₦airaland Forum

Wow. Just wow.

MURIC finally has something that i agree with, 2025 looks promising.

Buhari has not and will probably never forgive IBB for this. Funny thing is that all the past leaders and present think that they did what was best for Nigeria. Even Abacha sends us some cash once in a while.
Apparently, God didn't answer that anthem prayer to guide our leaders right, or help our youths know the truth.

LordReed:
Soft drinks and water are not the same. People need water, they don't need soft drinks. You are not in a culture that celebrates Harry Potter that's why you think it doesn't compare.

Jesus allegedly making himself a comparison to water means nothing. That fact that billions of people have lived and continue to live without him shows he is not needed.

i have consistently stated that people need God or a god, meaning that through the thousands of years and billions of humans, people always find God or a god to worship. All over the world, humans find a need to devote worship to something or someone to be "fulfilled". This will continue forever because humans are made to worship. Up to you to worship the true God/Jesus.
All over the world, billions of people take drinks for refreshing, maybe water or tea, or soft drinks, or coffee, or other drinks. You don't need a culture to drink something for refreshing. Harry Potter doesn't compare, even its actors and directors probably don't care to watch it every year. Same can't be said for the universality of drinking or worship. Tomorrow is Sunday again, billions are going to drink and worship. No one cares about the few thousands that'll probably watch or read Harry Potter and drop it forever like i did probably over a decade ago.

mycupoftea:
We can read the whole print brother, not just the sections you highlighted, which still doesn't support your sentiments
.

No sentiments, what i highlighted were from the book not mine. You are free to highlight and really show us where IBB debunked the coup narrative. Rooting for you, you can do this.

DeepSightZ:
Where?

It doesnt say so.

It says "privileges of GCFR" and not "privileges of ex president."

You are the one assuming that since the rank has only been given to ex presidents, then its privileges are the same as those of ex presidents.

If they were the same, then MKO's name and picture will be in every list or line up of ex presidents of Nigeria.

Okay oh.

jaephoenix:
What has god done for you, that he's not doing for atheists who don't believe in him?

He maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. Isn't God wonderful?

jaephoenix:
What exactly does man need god for?

Who knows?

DeepSightZ:
It is still not the same as being posthumously recognised as a President of Nigeria. And I dont believe the privileges are the same.

It says so.

LordReed:
Oh I'm not laughing because his outfit is funny.

Okay again

LordReed:
Exactly, no one needs a god just like no one needs Harry Porter. It's also like soft drinks, no one needs soft drinks but we consume billions of litres of it annually.

No one needs God or a god but billions continue to find God or a god, let's face the reality. People need soft drinks because of refreshment of the human body and the need to take a drink. It's wrong to say no one needs soft drinks, the data says otherwise. i've heard of and met people who cannot do with drinking something, either tea, coffee, soft drinks or just plain water. Harry Potter cannot walk that line. Little wonder Jesus compared Himself to water and the Rock that gives water.

LordReed:
We don't need any gods just like we don't need Harry Porter. We like stories but stories are in no way comparable to oxygen.

Billions of people since the creation of man have needed God or a god in their lives and will continue to. No one needs Harry Potter or at least i never met one.

LordReed:
Oh there's quite a bit to laugh about about actually. For one, the guy looks nice in his wedding outfit. LoLz.

It's a normal wedding outfit. Would be probably funny if he wore a white bride gown.

spencekat:
The period he won election till the period of the start of interim government.

Okay ohhh. Hope Tinubu notes your suggestion. Doesn't add anything significant not already added though imho.

LordReed:
Thanks for the compliment.

We can dream but I doubt religion will ever go away. Humans want to believe in the divine so badly they literally invented gods.

It's actually the other way round, man needs God. You cannot say that humans want to need oxygen so badly, it's a bad joke.

LordReed:
My cynicism is pulling me in different directions so I am just going to laugh. Bwahahahahaha!

He wasn't more born-again than you, or was he? Nothing to be cynical or laugh about. Sinners get saved every other day, and believers also backslide every other day, no?

spencekat:
Put his name as a past president.

Where? From when to when?

Iceberg3:
Very convenient for you living your lives based on assumptions that suits your narrative and I am very sure that you've even assumed in your mind that I am Igbo.

Whenever circumstances makes us bring up 2014 and GEJ up,you are always quick to tag us Igbos and that the Niger Deltans have moved on but we can't help but why you people cannot just do same!!!
How on earth can you say let bygones be bygones and you are still adding petrol to fire!!!!!!

And again Nigerians had issues other than this to tackle in the 1980s and 1990s and early 2000 but all of a sudden power went to the SS and from then till now,you people suddenly remembered that the Igbos are your problems in life!!!!!!


