₦airaland Forum

davidylan:
I just gave you the history of the flag and the FACT that it was not "adopted" by the "palestinians" until 1988. You can as usual live with the usual dishonesty that is now par for the course with muslims who will deny reality to the last drop of their blood.

It is no coincidence that the flag is (without the star) a CARBON COPY of the Jordanian flag. The Jordanian nation is ruled by the sons of the former Sharrif of Mecca who originally designed the flag.

Now you are making that word loose value. 

How in the world does your so called FACTS justify the moral _fact that palestinians do not deserve there own state. Ehhhnnnnn Oga FACTS

davidylan:
What an idiot you are . . . Obama is firm on the fact that Iran MUST NOT have nuclear weapons. The US has the largest stockpile of nukes so just exactly what were you saying by the highlighted? Virtually every other nuclear armed nation is against Iran obtaining nukes . . . it seems you're only worried when it is Israel staking the claim.

The embodiment of facts showing low moral values, that is what you started the thread with. I only asked a question what do I get.

davidylan:
1. yeswecan and i are two different individuals . . . you can go on pissing in your pants thinking its one person using dual usernames. There are more important things to life than that.

2. I love the way you ignorant blowhards frame your "questions" . . . this is NOT an issue of whether "palestinians" deserve a state of their own (infact no one BUT THEMSELVES have begrudged them that right) but whether the "palestinians" want a state that doesnt include the obliteration of Israel as a sovereign Jewish state.

The following reasons:

1. When the PLO was founded in May 1964 by an EGYPTIAN national (note he wasnt a "palestinian" then) this was what they wrote in article 24 of the PLO charter - This Organization does not exercise any territorial sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, [or] on the Gaza Strip,

What changed between 1964 and now? Simple! Gaza and the WestBank changed hands from Egypt/Jordan to Israel . . . now ALL OF A SUDDEN the PLO is agitating for those lands as a "homeland"?

FATAH, the military wing of the PLO was founded in Gaza (then under Egyptian control) in 1956 . . . but NOT ONCE do we hear of FATAH fighting Egypt to control Gaza as part of "palestinian" homeland which it now decietfully claims today.

So WHAT EXACTLY was the motive of the PLO in 1964? Well article 19 of its founding charter explains in detail - The establishment of Israel is fundamentally null and void, whatever time has elapsed ,

So this is NOT about a homeland . . . its about the destruction of Israel.

But of course you can just go ahead and accuse me of "rambling" while providing ABSOLUTELY no substance to your own counter-argument.

Davidylan thats a very good sign of a looser.

davidylan:
the question had nothing to do with fanaticism . . . how would Iran being bombed or not affect where i live? That doesnt sound like it came from a mind that is rational as against one pre-occupied with senseless conspiracy theories.

Shld the "palestinians" get a state today . . . would that stop me from having a life? Seriously . . . did this question come from an adult?

Then please shut up and go live your life, leave affairs of the state to those who understnad it, instead of sowing your seed of hatred on this thread. Plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

davidylan:
believe you me, i couldnt fathom the sense behind this question.

I do believe you, fanatics cant see.

davidylan:
It is no surprise that for some . . . empty emotionalism is all they have to offer. It is not about showing "wisdom" . . . it is about laying down FACTS.

I dont read ANY facts from you, i dont read any bit of HISTORY from you, all we get is empty drivel, loud noise-making, insults and irrelevant moral relativism. As i used to say, its not by force to post on threads like this if you are largely bereft of the fundamental issues fueling the mid-east conflict.

To equate the PLO to the OAU is to play the fool and expose yourself for being unable to comprehend simple logic.

If the PLO claims to be fighting for territorial integrity . . . then why did its first charter virtually gift away the West Bank to Jordan in 1964?

but of course i only expect senseless talking points in response.

Lol,

You would not be there when the Palestinians get there State.

And like it was said in Egypt yesterday we would not tolerate fanatics from both sides. 

My question still stands, where would you be when the state of Paletine comes to be, and Iran was never bombed?

I wont waste time on you, when your ramble comes to make sence then you shall see facts from me.

But are you sure you are not yeswecan, Tayo-D you all seem to agree to the same thing and very good in logic, better than those that invented algebra. 

