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JuanDeDios:
Funny.

Anyway, here’s what you’re ignoring in your combative response to me.

1. Not knowing something (being ignorant, as you call it, is not bad of itself) as long as you’re willing to change your position when the right information comes. The fact you don’t know what is called a FAIR COMMENT in political discourse really puts you across as someone who’s not smart at all. Like I’ve explained to you before, if someone opens a thread to say, “JuanDeDios embezzled money.” If you say, “The police should investigate him well and prosecute him and I hope he rots in jail if found guilty.” That’s a fair comment. If someone later says on the thread that no embezzlement occurred, you may say “Oh, ok. Thank God no money is missing.” That’s a fair comment too. The fact you don’t know what is called a FAIR COMMENT in political discourse really puts you across as someone who isn’t very clever.

When you are ignorant, don't be so bold to attack or judge. Wisdom calls for hearing from the two sides, not judging from one sided accounts and an ignorant standpoint. Nothing fair about ignorance.

2. Your position that once Mr Umahi called for an autopsy, everyone else should close their mouth and go home and sleep makes no sense. As long as the autopsy is yet to be carried out, the calls are fine. So your derisive response to Sowore (an activist who’s consistent in intervening in these types of cases, whether it’s Umahi or not) remains unjustified.

My position is not that everyone should close their mouth, but that people should not politicise or do content creation with sensitive issues. Death of someone should not be a gig or side hustle to politicize. Sowore made the call and made folks like you assume that he's calling it first AGAINST Umahi. While the truth is that Umahi has made the same call days before, and still said it on video. All available on the media, but you refused to find out before commenting. Sowore knows your type are many, that's why he made the call in a media trial.

3. If Mr Umahi has called for an autopsy, that is good and should be acknowledged. But the call does not automatically mean he’s innocent. If I were Mr Umahi and someone died in my house and I have something to hide, here’s what I’d do. I’ll visit the family, put on my most sympathetic face, and condole with them. I’ll tell them it’s an unfortunate incident. ‘I cared for their daughter and would never have done anything to harm her. That day, she suddenly started convulsing and my efforts to revive her failed. I then called a doctor but she died before the doctor arrived. Well, God gives and God takes and we can’t question Him. Here’s $100,000 to take care of the children.’ I’ll also promise to pay for university studies abroad for their remaining kids. Then I’ll tell them that it’s better for everyone if the corpse is buried quickly. Political detractors calling an autopsy are just troublemakers who should not be given a chance. So they should retrieve the body immediately and bury it so that everyone can move on from the unfortunate incident and politicians will not use it against the president. Then if any cheeky journalist thrusts his yeye mic in front of my face, I will say that, “Yes, there must be an autopsy. I have nothing to hide.”

It is not IF Mr Umahi called for an autopsy, the language clearly shows you don't even believe, even with video and picture evidence. There is no where i have stated Umahi's innocence, you see that you are missing the point because you are not listening to the message but the messenger. The point i made was that the opposition political parties like ADC and Sowore are fiddling with you by making it look like Umahi is hiding something, Umahi is guilty and mysterious deaths happen with him, and autopsy MUST be done. They know folks like you will conclude this in ignorance.
As for your conjured assumptions, what happened is out there with verifiable facts. Umahi is not your next door neighbour or hostel mate. He is a two time governor, former senator and current minister of the country. What that implies is he cannot do things as privately as you imply. He doesn't live in a one bedroom apartment where the lady died and he quickly hid it before coming outside. Politicians of his calibre have big houses and mini estates where they might not even know everyone there. The said lady has family and has a neighbour alibi. They have both given their statements. Umahi has asked for an autopsy, in fact it is her family that doesn't want an autopsy. i'll help you get that and attach seeing you're super lazy and ignorant. In Nigeria, when people die that young, usually, the family want to quickly bury and move on. In many cases, the parents are not allowed to even see the dead or be at the burial. So, to some extent, i understand the father, nonetheless, those are the verifiable FACTS on ground. No need assuming or quickly judging when there are clear facts.

