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Backslider:
Much as I respect Kumuyi. Anyone can Go to Hell.

When you Change your Natural appearance to that of others you will meet your maker. You may laugh from Argentina to Zimbabwe.

You are forewarned flee sin. Seek Righteousness. You will have your day in Court with God The Judge of all men.

@ Ivie

Men will continue to deform their bodies and they will come back and ask you don't you rubb pomade on your body? You just watch the Church is now corrupting the world. You will soon see Natural moral men saying that the Church has brought evil in the world. Already they are doing it with money.

There is a scripture for those type of people - every tree my Father has not planted will be rooted out. Those people indeed will be rooted out as scripture dictates. True, decadence'll occur but not from the church.

You are appeciated. I always had it in mind that women had no authority over men lest Jezebel creeps in. Another issue I have has to do with women and hair covering in the church. I know God is going to answer me someday. There is a spirit in the air that needs to be arrested before the Lord Jesus returns. Only if we Christians would take our positions in Christ and start tearing strongholds down, possesing the land and return the victory to the true church. The church is sleeping. God will help us all.

@Bac

I am aware of the rhema and the Jehu-turnover that will befall the earth.  You waste power when you argue with people that don't take your word the first time.  The ministry of intercession is what the earth needs.  There are trees that needs to be uprooted.  Many people are straight-up deceiving themselves.

The thread just proved to you that you are at the wrong place

sanrima:
@ ivvie
the poster only asked to be hooked up with a real naija woman not a lesson or sermon from u okay?
u said nigerian ladies are not real, they are self centered annd full of issues abi?
but the way you're sounding is letting me know that there might be more to this, i wonder if a naija babe has ever taken your boyfriend from u.
like chaloo said u get to meet diff kinds of people with diff characters all around so please don,t limit it to nigerian ladies okay?
shouldn,t u be surprised that a nigerian brother still wants a nigerain sister even with all their self ceteredness and issues? that is to say there is more to nigerian sisters than u know okay?

I agree with you, there is more to nigerian girls than self centeredness and issues. Keep in mind that birds of a feather will definitely flock together. I will only deem respect because that is what is due and appropriate for this post but doesn't change my opinions which has and is best reserved to me.

@Ricade

Leave him alone and pray for him. You cannot change a man's mind. Only God can. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. I don't know what he has said in the past and not ready to care either. I do believe that he is very much inline with God's word. You don't strife with people. From the little I have read on his posts, God is actually stricter than all he has said (though he erred on one of his lines). Jesus warned that except your righteousness surpasses that of the pharises, you won't enter the kingdom of God. The pharisees were righteous, godly and exhibited a high level of holiness - besides their hypocricy. Your goal is to be spotless or have a spotless garment when Christ returns. Show a little compassion and in your right, place your issue against the poster to the throne of grace. That way, it's no longer your problem. You did not die on the cross, Jesus did and it doesn't profit the kingdom of God if it fights each other.

@Labi


You are welcome, Man. Have a great evening.

Well, you are dead wrong.  The simple directive that I gave you (if you wanted to know what I meant) was to go through your bible from the first page to the last excluding the concordance.  I made no statement that you assumed.  I am not assuming anything nor making conclusions. Until you've done that, don't come to any conclusion.

@Labiyemmy


You have a bible, don't you. Go through the contents from the first to the very last page and filter what is right and what's wrong.

The thirst of your curiosity would be quenched.


Peace

@rica

Sincerely, all God wants from your own side is to pray for him in your own innocence.  In your own understanding of what you deem as right and wrong.  That way, God lifts you  up.  My ministry is prayer.  Whenever people grieve or offend me and I do nothing, the consequences are usually not funny.  God deals with them thoroughly.  It's the same to those that dig a pit for me.  It's the same for any true child of God (I'm not saying you aren't).  90% of what he is saying is right and for the sake of peace and building-up, I won't emphasize on them.  You cannot change a man.  Everything I know about the christian walk was revealed to me by God through consecration and sanctification.  Many Christians are not consecrated, thus being of little use to God.  You dare not do anything to a consecrated Christian.  God himself will see to it that he deal with you while he gives you time to repent.  I'm not being fanatic.  My very first job, I never knew people could spot a Christian without asking.  I was asked to pray for a missing person, the person was found two days after.  Also, I was always made fun off at work and a person also harrassed me persistently.  I took the matter to God and the following day, the person never returned.  She left all her stuff but never returned.  The rest of my colleagues were put on final and would be fired if my boss ever heard a whisper against me.  That's God's glory for you.  (Just one out of many). Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord! All he has to do is nothing and God takes over. The same principle should be in operation in your life if you are true child of God. You should never strife.