Those same arabs.

davidylan:
1. yeswecan and i are two different individuals . . . you can go on pissing in your pants thinking its one person using dual usernames. There are more important things to life than that.

2. I love the way you ignorant blowhards frame your "questions" . . . this is NOT an issue of whether "palestinians" deserve a state of their own (infact no one BUT THEMSELVES have begrudged them that right) but whether the "palestinians" want a state that doesnt include the obliteration of Israel as a sovereign Jewish state.

The following reasons:

1. When the PLO was founded in May 1964 by an EGYPTIAN national (note he wasnt a "palestinian" then) this was what they wrote in article 24 of the PLO charter - This Organization does not exercise any territorial sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, [or] on the Gaza Strip,

What changed between 1964 and now? Simple! Gaza and the WestBank changed hands from Egypt/Jordan to Israel . . . now ALL OF A SUDDEN the PLO is agitating for those lands as a "homeland"?

FATAH, the military wing of the PLO was founded in Gaza (then under Egyptian control) in 1956 . . . but NOT ONCE do we hear of FATAH fighting Egypt to control Gaza as part of "palestinian" homeland which it now decietfully claims today.

So WHAT EXACTLY was the motive of the PLO in 1964? Well article 19 of its founding charter explains in detail -  The establishment of Israel is fundamentally null and void, whatever time has elapsed ,

So this is NOT about a homeland . . . its about the destruction of Israel.

But of course you can just go ahead and accuse me of "rambling" while providing ABSOLUTELY no substance to your own counter-argument.

I guess with this you have shown a depth of wisdom. What you have just stated up there is like saying Blacks in Africa started existing the day the OAU which is now AU was formed. Or tribes in Nigeria never existed until the 1914 Amalgamation, until independence in 1960.

O boy go siddon abeg. I know fit laugh. 

davidylan:
they will bomb iran, its a matter of time.

davidylan:
What an idiot you are . . . Obama is firm on the fact that Iran MUST NOT have nuclear weapons. The US has the largest stockpile of nukes so just exactly what were you saying by the highlighted? Virtually every other nuclear armed nation is against Iran obtaining nukes . . . it seems you're only worried when it is Israel staking the claim.

You always ramble when it comes to this issue. Honestly please tell me what is your point?

Is it that Palestinians dont deserve a state?

Is it that you love extrimism?

Or its just that you are a war touting individual?

Which of the above? 

All those who would sow a seed of hatred would reap just that.

You know when Yeswecan quoted you in that last thread I was waiting for a grand response. 

Low and behold it was just you. Davidylan.  Nice username though.

The only one that upsets me is Tayo-D.

Im no sabi politics, religion no way, history na zero. 

Even what he writes in Notre Damn thread is quite horrible. 

The guy is a good replica of one of those guys that seat at the back of the room and make a lot of noise.

You know some sort of exciting distraction.  He will be here soon.

I pray he does not throw insults at me. 

Aloy.Emeka:
finally you made me laugh for the first time.

Thats a very good sign that you guys are getting there.

Unfortunately its not working for me and Osisi.

Emeka there is nothing wrong with standing tall, but abeg, dey baf kwanu before you run out.

Osisi ihe ichoro ime kanyi mara now, owu na inaghi akwo aka eri ihe before? Ehhhnnnn Osisi?

Oooosisi how old are you that you had to wait for chi, ka o'gba gi kwo aka before irie ihe?

Inshort Ike Osisi agwu nam.

Mbe oji agbo ugbo? Why agbo nji'a atu mbe? Ify nye kpa agbo warning.

@Negro

Even if a car crash happens right now and there were 2 persons who survived the crash, ask them a week later how it all happened you will not get exactly the same report.

Look I clearly understand your point of view, and am glad you got to understand mine. But there is one thing I have noticed on this politics thread, fools who claim what they dont know abound here, and at the middle of the road they start confesing, however I have read a few posts that gives me much delight. On the whole we have been warned that sheeps should not mix with dogs, otherwise they will learn to bark.

But honestly I still envy fools, "blessed are they, since they are many in number"

The bottom line of the story is Iran wants to be a regional power, and whatever scheme they would use to get it they would use. Isreal and America want to keep there authority, and if curtailing Iran is one of the many ways of getting what they want, they are ready to do just that.