4. The fact that you automatically defend these types of things show that something has horribly gone wrong with you. I doubt you still recognize yourself when you look in the mirror these days. Watching you lately has been like watching evolution in reverse. Evolution says ape turned to man. But your case?

Anyway, here’s my own call: Let there be an autopsy. The calls will stop after an autopsy has been done, not after Mr Umahi has called for one.

Again, i have NOT defended anything here. i have not said that Umahi is innocent, neither have i said that he is guilty. i have not said that Umahi should not be investigated, prosecuted or punished. What i have said is that politicians like ADC, and in this thread particularly, Sowore should not turn this into a gig or side hustle. Umahi has already called for an autopsy. Let's hope that an autopsy is carried out. Your likes are saying Umahi should be in prison, he should not be walking free, he should resign. Yet, i am the one accused of defending. SMH

Protect Nigerians from attacks makes complete sense. The president is the father of the nation, not just Christians. Imagine if someone was asking for favors for muslims alone or some other religion.

kalvoken:
Hand fof esua but voice of Jacob.

Which worker are you talking about? A worker in his residence or where?

Would this have been yiur submission if it was a common man on the street?

There's no law that detains people for death. mr common man.

When it sounds too good to be true, be very careful.

Eriokanmi:
You just wasted your energy defending this evil for nothing, as if you don't know these people again. Just rest. They can do even worse and still defend it or cover up. Only God can judge them.

i didn't even defend anyone. Only asking if Sowore is taking a gig. Asking people not to politicize issues or carry out media trials is not a defense. It's commonsense justice and level ground.

chatinent:
Can we now proceed to execution after the forfeiture? Because it's always initial gragra on the news then a duplex in kuje prison with soft landing and waybilled escorts and wardens as security details.

If a common thief can be burned alive for stealing 5-Alive, Malami who's stolen billions should be executed by a firing squad.

i have been saying something similar recently about terrorists and this type of criminals but i was accused of politics. SMH.

kalvoken:
The man that a dead body was found in his house, how come he's not being detained?


This country is turning to a tom and jerry cartoon o

You're derailing the thread. Find facts, use them. There's no law that detains people for death. Did she die in his room? A worker died and the boss is asking for an autopsy, her father says no autopsy. As a judge, you arrest the boss. SMH

Kalashnikov49:
The language here is forfeiture.

When they talked about "forfeiture" in Tinubu's drug case, they told us the new and revised meaning of the word.

Tinubu is a SOLID FAILURE and Kriminal

You should find out forfeiture due to what. Is forfeiture the punishment for drugs in any country?

Were they really his properties? If he stole them, they don't belong to him.

48 of them will be handed over to the federal government following today's court ruling.

1. Luxury Duplex at Amazon Street, Plot No. 3011 Within Cadastral Zone, A06 Maitama; File No: AN enhancement 11352, which was purchased in December 2022 at N500, 000, 000.00 (value after enhancement at N5,950,000,000).

2. Two Winged Large Storey Building Situate at No. 3, Onitsha Crescent, Area 11,Garki, Cadastral Zone, A03, Abuja (formerly Harmonia Hotels Limited), FCT, which was purchased Dec. 2018 at N7,000,000,000.

3. Plot 683, Jabi District, Cadastral Zone B04, Comprising of a five storey Building (Now Luxurious Meethaq Hotels Ltd, Jabi with 53 rooms/suites), which was purchased in Sept. 2020 at carcass level at N850,000,000 with additional N300,000,000 to take possession (value after completion N8,400,000,000).

4. Property No. 3130 within Cadastral Zone A04, Asokoro District, FCT, Abuja, Comprising Terraces, purchased in January 2021 at N360,000,000.

5. Property No. 3 Rhine Street, Maitama, Abuja (Meethaq Hotels Limited, Maitama With 15 ROOMS), which was purchased in February 2018 at N430,000,000 (current value after rehabilitation is N12,950,000,000).

6. Plot No. 1241B, Asokoro District Zone (No. 11A Yakubu Gowon Crescent) AsokoroDistrict, which was purchased in July 2021 at N325,000,000.

