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CapitanS:
Philosophy is more likely to induce madness than psychology

The STUDY of Philosophy, yes. But statistics (in USA) show that the highest number of professionals under the care of psychiatrists/therapists are other psychiatrists! I put psychologists in that group. I have personally had an encounter with a female psycholosist who was wildly out of her mind - an experience I never wish to have again- who in her lucid moments would recount how she took an interest in studying schizophrenics while a young woman in her native country. Honestly I'd rather not even remember this story.

swave7:
No one asked faggit

Someone is very defensive. Denial?

TreasuredGlory:
Good family name built over the years gone in the drain. May God give us good children in Jesus mighty name. Amen.

"Good children" don't just happen. Someone actually has to train them. When he started doing drugs and skipping school the father should have taken drastic action instead of listening to relatives who pleaded with him to go easy. It's not their child who's now a murderous bank robber.

To the gallows! You don't kill in cold blood and expect leniency. He's not fit to live with humans any longer.

ifyalways:
He never finished his previous jail term.

Well, hope he faces the music squarely this time around.

Death by hanging is the only judgment.

swave7:
Seconded! Money over b!tches mah nigguh! Having a gf or wife is foolishness in the long run cos you'll just end up paying for everything & collect headaches from all the nonstop nagging & rubbish females are about.

He's not gay.

Newsprex:
Am an undergraduate in the University of Ibadan. I study Psychology as my course but my mum won't just allow me read the course in peace. She keeps telling and frustrating me that Psychology is the study of MADNESS.

The more people keeps discouraging her about the bad side of the course, the more she keeps discouraging and frustrating me to rewrite JAMB and choose another course. Meanwhile, she can't read nor write. She has a very strange mentality that can't be changed even if you advice her till 100 years to come.

Please, what should I do? Should I quit or just continue my stuff?

If you're not that committed to it, switch to Sociology (Cultural Anthropology). It's a better course. Psychology is way overrated.

Which one is Ebuka? Is Banky the bearded fellow?

DIKEnaWAR:
Google is not everything. Some of you want to overburden this teenager called Google.


Many countries have their different laws. Nigerian law is different from the USA or Britain. Under our laws, a Presidential pardon wipes away your sins.

Because the president is The Most High God, right? Se Eledumare ni?

greypencils:
Good day people and God bless the OP for this thread. I'm currently in a relationship with a girl from Orlu in Imo state. She has told me she won't want to spend more than three months wearing a proposal ring before getting married that's why I haven't proposed yet. I have some money but you can never tell how much to spend when it comes to marriage. I am Yoruba by the way. What is important is the love I have for her and the love she feels for me. I would appreciate useful contributions. Please I beg you in the name of God, no unfriendly remarks please. Thank you. God bless you.

Don't delay! Just do it.

Congratulations in advance.

By the way, do you get the encouragement from her that her people will say yes?

smoothfrancis:
FOR LIKE A YEAR I HAVENT LOGGED IN TO MY NAIRALAND ACCOUNT BUT THIS THREAD JUST MADE ME LOG IN SO I CAN COMMENT,I MAY NOT BE AN EXPERT ON CULTURE AND TRADITION BUT WHEN IT COMES TO BRIDE PRICE ISSUES IN IGBO BESTLAND I KNOW A BIT AB9UT HOW IT WORKS SO I WILL TRY AND EXPLAIN THE BEST WAY I CAN:SO IN IGBO LAND BRIDE PRICE AND MARRIAGE RIGHTS IS SOLEY UP TO THE INLAWS INVOLVED,NOW ONE THING CERTAIN IS THE FACT THAT THE COMMUNITY OF THE BRIDE WILL ALWAYS GIVE YOU A LIST SO EMANDING YOU WOULD SCREAM HOLY MURDER BUT THE THING IS THE LIST IS NOT ACTUALLY MEANT TO REPRESENT WHAT YOU HAVE TO BUY OR PAY ,RATHER ITS MEANT TO CREATE A CONCEPT OR IDEA THAT THE WOMAN YOU ARE ABOUT TO MARRY IS VALUABLE,NOW AFTER GETTING THE LIST THE TWO FAMILIES MEET AND TALK ON HOW THE BRIDE PRICE WILL ACTUALLY BE TAKEN CARE OF,THEN AFTER THAT THE BRIDES DAD CALLS HIS KINSMEN AND TELLS THEM HOW AND WHAT TO REQUEST FROM HIS INLAWS,SOMETIMES THE GROOM'S FAMILY MIGHT DECIDE THAT THEY WANT TO PAY AND BUY WHATEVER IS IN THAT LIST OR EVEN DO MORE JUST TO PROVE THEY ARE WEALTHY AND WELL PREPARED..ALSO LET ME STATE THAT WHICHEVER COMMUNITY YOU GO TO GET MARRIED FROM IN IGBO LAND ANY LIST GIVEN TO YOU IS SUBJECT TO BARGAINING AND DEBATES..

