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ElRazur:

More diversion and irrelevant post.
Your previous statement acknowledges that you haven't answered any of the questions posed at you so far. Questions that actually addresses the issues at hand, instead of the constant bickering you are making. You then turn around to ask me what questions again. Nice logic.

Time would tell if you can rise to the occassion and challenge those questions directed at you. So far, you clearly ain't up to the task at hand.

You have finally followed that same thing I was pointing at, to prove you wrong. Logic

The fact still remains that when the managers of twitter wanted to shut there site down for updates they were clearly informed by the state department not to, as this was clearly the tool of the Iranian protesters. If the US could go that far what stops us from thinking they did'nt do more.

The BBC during the period of protest quickly launched a persian session on its website. What more facts do you need to show that the - so called west - was not well biased.

Honestly ElRazur wat is your question. Facts? Okay, what facts have you got to say the so called west had no hand in the protest?

ElRazur:
1+1 = 2 is a fact. This is recognised and can be proved.

Wrong Wrong Wrong.  Excuse me this is just a diversion to prove the point that in Algebra 1 + 1 = 1

In other words

True + True = True

1 + 0 = 0

True + False = False

0 + 1 = 0

False + True = False

0 + 0 = 0

False + False = False

Look ElRazur all am trying to let you know is that what is true and what is not, sometimes depends on what angle your looking at it from. 

And if logic is something we should follow in this argument ElRazur your fact says your wrong.

ifyalways:
@Ikomi

What?

Ma iga'e enyem gaa ekwuo, atulam nkolo oka now.

@Topic

Perharps I should point it out to you that a man with 3 sons loves one more than others, although he raised them all, but he still loves one more than the others. It would be naturally assumed that he should love them all equally, but no, he loves one more than the other. So also is a mothers love, she gave birth to them all,  but one of  them is loved more than the others.

I think the problem most of us have, is that we see nations as one big entity, maybe if we start narrowing it down to its smallest unit - the individual, as scientist break down compositions to there smallest particle - atom, in other to undertand it better, then and only then we would have a better picture.

The west is not perfect, but you can equally say the same of every other nation.

Afam its a constant struggle in an individual, that fight for perfection, if it would ever be attained is another thing, but one thing is for sure, let all men of goodwill speak out when they see injustice, that is our call to life, that is the only way we would draw closer to our destination.

But dont ask me if we would ever get there, who can tell kwanu, when the distance is unimaginable, not to say immeasurable.

ifyalways:
rofl

Ikomi biko lekwa nsusu ida obi na nke ozo were

O yeah.

Kam bia ga traning, so that nga lasti 40 mins with each shot (at least 4 shots), Because amaghim ngbe iga enyem another chance.

Nke onye riri ka oji ala.

toshmann:
umunne m na umunna m, bikonu, nwa mama ga alu nwanyi in the next 2 weeks. preparation is hot now. efe adighi. and if unu ahughi m again this yr, bikonu mee understand, because nwa mama is moving on an 8 months honeymoon to hawaii and florida

Odimka toshman ona alaghachi back to prison.

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$osisi:
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He is the greatest of them all. A man who single handedly took on the world. He cuts across continents, from Asia to Africa to the Americas and south America, in Europe everyone agrees to one thing, Michael plays good music.

When Mtv would not play any black music, they found him too hard to resist, and on playing his music, Mtv was then accepted worldwide. Every other black artist owe him some thanks.

I was hoping I would see him this year.

He rocks my world. 

What a man. 

@ Topic And to whom it may Concern.

"If it happens the first time its an accident,
if it happens the second time its a plan,
if it happens the third time its a program"

The poster has finally chossen the path of stupidity, and why should anyone in his right sences be afraid to say so?

@Topic

What a lousy write up, more like a personality attack than it is on policy.

His origin, and how that links with colonialism and Marxism?

Maybe she sees an opening in the Republican party, all you need to do now to get a place in the party is attack Obama.

Who gets the position is who attacks him the best, so she took an area most Americans might not be looking at or have forgotten. "Oooohhhhhhh you guys should look, I found out he is a black man and his from Kenya, where blacks aren't doing too well".

Only an idiot would find this intresting and make a topic of it.

