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bobestman:
I have known you here for a very long time and perfectly understand your beliefs and how you always want to proov your science and athiesm is best for humanity. All I can tell you is that you are in error. You believe in science cos of your evidence. I believe in spirituality and humanity cos of my own evidence and things I have seen

Lol you will never believe untill it hit you one day. They don't need to prove it but to hit you with watin no good one day. The same way the op don't believe but now he is facing a spiritual case. This his case might be a spell cast on him too. They play unti it hit you one day

Lol. There is only one evidence. There is no 'many types of evidence'. Evidence can be reproduced anywhere,anytime and by one. Can the evidence of your spirituality be reproduced? No
And how did you know the op is an atheist?
And why is it that anytime I ask Christians for evidence of anything,instead of preferring the evidence they tell me so so so would hit me? Are you guys such sadists? Not that I'm afraid,but its becoming funny

femi4:
Your answer show you never did

Again,what did the space exploration do that suggest science points to god?

Gotocourt:
Ayotolallah Ali Khamenei yet to be buried 9weeks after. His successor and son Ayatollah Mojtaba is believed to dead despite the regime claiming he's injured and undergoing treatment.
They've been put in check 🤷🏿.

Lets assume all you said is true
Isn't it wonderful that a country without a leadership has fought the US,a world power, and Israel,a strong country,and still managed to hold its own? Although they took damages,they managed to destroy 12 US bases, planes and equipment worth hundreds of billions of dollars. Israel lost all their air defense and many cities. They control the Strait and in a position of power to cut deals with the US. Trump cannot bomb them cos the repercussions would be terrible

nairalanda1:
Even then it won't reduce oil.and fuel prices yet.

Oil installations have been damaged, plus the Hormuz strait may have been mined ie floating bombs in the sea. Its going to take months before things go back to normal

You're talking months? Analysts are estimating years. The GCC countries are worse off. Oil spills take time to mop. Mines are there to sweep. If it takes 1 year,its quick
All because Trump had a stvpid idea

femi4:
Did you watch the last moon exploration

Yes we did,what about it

femi4:
Yes....even science point to the direction that God exist

Which science?
You christians would wake up and be feeding yourselves with lies

mysticwarrior:
We dont chain psychotic patients. Those were your words.

The chains you depicted in that pic is not in use in psychiatric hospitals. We use straitjackets
That picture was not taken in a psychiatric hospital,it was in the community,probably street

Kobojunkie:
I wouldn't be so sure it isn't. It is possible that there were dissociative symptoms, but he did not pay mind to them, as many people don't.😒

There's no dissociative symptoms. Besides he has insight, which is a good symptom

foleskay:
If not for Christianity, this world would still be in total darkness.

The greatest scientists who brought enlightenment were devout Christians.

Isaac Newton

Michael Faraday.

Newton wasnt a Christian and it wasnt your god that made such scientific discoveries, it was scientific observations

bobestman:
Hahaha the way you believe you have prove in what you believe is also same way others believe they have prove in what they chosed to believe

The difference between us is i believe in science,which can be proven anytime,anyday,anywhere. For example,i can prove if i pour acid on paper,it will dissolve.
You can't prove your spirituality. If I ask anyone to prove odieshi is real,all I hear is go to one obscure village

bobestman:
Oga stop the games. Am beyond that

Your ancestors are those who came before you. Your great grand fathers. It could also be those who were here when the earth began. They are highly spiritual people who work with nature and di great things. So some of us have some traits that they have. They know how to deal with this kind cases. They existed when science was nature. Science is manipulating nature to get what they want. Whatever they do have their root in nature. Your believe I. Bible doesn't matter.

This post reeks of pure ignorance.
You dont know what science is. If I ask you to prove your spirituality,I'll have another round of 'dem talk say'
If u can't prove anything, then this convo is useless

bobestman:
All your replies here shows your case is not a mental case but spiritual. If you follow him cos you hate spirituality you might become a customer in psychiatrist Institution

You only hear them. They aren't hurting you but just laugh. Things that might cause it
You might be a spiritual person but refuse to answer or follow the path. Your spiritual forces might do all that to get you back. Some who refused to answer their calling ran mad

It might be a spell cast on you by someone who hate you to make you uncomfortable and be running around. Are your hands clean? Do you hurt people?

First confront this people without fear first and see if they will leave or say what they want? That's how you know the problem. If you are spiritual you could pray and command them to leave you

Their is nothing wrong being spiritual or religious. All have their Truths and some wrong. They always ha e a way to handle this. I feel you are a spiritual person who don't want to follow that path. Atheism will make you nothing. When you believe in nothing and kill the inner voice within you, you become nothing even when gone

Can you prove all this spiritual hullabaloo,ir is it just another case of dem say

mysticwarrior:
I have seen psychiatric patients in chains in Uselu Benin City, Edo state. Or don't they put them in chains to restrain them physically?

I just talked about physical restraint which includes chaining,didn't I?

mysticwarrior:
Leave him let him follow the advice of those saying it's a mental illness and he should seek help from a professional, he would end up being chained and locked up in a psychiatric evaluation center.

