Germany invaded France, Poland and Austria, none of this nations were destroyed. When America invaded Iraq, Iraq was not destroyed, the problem in Iraq is Iraqis themselves blowing things up. How invasion in your own view now means destruction is another thing entirely. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel Admits Its Lies In The Killing Of Palestines. by Ikomi(m): 10:05pm On Jul 22, 2009 |
Tudór: What are you talking about? When the soviet forces where bombarding berlin so bad that hitler had to to commit suicide because the russians were just across the street. Stalin told his generals that by may 1 a soviet flag should be hanging over the reichstag.Berlin was virtually destroyed, get your facts straight. Another obvious lie. How do you know he died when the Soviets were just a few blocks away? Ehhh Tudor?  No one can unequivocally tell how he died, even his remains has not been undoubtedly found. With this I have come to the conclusion that you guys are just out to deceive in the name of facts and knowledge. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel Admits Its Lies In The Killing Of Palestines. by Ikomi(m): 9:45pm On Jul 22, 2009 |
Tudór: What are you talking about? When the soviet forces where bombarding berlin so bad that hitler had to to commit suicide because the russians were just across the street. Stalin told his generals that by may 1 a soviet flag should be hanging over the reichstag.Berlin was virtually destroyed, get your facts straight. If what you state there is a fact, then Britain was equally destroyed during the heavy bombardments from Hitler, when his bormbardment was so succesful in London he even boasted to Churchill that by next week he would be having tea at Buckingham Palace. So with that we could say Britain was destroyed?Only God knows where u guys get these lies you call fact. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel Admits Its Lies In The Killing Of Palestines. by Ikomi(m): 9:15pm On Jul 22, 2009 |
davidylan: did you answer either of the two questions i posed to you earlier? I repeat - why? How much food did the allies allow to go into Nazi Germany before they destroyed it? When did it become imperative that the enemy must allow food to go in to feed those who are desperate to destroy them?
why didnt Egypt allow food too? Stop using words that are not right Davidylan for the sake of truth. The allies never detroyed Germany, Germany was never destroyed, it was defeated. Davidylan for the sake of English there is a major difference between destruction and defeat. What kind of a person are you, where do you get your news.  This Dylan eeehhh? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel Admits Its Lies In The Killing Of Palestines. by Ikomi(m): 8:05pm On Jul 22, 2009 |
@ Davidylan and Tudor Your analogies are queer. Have you guys looked into the reason why it is only Isreal that receives these rockets from Hamas. Why would Hamas throw rockets at Spain, Russia or China. Davidylan your view is always questionable, and whatever you do on this thread dont insult me.  |
Foreign Affairs › Democracy, Crazydemoo, Demonstaration Of Crase by Ikomi(op): 1:56pm On Jul 22, 2009 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran Says CIA Killed Michael Jackson by Ikomi(m): 3:38pm On Jul 12, 2009 |
"Dont believe everything you hear" "Never doubt what you can not disprove" As Solomon said, there is only one evil he has seen on earth "The children of God walk on foot while those of the devil ride on horses".  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Obama Visits Egypt. . . Obama Visits Africa. . . Is Egypt Not In Africa? by Ikomi(m): 1:56pm On Jul 12, 2009 |
Negro_Ntns: I know the response is rushed and kind of jumbled together. I will clarify any point if you want. RichyBlacK: Why is the Incas coming up here? They were across the Atlantic in present-day Central/South America. The Greeks and Mongols were in Eurasia. Richyblack the man himself said it, its a big jumble many things are missing.  But I get the bottom line of the story, he is just trying to point out that we have never been on the same page with Arabs. I am not sure who took more black slaves between the Arabs and the British. But one thing am very sure of is that until the true blacks either Hausa, Yoruba or Igbo take the reign of power from those Fulanis in Nigeria, and run things like reasonable humans as the Ghanians in their true black blood are trying to show to the world that democracy is actually an African thing. Nigeria will continue to experience Monarch leadership from those Fulanis who see the black man as nothing in the first place, and would rather put in place autocracy, to ensure its hold on power, which will lead that nation Nigeria nowhere even in 100 years to come. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Obama Visits Egypt. . . Obama Visits Africa. . . Is Egypt Not In Africa? by Ikomi(m): 9:42am On Jul 12, 2009 |
Negro_Ntns: Oh, I didn't mean to raise anxiety that high and please forgive my approach. But yes, I will get to the point.
We cannot separate the history of Sudan from Egypt. Infact, Sudan was Egypt. Their division into individual and separate sovereignties is fewer in years than the age of their civilization together. I don't know if I should work it backward or work it forward. . .but in any event if you are lost to the point I am making please demand my clarification.
