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igbodefender:
Same to you. I must say I am impressed by your passion for Igbo Presidency. As sarrki would say, 'You are a Patriot!'

Its the right thing at the right time!

Oga NduChucks, a true Nigerian. I sight you! Happy Thanksgiving.

Title is misleading. First thing I thought was, "definitely didn't happen in Nigeria," before I opened thread and read the nonsense.

igbodefender:
We are thankful for democracy, Buhari, the coming Igbo Presidency, Blue3k (Nairaland resident economist), Nairaland, Zikistmovement.com, and a 100 other signs of hope.

Nothing can stop Igbo presidency in 2019, or 2023 latest! Quote me.

I like Okorocha but will wait to see who is motivated to throw their hat in the ring by getting his or her name out there by middle of next year, regardless of party affiliation.

Happy Thanksgiving.

It's Thanksgiving Day today in the USA!

(Don't tell the natives oh! Lest memories of small pox blankets and the trail of tears ruin the festivities. Ah Ahmrika. )

Anyway, it is probably the biggest annual holiday in the continental united states, being celebrated by just about everyone.

People duly give thanks to the deity, ancestors and nature for seeing them through this complex world.

I will thank my ancestors, for they were truly wise, hardy and aspirational. Omo Ogun ni mi. E se o! Aa se yi s'amodun o. Ase!

Give your thanks, as a Nigerian. No matter where you are. Don't curse Buhari. Yes, there are many things to complain and be miserable about, but be really thankful and appreciative.

Politics section na my people.

Nebuzaradan:
all i know is that Fayose is the oshokomole of yoruba land the man his great deeds supercedes that of awolowo and any yeroba leader dead or alive

I know you're joking. I will ignore your asides at O and Awolowo. Just carry on enjoying yaself on this Thanksgiving morning.

MayorofLagos:
The fear of OPC is the beginning of Ibo brain reset.

All the ezes from different areas pack into bus and went to bow down and dedicate to Aare a promise of good behavior of all ezes in Yorubaland.

Dem no even wait for Aare to demand it....they volunteered on their own to fall under his rule.

Igbo people suffer on Nairaland sha.

But this is only online. I'm sure you married Igbo for house sef.

Nebuzaradan:
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Fayose is greater than oduduwa itself
at least Fayose saved his people from fulani herdsmen while Tinubu worshiped them

Fayose is a disgrace, really. Not someone to praise or emulate. His actions are motivated by extreme self interest and avarice. Reading about his family history that he himself enumerated, I am not surprised at the kind of foolish corrupted opportunist he turned out to be.

And I'm not APC or PDP.

More important, don't talk sh!t about Oduduwa.

Mrnairalandd:
They are littering everywhere with flat heads and shapeless heads children all over our region.

It’s time to ask for local council clarification certificate with family declaration documents for Nursery admission before we admit pupils into our schools in the West.

Are you mad?

Wait! Is this my soon-to-be-ex spouse with another moniker?

zenmaster:
Igbo amaka.
Stop hating
www.nairaland.com/attachments/6300114_images11_jpeg0a11a8ec37620e47e4feab56245e56df

nice photo. one woman, six sons. she did well.

ZorGBUooeh:
Fat Losser..If ojukwu was alive he would have cursed ad disown you for joining apc.

I hate the guy shape..See as im be like Bag of Beans

Stop it! His father was big-boned too. Ojukwu senior was only able to keep his weight down because he was a trained military man.

My favourite part.

dipoolowoo:
Pledging that the Igbos would always work with the Aare, the Eze of Ojodu said “we will continue to be with you, we only pray that God will continue to give us life to continue to be part of you.

“We are delighted about your belief in culture and tradition. Our culture is who we are. But people now mix it with religion. Culture is older than religion. We are what we are already before religion.

I love the wise words from old folks.

What an exposure
Honestly and seriously, 9jacrip needs to write an history book on Ife.

