₦airaland Forum

Zeebuy:
Shame on you for not being able to use your God-given head. They're borrowing and looting your children's future and you're supporting this?

E sure me say you dey support based on tribe

i hope you're okay? Are you unaware that the borrowing is for a specific project that you can verify? If you have money to contribute so that they stop looting your future, go ahead and help us. Stop confirming that you are bereft of ideas.

What are we discussing again oh, no be democracy we want?

PlasmaTV:
Does this make sense? To loan this amount of money for road that some/many Nigerians will never use?

Why not divert it into 24/7 electricity? Or do interstate and Intercity roads?

This country

What sort of mindset is this? How many Nigerians use the rail? How many Nigerians use the second niger bridge? We can ask this question for every road and project carried out by the FG and think one dimension all day. What about the billions already spent and still being spent on electricity? Are you unaware that the project you criticise is both interstate and intercity?

But Obi who claims to have 70% of Nigerians support and winning the election should not be this frightened about ordinary primaries. Is it Egyptians that will vote in ADC?

It's the patriotic thing to do at this juncture. Affliction shall never arise. Imagine the nightmare of being cursed with visionless liars and thieves like those hyenas in collision.

Bola Ahmed Tinubu (wasteful) grew Lagos from 14.6bn to 83bn IGR (470% growth)

Peter Obi (prudent) grew Anambra from 7.4bn to 8.7bn (18% Growth) in 8 years. God must not hate us so.

yinkus6750:
Still baffled at the desperation towards achieving this project. In this trying period, we have to go for such humongous loan towards financing the project. No mention was made on how the repayment will be made. And this is just for a phase and section of the entire project.

Keep on being baffled, is there anything that has not baffled you since your favorite lost?

budaatum:
And the Qur'an. Two of the most wonderful books ever written, as far as concerning Nigerians.

Okay? Same point.

Just like Atiku's important votes came from PDP while his less important votes went to Obi. No wonder it was like we had spiritual issues, these were the dull ones he had around him.

Kukutente23:
Even your link says he wept for the country not because he was losing
Buhari never believed that he lost any election for your info

Lol, you must be ten years old, i believe you very much.

LordReed:
Dude you even wrote it can't still figure it out. Independence from RELIGION not a religion meaning all religions not just the one I was practicing in the past. If I want to talk about Christianity I would have mentioned it by name. Stop trying to dribble your own shadow. LMAO.

Oh, so as i am now, you want to gaslight me that i am not free from Hindu or Buddha or some herbalist. Have your say oh, mr independence.

Hallelujah, at least he's the president today. And doing much better. Wow, people have guts and are so ungrateful. Life
GenZs fit no remember, but as much as i like fPMB, the truth is the truth. It was what it was until Tinubu came to the rescue.

He finished them. Where were you, you latter day "Buharists?"

In essence, Boss Mustapha and co only came to chop where others toiled and coming to rewrite history they were not sent. pic.twitter.com/3NCIeSn9Od

— Souljah (@jeffphilips1) July 10, 2025

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/04/buhari-weeps-over-nations-problems/amp/

Buhari weeps over nation’s problems

Says this is his last outing for the Presidency
=Says he didn’t touch any kobo while in office
=Challenges other candidates now and before to say same
By HENRY UMORU
ABUJA— IT was a solemn moment, Wednesday, as the presidential candidate of the Congress for Progressive Change, CPC, and former Military Head of State, General Muhammadu Buhari, broke down in tears while lamenting the problems confronting the country.

The venue was the International Conference Centre, Abuja.     Buhari broke down in tears    at the  event organised by the party to mark the end of its presidential campaign.  Buhari wept intermittently as he managed to conclude his   12 page address.

Vice presidential candidate of CPC, Pastor Tunde Bakare, former Minister of the Federal Capital Territory, Mallam Nasir El-Rufai, ex- Secretary of Arewa Consultative Forum, ACF, Col. Hameed Ali (rtd.) who were on the high table as Buhari sobbed in between words were also moved to tears as they used their handkerchiefs to control sipping tears.
L-R CPC Vice presidential candidate Pastor Tunde Bakare, CPC Presidential candidate, Gen. Muahammadu Buhari (Rtd) and Former FCT Minister Mallam El-Rufai at grand finale of Buhari’s presidential campaign held at International Conference Centre, Abuja today

Ife Oyedele, a member of the Board of Trustees, BoT of the party, however, wept profusely throughout the period Buhari spoke.

Emotions

The emotions created by Buhari’s sobs inevitably led to the abrupt disruption of the question and answer session with newsmen that was scheduled to follow.