The bolded makes sense. That's why we say the elders are (and the ancestors were) wise.

P.S. Now I see the lists in a totally new way. The next female that gets married in my family, I will include on the list to the groom's family, one Mercedes Benz.

And two cows specifically from President Buhari's Daura herd.

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usecondom:
Are these figures quoted here correct? There was a lady i was supposed to marry years back, her friends same Igbo ladies told me it is going to cost me all my savings to marry her. So all those were lies? like seriously? The stories you have to buy car for father and keke napep for mama? Millions for bride price? God. I have to apologize to someone. I just made flimsy excuses to end that relationship Nneka i am really sorry. May God forgive me. I am happily married and wish you well wherever you are today. A good lady and an Angel.

See how women stand in each other's way, huh?

Friends like enemies. Frenemies.

Enemies of progress!

MChaze25:
Oga we never dated...

Must you date before you marry?

Sounds like a decent girl. Maybe she ballooned up the bride price so you won't think she comes cheap. Or she mixed up the gift list with the traditional bride price. You should give her a chance and do it the right way with the family if you're both still interested.

The ex is not an option.

Maybe you're lonely in a strange land. Find some activities or companions - no males though

Give your marriage a chance. Find something to occupy your time and take your mind off your worries. It's a good time to enroll in school and upgrade your status and employment opportunities. If your husband came home to get you and took you abroad, that means he has at least a long term visa or permanent residency. That may allow you to go to a state school that costs almost nothing for resudents.

Not comfortable advising divorce in a non-abusive relationship.

chuckjonesautos:
Cowards commit suicide in Africa.. this is not Japan where they practice Hara Kiri.. Suicide by honor..

Actually, Yoruba kings and warriors are supposed to be ready to do that - a form of hara kiri. (Read about the phenomenon of the calabash and parrots egg, and duties of Oyo warriors and warlords.) Such a person cannot be defeated, captured, deposed or imprisoned by enemies. I like Igbo people wella but there's some difference in tradition due to Yoruba monarchical system. I think Igbo tradition uses exile (see Obi Okonkwo in 'Things Fall Apart') in cases like that.

Sagamite:
You never do this to a child.

You destroy their mentality, confidence, self-worth and sense of identity right from when they are young.

Very few ever overcome it well and it affects them for life.

What a reetarded man!

I don't like a woman is not grounds to abandon my child.

Even if for any reason, like courts, I can't be there to raise them or be in their life, I would be the first to be contacting them when they reach age of self-determination.

Babalawo Sagamu, when will you se ikomo? Don't let time run out on you o!

What am I even saying? You're a man; you have all the time in the world. You're young'un!

Some interesting history being discussed here. Kudos!

LogicStatement:
That man is an ungrateful person. He thanked only the pastor but forgot to thank the soldiers who left their duty post to look for him and found him in the bush, helped him, conveyed him to the different hospitals, and paid for the transportation. He also forgot to thank his conductor who stood by him all this while and went as far as getting the soldiers to rescue him instead of them to run for their lives. That's sacrifice! He forgot also, to be very appreciative to the unknown man who appeared from nowhere, left his own business and assisted a complete stranger to drive down to another state in order to seek medical attention for this half dead man. And lastly, he forgot the ambulance man who despite being rejected in two different hospitals still agreed to drive him with a complete stranger to Nnewi. How much more the doctors (and other health workers in Nnewi) who responded quickly to save his life unlike their colleagues in Delta state that rejected him?
This is a typical example of a good Samaritan story. All these people are all good Nigerians. Life is once man, always be thankful to everyone who helped and be grateful to God who brought them your way.

Great post!

However I do not think the victim is an ungrateful person. Unfortunately due to his circumstance in life he has unconditional faith in his pastor and showed it by giving him too much (undeserved) credit.

Marxist001:
Muritala was supposed to be one of Nigeria's finest president but he was not given that opportunity....I suspect buhari and co!!!!

Buhari not involved in Murtala's death o!

classicMan22:
dey will harvest dis one organ

I didn't know India has death penalty for drug crimes?