Av always called him one from the very first read of his first post, he is just making my job easier portraying his utmost stupidity. 

Kx:
NL Attorney.
You became so defensive with loads of insult on anyone with an opinion different from urs.
"lack of exposure,knowledge,or u simply just cant read".
I wonder why educated attorneys will not make their points without
suffocating constructive dissenting opinions.

Sorry if that sounds insultive but realy I did'nt mean it that way.

But seriously, it is very good to read, question your own self on issues then when it gets to a point you cant find answers to, ask, and that way even in ignorance you would come across as intelligent. Because the question would definately sound reasonable.

Maybe I lost my patience when you started with Iranians, Egyptians and Suadis, and ended with a quote:

When u are in rome,behave like a roman.
Give unto caesar what belongs to caesar

Which has no place in the argument.

Once again am sorry if my post is insultive, but please my brother try to dey read. 

Kx:
If a muslim in Iran,Saudi Arabia or any of the muslim state is home,she
dresses the muslim way so freely.[/b]If d same person emigrates to the west,still,[b]she dresses the muslim way so freely.

However if a non-muslim from the west is going to a muslim state,
she cannot dress her normal way,she cannot dress freely,i mean,minis,trousers etc because she is not
permited to dress so,simply put its anti host country-muslim- culture.

Na muslims get dis world sef?

Lets all make laws to suit our national interest and culture.

When u are in rome,behave like a roman.
Give unto caesar what belongs to caesar

I dont know your problem, maybe its lack of exposure, knowledge or that you cant simply read.

Muslims in Fance are not Iranians, Egyptians or Saudi Arabians.

They are French born muslims or emigrated muslims (and during migration there was no where they signed a code of conduct that the French have a mode of dressing). Islam is there religion it includes wearing the burqa, the same with chritianity, although many would deny.

Am tired of answering to people who would run in here to post and cant even read.  

My last post to you though.

Just for the sake of those who would want to know.

Open your bible to 1 Corinthians 11:1-15.

I know one idiot would come here and try to twist the truth to justify his argument. That Paul said full covering should be done only when in worship.

But Jesus said Pray at all times.

I think people should learn the truth, rather than just jumping on band wagons. Osisi the one in bold is meant for you.

In my view (sometimes) Christians just love the name, they don't follow Christ anymore, and they only live on the mercy of the almighty, and that includes me. I see these women in Veil and the first thing I feel is resentment, although I know they are in the right, but my worldly view will not let me accept it, but at least I wont join hypocrites.

RichyBlacK:
This is really interesting.

This tension will continue between living in the past and living for the future. Historical episodes of these kinds of struggle abound. However, the general trend has always been the relaxation of restrictive laws and attitudes and the embrace of the human spirit to be free.

Religions, all of them, put some form of restriction on the human experience. It is my belief that abiding by these restrictions should not only be a personal matter, but must never infringe upon the fundamental human rights of any individual who does not want to abide by them!

There are many good reasons why the burqa could be outlawed, chief of which is proper identification, not targeted identification of a group, but routine identification. It is common sense to note that the burqa easily gets in the way of proper identification of an individual. Can we use other forms of electromagnetic waves beyond visible light for this identification? See me in the yet-to-be-created Physics Section.

However, outright ban of the burqa in every corner of society is, in my opinion, an infringement of the fundamental human right (freedom to practice ones' religion) of the Muslim women who choose to wear them.

Though major Islamic nations like Saudi-Arabia are among the worst countries in the universe when it comes to respecting the fundamental human rights of individuals, the French do not have descend to the shameful levels of the Saudis.

The protection of the fundamental human rights of the individual must be respected by all institutions, including all governments and all religions.

I think u explained it in better words, that is all I was trying to say, before vultures started coming out from every corner.

I just don't have the will to argue this, cause naturally I find the Burqa irritating, and I know why, its only because I was brought up to see it as something unacceptable, just due to stereotype and religious believes. Now I know better.

Secondly I don't have the will cause I know someone would drag me into the bible they don't even read, if they read the whole book of Paul, am sure they would find where he instructed women to be well covered.

Abeg if you can argue it abeg stay strong, don't be surprised that vultures would come at you too, but please be strong.