In his speech, Buhari had said that the 2011 contest would be his last pursuit of the presidency stressing  that while he occupied the office of military head of state, he never touched a kobo of public funds. He thus challenged other presidential candidates who had occupied public office to a public attestation of his claim.

“After being head of state, I am sure I could easily have retired into a life of comfort and ease as an elder statesman, as a contractor or as a beneficiary of anyone of the nation’s many generous prebendal offerings.

But that is not what I wish to do with my life. And so, if I don’t take any of these alternative courses of action, it should be clear that I am not in this for the love of office or for pursuit after personal glory or in order to achieve some personal goal. Far be it from me that this should be.

LordReed:
LoLz. We are talking about this thread and you jump to posts from 8 years ago. Guy just accept you have nothing further to say and rest. Bwahahahahahaha!

We're not robots. On this thread, you're talking about your independence from religion, a religion which we both know. i don't have to be in your thoughts to remember.

LordReed:
LoLz. You like to talk as if you know my mind but even when I plainly state something your attempts to dribble your own shadow make you look clownish.

Ahh, what are you talking about? Were your posts here about 8 years ago in your mind. Don't they point to the fact that you used to worship God and Jesus? Is it not on this same platform that we talked about even your family?

Arostar2023:
I guess you guys are battling with the statement, "had never met General Sani Abacha before that encounter"

No battle. "I've never met Abacha, I don't know him."

Peter Olodo² Obi is a F00LISH SHAMELESS HYPOCRITICAL DEVILISH LIAR. pic.twitter.com/fSKxb1LjaW

— Senior Pastor Okezie James Atañi (@Onsogbu) July 8, 2025

This video is what is battling with the statement.

LordReed:
Do I say my religion in the OP?

Hmmmm, i know your religion. Are you a robot?

comruche:
Please on any response let's be logical what's the difference in what he said before and what he is saying now. Even with evidence you still spilling this

"Abacha bang the table and said you (talking to the minister..) this boy (referring to me) chairman Tincan" - Obi

"Abacha bang the table and said you (talking to the minister..) this boy (referring to me) chairman Tincan" - @PeterObi 2022 at NESG.

But see the letter Peter presented na Apapa I dey see pic.twitter.com/tl6ur8TOLk

— Senior Pastor Okezie James Atañi (@Onsogbu) July 9, 2025

This paper he's presenting doesn't show him as chairman of Tin Can but serving at Apapa port, this is an appointment by Abacha. Obi presented it during elections like he was in charge and solved a major problem under Abacha in 2 weeks. He exaggerated his claims.

Then on channels tv, just last week, he stated that he has NEVER met Abacha.

Peter Olodo² Obi is a F00LISH SHAMELESS HYPOCRITICAL DEVILISH LIAR. pic.twitter.com/fSKxb1LjaW

— Senior Pastor Okezie James Atañi (@Onsogbu) July 8, 2025

I had never met General Sani Abacha before that encounter. Our meeting with him

Video 1 I met Abacha (2023)
Video 2 I have never met Abacha. (2025)

The record is very crooked.

DeepSight:
FreeIgboho, Image123, tctrills.
Justify.

The initial word 'discuss' that you used is more appropriate. It's as clear as noon day. Would you rather have the likes of Stalin, Hitler, Abacha and co alive forever? Are people not just hoping for some of our leaders to just die and go?
It's obviously the smarter option given what we all see and experience today of human beings. The same Bible teaches that it's not the end of the dead but there'll be a final judgement in future for all humans, and everyone will go to be with their papa forever. So don't fret, we're all still 'alive'.

budaatum:
I hope you understand that one can talk about the Bible philosophically, which is "in a way that relates to the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence".

Here is atheist me using both the Bible and the Quran to illustrate a point.

You are talking about the Bible nonetheless.

LordReed:
LoLz. You accuse me then start with the shadow boxing. You are just being disingenuous and you know it.

Your religion was about Jesus Christ or God, yes or yes?

DeepSight:
FreeIgboho & Image123.
Justify.

i saw this earlier but wasn't very eager to answer, as experience shows this route usually ends in continuous back-and-forths, which i am not really ready to invest in. But since it's DeepS asking, lemme give it a second thought and respond.
When you say justify, it includes to judge or do justice. i or anyone cannot really justify God in the sense, we're not on the same level obviously. Perhaps, we might try to explain for understanding. i must say though that God is not keen on understanding as much as faith and trust. So a person may understand something about God and still not be profited as someone who doesn't understand but believes. Understanding just adds more kilos to your already big head. Trust me, this above is more important than any other thing that i'm going to say here, though many will prefer what i'm going to say.