You don't know him, but he is on your side (if you are a Christian). He might be a baby Christian or may be someone seriously seeking more of the Father.  Just pray for him.  He doesn't need any more persecution than what the world offers to him.  No one is perfect, the fall of Adam was a gradual process, same with the birth of Christ. 

Psalm 9  .17:  The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.  

The fact that everyone does the same thing doesn't mean it's right.  Nations that forget God will be cast to hell.  If an entire continent is caught within a fad, God will put that nation in hell.  Deut made it clear that you should not follow the multitude to do evil.  I just had to stress on this.  We have been commanded to work out our salvation with trembling and fear.


Thanks for the meaning of his name.  Someone on another thread made it seem his name was symbolic to something derogatory.

Grace

Be careful Ricade, you don't know this person. 90% of what he has said is true. I don't know him either. The only thing God will want form you is to pray for him. Even in his err. If God has opened his eyes to some of what he is saying, you don't have the right to shut it. God is not a decision for anyone to play with. We have different people in the body of Christ. You don't know his purpose on earth. By principle of spiritual authority, be very careful. If he had no love, he wouldn'thave shared what he understands.

The meaning to his screen name is what I am yet to found out.

Truth will always remain the truth. That's all I am boiling at. I'm not trying to convince you. I am not also trying to say that you should believe everything a person says. If you are inclined to the truth and hate deception, you'll always recognise it when you come across it. Otherwise, one isn't a wise person.

I was partly brought up in Nigeria so you cannot identify me as a Nigerian till I tell you that I am one. I am so not rude. The same traits that I mentioned is the common factor with all the nigerians that I have met (and still will meet). The girls are sarcastic - can barely make 10 sentences without a comment of sarcasm. It's impossible to relate to them on a normal plane. I won't go any further because it's just built up. I have 20 years worth of disgust as far as girls are concerned.

I have no beef with Nigeria or nigerians. That is my root and I am proud not to be labelled as a black with no roots. I have only 6 nigerian friends that treat me like a brother.

Look up specimen.  And not just nairaland but nigerians here in the States.  Rude! Rude and not well mannered.  Where did they come from?  Your conclusion is yours and mine is mine.  It'll be that way.

The deep and secret things belong to God. I will seek the Lord on this case. He will reveal it to me. At this point, it's just in suspense till the Spirit of God teaches me the right way or path. As for women, they have their own callings. They have to stick within the boundaruies ordained for them.

I leave the issue to God till I get a clear revelation.

@labiyemmi

What is the meaning of Okababa?

[quote author=@labiyemmy link=topic=73557.msg1625989#msg1625989 date=1193581655]Reading a bible verse in isolation and quoting it in isolation throws away the intent of the original writer.

Its an admonition that women should not teach or boss a man - but not necessarily saying a woman should not teach or spread the gospel un church or to men in general.

If verse 12 is so literarily interpreted, then verse 9 should be as well, which means, nobody will put on gold or costly clothes to church, but then this is relative, what is costly to you may not be costly to somebody else.[/quote]What was your point of view? A woman cannot boss a man. You just contradicted yourself.

Pastor Kumoyi is not the only true pastor in Africa, though I listen and read his sermons. They are extremely rich.

The other criterias are true, paint your lips, cross dress and participate in all other forms of perversion will cost you indeed.

Christianity is not a bed of gold. People want to eat their cake and have it. Jesus said if you were to be with him, take up your cross and follow him. That is also part of the cross you'll have to bear with. Santification is a "painful" yet slow process but in it, you have power the world doesn't.


Why must there be insults. And you call yourselves heaven-bound Christians. God will help all of us.

Purist:
And this makes it a "Nigerian thing"?

I used nairaland as suppose to a specimen of the entire region.

There is a limit to which women can preach. Going beyond that limit is nothing short of the spirit of Jezebel at work.

@Ibisobrown


Blood covenants in the life of a spiritual man is the hardest yoke to break. There are two types; one with terms associated to it and the other with no terms. Irregardless, they are still pact. If you have sex with anyone, you have entered into a blood covenant (no matter how you deem it). The covenant you entered cutting your finger is a blood covenant of initiation. You have initiated yourself. When you get born-again (of which you should), problems will begin to arise because the old nature will conflict with the new nature and man that has been regenerated. You are to actively confess that sin and begin renouncing and breaking those fetters you have placed around your life.

