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Please what is the Nigerian government COVID protocol for entering naija and what is the UK protocol for returning? Where can I find the most recent regulations for both countries please?

Edit: I'm triple jabbed with an unvaxxed minor

Kukujajaja:
I think one of the reasons why we're not moving forward as a country, is just because we failed to support and love ourselves.
Over years, I have consistently observing lifestyles of minority communities in UK like Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladesh & few Chinese just to mention few. Most of these communities will bring their brothers from their various countries staying with them assisting them in selling their petty business on high streets.

I visited one of my Pakistani course mates during my undergraduate programs, to my astonished they were visually 6 people living in a single bedroom flat with happiness and show of love. An average Nigerians in UK have competitive mindsets, they always see friends and families as competitors. Let love reigns. Help if you can and say No if you can't.
Nature will always lifts those who are willing to give arms to fellow beings. To those bad wagons you'll all soon be Baba & iya London!
A word is enough for the wise!

You hit the nail in the head! You need to see the twinkle in my host's eyes the day I told them I had saved £6000 towards my tuition. That was the day hostility started. But me? I just pretended I didn't see it and continued to play my part. I didn't even bother to involve anyone. No family member got to know, because I found out that raising concerns about hostile treatment would be termed "being entitled". I just sucked it all up and put all my efforts into maintaining a cordial relationship. It remains the hardest thing I've had to put up with in the decades I've spent on earth, but, na me know wetin I dey find.

TheGuyFromHR:
You gave the cause and the solution in the same sentence.
You and your dependant saved on rent, utilities, possibly food, etc. and so you were able to make up your tuition.
For those who have to pay all those things from 20 hours a week income, your second assertion is still generally true.

We saved only on rent which is actually the culprit. I bought groceries and chose a utility I paid throughout my stay, even continued to pay for a couple of months after I moved out.

I am proof that you can make up a sizeable amount of your tuition if you don't have to pay rent. So, if you are lucky to find someone to accommodate you, don't ruin it! Suck up to them, don't react or complain about their hostility, don't even acknowledge it and manage them so they don't change their mind and send you packing in the middle of winter

My point is that guests and hosts should be able to work around minimising/tolerating inconvenience. Guests especially need to be considerate and read the room. These UK people don't want you in their space, so you have to behave yourself and be a gracious guest till you can get on your feet. My 2 cents

marylandcakes:
If the guest can do all these things then they can certainly get their own place and their dignity intact.

Get their own place but struggle to pay tuition. That's the angle I am coming from. Do we have to let our family and friends suffer when we are in the position to help?

Edit: I just read your other posts and I see that you are speaking from the hurt of past experience(s). What strikes me from your stand on this issue is what I have come to see might be the problem with Nigerian hosts, such as mine (story for another day)

You complain on one hand about "entitled" guests and here you are with a reportedly well behaved one, but your reaction is that the person should move out, thus defeating the purpose of seeking accommodation with you in the first place. Meaning you are not in support of helping regardless of how the guest conduct themselves. Hian!

LagosismyHome:
It would be interesting to see once you settled down, how many or if you would extend the same to others...... host a family as you mentioned above.


Kudos to anyone doing it, but in the UK it is not easy due to many factors. Person salary never sustain am then it to add another load.

Why not? I certainly will and do even better. We rise by lifting others up. These Asians are in this same UK too na, experience the same factors and on the same salary. If them, why not us?

Ticha:
Pop of India - 1.38b, Pop of Nigeria - 206m. We can't even begin to compete in terms of the sheer number of people they have to be employed in these places.

I do agree with you tho that the Asians (Indians, Pakistanis especially) will unite to lift themselves. I was chatting with a Nigerian friend about how all corner shops are owned by Indians who employ only Indians. They will live 3 families to one house and pay down the mortgage on that, then pool resources and buy for the next person then rinse and repeat. They will not only employ family members but sort visas etc. Our people no go gree to share house like that o

It's a lot harder for us to do so abroad even though we do it at back home. It's an interesting phenomenon!

The part in bold! Our people talking about "inconvenience". It makes me sad that people justify this "phenomenon". Notice how most Nigerian success stories abroad touch on individuals, not much impact to community, whereas these Asians (and Jews as another case in point) control empires that benefit generations. We sit here and whine about inconvenience when we should be rallying and building ourselves up. Hian!

