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SmellingAnus:
As much as I don't even agree with Pastor Ibiyeomie on some of his teachings, but it would have been better if these Pastors bring out scriptures to counter the Pastor and show where Jesus visited a poor man or woman so that some of us that are ignorant can learn... Let me leave it for senior Pastors of Nairaland, please show us scriptures where Jesus visited a poor man or woman so that ignorant people like me can learn...

It is not everything that scriptural texts are available for. Some things don't just make sense.
Let me ask you. Is there any scriptural texts where Jesus visited AN AFRICAN/BLACK MAN? Does that mean Jesus hated Africans/Blacks because there is not biblical text? Some things are just common sense.
If Jesus did not associate with the poor. Tell me how many of his disciples were rich. Didn't Jesus live with them and dine with them or visited them in their homes?

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COFFINSELLER:
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Sir.
That is not the end of the case. The case was struck out because its substance is before another competent court. Two courts cannot adjudicate over the same case at the same time. So, this court is backing out to allow the other court attend to the substance of the case since what was brought before it was just the preliminary and not the substance.
This is the true picture of things.

I am not in support of anyone of them. But the pronouncement of this court should not be taken out of context as some people would do.

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ElSudani:
How would you know wether or not Jesus visited a black man?
Did the Bible mention the race of everyone Jesus visited?

How would you and Ibiyome know Jesus did not visit a poor man. Did the Bible mention the financial status of everyone Jesus visited?

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The Heart of Man.
In the Children class in those days.
That picture is the first stage when a man has not known Christ and Satan ruled over his life.
There are like three more stages Sha. Back in the days.

Fhanks

mrsqueen:
Very simple... Provide scriptures where Jesus visited the poor in their houses. Simple.

The man said Jesus never visited the house of any poor man. Contradict this with a scripture. If you don't have... Then take the preaching and reflect on it.

Sir
The issue is not because he said Jesus did not visit the poor. If you watch the video (I have watched it over and over again), he said "Jesus did not visit the poor BECAUSE Jesus hated poverty." That statement is the wrong statement because it is not true Jesus NEVER hated poor people.

Id we are to act in what he said then let me list others for you.
1. The scriptures did not record that Jesus visited any Black Man. Does that mean Jesus hated Africans because they are Black?
2. It was not recorded that Jesus visited widows. Does that mean he hated widows?
3. It was not recorded that Jesus visited the elderly and the orphans. Does that mean he hated them because they are elderly and orphans?
4. The scriptures did not record that Jesus attended any burial ceremony (even though he attended a wedding). Does that mean Jesus hated them because they are dead?

His statement does not represent who Jesus stands for. It's the direct opposite. It doesn't mean Jesus loved poverty, but Jesus never hated the poor. He loved them.

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Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂this teacher na die.....always running away when he is exposed.

Sir
I have nothing to hide. I am a man with flaws.
Moreover, this is a faceless forum. Why should I hide? Who knows me?
Sir. I accept. You have won.

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Truthseeker10:
The answer to your question is in your answer to my third question.
All the three questions below are in response to your claims. So please answer them.


1)Where were isrealites women told to shave their hair as a sign of widowhood?

2)oga is the commandments to the nazirite not a proof that Jewish men were accustomed to cutting their hair? Did Absalom not cut his hair?

3)Below is 1 Corinthians 11:16 in NLT and KJV.
Living Translation
But if anyone wants to argue about this, I simply say that we have no other custom than this, and neither do God’s other churches

King James Bible
But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.

What "custom" was Paul saying that the church in corinth does not have, is it the one he gave them in 1 Corinthians 11 that included head covering for women in the church, was head covering also a Roman culture or an instruction from paul?

Sir.
I will not rigmarole with you. I have understand your thoughts and I appreciate it.

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Sand2022:
I don't think you understand what the JWs mean. They didn't say you shouldn't partake. They said only those going to heaven will partake. Now if you believe you have that hope, you should partake. Partaking it won't be an insult to the emblem. Those there that didn't partake do not believe they are going to heaven. If you share that same belief, then it was good you didn't partake, but if you feel you're going to heaven, you should partake. Or at least have your own emblem to eat at home.if not, you actually didn't remember the death of Christ as he commanded.

I think you understand me better after reading my reply to a quote.