7. Shop No. C82 Citiscape — Shariff Plaza, Plot 739 Cadastral Zone A07, Aminu Kano Crescent, Wuse Il, FCT, Abuja, which was purchased in March 2024 at N120,000,000.

8. No. 4 Ahmadu Bello Way, Nasarawa GRA, Kano, which was purchased in December 2022 at N300,000,000.

9. Plot 157, Lamido Crescent, Nasarawa, GRA, Kano, purchased in July 2019 with no specific amount stated.

10. A Plaza, Commercial Toilets, Laundering, Warehouse Tanks Adjacent to Birnin Kebbi Market at N100 million.

11. 100 Hectares of l;and Along Birnin Kebbi, Jega Road, which was purchased in 2020 at N100,000,000.

12. Four Bedroom Bungalow Gesse Phase, Birnin Kebbi, which was purchased in 2023 at N101,000, 000.

13. Shops Nos. A36, B3 Vegas Mall, Wuse 2, Abuja, which was purchased in July 2023 at N158,000,000.

14. No. 26, Babbi Drive, Bua Estate, Abuja, purchased in 2022 at N136,000,000.

15. No. 27, Efab Estates Avenue, 5th Avenue, 59th Crescent, Gwarimpa, Abuja, purchased in January 2016 at N120,000,000.

16. Four Bedroom/ 2 Rooms Boys Quarters at No. 10B, Doka Crescent Abakpa GRA, Kaduna, purchased in January 2018 at N40, 000, 000.00.

17. Plot No. 13, Ipent 7 Estate, Karsana District, Abuja, purchased in June 2018 at N85,000,000.

18. A Bedroom Duplex & Boys Quarters at No. 12 Yalinga Street, Off Adetokunbo Ademola Crescent, Wuse Il, Abuja, purchased in Oct. 2018 at N150,000,000.

19. Two Warehouse Shops B40 And B46, Wuse Market, Abuja, purchased in July 2020 at N50,000,000.

20. Twin Houses at Zone E, Apo Legislative Quarters, Cadastral Zone B01, Plot 14014, Gudu District, Abuja, was purchased between February and May 2017 at N250,000,000.

Properties acquired by Khadimiyya for Justice & Development Initiative at the Academic Garden City, Birnin Kebbi, sold by the Federal Housing Authority Mortgage namely.

21, 22, and 23. Nine units of three bedroom, bungalow, three units of two bedroom bungalow, and 5.4 hectares of land, which were purchased between February 2023 and September 2023 at N187,000,000, among other assets listed in the schedule.

RAYHAAN UNIVERSITY, KEBBI STATE

24. Rayhaan University Permanent Site -N56,000,000,000.00

25. Rayhaan University Temporary Site -N37,800,000,000.00

26. Rayhaan University Third Site - N2,450,000,000.00

27. Rayhaan University Vice Chancellor - N490,000,000.0

RAYHAAN AGRO ALLIED FACTORY IN KEBBI STATE

28. Factory Buildings -N4,200,000,000.00

29. Factory Machines and Plants Units -N10,500,000,000.00

30. Factory Mosque - N2,450,000,000.00

31. Rayhaan Mill Staff Quarters - N1,487,500,000.00

32. Rayhaan Bustan Building - N3,150,000,000.00

AZBIR ARENA KEBBI STATE

33. Azbir Hotel - N10,325,000,000.00

34. Printing Press - N1,050,000,000.00

35. Gallery - N581,000,000.00

36. Gardens - N392,000,000.00

37. Mosque - N252,000,000.00

38. Azbir Clothing - N350,000,000.00

39. Azbir Pharmacy and Supermarket - N175,000,000.00

OTHER PROPERTIES HELD IN KEBBI STATE

40. Al-Afiya Energy Tanker Garage opposite Rayhaan University Health Centre, along Sani Abacha Bypass Road, Birnin-Kebbi - N2,450,000,000.00