Far back when Egypt reigned as a superpower there was only one adversary that stood in their way and that was the Ottoman Empire. Trading routes were between Africans and the Asians. . .no one paid Europe any mind because they were still in dark ages. Thank God to the influence of Egypt from their South and Ottoman from their East, they would not have evolved to what they are today. How did that transformation come about? In many successive steps.
Sometimes the waning power of one Empire leads to an increase in the rising power of another Empire elsewhere. The Pharaohs were of Nubian origin and stock. This is undisputable. The Pharaohs had two capitals - Upper Egypt and Lower Egypt. Upper Egypt was geographically located in the Kushite territory along the Nile and that region is today in Sudan. Lower Egypt was geographically located further away from the interior and in the direction of Europe and is where today is the territory of Cairo and Alexandria. For strategic reasons, old empires never locate state capitals on the edge of their dominion. . .they were always locked inland for maximum shield against surprises. The Upper Egypt capital was the spiritual capital and the Lower Egypt was a trade/caravan route between Maghrib (Today Morrocco) and Syria and Persia (Today Iran). Upper Egypt is where the Kings and their Priests hold court and Lower Egypt is where the Ministers are stationed for diplomatic missions. Trade junctions were very essential to the commerce of an Empire and many towns and mega cities today grew out of such ancient caravan/trade junctions.
Egypt reigned over Palestine and into Assyria. There was nothing called Saudi Arabia then. Clashes between Egypt and Ottoman resulted in territorial losses. The Egyptians (Nubians - negroes like you and me) were the ones that enslaved the Jews. You have to wonder, if there were Jews in Europe and other lands and these other places were civilized, why did they not wage war against the Nubians to free the Jews? It's because there were only two civilizations competing over the region now called Middle East and neither one particularly cared for Jew and so Jew was the race that no one wanted to be or associate with back then. Kinda like the black race today. . .
Well, Ottoman Empire broke up into sub Empires and so did the Nubian Empire (Egypt). Out of these multiple break ups is where Persian Empire came from. . . the Roman Empire grew. In fact before Roman the Greeks existed and were adversary to the Persian Empire.
So what happened to Upper Egypt? With the growth and expansion of Roman Empire then you have sub Empires such as Britain, Germany, France, Spain, Portugal. The Nubians were the gate keepers of Lower Egypt up bordering Meditarenean Sea. When their Empire collapsed they retreated inland, down to Upper Egypt. What they had left further splintered into Kushite and Axumite Empires (Abyssinia). Haile Selassie was the last Emperor of that dynasty. Now, it was easy for Arabs to penetrate into Africa and enslave our people because the guardians of the outpost had all perished or abandoned station.
It was relatively easy for the Romans to penetrate as well and take over Lower Ehypt and establish their reign in the region. In addition with colonial rules. . . in their greed for total control of Lower Egypt and in an aim to re-write history. . . Britain was against Egypt and Sudan remaining one nation and so it worked covertly and succeeded in severing their ties and giving them individual sovereignties. Now, over the years and with castigation of black people as backward and abominable. . . just as the jews were treated in ancient times. . . the inhabitants of Lower Egypt began to separate from their black roots and associated with Arabs or Europeans.
Almost all the statutes. . . the Kings and Priests statutes that had Nubian features (Negroid) have been modified and given new appearances to match a rewrite of history claiming Egypt as land of Arabs or Europeans.
I know the response is rushed and kind of jumbled together. I will clarify any point if you want. I stopped reading from the area in bold as it does not agree with my knowledge of history. You have lost quite a lot in the middle, before the area in bold. Before the roman empire, there were the Incas, the greeks, and the monguls in the east. So you see how it does not agree with my knowledge of history. If the Romans came out of the division of the Eyptian and Ottoman empire. So how do you explain the Incas, the greeks and monguls. I will hold it there and await an explanation, before I ask you about the saxons. And then there was nothing like France, Britain, Spain or Portugal, Even Turkey existed before this places. God bless turkish women, what beauty.  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Obama Visits Egypt. . . Obama Visits Africa. . . Is Egypt Not In Africa? by Ikomi(m): 5:14pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
I think you are digressing from the topic of the thread. I was talking to an Egyptian someday, and we shared the same view about Africa and how it can make progress, I was shocked beyond my wildest dreams when I asked him how exactly it was in Egypt, he went "first I have to mention it to you that Egypt is in the middle east". That was when I realised we have been on different page all along. Look Racism is not only practised in the west, even Arabs, think they are somewhat better than the black African.  And it is been clearly demonstrated in Sudan, tell me why the supporters of APC are killing blacks in darfur, are there not muslims among the blacks they kill. Its just the Fulanis believeing they are better than the true black man. I have always mentioned to anyone who cares to listen that the fulanis is the problem Nigeria has, they believe they are better than the average black man and will do anything to hold on to power. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Crime Lords Running West Africa by Ikomi(op): 11:49pm On Jul 09, 2009 |
Tudór: Everything is the west! Is it the west that's breaking pipelines and bunkering oil? Are they the peeps importing old computers and electronic waste? The truth is that nigerians go to these people and ask for this waste in order to make a quick buck, they bunker oil and invite the foreigners to party. If no nigerian decides to purchase the waste would it end up here in the first place? You make it sound so easy. Guess you've forgotten the adage "Cut your coat according to your size". If rubbish is what you can afford, rubbish is definately what you would be in search of. How many of us Nigerians can afford Plasma.  Sorry 46"inch.  |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Crime Lords Running West Africa by Ikomi(op): 7:20pm On Jul 09, 2009 |
RichyBlacK: The West has some blame.