In understanding God, there must be PERSPECTIVE. BTW, no one can fully understand God. It's like asking my created car or TV to fully understand me, or a cat to get an A in Physics as this shows/proves understanding. God is far ahead of man and of infinite everything (they call it omni). But in our own little reasoning, i will use some illustrations.
If you take Deut 7or 20, then you should take it with all the 66 books of the Bible in context. You may use a big IF. IF God told Israel to destroy some people, God also created all people from/according to the same Bible. So, God is not man, like dogs and chickens are not humans. Adults are not children, male is not female. There must be context. For example, you must be licensed to give certification, otherwise you just printed a paper. There are spaces where it's gender specific, there are things only adults are to do. It's the same actions but some are allowed to do it, while some are not. What you/we call genocide when you are i do it is not called genocide when God does it. It is called judgement BTW.
A man like you can frisk you, cuff you, and even put you behind bars. It's a crime if i do it and probably kidnapping. It becomes legal if i have the 'right' papers to do it. And you don't even have to be convicted yet before i do it. The action didn't change; the perspective did.
Over 5 billion mobile phones are discarded annually. Why? We made them and we own them, that's why. i cannot come destroy yours though, it can become a problem.
We kill over 6 billion chickens every month, approximately 200 million daily. The US consumes over 750 million chickens every month. Why?
About 60 million people die every year. Most of these deaths are caused by humans, about a million caused by mosquitoes.
IF God created us and owns us, according to the Bible. Does He have the right to kill us? Does He have the right to take any life, even one? What is the moral number to take? Is there one number better than the other? Is there the best way for Him to decide to take it? Who decides these things? i should probably stop here for now. No one should come throwing me a tantrum except maybe DeepS, i am not the source of your frustrations.

tunwumi:
This Trump is obsessed with Nigeria every term. It seems one Nigeria did him sege during he's growing up.

It's not really a Nigerian problem, the US is trying to 'protect' itself globally and tighten immigration processes.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/thousands-of-uae-residents-who-invested-in-second-passports-fear-visa-bans-as-us-uk-tighten-cbi-rules/articleshow/122279518.cms

i give full kundus to the Enugu state government, seems a silent achiever. But they must avoid chestbeating and get to work on profitability and sustainability.

While Lagos is working, albeit slow,others are sleeping and sulking at the FG's door. When Lagos starts to generate same energy as FG, some people will start gnashing teeth and crying marginalization. Everyone got the get set go on the electricity bill at the same time but they don't seem to know what to do with it yet. Waiting for the smart student Lagos to start first, then they copy and complain about how Tinubu used nepotism to increase Lagos electricity.

drstranged:
There are multiple evidences even of kidnapped travellers or villagers or farmers with first hand experience and who survived attacks narrating who their real captors or killers were. They were always unequivocal about them being of Fulani extraction.

Please give three of these multiple evidence. Thanks

Even she herself attest to the fact that her well deserved suspension doesn't stop her from reaching out to constituents through the provision of democratic dividends. She claims to be doing that despite the court saying that she can't. i wish her an indefinite suspension. The senate is doing great without her theatrics.

i really hope people disregard that uncle and brother of lies. A liar is most dangerous and desperate person to have around.

In all of this, i really pity Soludo. That man has his work really cut out for him. He can't even tell them the truth at home as they are deaf to it. They rather listen to that import and export mourner, the defeated elders and the cursed radio station.

drstranged:
This is because the real killer herdsmen are not being hunted down and arrested. You're drawing your conclusion from just petty thieves and delinquents who are arrested in the market places and streets

Interesting take, do you have any evidence to this or it's just more convenient for you? Every household has a phone, but none of these accusers and accusations have these allegations on camera or recording. Just postulations based on what lamidi kanu and his mod says.

We said these things but the truth is very bitter. It's a lot of ipod propaganda. You'd notice many of those people listening looked very unhappy, uneasy and disappointed to hear the truth. Even though they are abroad, likely educated and rich. Now compare the crudity of the average poor and less educated minds that have been spoonfed by that devilish station and its defeated, complicit elders.
It's the same story we see in Benue. All the names of those involved are Benue and even Bible names, not Fulani names. Not saying that herdsmen don't have their own issues, but labeling every criminal and crimes under them is both intellectually lazy and deceptively wicked.

These monitoring spirits know everything that Tinubu is doing and will do except the most obvious truth, that Tinubu will defeat all of them in every election.

DeepSight:
If that was the case it would not be presided over by a clown.

Fortunately, the thread is not about who presides but the action of a drama queen. Who presides is determined constitutionally and democratically, and clowns are welcome to compete to be fair.