I shall stop here, but I will leave you with events of today. Just to go in prooving my point to those people who would rather blame everything on the quaran or bible. Half knowledge is dangerous, let them not read at all if reading would only lead them in the wrong direction.

Obama 'confident' on two-state solution 

Mr Obama said he was a strong believer in the two-state solution
US President Barack Obama says he is confident that Israel will recognise that a two-state solution is in the best interests of its security.

Speaking after White House talks with Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, Mr Obama again urged Israel to freeze settlement expansion.

Israel has insisted it will allow existing settlements to expand, despite pressure from Washington.

President Obama also said Palestinians must rein in anti-Israeli violence.

For his part, Mr Abbas said he was committed to all obligations under the Mid-East peace plan "roadmap".

However, without a halt to Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank, the Palestinians have said there can be no progress towards peace.

'Israel's interests'

Mr Obama said he was a "strong believer in a two-state solution" and believed Israel would recognise that it was in the best interests of its long-term security.

He said it was important for all countries, but particularly Arab states, to be supportive of the two-state solution.

"I am confident that we can move this forward if all parties are ready to meet their obligations," he said.

Mr Abbas said the need for progress in the stalled process was urgent.

He added that "time is of the essence" - a phrase also used by Mr Obama.

He said that he had shared ideas with Mr Obama based on the 2003 peace plan and the 2002 Saudi peace plan supported by the Arab league.

Under the US-backed 2003 roadmap to peace, Israel is obliged to end all settlement activity, specifically including natural growth.

The plan also requires the Palestinian Authority to crack down on militants who seek to attack Israelis.

President Obama said he had been "very clear" in his meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu last week on the need to "stop settlements".

Mr Netanyahu later said no new settlements would be built but natural growth in existing settlements should be allowed.


In figures: Since Annapolis

The BBC's Justin Webb in Washington says Mr Obama's public reiteration of his view - a day after his Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had laid it out only to have it shot down by the Israeli government - has raised eyebrows in Washington.

Ahead of his visit to the Middle East next week, Mr Obama has put Mr Netanyahu on notice that this White House has a firm agenda of its own, our correspondent adds.

Stalled talks

The White House meeting between the two leaders is part of an effort by the Obama administration to restart stalled peace talks.

Mr Obama has already met King Abdullah of Jordan and Mr Netanyahu. He plans to meet Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in Cairo on 4 June.

Earlier on Thursday, Mrs Clinton said Washington was pushing for a two-state solution in the Middle East as it was in the "best interests" of both the Palestinians and Israelis.

Speaking after a dinner with Mr Abbas, she said: "We believe strongly in a two-state solution."

However, Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev said on Thursday that Israel would continue to allow some construction in West Bank settlements despite US calls for a freeze on its work.

He said the fate of the settlements should be decided in peace talks with the Palestinians.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8072741.stm

@Topic

I once heard of a man who confessed to not knowing much about the topic he engages in, but at the same time would not keep quiet, the other man told him that his problem has turned into a disease, its called Rabies.

Horus:
The so-called Jews never refer to themselves as Hebrews; it's Israeli or Jewish. These words, Jewish or Israeli are not in the scriptures. These terms are used because they know that they are not the original Israelites. That's why they never say that they live in the land Israel. They use the term, the state of Israel. The word "Jew" itself was a nickname for one of the tribes of Judah (Genesis 29:31-35); and other people (Go-Ee, Gentiles), who were not Hebrews, but managed to adopt the way of life of the tribe of Judah.

I get where you are coming from, although it has nothing to do with politics, this could be discussed in History or Religion, which some people who claim things they don't know would never understand.

To help you out, that was why when Moses was drawn from the water he was not referred to as Jew, he was called the son of a Hebrew slave.

Thanks for your point though it goes to show some people should stop engaging in matters they know nothing about.

Umu nna ona aga kwa?

Unu echefuona Ikomi, even Ify and keee kwa aha ya ooooohhhhh. Ehen Osisi

@Yeswecan

I never called you an slowpoke, you could clearly see some people cant read talk little of following world politics. I have pleaded to them to stop typing my username but obviously in their restless void, they would not listen.

Negro,

In politics not to mention International politics, there is no permanent enemy or permanent friend, you shift as events turn out.