I really smh

i really don't understand these lamentations and tribal diatribe. i showed that IBB DID NOT debunk any Igbo coup narrative. It is a LIE to say that IBB debunked it and i attached the proof from his book. You refused to read it but claimed you have far more important and better things to do with life. It's more important for you to believe a lie? Or what are you doing on NL and opening the thread reading through people's government since your life is so important to care? i did not say anything about Igbos in the post, i simply said the truth that Rufai(a non-Igbo i think) is lying about IBB(a non-Igbo).

spencekat:
GCFR was only posthumously awarded.

Ahh, what more should be done? He also changed democracy day to June 12, should he have resurrected him?

DeepSightZ:
Yinka is dead and secondly PMB only posthumously awarded MKO GCFR. He did not recognize him as a former president which is what the writer is asking (and I support).

Sorry i mixed up the name. GCFR stands for "Grand Commander of the Order of the Federal Republic," which is the highest national honorary award in Nigeria, exclusively conferred on presidents. The certificate in the below link clearly shows that he enjoys all the privileges of a GCFR.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/06/buhari-formally-confers-gcfr-abiola/

Sheuns:
Between a 25 year old new army officer and one Baba Kamoli that is no where near government then, whose talk will hold more water?

Who is Baba Kamoli?

Evil communications probably caught up with him.

i thought it was all over the country, or human rights are respected by the police in other parts? Help me understand.

MakindeHassan:
You people are obsessed with this narrative. Let it rest.

For the coup to be an Igbo coup, there would have had to be a plan and connivance with Igbo leaders and civilians. There was no such plan and Igbos woke up to the news like everyone else.

It is important to note that even Ojukwu and Ironsi were not carried along and played important roles on squashing the coup. Ojukwu called Nzeogwu several times from Kano ordering him to stand down.

You also have to look into Nzeogwu’s personal character and read about him. He saw himself as a revolutionary and had this hot headed character that didn’t take instructions too well. He even continued to carry out daring unauthorized ambushes during the war which ultimately led to him being killed.

In Obasanjo’s book he mentioned that Nzeogwu tried to convince him to join the coup a year earlier. Nzeogwu and Obasanjo were close friends. Obasanjo brushed it off and declined. If it was an Igbo affair why would he be recruiting non Igbos.

Apart from the majors, it has been established that more officers were involved. More officers of other ethnic extraction but our selective history will only focus on one segment.

Let’s be fair to the Igbos abeg and move on from this rubbish. Germany and Britain almost blew themselves off the planet in world war two but have moved on and working together. You don’t see them trading blames and focused on the past but black man in Nigeria cannot move on and progress from something that happened in 1967 and you all wonder why we are backward.

If you read me carefully, i simply showed that IBB didn't debunk anything and was not in a position to. i can't help you if you cannot see this.

yinka, Buhari has already done what you asked since 2019 if i remember correctly.

Iceberg3:
Please I have far more important and better things to do with my life than be lamenting and crying over a tribe everyday,every year,thank you very much

Of course, very convenient to remain in your bias.

PHIPEX:
You questioned the reasonableness of a 25yeard old soldier to give an account of a coup. When Gowon was just 32 at the Head of state so stop twisting it.

He stated his age but you questioned his sense of judgement

i never questioned the reasonableness, i simply stated his age because he referred to it himself. He said "I admit that my position here may be the naive insights of an unsuspecting young officer who viewed events from a distance!"

naive
unsuspecting
young
distance

i quote these words directly from ibb.

Iceberg3:
You said"let bygones be bygones"and yet posted this!!!!!

You Nigerians are horrible people

i posted it because your friends like Rufai are trying to twist things when the book is there for anyone to read. Why do you never care about the facts? IBB never debunked the Igbo coup narrative. Kindly read the screenshots of the book that i posted again.

PHIPEX:
How old was Gowon when he became the Head of state?

How old were those who carried out the coup at the time?

For God's sake, can't you read? i did not say it! The man said it himself in his book. i attached it but you probably did not care to read. Somehow, i cannot attach images again but you can check it again on my post that you quoted. Or get the IBB book(SMH). It is on page 40 and i quote again.

I admit that my position here may be the naive insights of an unsuspecting young officer who viewed events from a distance!

PHIPEX:
Yes, we should.believe you that have never won an army cap in your life.

I should believe your Lagos Ibadan journalists that runs at the sound of a banger instead of IBB

Why on earth do you need to believe me when the man wrote it himself and i attached it?

tctrills:
A 25 years old officer who lived the experience and eventually rose to become the head of the army.

These are far beyond the views of a 25 years old kid. It's the view of one of the last remaining men who experienced everything, spoke and learnt from many who were involved one way or the other. His experience is just too much to be seen as the views of a 25 years old kid.
Again, how old were all the other major military actors in the 60s.
Lastly, we can finally get an unbiased narrative after almost 60 years.

Did you read the slide that i posted from the book at all? He himself said it. Page 40 of his book says and i quote "I admit that my position here may be the naive insights of an unsuspecting young officer who viewed events from a distance!"

accused? She stirred trouble. Who goes screaming about how her constituency is in trouble because of a mere change of seating arrangement that happened to many?