If  they have not started coming out, they act like they are too clean and as if they are the first God will take to heaven. But we know better. Theirs is the height of hypocrisy.

For Osisi I wonder sometimes if it was a sucide bomber that killed her late great, great, great, great, great grandfather.

Tayo-D:
I can see you just can't get over me . I can take a joke and do not feel offended by this.


Just curious. Wer you also joking when you alluded to the Bible supporting the Burqa?

I can read you like A B C. So easy.

$osisi:
The burqa is a prison, it's a straightjacket," Urban Affairs Minister Fadela Amara, herself a practising Muslim who was born in France to Algerian parents, said in an interview in Le Parisien newspaper yesterday.

"It is not a religious insignia but the insignia of a totalitarian political project that advocates inequality between the sexes and which is totally devoid of democracy."

Says who?  

She has eaten the forbidden fruit. She has been visiting night clubs, how does she know wearing the good old burqa is a prison if she has not tasted the other side.

Infact from today my daugthers would all wear burqa, let me see if those boys would walk them home, at least they wont know who they are talking to. my girls are twins and they've got exactly the same voice.

That is why abortion is an issue, who says prevention is not better than cure.

LoL. Abeg all that is a joke, otherwise someone would jump at me soon. _Tayo-D  

JeSoul:
Hmm the rest of us must have missed the book, chapter and verse that Jesus taught all women to be completely covered. Please brotha, can you do us a religious service and show us where in the scriptures where this is taught? much obliged.

Go and read the whole book of Paul's message to the Corinthians, Romans, Colossians, Ephisians, Galatians and Thessalonians.

The last time I tried to point you in the right direction, I did not get a good thank you for it. Now I hope that assignment would keep you busy. And when you find it let us know.

JeSoul:
As far as I know only 1 major denomination of Christians allow gay leaders. Does this now constitute the billions of christians all around the world 'adulterating' the teachings of Jesus?

We dont have to wait until all denominations allow gay leaders before we say that christians allow gay leaders, except you want to confirm to us that this particular denomination that allows gay marriage are no longer christians. They are something else.

JeSoul:
Sarkozy's moral shortcomings is not the point. If the French people - living in their own country - decide by majority to vote ban anything from wine to cheese to dvds to french kissing, it is their perogative and their business. No foreigner has any standing whatsoever to take offense - else go back to your own country. Simple.

Who spoke against the burqa?

The line in blue. Ikomi Yawnsssssssss, go and read the story again dear, the French is not holding referendum yet on wine, cheese, dvd and french kisses. Not even the Burqa.

Matters of state is not that simple. I hope you've not been taking lessons from Tayo-D.

Well Afam at this point I would dissapoint you I strongly Agree with Tayo-D on this one

Tayo-D:
@Afam,
Do you see a man wise in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool (Tayo-D)  than for him. - Proverbs 26:12.

Afam remember I asked you to approach him with caution. His about to drag you in the mud.

Surely Tayo-D there is hope for you, if only you would keep quite sometimes. 

So dear Tayo-D whenever we use the FO word you know who we are referring to.

Tayo-D:
@Afam,
The folly of a question can be revealed in two ways. The first is to ask a rhetorical question that will make the questioner to think through his question as he obviously did not do so the first time. The second way is to answer the question in such a ridiculous way that the questioner will be embarassed by his question. I have chosen the former.

So once again, my response will be the same rhetorical question: "So is Iraq and Afghanistan less democratic than they were under Saddam and the Taliban?"

Afam:
Why do you like being wrong?

Where did you get the idea that the folly of a question can be revealed in 2 ways? Why 2? Why not 3?

You can ignore a question to reveal the folly inherent in it. This is another choice and this makes the total number of choices 3 and not 2.

I decided to respond this way so that you realize that though you think you are usually right that in reality most of the time you are dead wrong but way too blind to see it.

The correctness or otherwise of any issue is not at all dependent of your acceptance of a position.

Repeat this line 3 times every night before you sleep and in 2 years you will become a better debater.
Enjoy the rest of the week.

Na fly wey no get legal adviser dey follow dead body enter grave. In other words, "Wise people store up knowledge, but the mouth of a fool makes ruin imminent".