Your document is just part of many documents, and if it was written during the cold war era, take it from me, we have turned the page, a new chapter is been written.

But please dont think I dont appreciate your objective view, compared to some slowpoke who would rather come in here to quote one verse of the Quaran, a book which I can swear he has not read a whole chapter of, and claim that is mental rigour. Before you know it he would flash one degree he got from a college, which makes me wonder if farms where cows are reared is the new word for university. What borders me the most is that he has followers, who even act as a mentor to sincere people who are just out to express there views, like Yeswecan.

Iran has from time wanted a domination of the middle east, that has always been there quest. And this aim runs from the tribal fact that from Iran to Iraq and Saudi Arabia there exists a tribe called the Shiate - hope I spelt there name correctly - who believe that since they are greater in number compared to the Sunnis and Kurds even in Kuwait, they should be in power and dictate what happens in this region.

America knows that the rise of the tribe would be a serious game changing event, even the arabs now talking about the Sunnis and Kurds see the Shiates as a threat. But you see America has an intrest in this area, which runs from commercial to political. That is where selling your capitalism comes from.

Bush in his brash decision tilted this balance, because the Iran - Iraq war which lasted 10 years only lasted that long because this same Americans supported Saddam who is a Sunni and would have an intrest in keeping the Shite Iran at bay.

This is why when Saddam invaded Kuwait, when power got into his head and suddenly he forgot where his life line comes from, Bush senior went and chassed him out of Kuwait, and when Bush senior was asked why he did not go into Iraq and topple Saddam, he said there was no exit strategy. No exit strategy simple means there was no immediate replacement for Saddam.

We all now know the good old man was right, Maliki has not susccessfully held Iraq even with all allied forces on ground.

Let me not write a book here I should rather go start a blog before one dim wit comes with a quote in the Quaran.

So all am trying to say Negro is that the game has changed the Arabs in the name of Sunnis and Kurds dont want the Shites in the name of Iran to run there affairs. Unfortunately there is no more Saddam to keep the Shiates in check. But there is still division among the Sunnis and Kurds when it comes to Isreal and Palestine.

Iran knows there is division between Sunnis and Kurds when it comes to Isreal - Palestine, then to secretly advance its course while it makes the Sunnis and Kurds believe the Iranian shiate is on there side, what do they do, they fund groups like Hezzbollah and Hamaz.

So what should the west do? Let Isreal allow the State of Palestine. Sunnis and Kurds and every other minority in the arab state could all speak in one voice against the immediate enemy which is the Iranian shiites. When the Shites in the name of Iran quest to dominate the Arab world is in check, look at the balance maybe you dont see it. Isreal - Sunnis - Shites and Kurds all having a say in the Arab world. Fanatics would have no place either in Muslim Arab or Jewish world - who are mostly not christians in the first place, they believe that christ is yet to come.

So you see no Isreali hardliners, no Muslim fanatics and America could always lead by tapping the tribe that holds it intrest at one time or the other.

Isreal wants to be the major player, they just dont want that balance, although we all know Isreal would always have an edge. Dont ask me how? Find out.

You might have a problem with America ruling the world, but in every house - which our world is one of - there must be a head, and this is what I say to that, if America could keep us all in peace and prosperity, then let America keep ruling the world. Period.

Negro_Ntns:
I think the debate on this topic should take a different theme. I will help with that later on this evening. I have some information you all should read.

I believe a lot of people have bought too deep into the falsehood and fail to see that this middle east peace process is nothing but a strategy for American capitalism. If America was that enthusiastic about peace around the world Apartheid should have ended far much earlier than it did, Kashmir dispute should have been resolved, Nort and South Korea should have reconciled and the DMZ tore down like they did with Berlin wall when East and West Germany reunited. Get out of the darkness and into the floodlight.

Negro do you take alcohol mixed with Purple Gin when you are not posting on this thread. 

This one don carry topic go different area.

What are they selling kwanu, who are they selling to.

I hope this article of yours was not writing during the cold war era, if yes dont post abeg, chapter don change.

Am waiting for this article of yours dear Negro. We no go run. 

These guys are funny. 

@Yeswecan "of course we can" and "we will"
Now I know how you chose your mentor.

How do you guys know the Palestinians dont want a state? 

A man takes your farmland, ur home, puts you in a clustered area. You ask him to give it back, and its just for the fun of it. 