Hehehehe

mechanics:
I thought Reverend don't marry?

. you're thinking of Catholic priests, "reverend father"?

Ugo4hotish:
if you marry à woman While she is prégnant, it is assumed that you are marrying 2 people, her and your child. it's a taboo to marry your own child. in IGBO tradition such child normally dies. my advice to the man is to wait for the woman to deliver first, before marriage.

This is interesting. I love to learn about culture.

yoruba once again trying to impose their language on others.
This is what the yoruba tried to do to my people when Bendel was part of the western region.
The scam is that, these african fake "historians" identify language with tribe.
Therefor yoruba try to force other people to speak their language and hence turn everybody into yoruba.
Which would increase their numbers.
This is how they started this whole scam called yoruba anyway.
Just take the language of ife and impose it on an entire region and then conclude that that entire region is made of one tribe only because they speak that same language which you forced upon them.

This guy is funny. Yorubas did not force theit language on Ile-Ibinu. The language of any royal court is the language of its royal family, meaning once the sons of Oduduwa became your Obas, the natural order of things had to follow. This is life.

letusbepieces:
AFONJA ARE VERY WICKED AND HEARTLESS BUNCH.

U ARE NOT HUMAN AND SHOULD BE GIVEN A SEPARATE CATEGORY.

Oh my!
It's not that serious. All the Igbos I knew in Lagos spoke Yoruba better than some of the full-blooded Yoruba kids there. I don't know why you're so upset about this attempt to preserve heritage. I don't think this will curtail anyone's rights. Those Lagosian Igbo kids that want to go to Lagos state universities won't be discriminated against.

When I joined Nairaland, we were "N.gba.ti" people. Then we were "Ofe.ma.nu" oily soup people. Now we're "Afonja." No shaking.

Afam4eva:
Unfortunately, we found ourselves in the long side of history else we wouldn't leave our land in the first place to come to Lagos.

You have every right to be anywhere in Nigeria. You are Nigerians. Don't take junk from anyone.

nduchucks:
Why are some of you guys trying to make a mountain out of an anthill

First of all, no one can be forced to participate in a debate, secondly debaters must agree to the rules and the consequences of violating them. Finally, the judges and moderators can maintain sanity during the debate by warning debaters who try to push the envelop too far, hiding posts, or even temporarily locking the debate thread if necessary.

You people have nothing to fear but fear itself. If the difficulties many of you are mentioning are enough to can this topic, then don't whine and complain about your reps in NASS if they refuse to address issues because they are difficult and some may believe that the issues are too ethnically sensitive. Let the debate continue, if you can't stand heat, get out of the kitchen.

Thank you, o jare, Oga NduChucks! If one does not handle conflict civilly, one may be forced to handle them acrimoniously or even violently. I proposed the topic 5 years ago to be discussed in a debate setting as some members of Nairaland had previously done to a couple of other pressing topics. Only to have a couple of my "good friends" and even my spouse kick against it. Shockingly some of them na tribalists that were concurrently fighting Igbos on numerous threads o! Anyway. I've said too much. but just remember no one was talking about IPOB, pigs or Kanu when we proposed the topic.

ClumsyFlimsy:
I have come to realize almost every Yoruba sees Lagos as their one and only birthright ; forgetting that Lagos is collective work of every tribe especially Niger Delta money

Lagos was once the capital of naija
What if gbagi or Hausa do same in Abuja

See as Yoruba Boyz just they quote me anyhow

Kiss the bloody truth u pained bitch ass demons

Hahahahaha! This guy dey vex o!

About That Song You’ve Heard, Kumbaya

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The ancestors of the Gullah Geechee were brought to the southeastern U.S. from West Africa as slaves, and the hymn was a call to God to help people facing oppression. Above, a ceremony honoring those lost to the slave trade in South Carolina last year.

By JOHN ELIGON
FEB. 9, 2018
New York Times

We chant it with locked arms and closed eyes, at campfires, in protest lines and from the pews at church, but the truth is, many of us have no clue what the lyrics mean or exactly where they come from.

Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya. Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya.

Thanks to research and lobbying by residents of a coastal community descended from slaves, the origins and meaning of “Kumbaya” have been recognized in Congress, raising hopes that a fading culture might get a boost. The song may be sung more often than usual this month, especially in the part of Georgia where its soulful lyrics are said to have originated almost a century ago.