Once its been said, twice I have heard it.

Afam how can I thank you?   

If it was not truly the teaching of our Lord that women should be properly covered, why do Nuns cover all parts of there body including the hair.

The Christians have adultrated the teachings of our Lord, such that they are now moving towards ordaining gay priest, what was categorically written in the bible as not permissible.

Sarkozy has no perfect moral standing himself to judge what women wear, considering that he married a former model who once posed semi nude.

_{But honestly I love nudist, if only for the fun of seeing individuals funny body shapes and laughing of your head. Clothe dey hide something. Why don't they just ban clothes.}  

JeSoul:
There's doing the 'right' thing, then there's doing the politically right thing - and Obama has chosen the latter.

Whichever way he responds and whichever way you slice it, its a lose-lose situation, he just has to pick which loss he'll prefer to endure.

This comment comes from inadequate historical knowledge. Just a brief one.

In 1953 when President Mosadek had a plan to take away Iran's oil from American Comapnies, and stop them from making excess profit from it, at the expense of Iranians, the then American govt. paid rogues and thugs to stage protest, in other that the army would have a reason to unseat Mosadek. The plan was successful, Mosadek was thrown out of power and the Shah of Iran who was in Exile in America went back to Iran and became the President.

Mosadek was so popular with the Iranians and he was a democraticaly elected president. So the US actions did not go down well with the Iranian people, and so came the Islamic revolution of 1979, that revolution had two major theme behind it, non interference of foreign power in Iran politics and the installation of the leader of the people. This is where Ayatollah came from.

Mosavi pledges allegiance to the Ayatollah, he played a major role in this revolution, Obama routing for him would not neccessarily bring many changes to Irans foreign policy, and Obama knows this.

Secondly Mousavi does not want the Americans support, its like a kiss of death. He would loose popularity in Iran immediately he is said to be supported by foreing powers, Alhmadenajad and Khameni know this, that is why they are already trying to say that it is the British and US that are supporting the protest.

Thirdly who can really proof that Alhmadinajad did not win that election, why are most of the protesters, good with twitter and youtube, if that is the case then there is a great chance Alhmadinajad won the election, cause most of the illiterates and Islamic fundamentalist are not technical savvy, and in Iran they are more in number, and could have voted for Alhmadinajad.

Those who say Obama should back the prostesters are the same people that helped Bush sell the Iraq war. They look for nothing but trouble.

Afam:
Mr Man, I asked a question.

In case you missed it the first time

No dey answer that boy.

When you ask him a question or answer him you give grace to nonsence.

4 Play:


Even people in a state of drunken stupor make more sense

A clear sign of lack of ideas

@4 Play

You have clearly shown your stupidity.

When Hiroshima was bombed, the guy that launched the atomic bomb came back and said, if he knew that was the kind of destruction the bomb would cause, he would not fly that plane.

Then the makers of the atomic bomb replied that: "they made the bomb knowing that, if one nation knows the damage another could cause to it, by going to war, it would rather seek peace.

Thomas Hardy in his book, "the return of the natives" wrote:  "if you know the fight you would get by taken off another mans hat, you would rather leave it on"

Your are so stupid, the allied forces allowed the Germans and Japan have an army, knowing that, although they might be drafting their constitution, a breach of their right would be strongly defended.

4 Play:
Germany/Japan were at war while Israel and the Palestinians were at peace? Are you a retard?

The first major war was the War of Independence. Who launched the invasion?

These are the kind of questions that makes a student loose his/her placement in college, or Uni as a political science student.

Describe WWII and describe Middle East, if you come up with the same description then you know what your talking about.

Dont just use words, because you heard pple use it, find out the meaning. Retard, who does that word best describe between me and you?  

4 Play:
I have asked this numbnut this question several times. What choice did the states of Germany and Japan have?

Answer the question and stop sounding like a blithering idiot.

If only you could read, I have mentioned to you that Germany and Japan were at war, they invaded other states and an agreement had to be exhumed from them that they would not and never invade other nations, which involved written there constitution by ailied forces. Still you agree that these same allied forces allowed them to have there own army at the time of writing this constitution, so what are you doing a round about for?