Yes oh! I believe 9jacrip is a trained historian. That bro's posts inspired me to go deeper into Yoruba history, formally. But he, like many others, absconded Nairaland soon after when Seun lost his mind and deputised his mad Ekiti protege Mynd44 to start coming down hard on those who question Seun's tactics!

Kudos to the many other valuable contributors on this thread and on other culturally significant threads too.

Na oga Kats and dudu_negr dey get time before, but e be like say dem don retire from Nairaland. So i dey do my best small small.

Lol nice.
Those legends don try true true.

I taught Katsumoto and NegroNtns/Dudu_Negro everything they know. Ask them. Go on.

Lawani

Just incase you keep thinking Ife and her throne have lost relevance. Here's a picture of Onipopo of Popo leaving Republic of Benin (Dahomey) to see his 'Father' on his knees.

If a picture worths a thousand words, this one is yelling.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3280107_image_jpeg_jpeg6f95b5e7a24ad4fc0808d6698fd37362

Very telling. But this debate seem to continue . . . for some time.

So now their daughter will know her father was killed by her mother. Nice work, mom!

salt1:
Reminds me of Ali Baba and the Forty thieves

I guess they look interesting but I don't like this (the guy on the right) style of "agbada." Plus the colors are all wrong for a Yoruba traditional wedding. Its supposed to be aso oke in the the brown/taupe family.

As for the women style now, I don't like the way they're thing their gele in a funnel like shape.

I guess I'm too old fashioned sha.

Congrats on marriage!

P.S. I like the fila. Is that abetiaja cap I see?

Katsumoto:
My guess is that one of the wives was barren and she proceeded, using witchcraft, to ensure that the other wives did not bare children before her. Since it was only the concubine that had the child, she probably did not know about the concubine. This is plausible because the priests might have revealed to the Ogiso that someone was responsible for him remaining childless and devised a plan for him to 'meet' his concubine in secret. Why would a king have four wives without any of them been able to have kids? The first wife was probably barren and then he would have married the second and she too would have been barren, and then the third with the same result, and then the fourth.

I don't believe that the one wife out of four was able to get pregnant while the others couldn't. It only points to the possibility the pregnancy was from a non-sterile man, unlike the king. Tales about a suspiciously barren wife bewitching all the other wives is not plausible outside of superstition and scapegoating of an innocent victim. That theory always seemed full of holes.

Kilode1:
I always resent that too, Like West Africans cannot be validated until they have a connection to Egypt or something

I've revisited this and think there's a strong possibility Oduduwa the Ile-Ife king did in fact come from the Middle East. I'm keeping my mind open for more knowledge about it. Oodua a gbe wa o.

That was from the A. B Ellis book right? actually you are right, one should wonder about the discrepancy, since he got his description from the supposedly dark skinned Yorubas and maybe the Ewes.

Or maybe the Spiritual/Divine Oduduwa deity is different from the physical mortal one.

Or maybe the desription was lost in translation , maybe they mean't deep one, or shiny one, or bright one, or wise one and not black one.

Yes, from A.B. Ellis book on the sacredtext website. I previously posted a portion of it - dealing with Oduduwa and Yoruba religious beliefs and Orisas - on another NL thread.

macof:
Yes by lineage but Ologun kutere's claim to the throne was through his mother's lineage, since she was the daughter of Ado and Akinsemoyin's children were young.

This applies to all the "royal families", because as you know in Yorubaland(yes isale-eko is yoruba not bini land) obaship is not owned by one single family unlike in Bini
If Isale eko is Bini they would be practicing bini tradition not Yoruba.

And the Akinsemoyin line seem to have been phased out of the ascendancy.

Alcatraz005:
You have spoken well. I am really tired on their matter so I rarely comment on igbo issue in Nigeria and I am now channeling all my energy to my own life. If given the chance to vote for an igbo or Ijaw man as President, I and my generations will choose that ijaw man. That goes to show how much I “distrust” an average igbo man. Is it my fault that I don’t trust them? No! It is a result of years of careful study of the behavior of average igbo person who is prone to unwarranted bouts of hubris and vain glorious worship of the outrightly mundane. I advice all Nigerians to just tolerate them as fellow country men but never to bestow them with power as they are sure to misuse that power to the detriment of other Nigerians.