Speaking on the House floor two months back, Representative Buddy Carter of Georgia recognized the Gullah Geechee, whose ancestors were brought to America’s southeastern coast from West Africa, as the probable creators of the famous folk song.

If you’re searching for deep meaning in the word itself, the truth, as Mr. Carter laid out in his proclamation, is that kumbaya is probably a made-up word. Still, it has come to evoke peace and harmony — sometimes mockingly so.

The first known recording of the song was made in Darien, Ga., in 1926, sung by a Gullah Geechee man named H. Wylie. The chorus was actually “Come By Here,” which in the Gullah’s Creole accent sounds like cum-by-yah. Over time, that pronunciation transformed into what we know today as kumbaya. The hymn was a call to God to come and help the people as they faced oppression.
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The Gullah Geechee, who have seen their land and way of life threatened by rising property values, now hope to use the congressional proclamation, as well as the Georgia Legislature’s recognition of “Kumbaya” as the state’s historical song, to help promote their story. An exhibition about the song is planned for this month in Darien, which sits along the 1,200-mile coastal corridor where the Gullah people settled.

“It’s significant,” said Anne C. Bailey, a historian at Binghamton University and author of “The Weeping Time,” a book about the largest slave auction in America. “It says something about the African-American tradition and the African-American contribution to the building up of the country and the world.”

Someone’s singing Lord, kumbaya. Someone’s singing Lord, kumbaya.

For decades, the dominant narrative was that a white evangelist, the Rev. Marvin V. Frey, had originally composed “Kumbaya.” This story was spread in part by Mr. Frey himself, who got a copyright on the song in 1939, claiming to have written it in 1936 based on a prayer he heard in Oregon.

Something about that story never sat right with Stephen Winick, who has a Ph.D. in folklore. For one, the song sounds like something from the African-American tradition. Mr. Winick had also heard rumors that there was an earlier recording of the song in the archives of the American Folklife Center at the Library of Congress, where he works.

“I think it’s important to restore cultural materials to their communities of origin,” he said. “Give credit where it’s due.”

Several years ago, Mr. Winick dug up that old wax cylinder recording. It was captured in 1926 by Robert Winslow Gordon, the first head of the Archive of American Folk Song. It was the recording of H. Wylie singing “Come By Here” in an accent that sounds like “kumbaya,” a decade before Mr. Frey claimed to have written “Kumbaya.” Mr. Winick said it was possible that Mr. Frey may have heard a prayer with the kumbaya lyrics, and composed them into a song, thinking he was the first to do so. But the evidence on that remains murky.

Mr. Winick also found in the archives lyrics collected in 1926 by a high school student outside of Gullah territory for a song similar to “Come By Here.” That raised the possibility, Mr. Winick said, that the song might not have originated with the Gullah Geechee, though he maintains that it is quite possible that they could be its creators. The version of the song as we know it today very likely traces to the Gullahs because of the pronunciation of “come by here” as “kumbaya,” he said.

“I think that in the general public, if you ask someone on the street, ‘What does kumbaya mean,’ they wouldn’t know,” he said. “They would think it means joining hands and being friendly to each other.”

Someone’s laughing, Lord, kumbaya. Someone’s laughing, Lord, kumbaya.

Griffin Lotson, the Gullah historian, knew nothing of the song’s connection to his people until he started researching it in 2012, and since then he has been on something of a crusade to elevate its history.

Many Gullah Geechee, Mr. Lotson included, were conditioned to think that in order to live a successful life, they had to leave their dialect and traditions behind, he said. But now there is great interest in Gullah culture, from inside and out.

He was hired to consult on a scene in the remake of the television mini-series “Roots.” He is often called upon to give cultural tours.

Lawmakers realized the importance of preserving the Gullah Geechee culture years ago when, in 2006, Congress created the Gullah Geechee Cultural Heritage Corridor. The Gullah Geechee hope that the recognition of their role in the origins of “Kumbaya” will represent one step toward popularizing, and preserving, who they are.

“Gullah Geechee culture has influenced everything, from our music to the way we speak,” Heather Lorraine Hodges, the executive director of the Gullah Geechee Cultural Heritage Corridor Commission, wrote in an email. “It is a foundational culture for the United States.”