My friend go and sit down if you dont have anything to say, I should have agreed with richy when he said your view was shameless, but i gave you a chance based on the fact that you did not point at Mo like your other comrades.

4 Play:
The undeniable evidence from history confirms the above as ignorant

There is no Palestinian state nor has there ever been one. The condition for creating one is that it be demilitarised. If Palestinians find that condition unacceptable, there will be no state.

Stop saying things you cant proof, its a move from ignorance to stupidity. Which is actually a real estate you might as well keep it.

What history have you got to back your argument, that a state should not have the right to defend itself?

I think your problem is because you see a state as a big picture which you could could only see in Cinemas. Maybe you should bring it down to the level of an individual, which is the smallest unit of state, and tell me why he/she does not have the right to defend (him/her)self

agabaI23:
Ikomi

'Ogbenyealu' putara na Ogbenye a gaghi alukota ya. Nwa ada ahu di oke onu. Ilekota ya bu maka ndi ego di n'akpa ha.
Onye na-ejighi ego, agaghi alukota ya.

At that point I strongly recommend her to you, okwa ilubeghi nwanyi? nwa ahu ga adighi nma.

'Ogbenyealu' Onaghi aga aluo Sheik?

$osisi:
I found this worship song
Eziokwu o buru na m bu nwoke,a ga ra m acho this girl ga luru ya

very soothing songs and voice
Ikomi bia lee nwunye gi
Oburu n'inwere ego ibe gi ji alu nwanyi
Ogbenyealu k'obu

I did not get that last part.

Isi nam eji gi ego eji alu nwanyi?

Juo Ify, the last wedding nmere alurum nwanyi ato at the same time.

Rev na ajum si nga elekota kwa ha. Isi Rev "I think you should mind your bizness"

Umu nwanyi ato ahu now, emepolarum(open) ha shop ebe ha ne ere akara.

I agree with you for once, but that does not mean you don't smoke that thing richyblack accused you of smoking, or erase the fact that you are a 1964 Zombie.

In 1956 when the Americans condemned the government of Hungary for communism, and strongly encouraged the protesters, am sure davidylan you're too young to know this?

The Russian tanks rolled in to support the then government of Hungary, the Hungarian protesters were eagerly awaiting the American forces, but low and behold the Americans did nothing.

The Hungarian protesters were heavily crushed and the ones who lived to tell the story deemed it stupid to ever trust the Americans.

Obama is a man who knows his history, guys like McCain would never mislead him.

The American forces are overstretched at the moment in Afghan and Iraq, a call for Iran is just impossible. Lets not mention the economic toll.

4 Play:
This is a stupid point. We have established that in principle states can be established subject to the military control of an occupying power.

Your point about Palestinians not surrendering is ridiculous. The proposed Palestinian state is to be made up of Gaza and the West Bank. Did Egypt and Jordan, which held sovereignty over these territories, not surrender?

First let me point out it out to you that you estabished nothing.

A state still must have the choice to agree to what power controls its territory until its able keep control.

He said he has established, where are you located.

4 Play:
They had no choice over the presence of occupational troops on their land, no choice over military policy, no choice over the extent of their territory. Like I have said, if you are comfortable with this then you shouldn't mind Palestine having Israeli occupational troops or determining what weapons the Palestinian Govt can buy.

They had a choice, and mind you it was war, if the allied forces had stayed longer than required there would have been repraisals, and the alllied forces knew this. So dont say they had no choice, its very wrong. And as I keep saying it was a war which was lost at that point in time. And a war brought about by Germany and Japan on others.

The Middle East peace is quite different, the palestinians pay a price for the injustice commited by others. It was Germans not arabs that committed the crime of Holocaust, not arabs and not the Palestianians, why should there land be used in appeasing the Jews. Well good and fine all that is History, but now the same people are saying give us back at least the potion you promised in 1993 and your saying, we will give you half of it, only if you do as we please. That is very wrong.

Mind you Anti-Semitism is not an arabic word.

Point out the blind and rubbish commentary. And if what makes it rubbish or blind is that you think Japan and Germany had no choice, than state why you think they did not. Dont just throw away a comment in other to sound right.