Being born again does not remove it, it only the beginning. Abram was God's best friend and years, he was childless. Jesus had no sin yet he was tempted. The problems and issues of life has no respect for anyone. You'll have to go into serious prayer and fasting (it may take a span of time but take courage) and use the scriptures as your sword to break all the yokes associated. The bible also describes this as handwritings that needs to be blotted out.

Look for an intercessor and speak honestly to him. A few sentences would be translated to a sermon in his spirit man. He'll be able to assist you from there. Whatever he tells you becomes authority over you because you become surbodinate to him.

Lastly, if your church doesn't preach on holiness, deliverance, santification and prayer, leave that church. The objectives of the gospel is not being fulfilled there. You'll only have yourself to blame.


Shalom.

chaloo:
@Khai/Ivvie

I don't agree with you and I am sure there would be many others who wont. Nigerian women are like women from any other country. They are no different.

You don't have to believe it.  You are no different from the person that doesn't believe he'll sink in water when he walks on it.  Or the man that doesn't believe in gravity and walks off the roof of a sky scraper.  The truth respects nobody but violate it and it'll prove itself superior to you - of which you must obey. 

Nigerian women are not like women of other parts of the world. For the sake of peace, I'll reserve further comments. For the sake of those that use generalisation as a shield or offense, it's what a nation is described by.

Easybaby:
You don't mean it

I do mean it.  It is so-o-o true.

Gamine:
Nigerians are insulting??

i didnt know being a nigerian is insultive

to whom, if i may ask

this topic holds no weight

as if geographically boundaries hv anything to do with our internal make-up

9ja4eva:
Welll said

This is a situation where fact(s) differ from reality.

Nigerians make up nairaland, go through nairaland and conclude on your observation. There is hardly a thread without insults. Lets not deceive ourselves.

@Ricade


That's ok. It's all good. That epistle wasn't for the pastor but an extreme example of emulation. If you arent caucasian, then you are no one should not be in our minds - no matter what.

The straightening and pattern of that hair is the same type as Benny Hinn. Pastr O just has his a lot shorter.

@ricade

I believe you have been following the topic.  Emulation's what I was stressing!  It wasn't just for you alone so, don't single yourself out and finalise it.  It will be the same gospel that will speak against you someday if you don't seat and accept what the word has to say.  I don't have anything against you so don't come lashing.  Read and then try to apply before expressing yourself rudely. I leave you to God to judge.

Another extreme example

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ricadelide:
and i'm guessing its also wrong to apply cream to your skin, apply deodourant, use a body spray, cut your hair, wear perfume or even, more to home, brush your teeth with a man-made toothpaste (rather than rinse it with water).
Furthermore, God did not create us wearing clothes - even when Adam fell God used a covering of skin - therefore wearing another kind of cloth rather than that made of skin is "look(ing) as God did not create you" and therefore a sin.

Just where or when are you going to draw the line when you've decided to go down this slippery road?

God isn't saying that. Trying to be white isn't right. Being what you aren't is where the picture is. Christians use perfumes - nothing wrong with that. Remember the oil of alabaster?! That isn't the point. Going to change your gender is what is an example (though extreme). You are fearfully and wonderfully made. Why straighten your hair with hot combs and jherry curls? It's because you aren't happy with yourself. Being worldly!

@ kulashaker

Those pastors you mentioned are not conventional pastors.  They aren't even Christians themselves.  A man that practices necromancy is not a Christian.  Many of those pastors are paid by the government to keep their mouth shut.  "Faith funds"

@ to those concerned:

It is wrong to wear stick on your lips, perm your hair and look as God did not create you.  Perming of hair started during segregation in the United States and some mullatos passed for white.  Later, it was a means of being accepted.  Today, a woman cannot have her natural hair to work without being written up or spoken about as untidy.  I wonder when it became a sin to be african decent.  Emulations is a serious sin.  All those attachments or extension; being what you are not. 

Those of you with Discerning of spirits should be able to discern that all isn't right.

A church also where the pastor is glorified than God himself should be a church to flee from.

Who is this pastor? If I can recollect, he was a follower of a leader that performs healing by hypnotising through eye contact.

@Backslider

Matt 10 .14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

The Spirit of God does not tolerate arguments. There are simply blinded hearts amongst those asking innocent questions. You cannot change nor convert people. Leave them to God. Some people are just inclined to heresy. Leave them alone. There will always be a time of accountability. There will also be a time when they will give an account. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit is saying. The question is "Is man a hearing spirit?"

You can't get such a person unless you have travailed in intercession. Remember the principle "Interferences of the forces of life." Depending on who you are, you'd not have made this post (if you knew your right from left).

n.b. you won't view my reply as an insult if you are godly-minded. You should've been able to translate an epistle from the sentences made.

Grace.