41. Rayhaan Model Academy -N11,200,000,000.0

42. Rayhaan Primary and Secondary School - N8,750,000,000.00

43. Rayhaan Security House, off Sani Abacha Bypass, Birnin Kebbi - 245,700,000.00

44. Rayhaan Radio along Sani Abacha, Bypass Road, Birnin, Kebbi - N78,750,000.00

45. Uncompleted 2 Storey Complex Plaza located opposite Central Motor Park, (Eastern Park) Birnin Kebbi - N665,000,000.00

46. Amasdul Oil and Gas Ltd filling station Structure along Sani Abacha Bypass, Road, Birnin Kebbi near Jambali Automobile Workshop, Birnin Kebbi - 1,050, 000,000.00

47. Malami Support Organization Building - 210,000,000.00

48. ADC Kadi Malami Foundation Building - N56,000,000.00

49. Abubakar Malami SAN's House GRA - N350,000,000.00

50. Abubakar Malami SAN's House Behind Mobil - N490,000,000.00

51. Abdulaziz Malami (First Son's House) at Gesse Phase II in Birnin Kebbi - N1,659,000,000.00

52. Abiru-Rahman Abubakar Malami (Second Son's House) at Gesse Phase II in Birnin-Kebbi - N2,989,000,000.00

PROPERTIES IN KANO

53. Assets of Zeennoor Hotel at Kabuga Satellite Town, off Gwarzo Road, Kano with 131 rooms - N11,200,000,000.00

54. Zeennoor Mosque at Kabuga, Satellite Town, off Gwarzo Road, Kano - N84,000,000.00

55. Zeennor Old Hotel Building -N280,000,000.00

56. Rayhaan Hotel, Kano Located at Plot 27/28 Opp-Aminu kano Teaching Hospital, Southern Kano (Land And Luxurious Building of more than 50 rooms, with appurtenances- N2,240,000,000.00

57. Rayhaan Gym, Kano House Comprising of a Storey Building Opposite Rayhaan Hotel - N1,225,000,000.00

https://x.com/i/status/2077389999725535276

Like Mourinho "I prefer really not to speak. If I speak, I am in big trouble. In big trouble. And I don't want to be in big trouble."

My people go say na scam or vote buying, or why celebrate road. Same people dey cry like say dem see Micheal Jackson if Otti do 3km road oh or 'smart' school.

PRESIDENT TINUBU IS INTENTIONALLY REBUILDING THE SOUTH EAST

I can’t contain my joy and that of my people regarding the great news from DIKESIMBA Anambra; DIKESIMBA NDIGBO, President Bola Ahmed Tinubu, GCFR!

Certainly, President Tinubu has a date with history, and even more so with the Southeast. He continues to demonstrate his avowed commitment to orchestrating the reconstruction of the Southeast, thereby finally healing the wounds of the Civil War. There are several unprecedented, foundational infrastructural rebirths going on in the Southeast at the moment. We will celebrate the full list later….

But the news from him today is history in itself. I met the President on Wednesday, July 1. The next day, the Hon. Minister for Works and Infrastructure (our own ever-productive and beloved Sen. Dave Umahi) contacted me to send him the details of the roads we had repeatedly discussed. On Friday, July 3rd, I sent him the following two roads:

1. Otuocha–Anam–Abaji (Kogi), about 108km to be dualized; and
2. Oba–Nnewi–Uga–Ihube (Okigwe Junction), connecting Anambra/Imo to the Enugu–PH Road, which also passes through Abia, about 150km to be dualized.

Today, 15th July, I received a message from the Min. of Works that the President has graciously approved both roads for “design and procurement”! What can I say? These two roads constitute critical game-changers for the Southeast, South-South and North Central. The man who tamed the Atlantic Ocean in Lagos is certainly redefining politics, and the Southeast won’t be the same again! For me personally, this is why politics makes sense to me: working collaboratively and building alliances to achieve concrete results that improve the lives of the people.

Thank you, ASIWAJU! History will be kind to you!!

Chukwuma Charles Soludo
Governor, Anambra State

Rebuke:
What's yhur point? Be straightforward.