Wow!

Seriously, what do you think will happen when an Igbo becomes president, in 2019 or 2023 or anytime in between? You think an Igbo President will declare Biafra and excise the west and north like Malaysia did Singapore?

What is the worst that could happen from an Igbo presidency?

Alcatraz005:
I have been following the discussion and my submission is that if the 2023 elections will be thrown open for all Nigerians to vote, I don’t see any igbo man winning. There’s just this fear that Nigerians have for igbos that won’t see them vote for an igboid individual.

Igbos have the Yoruba and Hausa to contend with in Nigeria. No need for any threat of violence, what the igbos need right now is to be humble but we all know that arrogance is ingrained in the average igbo man so we are in a catch 22 situation.

Are you Igbo?

Why wouldn't they be able to win? Candidates are promoted and supported by their political party and their followers - that is how an Igbo or any other ethnicity wins. Once the nomination process conclude and campaign starts in earnest, most supporters and affected regions will fall in line and get behind their party nominee.

ProWalker:
Atiku will be wiser now

All politics na local, if you cannot influence your local politics, you have no electoral value to national politics

This would automatically be true but there are exceptions.

Remember the people of Indiana were ready to throwaway Governor Mike Pence but Trump still chose him to be his running mate. Although the success of the campaign was 95% due to Trump, with Pence ready to concede defeat and even betraying Trump when the Inside Editton tapes came out.

ProWalker:
Just like today, Igbos will still eat their ofe nsala in 2019 and won’t come out to vote, so any party banking on Igbo vote is just wasting it time.
If they vote again in Nigeria elections, they will be label as hypocrites

So you expect Igbo never to vote or participate again in national elections? I think that was just Anambra elections o.


[quote author= post=62493490]Hopefully.

Are you a lover of BARBECUE?
If yes, check our signature....[/quote]Is it beef barbecue or pork barbeque? I no dey eat piggies oh!

Abagworo:
2023 Buhari will hand over to Okorocha as agreed by the world powers. The rest are mere pretenders.

Preferably 2019. Buhari doesn't need to stay in there until he croaks.

OP, what do Yorubas need with presidency? Nothing! Anyway, Yorubaland is WEST.

I had no idea this fight continued o! 9 pages! So Ijaw and Bini they drag? Where's TonyeBarcanista to debate whoever the NL Bini rep is? I'm not sure about Laudate; that bro seems very Lagosian-Bini - maybe he's Lagos Bini royal.

Blackfyre:
Funny, I was there about late last year, that place heavy sha make I no lie. I happened to walk into a market of theirs where they sold ritual stuffs and items, name it, I saw it all except human body sha. There was this tree at the center of the market tha had all sort of things placed at the bottom. It was my first time of seeing cowries.

Benin people no dey play I swear...

Cowries? You mean the common cowries that we used for trade in the old days? What's so frightening about that?

kiosk1:
Get your damn facts right. Ojukwu died in November 2011. Bianca was appointed ambassador in December 2011, one month after ojukwu died, and she assumed her job in October 2012 . It was in the Newspaper...and note she never decamped from APGA to become ambassador unlike these other betrayers.

You registered on Nairaland 4 years ago, now with a total of 51 posts - at least half of which are psychotic rants in defense of Bianca. You're either her or her paid agent. Come with correct demeanor before I will deign to acknowledge you again.

Kiosk1 and Foxxybrown sound alike too.

kiosk1:
Don't mind this ignoramus( isalegan2 )with his defective brain . When his own papa dies, we pray his mother will also be accused of having suspicious conduct.
Bianca is head and shoulders above this ret@rd Old Buffon son of Ojukwu. Miles ahead!

Foxxybrown:
Note that every husband that dies in IGBOLAND has been murdered by his wife, so this is not news, Giles14.