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Sand2022:
I love your person dear. That you honored the memorial of Christ death is appreciated. We ma have different theological views, but we all belong to the body of Christ.

I am happy that you eat the emblem in your church. What Christ did for all of us needs to be honored.

Thanks a lot for the compliment.
One thing I have come to understand is "the evidence of righteousness is peace."

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MaxInDHouse:
The OP knows the consequences of eating the emblem he is just the son of the serpent who instigated Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden fruit but himself never ate it. Adam and Eve died in the process while the serpent lives on.
If he's truly convinced that he should take the emblem please ask him if they will prevent him from taking it.
Because he knows it's his death warrant he will sign instantly if he dare eats it! 1Corinthians 11:30

Max
You know I won't support tantrums.
We all have different views about issues. But we can all be respectful in passing our view and addressing others' views.

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Truthseeker10:
1)Where were isrealites women told to shave their hair as a sign of widowhood?

2)oga is the commandments to the nazirite not a proof that Jewish men were accustomed to cutting their hair? Did Absalom not cut his hair?

3)Below is 1 Corinthians 11:16 in NLT and KJV.
Living Translation
But if anyone wants to argue about this, I simply say that we have no other custom than this, and neither do God’s other churches

King James Bible
But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.

What "custom" was Paul saying that the church in corinth does not have, is it the one he gave them in 1 Corinthians 11 that included head covering for women in the church, was head covering also a Roman culture or an instruction from paul?

Sir.
If you keep dodging my singular question then I should ignore you.
My Question.
Must a woman cover their HEADS in Christian public gatherings? Simple question.

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Emusan:
@color-red part is a bit disinformation.

Pay attention to John 5:23 you quoted @color-blue, Jesus was basically saying is that THE EXACT HONOR ONE GIVES TO THE FATHER IS THE SAME HONOR TO BE GIVEN TO THE SON.

We can then ask, how do we honor the Father?

Sir
I am a peace maker. Why are you finding fault. Where is the disinformation in my statement that whenever the son is honoured, the Father is honored?
Is that not the second part of Jesus statement in that John 5:23?
John 5:23
[23]so that everyone will honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. [/b]Anyone who does not honor the Son is certainly not honoring the Father who sent him.[b]

Does that not mean that anyone who honors the son honours the Father? Which in turn means honouring the son is equivalent to honouring the Father.

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Emusan:
Did you see any sign of anger in my post?

It's good as you couldn't address any of the questions.

Sir.
There are no reasons to answer the questions after I have respected your observations.

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Truthseeker10:
1)Where were isrealites women told to shave their hair as a sign of widowhood?

2)oga is the commandments to the nazirite not a proof that Jewish men were accustomed to cutting their hair? Did Absalom not cut his hair?

3)Below is 1 Corinthians 11:16 in NLT and KJV.
Living Translation
But if anyone wants to argue about this, I simply say that we have no other custom than this, and neither do God’s other churches

King James Bible
But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.

What "custom" was Paul saying that the church in corinth does not have, is it the one he gave them in 1 Corinthians 11 that included head covering for women in the church, was head covering also a Roman culture or an instruction from paul?

Sir
What Paul said is that the church does not have such custom or practice.

Please answer. Should Christian women cover their head in church?

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Truthseeker10:
oga is the commandments to the nazirite not a proof that Jewish men were accustomed to cutting their hair? Did Absalom not cut his hair?

Below is 1 Corinthians 11:16 in NLT and KJV.
Living Translation
But if anyone wants to argue about this, I simply say that we have no other custom than this, and neither do God’s other churches

King James Bible
But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.

What "custom" was Paul saying that the church in corinth does not have, is it the one he gave them in 1 Corinthians 11 that included head covering for women in the church, was head covering also a Roman culture or an instruction from paul?

In Jewish customs. Is cutting of hair not a sign of widowhood? Is it applicable again today?
Answer, IS IT A SIN FOR A WOMAN TO CUT HER HAIR WITHOUT BEING A WIDOW?

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cutecommend:
If you have stolen money or things in your office, stole from friend or neighbour, forged certificate, had children from paternity fraud, committed adultery, lied against someone, falsely accuse someone, duped people, did internet fraud, slept with someone's wife, slept with someone's husband, slept with your EX few days/weeks etc. to your wedding, killed a neighbour and covered it up, slandered someone, used a close person for rituals, poisoned someone, tied someone's destiny with juju e.t.c, when you genuinely repent from sin, do you still need to go clear your conscience by apologising to those people or their loved ones, or are you to move forward?