The only sensible comment that quoted me. Because of you, i will edit my comment with some more commentary. i never knew such an harmless post will trigger many.

SeverusSnape:
Image123 is hustling for his 30K o. Just leave am o

Those ones will call black white for that drug baron in aso rock. Hunger dey make men do things.

No proof of anything you just said, imagine? Imagine going to hell for false accusations.

musa234:
All your own na politics. Without politics you go turn pauper, na why you don sell your soul cos of politics.

Evidently, most of you don't know what politics or politicizing is. It means to act strategically to gain or keep power, influence, or personal advantage, often instead of focusing on what is fair, honest, or best for everyone.
Sowore is the one turning this to a political show, because he's aware that Umahi already asked for an autopsy. So him coming aluta style asking for autopsy and doing media trial is the politics. It's why i need to ask if he's doing gig or side hustle.

Igbophobia:
Is it true you used to be a Christian before satan started awarding you some big big contracts?

How far with your soul?

No.

hegelian:
I fear who no fear you data Bois guys.. You have all lost your humanity cos of tinibu.. Would have been saying this if the person as president is not someone you like?? You have all lost your humanity that you don't care about anyone provided it affect tinubu directly or indirectly.. God will save us all from you

Lolz, my reply had nothing to do with Tinubu or Tinubu in mind. There you go politicising. It has everything to do with Sowore.
If you are not ignorant, you'd know that Umahi had already asked for an autopsy on this days ago and even went to court on the matter yesterday. So Sowore suddenly coming like voltron with his aluta approach is why i asked if he's doing side hustle. Because he knows there's already a call for autopsy.
i still asked earlier why there was no tangible report about the death apart from sensationalism.

JuanDeDios:
No. Na oversabi dey worry am. Instead of letting the dead rest. What sensible person inquires into death in a politician's house? A whole honourable minister!

As usual, you are ignorant and blissful about it. Dave Umahi had earlier asked for an autopsy on it which was reported but you seem unaware of. Sowore coming with nsogbu aluta demands is the politics you cannot see, why i asked if he also took this for a gig.

voortrekker966:
Lol. Are you against knowing the real cause of the lady's death? Say your opinion with your full chest.

No. Actually, i earlier asked on another thread for a proper report instead of sensationalism.

https://www.nairaland.com/8709910/mary-habilas-burial-announced-family#140033559

No report about what killed her apart from she died naked? Journalism, SMH.

Dave Umahi has already asked for an autopsy before this which i am aware of but i was referring to our anyhow journalism and content creation.

Afrobasic:
This nonentity is always on standby to defend his evil masters.

Such a sad life you are living. I recall you used to fight tooth and nail to defend the Christian faith in the decade past. Now look at you playing a tool for criminals - a massive fall from "Grace".

Glad to hear that, hope you got some grace? Ask God for wisdom.

anonimi:
Is this what following a balablu bulaba town hall clown has reduced your intellect to?

Does everyone who calls for autopsy to resolve suspicious deaths, have to be doing autopsy side hustle

Duh, Umahi called for it first.

Sowore dey do autopsy side hustle too?

i had many unusual mentions on the original post above, so i will reply here. Somehow, i had been aware of the chain of events following the unfortunate incident.
i watched Umahi on X about 3days ago asking for an autopsy. Couldn't find the X post but it's on this YouTube link, from 10mins mark onwards.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2D1-i3xKOc?si=q_T3AetvBoK--y32

It was also on different news platforms.

https://x.com/i/status/2076315643968692618

https://x.com/i/status/2076734288905519210

https://x.com/i/status/2075882863640133880

i myself had earlier written on another thread asking for a more formal report instead of sensationalism about the lady dying naked.

Later in the day, i started to observe a pattern with ADC and other opposition posts taking the matter up.
https://x.com/i/status/2077349873330843757

So when Sowore's thread followed in his aluta style, where he has already written the verdict before the investigation is concluded using allegations and speculations as convictions. i knew they had turned it into a social media trial which is why i asked if Sowore is also doing gig/side hustle with autopsy.