The divide and rule strategy was used throughout the colonial period (80 years for Nigeria) to entrench division. This division is at the bane of Nigeria's problems. ElRazur:

At what stage do we move on and start to actually look at ourselves? I have heard that excuse for like years now. . . Do you not think it is becoming a broken record? It might be a broken record, but that does not say its not a true song. The west still plays the same tactics till tomorrow. Although honestly am tired of singing that same old song. Its getting boring.  |
Foreign Affairs › Crime Lords Running West Africa by Ikomi(op): 5:56am On Jul 09, 2009 |
The United Nations says organised crime is "plundering" West Africa, as illicit goods flood through the region.
A report by the UN Office on Drugs and Crime says the smuggling of oil, arms, toxic waste, diamonds and cigarettes continues to flourish in West Africa.
Corruption is also rife among senior officials, undermining democracy and economic development, the UN says.
But the report did notice one positive trend: a reduction in the flow of cocaine through West Africa to Europe.
In recent years West African countries have been used as a transit point by Colombian drug lords. But increased international attention has smothered some trafficking activity in the past year.
Development in danger
The report identified oil theft and smuggling as the greatest threat to West Africa, as it is directly linked to insurgency and violence in the region.
In Nigeria, some 55 million barrels of oil - nearly one-tenth of the country's annual production - are lost every year through theft and smuggling. The illicit trade often leads to pollution.
West Africa has also become a major destination for electronic waste from Europe, such as old phones, computers and batteries, which is another threat to the environment.
"Organised crime is plundering West Africa, destroying governments, the environment, human rights and health," said UNODC head Antonio Maria Costa.
The agency warned that democracy and development would continue to falter in West Africa while crime and corruption flourish. Does anything here sound familiar.  |
Culture › Re: Igbo Kwenu! kwezuo Nu! Join Us If You're Proud To Be An Igbo Guy/Lady by Ikomi(m): 9:01pm On Jul 07, 2009 |
$osisi: Ikomi hapu m aka eji m nwayo na a gwa gi ya now hapu m aka unu warn u kwa Ikomism I na ga kwa church? ka i bu zi heathen We'terem shirt mu boo.  Owu otu ibe gi si eme, we'terem my shirt please, otherwise nga ekwu everything here.  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Can Somebody Please Explain Why They Need A Nuclear Weapon by Ikomi(op): 6:50am On Jul 02, 2009 |
ElRazur: [i]On a serious note. What are NK's ally doing about this? Surely china can afford to send some money to them. What about Russia? Whatever the case, innocent people are suffering and Kim is there living life to the max. Sucks. How would you react, if your friend spends money piling guns, cause he thinks his neighbourhood is dangerous, while his children starves. Then he comes to ElRazur, "I think you should do something, you cant sit and watch could you?" North Korea, it would by its own hands destroy itself even b4 the war starts. |
Foreign Affairs › Can Somebody Please Explain Why They Need A Nuclear Weapon by Ikomi(op): 11:52pm On Jul 01, 2009 |
North Korean food need 'critical' North Korea is facing a "critical" food shortage, especially for children, the UN's food agency has said.
The World Food Programme's director for North Korea said the agency was unable to reach millions of North Koreans due to a shortfall in funding.
The director, Torben Due, said the WFP had received no new donations for North Korea since Pyongyang conducted a nuclear test in May.
He also said Pyongyang had barred the WFP from using Korean-speaking staff.
North Korea had given no reason for that decision, he added.
Mr Due told reporters in Beijing that the WFP had received only 15% of an international appeal for $504m (£306m) and had to cut back plans to provide food aid to 6.2 million North Koreans to 2.27 million.
Vicious circle
North Korea has relied on food aid from China, South Korea and aid agencies to feed millions of its people since a famine in the 1990s resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands.