I lived with family together with my dependant while I was studying, it was not only inconvenient for our hosts, but for us as well, but the strategy was to adjust while keeping an eye on the end goal. This allowed me save on the cost of renting such that with my 20hr weekly income, I was able to make up my tuition conveniently, something we are made to believe is not possible.

I see a lot of foreign students especially suffering unnecessarily simply because their presence will be inconvenient to someone who is supposed to be family. Rather than work on regulating our behaviour and focus on a greater good... We all have our stories and experiences which I am by no means trying to discount, we just need to tell ourselves the truth and do better as a bloc

Oggg:
check by 9am that is only when new and free appointments are released. 10 mins into it, they all get zapped. U need to be logged in for 9am and for a date 28 days after-

Thanks a lot. There are no dates beyond December 30th, and frankly 28 days is a long time to wait. I have kukuma paid the £125 like that

LagosismyHome:
Not to generalise but this is true.... there usually a big difference between a Nigerian who just came and one that has been living here. I find that it takes almost 2years for the newly income to unlearn and relearn some new ways

You cant blame the people here for not helping, the ungratefulness and entitlement of most newly come is something else. Until they walk the journey of life in UK, they can't really understand

Yinmu, what is the journey of life in the UK? Is it harder than life in Nigeria? Or was it convenient for our parents who took in family members that lived with us for yearsssss? Have you not seen how the Asians live in the UK? Why is it rampant among Nigerians to always send friend/family packing and leaving people stranded all in the name of "life in the UK"? My sister, what is not good is bad, let's talk to ourselves joooooor!

dubaiprince:
What is right is right and what is wrong is wrong. We should not stress it. The brother should have just explained his situation. He would have done the right thing by telling the truth and clear his conscience. Leave the other person to think whatever she thinks.

I have been reading the comments of people on this issue since yesterday and I just wonder what is in the water in this UK that makes Nigerians lose their communality? I mean, like seriously? What ever it is that can give a brother the courage to send his sister packing after a few months could have given him the courage to say no from the start. I mean, let her know beforehand so she can weigh her options!

TheGuyFromHR:
I know someone who recently got his family's ILR, and had to use that process.
He said he logged in at every hour possible as both he and his wife were working from home, including the 9 am someone previously mentioned and never saw a free date, and ended up having to pay the fee.

They say there are free dates, yes, but if so they vanish so fast that if you're bound to a visa renewal timeframe you cant continue waiting indefinitely.

It's all part of the visa fee revenue-generating system, and it is simply what it is.

Thanks for the info. I better just pay the £125 then.

TheGuyFromHR:
It is actually true.
Liability to council tax arises from the time one ceases to be a full-time student, which is the course end date, and before graduation, as the case may be.

The fact that a council does not pursue someone for the payment does not mean the liability does not exist.

I thought liability to pay Council tax is on the homeowner, not the tenant? I have not been paying nor asked to pay Council tax. Who is in trouble me or my "landlord"?

TheGuyFromHR:
I saw your earlier query.
The 125 is the UKVCAS (think TLS) fee and cant be avoided, and its only for children or people unable to use the app, so if you've used the app, you're fine.

Oh well. Just find that strange because dependant's pay an additional £19.50 with the visa fee for biometrics to UKVI. The UKVCAS collects this (already paid for) biometrics, which is what TLS does without charging any fee except additional charges which are optional. I'm just curious why this £125 is being charges and why it cannot be avoided.

Oggg:
try to check for dates 28 days after and exactly 9am. That is when free appointments are released. Not 8:59… 9:00am sharp

Thanks, but there are no appointments beyond December 30th and even the ones as late as 7pm are chargeable. I've checked all service centres and it is the same.

My people, please does any one know the procedure for dependant biometric capture? Why does it cost an additional £125 and will the principal applicant still need to do the same after using the ID check app? Those who have applied/switched visas from within the UK can anyone help out please?

wonlasewonimi:
dont overstay your welcome even if you pay their full rent

You're 100 percent correct!

Lexusgs430:
Not actually the case ........ Those coming from Nigeria, have a sense of entitlement..........

- The UK resident, regulates the heater...... The Nigerian visitor, turns heating on 24/7.......

- UK resident only eats one meat....... Nigerian visitor takes 4 ........

- UK resident is size 8...... Nigerian resident is size 8 ...... UK residents shoes go begin witness unauthorised access........

- UK resident is a recluse..... Nigerian visitor go bring unauthorised friend's, without seeking consent....... Then go chop all the chopables and drink all the drinkables.........