Honestly Yeswecan with all due respect I now understand how you two came in contact. 

The only one I have not figured out is that third one, who would take his time and go wake Mo from the grave and fight him for writing a book.

Negro_Ntns:
On the subject of discussion, the problem is not Palestine or Arabs or Israel, United States is the instigator and the barrier to peace. In 1973, Henry Kissinger suggested in passing to Golda Meir to violate the cease fire agreement and attack Egypt and Syria in the dark of the nights and US will look the other way. They say one thing in public to convince opponent to lay down arms but then scheme for a surprise hit at their time of vulnerability. Any wonder why Ahmadinejjad is cautious about embracing Obama's offer for reconciliation? In fact,since the topic is about Iran and US, Nixon and , again, fucking Kissinger, started the mess trying to bait Shah to face West and away from USSR's courting.

We all know the Americans have there faults but mind you it was in there quest to hold together as a nation and there system of Goverment - Democracy - against the USSR's Communism. We all know where Vietnam led to.

Now where is USSR? There is not even a nation that bears that name anymore. The cold war is over, should we start another one just because some less pragmatic people who were there, when Mo wrote his Quaran and Peter wrote his first book would never see a new dawn but that of events which they know nothing about.

Let me site a short example:

Croats killed Serbs, during the WWII at the incite of Germans. Milosevic unfortunately did not forget, he rose to power, Serbs in turn killed Croats, and so we should go on, with that, and hope that Croats should one day remember and kill Serbs.  So please my dear Negro when would we stop.

Lagosboy:
You dont have to spew religious sentiments here , if you want to discuss the issues raised here move to the religous section - islam for muslims and i will be happy to engage you in a healthy debate as most of it is distortion of facts and misrepresentation. This is a political section and lets discuss the politics of the conflict.

That is all I thought I would get, but someone went on with his Quaran and all Muslim and Christian. Devil and Angel.

It reminds me of when Tony Blair was asked in the House of Commons why he joined the Americans to invade Iraq when he knew Iraq possesed no WMD. He went and I quote:

"There are times when God asks you to do something , "

He did not finish when one MP got to remind Blair

"Sorry Mr Blair we dont do God here"

It does not mean the MP is a Pegan or Atheist, but there are times common sense should prevail.

If we follow the line of thought of these most high, religious people who are holier than Jesus, then the solution to the problem is to wipe out all muslims since they are destined to wipe out christians/Jews. In other words there is no future.

Since you know more than everyone, I suppose your a Jew yourself, God bless you with your views.

Please stop writing my username, its a bit of a distraction you see, so I could attend to reasonable comments.

yeswecan:
Tell me why Muslim countries combined to fight against small Israel in 1948 and 1967.

Since u have choosen to learn.

The modern state of Israel has its religious roots in the Biblical Land of Israel (Eretz Yisrael), a concept central to Judaism since ancient times,[8][9] and the heartland of the ancient kingdoms of Israel and Judah.[10] Following the birth of political Zionism in 1897 and the Balfour Declaration, the League of Nations granted Britain the British Mandate of Palestine after World War I, with responsibility for establishing ", such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions, and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion, "[11] In November 1947 United Nations decided on partition of Palestine into a Jewish state, an Arab state, and a UN-administered Jerusalem.[12] Partition was accepted by Zionist leaders but rejected by Arab leaders leading to the 1947–1948 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine. Israel declared independence on May 14, 1948 and neighboring Arab states attacked the next day. Since then, Israel has fought a series of wars with neighboring Arab states,[13] and in consequence, Israel controls territories beyond those delineated in the 1949 Armistice Agreements. Some international borders remain in dispute, however Israel has signed peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan, though efforts to resolve conflict with the Palestinians have so far only met with limited success.

The limited success you read at the end has been created by hard liners in the Isreali side, whom in other words are fanatics who would not reason objectively.

And I must warn you groups like Hezzbollah, Hamaz and Alqueda are recent compared to hard liners on the Isreali side who always presume they are better than all.

Hezzbollah, Hamaz and Alqueda riding on the wings of Iran are just answers to these Isreali hard liners.

But look we have moved on, times have changed, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanone, Syria, Saudi Arabia have all agreed that Isreal is here to stay. I strongly support the fact that Isreal is here to stay.

