₦airaland Forum

Elder0001:
Pdp has to take the governorship elections in the SS seriously if not apc might just clear everywhere. Labour party is eating into a huge chunk of pdp votes without doing anything to apc. This leaves pdp weak, giving apc enough free-hand to ride to victory just like in the presidential election at the national level.

Labour party is just ruining things for pdp at every level. It's beginning to seem as if there's an agreement between APC and labour party.

@itsrm

I do not think the same thing we saw will happen with the governorship election except PO will be on the ballot again.

Plus there will be voter apathy seeing what has just happened with the presidential. If you spent 6 hours on the queue to vote only to see votes from your PU magically reduced from say 166 to 10, will you bother with any election again?

That's how I see it, I may well be wrong.

Theflint1:
Did you show Gloriousgbola this empirical evidence before he jumped to believe you, yet disbelieved Spy360?

If you noticed I agreed with your assertion that people had to use Wifi to upload results, but at the same time while the results for HOR and Senate elections were uploading, the one for presidential elections didn't upload and it was the same thing across several polling stations around the one I voted.

And as regards doxxing, you'd be fine as long as you don't have a heated argument with any of the doxxing bros.

I do get your point. There's definitely the network factor affecting uploads as well as the human factor.

seankafor:
this is an overkill

It's not like you're a saint yourself. Did you not just do something similar to laride

Theflint1:
Why did you not ask Itsrm for his empirical data on him saying people were using their phone WiFi with the BVAS machine before you chose to believe it?

Una sha want make I dey less anonymous than this.

God no go gree.

This was from our whatsapp group. Do you still need empirical evidence?

Theflint1:
The infrastructure wasn't designed to stream online meetings, it was designed to send jpegs. The same infrastructure allowed for the uploads of HOR and Senate results, but prevented the uploads of presidential election results.

Have you seen the size of some of those files? I had to restart my phone before I was able to download one of them earlier today. It was 14MB

It does seem like there was no restriction on the size of file they can upload.

GloriousGbola:
Your dedicated polling station would have a hard wired network connection to an always available isp.

Anything less than that and you will continue to have upload failures, imho.

Omo, this will cost a lot of money. Plus ISPs charge a monthly subscription fee for that kind of service whether you use it or not.

GloriousGbola:
What infrastructure?

Maybe someone can correct me - but what actual network infrastructure is available to inec?

Have you tried refreshing pages when your Internet connection is misbehaving?

Have you tried sending docs via WhatsApp when your connection is paraing

What about online meetings?

They had a 4G SIM from MTN and some other providers. There were issues here and there with it.

GloriousGbola:
Proper electronic transmission of results will require much more capital investment and possibly dedicated polling stations. Maybe inec can rent bandwidth from starlink in 2027.

Most of our isps are too flaky to provide a real time reliable connection to the server.

For most of yesterday my airtel was acting up so badly I thought my modem was faulty.

Glo has always been shit.

Swift is good but on Sunday signal kept disappearing. Now imagine you are doing an upload to your inec server and signal is failing every 30 seconds

You are right.

Most presiding officers had to use the wifi on their phones to operate BVAS because its own network was acting up

GloriousGbola:
Proper electronic transmission of results will require much more capital investment and possibly dedicated polling stations. Maybe inec can rent bandwidth from starlink in 2027.

Will this be worth it for an election that only happens once in four years? Rivers state alone has over 4000 polling units

And most importantly, why do we need it?

CrystalTiger:
Haba na Bros

PDP is the worst opposition party ever abeg

I was speaking in terms of structure on ground. As it stands, they are still the ones that can stand toe to toe with APC. If they had their house in order, Keyamo would have been the Orubebe of yesterday

GloriousGbola:
PDP is done imho. They have the same problem apc (lagos) has. Too much initial success has made them indolent and lazy and dependent on handout rather than actual relationship management

I hope not. They are still the only decent opposition to APC we have.

Theflint1:
I sure say Wike dey reason say if e over cook am, even if they finally undercook am for tribunal, BAT go still get the 25%.