Even your own dad, when he dies will be said to have been murdered by your mum, cret1n.

Foxxybrown:
Well said, Bianca and don't mind these foolish idiots.

Angelanest:
Retd Justice Sylvanus Adiewere Nsofor has resumed in Washington D.C as Nigeria's Ambassador to the United States. A formal reception in his honor was held at the Embassy on Monday with the wife of the vice president, Dolapo Osinbajo and other dignitaries in attendance.

The 83-year-old Nsofor was earlier rejected by the senate in March as a non-career ambassador for looking too fragile and not been able to answer the questions asked of him when he appeared before the senate committee on Foreign affairs.

Nsofor was later confirmed by the senate after he was re-nominated by President Muhammadu Buhari.

Justice Sylvanus Adiewere Nsofor retired as a Justice of Court of Appeal in March 2005 after clocking the mandatory retirement age of 70.

Source; https://www.nationalhelm.co/2017/11/retd-justice-sylvanus-adiewere-nsofor-resumes-as-nigerias-ambassador-in-us.html

Africans have really lost so much of their culture. Read as posters here are insulting an elderly man who wants to continue to serve his people.

The man has a lot of experience and knowledge. He was a judge in the Nigeria Court of Appeals.

ibedun:
Zenmaster, I am a Yoruba man happy, content and doing well in my fatherland, my ancestral land.

How does it feel to be igbo in Lagos state knowing you and your people are refugees, and constantly seeking relevance and recognition? And constantly and openly rejected. Please tell us......I want to know.

How do you also feel when you yapp 'no mans land' endlessly yet your children will be forced to learn and speak Yoruba. Kai!

Bros, let's be more charitable, please. I believe ZenMaster was just having a little fun and reacting to Igbophobic insults.

janellemonae:
I swear dt biafra can't come soon enough. So they can all be kicked out of the sw. I think d only yorubas dt are against Biafra are the ones not active on social media.

Thank you for acknowledging the epidemic of tribal warfare on the internet. It has gotten so bad, I am deluged with anti-Igbo rants and emailed links from a relative who doesn't interact with Igbos or hardly any Nigerians at all in years but has lately absorbed and taken seriously all the crazy tribal rhetoric they read on the internet!

johnstar:
Weytn make we do??

That criminal

It wasn't named for the APC politician but for Madam Efunroye Tinubu, a successful Egba-born Lagos businesswoman in the 1800s. READ YOUR HISTORY BOOKS!

https://www.nairaland.com/1270134/great-african-women-history#15434067

Ojiofor:
I will see how long Bianca herself will remain with APGA more especially if they lose Anambra state on saturday.
I don't trust any living Nigerian politician.

How loyal was Bianca herself to APGA? Did she not hungrily accept the Spain ambassadorship from GEJ, something Ojukwu was against while he was alive?

giles14:
true obi betrayed ojukwu but you murdered ojukwu

I know, right?

gidgiddy:
90% of all Igbos dont care about the presidency of Nigeria.

Not when they see an Igbo man or woman as a candidate of one of the major parties. Then watch out before you get bum rushed on the way to the polls!

Ejanla07:
d guy has been wailing. accusing bianca of killing ojukwu.

over irrelevance dey worry d guy

Biancas conduct in Ojukwus last days was very suspicious. Fact! I don't know anything about Ojukwu Junior but lets not be biased and use his dispute with Bianca as evidence he is unworthy. There's lots of things about Mrs. Ojukwu that's questionable. May Ikemba rest in peace.

I am not an APC supporter either, by the way. Just an objective observer.

Arysexy:
Drowning APC looking for ojukwu attachment by all means to convince ndi Anambra.

This Buffon was disowned by ojukwu while alive, so no big deal. Saturday is d day to tell APC our mind in Anambra.

Evil hateful party

I've seen several posters claiming Junior was disowned by his father. Africans don't do that! Please show me a quote where Ojukwu disowned his son. It is serious.