Nigerian visitor would always selfishly spend their BTA, whilst been a parasite on UK residents bank account.......

ETC ETC ETC ETC .......



The list too plenty joor .........

What if you find one Nigerian from Nigeria who did NONE of these things? In fact the guest hates the heater because it gives them headache, guest buys groceries before their host does, chose a utility bill without being asked and paid consistently, cooked, cleaned etc, but when the host could not find any excuses, suddenly "just needs their space". Obodo oyinbo! Hian!

Not complaining o!

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Lexusgs430:
It's like a gift horse, that charges excessively for services rendered...........

Or not rendered. Between my dependant and I, I paid ~£1000 IHS. The only "service" we got was a bottle of double base gel and temperamental GP receptionists! Hian!

Not complaining o!

Dramaqueen12345:
Please I will like to confirm how much it is to change from the student visa to a graduate visa in £… Is anyone planning on changing visas or going back to Nigeria? Thank you

Visa fee £700
IHS £1248 for 2-year route

I applied to switch to the graduate visa.

canadaishome:
Sorry to jump in but is settlement funds needed for the graduate visa route?

No you don't need to show funds if you've been in the UK for 1 year

TheGuyFromHR:
I can't say - anytime I sign in here, I do try to respond to those who mention me, where the query relates to something I've got knowledge about.

I asked if you (or your spouse) have applied for the graduate visa yet and if I need to pay a further (£125) for my dependant's biometrics at the visa application centre after the £19 payment to UKVI?

TheGuyFromHR:
About 200 million pounds in visa fees alone.
That one no include other fees such as priority applications and so forth which are being paid in many cases.
The IHS is about at least 300 m as well, but since that's for health insurance, it can't really be reckoned as profit.
All in all, HO Enterprises go declare good money for the year ending 31 December 2021.

@TheGuyFromHR I made a post asking you about the graduate visa and seems it was deleted. Is there a rule against that here? I'm sorry it has been a while I have been here

cc @justwise

Hello, has anyone (in London) applied for the zip Oyster card for their children?

TheGuyFromHR:
Yes.

How are you gearing up for the post study visa? I'm a little apprehensive about my situation. I wasn't sure about staying back at the time I applied. My dependant's visa expires on my course expiry date date while mine has additional 4 months. Now that I've decided to stay, I am not sure of how to handle this situation. Any ideas please?

justwise:
I'm yet to see any refusal letter regarding this, so i can't start a thread based on rumour

Yes it will be good to start one but it should be based on facts/evidence

I'm yet to see a refusal letter too, as someone noted, I was shown a post on twitter with a comment that working more than 20 hours was the main infraction leading to the alleged refusals.

My initial thought was also that it seemed a little early to be applying for the post study visa as the session is still on and results are not yet finalised (in my Uni at least).

However, I still think there is the need to create a dedicated thread for post study work as a category of visa in itself, so that applicants can get as much help as on other threads such as this, spouse, general, skilled visas etc

Godsblessings:
Hello house, I really need ur candid advice , just received an offer from uk, pls I want to relocate with my husband and children. Pls can I use my mum account statement for our
visa Applications, if yes , another problem is that my mum surname is not same as mine as she is using her father's name as surname , pls , is it true that my birth certificate showing her name as my mother will take care of that? Really don't know what to do and transferring funds takes another 29days bf I can use it ? Pls , has anyone ever used mother account statement with different surname for student visa and dependent visa? Your input will be appreciated, thanks.

Your mum can indeed sponsor you with funds in her own account. All you need to show is your birth certificate with her name and your marriage certificate to show your name change.

cvdoctor:
Hello All,
I have an admission from UWE bristol for Jan 2022 intake.
Anyone willing to recommend the great and fast way to pay the deposit tuition at a good exchange rate.

Use Form A. CBN directive to banks to process the same day and of course at (or very close to) the official rate.

justwise:
Contact them

Hello Justwise,

Seeing as the first set of 2020 tier 4 visa holders are now graduating and some already applying for post study work visas and a seeming lot of denials, do you think you could create a thread for that so as not to derail this one?

Mamatukwas:
I have. Send a PM.

Done ma'am. Thanks

oxx4:
Are you in Nigeria? Want to buy pounds

No, I'm in the UK

Hello, anyone need £s please? I have £4500 here and need naira urgently, thanks.