But hard liners in Isreal should start admitting that times are changing, we must find peace, there must be a common ground, as Isreal was giving the right to a State, the Palestines who are the Original owners of the land in the first place deserve the right to live.

Yitzhak Rabin agreed to that before his death.

Arafat could not agree less, he flew to the lawn in white house to shake the hands of Yitzhak, whom he actually fought in this war you talk about.

Pope John Paul II of late memory made the same call for peace when he went to pray in a mosque when he visited Jerusalem

President Shimon Peres of Isreal, is calling for the halt in the extension of the settlement in Gaza, so that the world could move towards peace.

The current Pope is clamouring for the Palestinian State.

Obama rings the same bell.

Tony Blair former British Prime Minister say there must be peace in the middle east so that groups like Hezzbollah, Hamaz and Alqueda and there supporters like Almadinajad could be kept in there proper place, dust bin of history. Then and only then could the world face the major problems that threaten us like Climate change, Poverty and Farmine. I forgot North Korea.

All these people cannot be wrong.

But Natanyahu and his hard liners who would rather live in the past would not make peace, the only word they understand is Jewish supremacy and war.

Tayo-D:
@Ikomi,

It appears you don't even have an idea of this issue. With that background, it is very laughable to see you making fun of another person who has shown a better grasp of the issue than you do.

Your premise that the State of Isreal is the problem is absolutely wrong. The problem Islam has with the Jews is not the State, but the very essence of Jewishness. Mohammed called for the killing of all Jews not because they had a State, but because they were Jews. The State is only a modern day excuse by the blood-thirsty hordes of allah to perpetuate and bring to pass, the depraved desire of a blood-thirsty and pedophilic prophet.

Birds of the same feather flock together, I see you and your friend went to the same school of thought. I guess you must have learnt as well. Its just that you two came out with different understanding he said its Religion you say its Jewishness. I hope you will both learn again and consolidate.

Sorry guys am not making fun of the issue its just that I clearly see you guys are not up to speed on the issue, you still have a backward thought on the whole matter. When you are up and running it would show then I would take you two serious.

Just a bit to show you, you dont know what you say. There are Jews all over the world. Hungarian Jews, American Jews, German Jews, British Jews, and Ethiopian Jews.  Lets imagine that Mo and his allies can not reach the Hugarian, American and British Jews. How many Ethiopian Jews have been massacred?

Rauhm Emmanuel is Jewish he is in the Obama administration clamouring for a Palestian state to find a solution to Middle East problems are you more Jewish than him or do you know better than him.

Have you spoken to jews on one-on-one before? Have you been to the synagogue in trying to understand?

Tayo-D:
The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said: The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him! This will not apply to the Gharqad, which is a Jewish tree (cited by Bukhari and Muslim).[/color]

Obviously I don't need to answer any more of your postings. If you could be fundamentally wrong about this, everything else you wrote is totally mute.

Please dont answer again. Hamas are fanatics, and I know fanaticas whatever side they are on dont see things objectively.

How does that your quote come from Mo, if at all it is true? Have you heard of the PLO Mammud Abbass does he want the death of Isreal as well? When Arafat shook the hands of Yitzhak Rabin was he calling for his death or or is there anyone more Islamic than Arafat?

Abeg go and learn with your brother. Am not going to reply you again. I dont like people arguing for the sake of it.

Tornadoz:
If this is all about religion, why are the Arabs not calling for the destruction of Hindu Indian or Buddhist China?

Or even the Vatican City?

Inshort the dudes new name is I learnt.

yeswecan:
Nah.   I disagree with you totally.

Islamofacist, terrorists, radical Islamists, in fact the Islamic religion calls for the destruction of Israel. Geographically, Israel has not affected Iran in any way.  Ahmadinejad is just an advocate for the Muslims that believes Israel should be wiped out.  Ahmadinejad did not even subscribe to a two state solution for Israel and Palestine; he calls for the destruction of Israel.

You think Palestines are the main source for the hatred for Israel, don't you? Well, you taught wrong. I learnt Prophet Mohammed declared Jews the enemy of Muslims before he died. The ultimate goal of Islamic religion is to wipe out all Jews. I also learnt the Prophet Mohammed warned that no Jews should be allowed to step a foot in Saudi Arabia, hence the land is considered sacred.