Any attempt at hurried burial by her family must be resisted. Ms. Mary Habila died with blood flowing from her mouth, which suggests that her death is unnatural.

There have been several allegations of mysterious deaths surrounding Umahi, including those of 5 NELAN Engineers that remain unsolved to date.

Sowore knows all these have already been done, it's on social media. But chose to throw in speculations and allegations, what we call salt and pepper.

Kukutente23:
Lol
Clown
Who are you

Mentor to your boss's mentor.

Kukutente23:
APC_419

Give it to your supervisor and mention me.

ogolemati:
you don't have any choice

That's how winners roll. You have had the losing choice since 2015 dear.

Kukutente23:
What are you saying?

Is this your means of defending the rubbish you wrote?

Ok she died in your arms

Do you feel better now?

Zone bees sef

Don't worry, i can help you ask for a raise. What is your batch number?

ogolemati:
and this

i will vote him a thousand times over, kapish?

kullozone:
Why are you guys so scared of a revolution?
Una too like power. You just want everyone to remain calm while suffering because you don't want lose power.
Well, normally the government thrive on suppressing the people.

Scared of revolution? Because it hasn't worked in decades in Africa, duh. You want your land as the next Somalia, Libya, Sudan, Syria, Yemen, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh or what? You need a shop to loot or a street light to damage? Or you think angels take over after hostility? Nah, i know Nigerians too much than to be fooled into looking for some messiah coming to change things.

ogolemati:
what of this one .I see agbero chairman said many things

Video?

Good one. Idle guys, get something doing instead of complaining and contemplating revolution.

Make all these governors sha make extra room for recruitment of state police. No be there we go dey hear super story about no money to recruit. Small Taraba and Ekiti dey recruit now oh.

Kukutente23:
You mean journalists are supposed to perform the autopsy?

School no be scam true true

And he's even shaking his head

Autopsy is different from saying someone fell down and died, died in his sleep, died after brief illness, had an accident, was killed, etc. It is everything you have to oppose to justify your pay.

UrVillageChief:
So Adeyemi’s father can be arrested even when investigation hadn’t commenced but Gbaja can not be suspended (not even arrested o) while the investigation is ongoing, right? This is a big disaster because Nigeria seems to have more educated illiterates than sane minds.
How is suspending an accused person the same as arresting them?
In a sane society, Gbaja would be arrested even if it’s true that Adeyemi was an imposter because how incompetent can you be for an imposter to penetrate your government for 3 good years? You still haven’t answered the question every sane person has been asking, how did this fantom agency find its way into the Nigeria’s national budget for 3 solid years? You all need to realize that not every one of us is unlettered and my support for you doesn’t and will never erode my intelligence.
Either way, Gbaja deserves suspension or imprisonment. Imprisonment if Adeyemi’s “fake” agency is actually real and suspension if Adeyemi is truly an imposter because how on earth was a nobody able to penetrate a whole national government to the point of having an office in the presidential complex and getting allocations for 3 years.
Either way, Gbaja is heavily implicated but being the blind supporter that you are, you can’t reason that far.

Adeyemi's father was not arrested, Femi Falana said that. And Adeyemi's father is directly related to Adeyemi, they met him in Adeyemi's house. So he can be questioned in investigation process. You seem ignorant of happenings that you comment on. Police and court issue with Adeyemi started since last year. He was detained and was currently on bail before he skipped court and the judge asked that he should be arrested again. You mentioned that Gbaja should not be allowed freedom to walk around a free man, now you are singing (not even arrested o). SMH.
Gbaja is not in charge of agency, why should he be arrested. There is NO connection established on Gbaja. If there is, after investigation, then he should be arrested and prosecuted as due. Until then, keep your beer parlour talks where they belong, the beer parlor. All your questions are what are been investigated. You should know the answers after INVESTIGATIONS, or don't you know the meaning of investigation?
Gbaja's office DOESN'T issue such letters, Gbaja is president's chief of staff, letters for agencies are issued by offices like that of the SGF and accountant general. When money miss in your church, is it the media team or choir that should first be arrested or questioned or the ushers or the pastors?