When you repent genuinely, God forgives you totally and you begin to enjoy His presence. But as you begin to move on, the HolySpirit will begin to tell you of some things you need to go and make peace about, stolen things to return e.t c. It could be people you hurt so bad that you need to apologize to. At this moment if you snub such leading of the HolySpirit, you become disobedient and it is sin. The HolySpirit is willing to assist you if you pray to Him for grace to make peace with those you have offended.

When the HolySpirit reminds you of something to confess, restitute e.t.c, if you refuse to do it, you will not enter heaven. And yes, the HolySpirit helps a lot if you pray for His assistance in make peace with anyone. He is a Helper in many things.

Pray this morning: Lord Jesus Christ, please forgive me all my sins, come into my life and be my Lord and personal Saviour in Jesus name. Amen.
Attend a good church also.

Happy Sunday to you.

Moses was the first teacher of restitution.
Let me ask you.
Moses killed the Egyptian before he knew God. Explain to us how Moses made restitution for killing the Egyptian after he became God's servant?

Please answer my question with biblical reference. I will be glad.
Thanks.

lonelydora:
Didn't you hear of the man who returned his WAEC certificate and asked them to cancel his results that he cheated when he wrote WAEC many years ago.

That's true restitution.

Another people that should restitute and get punished are pastors.

A pastor can't casually say on pulpit that he kpai someone or robbed when he was an unbeliever and not get arrested and jailed. That's confession and he should do the time.

Don't you think he should also return all the money or salary he has received during the years he used his certificate. Because WAEC certificate will lead you to the university where you earn degrees and use the degree to work. So, such a man should return his degree and all the salary he earned with it.

RESTITUTION IS GOOD BUT IT SHOULD BE WELL TAUGHT.

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Truthseeker10:
If Paul was strictly talking about the Romam "custom" of doing things in 1 Corinthians 11:14 as you explained, explain what Paul meant by the word "custom" in 1 Corinthians 11:16 shown below.
New Living Translation
But if anyone wants to argue about this, I simply say that we have no other custom than this, and neither do God’s other churches

King James Bible
But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.

2)If it was "natural" and "customary" for all Jewish men to keep long hairs according to you, explain why Numbers 6:5 says that the nazirite should not cut their hair.

Sir.
I don't like argument.
On Numbers you quoted. Didn't Absalom have long hair that was well praised as part of his beauty? Why wasn't Absalom condemned for breaking the law or was he also a Nazarite or on vow yearly because he trims it just once yearly.
Didn't keeping beards part of the requirement for men that David had to tell the elders whose beards were shaved to stay at the border for such a long time until their beard grow. Do we follow those requirements as Christians now?
I Corinthians 11:16 you quoted earlier the meaning is that the teaching is NOT A CUSTOM in the church. It was just an advice from Paul and NOT A GENERAL CUSTOM of the Church. Good and read the original Greek and its interpretation.

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Emusan:
You keep claiming you understood my point yet you haven't addressed it.



GOOD which you believe it's in line with the scripture.

Can you eat emblem in your church if it's not in line with the scripture?



Of course, I know but what is the importance of granting such invitation when you know the scripture you so dear and hold as God's word is being disrupted.



And you feel comfortable in such gathering when you know this is all about SALVATION and eternity.

Do you think Jesus will be in a place where God's word is being applied out of context?



A man of peace won't be in a gathering of mockers and be at peace with him/herself.

For you to be comfortable in such gathering when you know things pertaining to eternity is being disrupted is called for a concern.



What is the purpose of being in that service that has to be about SHARING CHRIST BODY AND BLOOD as I posted in the above verse without be a partaker of it?



So what is the purpose of you being in that service?

Was the service not about the EMBLEM?



You're welcome

Sir.
You have filled everywhere with questions.
Okay sir. No vex.

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Truthseeker10:
If Paul was strictly talking about the Romam "custom" of doing things, explain what Paul meant in 1 Corinthians 11:16.

If it was "natural" and "customary" for all Jewish men to keep long hairs, explain Numbers 6:5.

Sir.
I do not understand ur point.