Quote davidylan"Palestinian" arabs are NOT ELIGIBLE to take up citizenship of other arab countries WHERE THEY ARE LEGITIMATELY BORN but obtain Israeli citizenship if they are born in Israel. . . why? Jordan purged up to 25,000 "palestinians" in 1970 why? "Palestinian" arabs in Lebanon, syria and Jordan are today STILL kept in refugee camps . . . why?
And the problem is Israel? No, it’s the irrational Islamic hate for the Jews.

Iran is part of the Islamic world that calls for the destruction of Israel, so is Morocco and Algeria (Africa Muslim countries) this is about Religion, Islam in its very nature calls for the destruction of Israel.

Go and read about the seven days war when all the Islamic countries came together against Isreal. do you think it was about Palestine?

May 1948–March 1949 Israel fought against Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Holy War Army and Arab Liberation. They were all defeated.


June 5, 1967 – June 10, 1967 Israel defeated Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria.

It is not about Palestine bro, its an ideology.

You let your emotion take over facts. When someone starts using the word I learnt, I mean anyone could wake up from the wrong side of his bed and say I learnt.

Okay lets say we learnt that you know not what you are talking about.

Sorry who is davidylan? No offence meant is he some kind of authority on Middle East issue?

Sorry dude I dont do I learnt, when you have facts then ad be back.


I learnt. 

morpheus24:
succumbed to what, better go check that thread again and see who ran out of ideas

Is that what you call me given you some breathing space?

I don't really get why there should be name calling here. 

Ghana is just trying to protect the intrest of its people, which is normal, what Nigeria should do is raise the stakes for non Nigerians as well, and try to get things right, make the economy work for Nigerians. If the Ghanaians see what they stand to gain in Nigeria, then they would definitely reconsider their policies.

All those who would rather go fight Ghanaians in there own backyard, where were you all when Obasan-Jo was given away Bakasi to the Cameroonians. 

The only reason why Britain went to war with Argentina was because the denizens of Falkland said they would rather be British Citizens. Obasan-Jo gave away Bakassi just because Hague asked him to do so. what a shame. 

@Morpheous24

Lol why the name calling kwanu.

That reminds me did we finish that specie discussion. Or you succumbed

yeswecan:
Pesonally i think Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a toothless dog calling for attention.

The major Problem of the Middle East is the State of Isreal. Like it or not.

They have refused to allow the state of Palestine. The Isrealites are the same people that had no State or place 80 years ago - thanks to the British. They now refuse others a state just because they have the Military might and Financial power.

Immediately a Palestinian State is created, the likes of Alquida ( hope I spelt there name right) and Hamaz would have no reason for existence, and so would those who gain political strength by backing groups like these loose popularity. Ahmadinejad.

Isreal claim the land is theirs just because it is written in the Bible. Even when Joshua took them to the promise land didn't he meet a tribe there, they had to fight to settle.

I believe in the Bible too, but I know that same Bible asked them to do unto others as they would like others to do unto them.

Obama has asked Natanyahu for a State of Palestine, Yitzhak Rabin was murdered for moving towards a peace process.

Until those Isrealites understand that they need to live side by side with orders in peace, and come of that notion that they are the choosen ones, there would be no peace in the middle east. Even Jesus warned them that gentiles would enter the kingdom of heaven before them. I wonder why they wont just come off their dream world.

toshmann:
otele wu ihe ojoo, mana anyi nile huru ya n'anya

Otele wu ebe uwa gburu.

Ynot:
Too much information!!!

Ymannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

How are u doing. Long time no see.

$osisi:
biko unu tinye m n'ekpere
a ma gi m ihe m riri
afo asa gbu go m ebe a
so so nsi nsi k'am n'anyu since today
ikomi oburu na aka gi di ya
i gaghi ala free

You don't mess about with Ikomi.

If you don't answer my question very soon iga ebu toilet bowl na agha'gha' ri.

ifyalways:
i gaghi enyetum

D same thing Ikomi ina aro gi. I gaghi enyetum?

$osisi:
nwa bingo chu kwa gi oso

Osisi Stop speaking to me in parables. Kee ihe okwu'a idere meaniri? Does it mean yes or no?