Recent flooding and the suspension of South Korean fertiliser aid shipments have hindered food production.
"We are now in the middle of the lean season in North Korea, where food supplies are low and it's a very difficult situation for many people in the country," Mr Due said.
Children were particularly at risk, he said.
"For children it is critical, and it means they do not have the nutrition required for growth," Mr Due said.
"We see an increase in the number of children being admitted to hospitals with severe malnutrition," he said.
He described a vicious circle in which malnourished children were growing up stunted with weakened immune systems and then giving birth to children with poor health.
The WFP's North Korea appeal had received no contributions since Pyongyang conducted a nuclear test on 25 May, he said.
"I understand to a certain extent why donors are questioning," he said.
"But my angle is as a humanitarian. Being a humanitarian organisation you should look at the needs of the people."
Mr Due said the WFP was now only allowed to operate in 57 counties within North Korea, instead of the previous 131. |
Culture › Re: Igbo Kwenu! kwezuo Nu! Join Us If You're Proud To Be An Igbo Guy/Lady by Ikomi(m): 11:06pm On Jul 01, 2009 |
toshmann: @ikomi, pres-elect et al,
owu unu ga aga prison ihere anaghi eme gi, i na achughari BabyO up and down, i ma kwa ihe wu nso ala? akpasukwala chineke iwe o, lekwa felimbombo buruchaa, hapu BabyO. Owu na ichutu beghi nwanyi nno na di?  Then you dont know what ur missing.  Juoooo kwa Osisi.  |
Culture › Re: Igbo Kwenu! kwezuo Nu! Join Us If You're Proud To Be An Igbo Guy/Lady by Ikomi(m): 2:38pm On Jun 30, 2009 |
@Osisi Anam agba Ify na ina ato sege.  |
Culture › Re: Igbo Kwenu! kwezuo Nu! Join Us If You're Proud To Be An Igbo Guy/Lady by Ikomi(m): 11:39pm On Jun 29, 2009 |
ifyalways: Ikomi can only dream on,its his right now,at the end of the day baby,a mam where and which side of the bed to lay my isi. . .right na okpa na obi gi.  Inshort buru ihe gi laaaaa.  Otokara nke Osisi?  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Still On Iran - The Hypocrisy Of The West - Myths And Lies by Ikomi(m): 4:46pm On Jun 29, 2009 |
ElRazur: Ikomi,
With all due respect, I think you and I are speaking diffferent language and discussing different things. The point I am making is this - If the view presented in the original post by afam claims to be facts, yet these so called facts won't even face up to scrutiny when taken apart. I have raised many observational questions and direct question at Afam, all which he evaded and having no clue about.
Facts are something one cant argue. For example saying Obama is the president of USA is a fact. No one can argue that. Period. The basis of what forms part of the article posted by Afam are not facts. These I pointed at zillion times. That is my point.
As for you saying claiming persian version of website launched, I think you will find that a few major sites already have a Persian version running and as such, it have nothing to do with wanting to destabilize iran like you are suggesting. You have a point and if you read my very first response to the post as the third respondent, I made it clear to the poster that although we all know from history that the west meddles in other nations politics but other nations are not perfect either, if they were in the position of power there is a chance they would do the same. Then I concluded with the idea that our basic responsibility is to speak out against injustice. Yes we could blame the west for many things but the Iranian leadership has its own problems. I enjoyed your discussion with Afam I read it all, I just wanted to poke you on the side a bit with your 1+1=2 fact  All am saying is that the write up might not have facts to substantiate its claims, we equally dont have facts to disproof it. Thanks ElRazur |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Still On Iran - The Hypocrisy Of The West - Myths And Lies by Ikomi(m): 4:33pm On Jun 29, 2009 |
davidylan: I didnt need to read the story, neither you nor afam where making any comments remotely related to the story. Just cooking up conspiracy theories just like the author of the opinion piece falsely presented as "facts". Then your contribution must be inaccurate, go and play outside with your mates then. Let those who can read contribute. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Still On Iran - The Hypocrisy Of The West - Myths And Lies by Ikomi(m): 4:27pm On Jun 29, 2009 |
davidylan: you cant help but shake your head at these dumb dudes . . . twitter and bbc must be a western conspiracy to destroy the arabs. You see that you did not even read the whole story or conversation you jumped at the topic cause you heard arabs. When your next of kin smells that name too, am sure he would be here, anything arabs attract you guys, its like light to insects. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Still On Iran - The Hypocrisy Of The West - Myths And Lies by Ikomi(m): 4:23pm On Jun 29, 2009 |
Attention seekers are out, or they hide under different names.  What are we talking about propanganda, bbc, twitter - no they are not facts, they are just dormant information mediums. It takes your ugly teeth to spread propaganda. |