QuinQ:
My dear sir or madam,
Everything is cultural within it's own culture. All Christian practices are cultural within the Christian culture. A man who wears a cap in a MAINSTREAM Christian church, or a woman with an uncovered hair, will quickly be given signs to correct it - NOT that they'll get arrested!

Please, I will like to address you well. Is it sir or ma?
Thank God you said MAINSTREAM because I know many churches that don't correct women to cover their head (not hair). We need to know the difference between covering head and covering hair.

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Emusan:
Even though you claimed you understood my point but you didn't address it.

Now, on to the @color part.

You're invited and OFFER the emblem but you decided not to partake based on a set rules by the organizer.

Was that food a sacrifice offered to an IDOLS? No!

This is a SUPPOSED FOOD that is about The Lord.

This is what the scripture says about emblem sharing: "The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a sharing in the blood of the Christ? The loaf that we break, is it not a sharing in the body of the Christ?  Because there is one loaf, we, although many, are one body, for we are all partaking of that one loaf."; 1 Corin 10:16 - NWT

If you read downward, you can see how Apostle Paul used that to address the food offered to an IDOLS and how a VISITOR should handle it.

Are you supposed to avoid a food blessed in the name of Jesus Christ when the food was not offered to an IDOLS?

Is the food offered in Jesus name not suppose to be one of the best food without restriction for believers to partake?

If the scripture even allows believers to eat the food offered to an IDOLS based on one's conscience, how much more will the food offered in Jesus name?

Sir
I understand your thoughts quite clear.
I eat the emblem in my own church and I fully partake in it.
I was invited and I know their rules. I could have said no, I wasn't forced. When I got there, they quoted and quoted some scriptures out of context on why people should not eat it.
I knew it was out of context but I am a man of peace. I was not called to disrupt their service but just as a guest.
Not eating it IN THEIR ASSEMBLY does not have any consequence since I may still eat it in my church later this month.

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tctrills:
My question is more like, can we separate the honour of the Father from that of the Son? Do we give greater honour to the Father and a lesser degree of honour to the Son or do they share the same honour?

Sir.
You can't honour the Father and dishonour the Son. You can't honour the Son and dishonour the Father. Whenever the son is honoured, the honor is to the Father.
Straightly answer your question.
The Son is honoured just as the Father is honored.
John 5:23
[23]so that everyone will honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Anyone who does not honor the Son is certainly not honoring the Father who sent him.

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Emusan:
What is their rules?

You should abide by Bible rules, don't you think so?

I understand you.
But since I obliged to attend and I was not forced and this is not even my first time. I know that they do not eat the emblem in that assembly. It will be insensitive for me to just pick the emblem and eat when it is passed before me.
That was what I meant by that statement.

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QuinQ:
Madam,
Thanks for your Politeness. So I ask you again: do you know any mainstream Christian men who cover their hair in church nor women who uncover or shave off theirs?

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Sorry sir or ma.
I have seen women in churches with their head uncovered and so on cut. I have also seen men in churches with their caps on their heads.
Let's not discuss this issue again ma or sir. I have respected you view and I stick to mine that it is a cultural advice from Brother Paul.

I am on my way to the memorial. I was invited by a group of wonderful friends. I had attended during my youth service some couple of years ago. I wish to have a wonderful time. Though I won't be eating the meal because I need to abide by their rules.

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Truthseeker10:
Ok....so you agree that you are as well lying on this platform, is that correct?

If you say so sir. Who am I to argue with you sir.

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Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂funny teacher.....if you really don't care, you wouldn't teach that good people will be with Christ on the new earth. How can a simple question about your teaching suddenly make you shift ground about your teaching?

Thanks sir. Observation noted.

Truthseeker10:
You don't care...but you claim that good people will be with christ on the new earth. What of heaven na....are all good people no longer going to heaven again?

Sir.
Wherever the good people will be (heaven or earth or any other place), as long as they will be with Christ wherever he is, then irrespective of the name, I don't care because it doesn't matter as long as Christ is there.

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Gabrielshow24:
.You are so civil 😁, I wonder how someone can be asking whether the 'new' earth will be in heaven😂!

I would have given him his size😁!

Sir.
I just want to be a peace lover. Non of us have the finality of God's word. We are just learning and everything we say should be modest and confined in the realm of opinion.

Thanks sir for the compliment.