But then again, Wike is an extremist, there's hardly ever a sense of moderation for people like that.

Do you know Ameachi with all the federal might and intimidation could not see 25% in the state. Getting BAT 25% was decent work already and he still would have made his point. Without him, I doubt BAT would have seen 5% of votes.

VoteTinubu2023:
Are you not anonymous here? Why are you scared to tell us?

No one is truly anonymous online.

My children are still young and need my presence as they grow.

Oasis003:


If PDP didn't push out Obi, worked for him, perhaps he would have won. Obi was already gathering momentum before he even declared at all.

I remember he was pressured to buy ticket by youths on social media at initial stage, that he shouldn't run as a vice for Atiku.

PDP failed to read the game, now they are paying heavily for it.

Thanks to Atiku and those around him


The chatter around the party was that the ticket was goung to be zoned to the South.

However, Atiku and those around him quickly went to buy form because they thought it was their best shot at returning to power since Buhari wasn't contesting.

When zoning eventually came up, the excuse was that because people already bought forms and they can't return money, it had to be thrown open.

Funny thing is, these same people are the ones spinning the story and blaming Wike for Obi leaving the party when they were the ones who plotted it all.

I do concede however that even if they had zoned it to the South, Obi would not have won in a contest between him and Wike. The only way he stood any chance was if they all decide to hand the ticket to him.

A lot of mistakes were made. I can only hope they can come back together, give him the 2027 ticket and see how things pan out.

Emaprince:
I said here that they were destroying Obis result and rewriting their own. Obis winning kept bombarding them...and they continued destroying them and rewriting. It was a massive job for them.

The first set of results transmitted online that I saw on Sunday were not this bad. All these irregularities happened much later. If you want to rig at least be smart about it and make it less obvious. Tinubu had no business getting more than 25% in the state. I really don't know what they were thinking.

BlueRayDick:
Abeg those who know much about Rivers state and it's politics, is there any iota of truth that Wike belongs to Reformed Ogboni Confraternity?

I've always seen the rumor flying around and I know Wike has since denied it. But then, even a man caught with blood dripping from his hands in a crime scene will plead not guilty in court.

Cc: Ibime, itsrm

I can't discuss these things on social media bro. If to say you dey with me, l'll tell you everything I know.

chrisooblog:
Itsrm Rivers collation don turn to drama o. Prof wey dey handle the collation don adjourn the matter until further notice sey people dey threaten him life. Police beg, agents beg him no gree Naija and drama.

If I were to guess, it will either be coming from PDP members working for Atiku or those in support of Obi. The result has been cooked for APC already. I don't see why they will threaten his life.

Did he announce any other local government before he adjourned?

Donjazet2:
You even missed the main thing.

If you look well, you see that on the labor party result, a paper was used to cover the original scores, then another numbers was written on it. Check the score side both number and words column, zoom in well.

That's what I'm saying na. The handwriting was even different. Look at how the T in Ten was written in the Labour Party result and compare with how it was written for PDP.

What this tells me is that, someone wrote the actual result at the polling unit, another person edited it elsewhere before it was uploaded

I have gone on INEC site myself and its not the usual propaganda. It was right there in my face

Donjazet2:
I need you guys to look at this INEC result on the result portal.

Please zoom very well into the LP result and tell me what you see. Just zoom in well.

Chai. Even the handwriting is also different.

And this na part of the Obio Akpor I dey bank on

Spy360:
Going back to PDP may be the easy option knowing that many old heads would have fallen off. But that may be detrimental to the foundation of goodwill of the general masses he has built through LP.

PDP has a bad history with Nigerians while LP is coming with a clean slate.

PDP has the structure but LP is now gaining structure with a lot of sympathy from ordinary Nigerians.

He should take the Buhari route to presidency.

He should encourage his movement to continue till the next election, and may be find a way to build alliances with disgruntled PDP people especially in the north and middle belt.

He should not go back to PDP because PDP has a bad history with Nigerians but he can take disgruntled members of the same PDP. Wetin con be the difference. Old wine same bottle.