Someone’s crying, Lord, kumbaya. Someone’s crying, Lord, kumbaya.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/09/us/kumbaya-gullah-geechee.html

‘Cheddar Man,’ Britain’s Oldest Skeleton, Had Dark Skin, DNA Shows

New York Times
By CEYLAN YEGINSU and CARL ZIMMER
FEB. 7, 2018

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A likeness of “Cheddar Man,” Britain’s oldest complete human skeleton, at the Natural History Museum. Genetic evidence showed that he was dark-skinned and blue eyed, scientists said. Credit London Natural History Museum

LONDON — He had dark skin, brown curly hair and blue eyes, DNA tests suggest, upending a common assumption that Britain’s indigenous populations were all pale skinned with fair features.

He is “Cheddar Man,” Britain’s oldest complete skeleton, which was discovered in 1903 in Gough’s Cave near the village of Cheddar in Somerset, in southwest England. He lived about 10,000 years ago in the Mesolithic period, the middle part of the Stone Age.

Scientists have now reconstructed his features, demonstrating that he was part of a population of ancient Western Europeans that, scientists have shown in recent years, had dark skin. Research has shown that fair skin pigmentation — long considered a defining feature of Europe — only goes back less than 6,000 years.

The research was led by the Natural History Museum and University College London. A news release about the research was released Wednesday, but the study has not yet been published in a peer-reviewed journal.

“I first studied Cheddar Man more than 40 years ago, but could never have believed that we would one day have his whole genome — the oldest British one to date,” said Prof. Chris Stringer, research leader in human origins at the Natural History Museum.
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Cheddar Man, Britain’s oldest skeleton, was discovered in 1903 in southwest England. Scientists have now analyzed his ancient DNA. Credit London Natural History Museum

“To go beyond what the bones tell us and get a scientifically based picture of what he actually looked like is a remarkable and from the results quite a surprising achievement,” said Professor Stringer, who first excavated fossils at Gough’s Cave 30 years ago.

The new research shows that Cheddar Man belonged to a population known as Western hunter-gatherers, who first migrated to Europe about 14,000 years ago, he said. Today, about 10 percent of British ancestry can be linked to that population.

For decades Britons have debated over where they came from and what defines the nature of their genetic heritage.

As scientists are retrieving more DNA from ancient Britons, they are discovering how the isles received wave after wave of immigrants over tens of thousands of years.

This growing knowledge of ancient British genetics is allowing researchers to reconstruct the biology of early Britons — including their skin color.

“What may seem a truth — that people who feel British should have white skin — through time it’s not all something that is an immutable truth,” said Yoan Diekmann, a biologist at University College London who took part in the research.

Researchers studying the skin of living people have been able to determine how some variants influence pigmentation. When humans arose in Africa 300,000 years ago, recent research shows, they had a mixture of light and dark variants.

Humans first arrived in Europe from Africa about 45,000 years ago. Western hunter-gatherers migrated from the Near East much later, mostly replacing the Europeans already there.

Researchers studying a Spanish 7,000-year-old fossil first discovered that at least some Western hunter-gatherers were most likely dark-skinned and blue eyed. Later research confirmed this finding.

Until now, no one knew the affinity of Cheddar Man. The new research shows that he was part of the Western hunter-gatherer population.

“Before, we didn’t know what population lived in Britain, because we didn’t have a genome from there,” Dr. Diekmann said.

Studying a more recent skeleton, the researchers found evidence for the arrival of farmers in England, who descended from people in the Near East. These people carried some variants for lighter skin.

Researchers have found genetic variants for light skin in Sweden and elsewhere farther east dating to 7,700 years ago. Later waves of people from the Near East and Central Asia also brought light-skin variants with them. Less than 6,000 years ago, Europeans generally shifted to this new color.

Why Europeans became white, and why it happened about 40,000 years after modern humans arrived in Europe, “are all pretty much open questions,” Dr. Diekmann said.

The DNA analysis on Cheddar Man was carried out by drilling a small hole into the ancient skull and pulling out bone powder, which supplies genetic information for the facial reconstruction.

His name came from the village where he was found. Archaeologists also found bones belonging to early human cannibals in Gough’s Cave that are thought to have existed nearly 5,000 years before Cheddar Man, but their DNA profile has no direct ancestry to him even though they were found in the same place.

Still, Cheddar Man has many living relatives.

One of them still lives in Somerset, according to a 1997 DNA experiment carried out by scientists at Oxford. He was identified as Adrian Targett, a high-school history teacher, who is related to Cheddar Man on his mother’s side, the study found.

Mr. Targett could not immediately be reached for comment on Wednesday, but in 1997 when a group of tourists from Los Angeles saw a sign with pictures that explained the relationship between the two men, one of them said, “They don’t look anything alike.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/07/world/europe/uk-cheddar-man-skeleton-skin.html