I also see that Obidients have not learnt much from the just concluded elections. APC with all their bad history just won the election. He needs to leverage on PDPs structure at the National level. Buhari did the same by leveraging on ACNs structure. Any other thing is a waste of time.

Oasis003:


You renewed Obidients hope for 2secs...... why?

Let me edit it and add Rivers state

Donjazet2:
When you people keep saying this, you keep missing the point.

Obi is not even the one running this campaign so to speak!! This was a movement powered by the people, especially the youths, through the internet, using obi as their vehicle.

I mean, look at Peter Obi well, does this look like a man who habors deep rooted ambitions?? No? I won't even be surprised if after this election has been done rigged, hopefully unsuccessfully, this man just retires from politics even with the monumental gains he has just made.

This is a modest man who ojukwu plucked from nowhere and crowned his person in the face of the mighty PDP. A man who did not seek to impose his own successor in the state but allow the party's Democratic choice.

I'm just saying, unlike the 2 old candidates who nursed serious lifetime ambitions to be president for the sake of it, this man has just accepted the gift of nature. Being at the right place at the right time. The youths chose him as their vehicle. That's why he had general acceptance. They wanted a way out. Out of the mess nigeria is but the corrupt establishment will just not go down without a fight.

This is my problem with you guys. Was it the youths who also chose him as vice to one of those old candidates you so love to vilify in 2019?

You said he didn't install his successor. Well, I don't know much about Anambra politics but I read he brought Obiano from Fidelity bank and installed him as Governor. I also read that both of them fell out because he wanted Obiano to pay him 75 billion which he claimed was money spent on his campaign.

If you think Obi does not have his own personal ambition or that he will not try to run again in 2027 then I have a bridge to sell to you.

Obi will be back in PDP. We will see how you'll try to spin the narrative when it happens.

Emmynator:
Does that mean a mood swing to obidients today? 😂
Modified: on a second thought, you may be talking about Rivers State.

Absolutely

APC don will nationally already na. There's no magic coming from anywhere

Donjazet2:
Where is this from?

I've been unable to see a good credible site with the accurate live updates so far. I've searched and searched.

Someone sent to me as gotten from the collation centre.

I will not say it's a 100% accurate but I don't think he would have lied about it.

Mainstream media will soon carry it.

Itsrm:
LP is leading now with 42% of votes. APC closely behind with 37% of votes and PDP doing 21%

Important to note that Obio Akpor is still being expected.

Melvyn11:
I think Obi gambled on Datti being the brother of the NEF's spokesman. Also he needs to completely change his approach on how he enters the North if he is coming for future elections. He needs to form long term alliances with at least 2 Zones.

The most important thing is to leave Labour Party. He will not achieve anything with that Party except Labour will Merge with NNPP and PDP and rebrand as a new party.

Oasis003:


PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION RESULT FROM RIVERS STATE

APC: 119,334
PDP: 64,029
LP: 88,848
NNPP: 631


NB: I have not verified it yet.

LP is leading Rivers with 42% of votes. APC closely behind with 37% and PDP doing 21%

chrisooblog:
Stears was wise enough to leave a back door open for their predictions.

They said if there is low voter turnout Tinubu would win and it seems that is coming to pass.

When I told theflint1 that the stears poll was neither here nor there and that they were playing safe, he said that was what their data said

Melvyn11:
What exactly is the point of Datti? He couldn't even give Labor party the minimum 25% in Kaduna.

One of the many mistakes they made. In fairness to them, no strong politician would have left his party for Labour at the time.

Graysons:
Lol, I thought you guys said Obi is going to win in Rivers state, what happened now?

He will win. The margin may not be much though

Josephase:
When this happens, people will get poorer because salary will not increase and every commodity will multiply. Companies will choose to downsize so will all should be ready but I don't think removing subsidy will make fuel get as high as 800.

Based on current oil prices, 650/litre if the importers have to source dollars from the black market, 450/litre if the CBN gives them dollars