Ignorance personified.
We dont chain psychotic patients. We only restrain violent and manic psychotic patients and before we even do that we try chemical restraint before the physical restraint.
The way you guys expose your iifmorancge of medical process is amazing,and some of you would still argue with doctors online

Kobojunkie:
Voices want you to have depression, or is it the case that you hear the voices because you already have symptoms of depression? 😒

2. Please see a psychiatrist immediately. 😒

3. WOW.... kind of like DID(Dissociative Identity Disorder)? When did this problem really start? Was there a traumatic experience that came before you noticed this problem? 🤔
Does any of the information at the following website make sense to your situation? https://did-research.org/did/myths

Again, see a Psychiatrist asap. 🤔

Its not DID. There would have been dissociative symptoms and many of them dont have insight like him

bobestman:
The difference is that the schizophrenic patient has mental issues while the poor christian don't

The schizophrenic patient saying his father is the king of the world, we agree that he is wrong cos he has a mental disorder

The poor christian saying same thing might not be wrong cos his problem is bases on believe cos of what he has seen or heard. Our ancestors spoke with unseen being. Its also possible in spirituality. In religion their are countless example on the issue. One his God calling Samuel in the bible but he was afraid. The priest told him to tell the voice to speak whenever he heard it again. He did and everything he was told was fulfilled in the bible. This things can be proved traditionally, spiritually and religiously.

My advise to him is to summon courage and speak to the voice and hear them out. He can also declare that he has nothing with them that they should leave him alone. It might work since he don't believe in anything. Better than being afraid and becoming a psychiatrist patient. In all the people in psychiatrist hospitals how many have you healed? Most of their cases are spiritual not medical.

U misunderstand me.
If I get 2 people and they both tell me they have rich fathers even though they are visibly poor,how would you decipher the Christian and schizophrenic?
What do you mean 'our ancestors spoke with unseen beings'?
And no I don't believe the bible. The stories there have been proven to be untrue.
And yes,we do heal many psychotics. Take a trip to psychiatric wards and see for yourself, instead of echoing people outside

usebog:
Sometimes, when I act like I see them or I just face one direction. They will be saying among themselves that this guy see us? No he can never see us. How can he see us? Then they laugh

Do they repeat your thought? Do they insert thoughts into your head? Do you also see them? Do they discuss others? Etc

usebog:
They talk about me. They want me to be sad. They are not talking in third person. They will talk so I can hear and be sad. I don't want to hear voices again. I'm afraid

Can you do an example of the speech content

bobestman:
Hahaha yea. Do you think the problem here is mental disease?

So you believe mental diseases exist? Ok. How can you differentiate between a schizophrenic who says that his father is the king of the whole world,and a poor Christian living in the slum who believes his father is the ruler of the world?
I need concise information,please. Thank you

DrAda:
Oh well, having spiritual privileges will definitely be a blast.

You're dodging my question. Reread it and answer

triplechoice:
Listen for the last time. I never asked how to summon bees or conjure them. I asked for criteria. I didn't post the video. I'm a neutral bystander.The person who posted it concluded based on belief. And nothing like " here's the evidence of the man summoning the bees" in the video.

But your friend said, "no evidence of summoning" . That is itself a positive claim, an assertion of absence. You cannot assert " no evidence of X" unless you have some idea of what X would look like. It is basic logic. So yes, he made a positive claim, and I asked him to clarify his standard. And he did: . He said, "verbal announcement and coincidence " .But instead of you to correct him, you ignored him to attack me, confirming you are not here for any sincere debate.

" What would the evidence of child abuse look like"? is not the same as, "How do you abuse a child "?. If you continue to miss this clear distinction, I'm sorry, there's nothing else I can discuss with you. You will continue to misrepresent me and waste my time.


I asked a hypothetical question. "What would the evidence look like if the man were to have the power"?. This is not a direct request for evidence, or how to summon bees, but you continue to interpret it literally despite claiming to be highly educated .

Lets assume we dont know the 'evidence of summoning' looks like. Do you know?

bobestman:
You are hearing voices which is a spiritual thing but want to depend on atheists to solve it for you.

You may hate spirituality and religion and yea they have their truth and wrongs but they have answers in many issues like this better than science

Now they are advising you that you are gradually running mad. I guess that's the best for you since that's what you wanna hear

Spiritual issues require spiritual approach. Athiesm can never help you here cos the spiritual controls the physical. We were first spiritual beings before manifesting here on this plane. As spiritual beings with human experience we will encounter such spiritual stuffs

Just like everything are in twos good and bad so hearing voices could be positive or negative. Some dead relative may be trying to pass a message to you or trying to gain your attention on something. I can't discourage you in whatever path you wanna follow but the first thing to do here is to

Summon courage and ask the voice what is the problem? What do you want? Who are you? Don't be afraid. Be strong

Meditate on the issue. Sit quietly in a very calm place and ask what it want from you. Breath slowly. Ask and wait for answers. If you dream you may get answers through dreams or vision or even hear them out. Try and do that first since you don't believe in any spiritual or religious stuff. Many medical problems people face today has some spiritual tones

Do you believe mental diseases exist?

usebog:
I don't like spirituality at all. I don't want to get involved at all. I like myself like that but something strange has been happening. I have been hearing voices like 5 months ago now. I don't even understand what is going on, I don't understand what is going on. I had to travel from my city to another city but I keep hearing the voice. This is not natural. I've been ignoring the voices thinking it is my own brain playing tricks on me but it is not.

See a psychiatrist. At least you have insight. What you're having is called auditory hallucinations. Rhat is a psychotic symptom and could be schizophrenia. What do they talk about? Are they referring to you or others? Are they talking in first or third person? Many questions I wanna ask but I can't help you. I'm only a physician not a psychiatrist. We don't need another Dtruthspeaker abeg

Racoon:
https://www.gmc-uk.org/registration-and-licensing/join-our-registers/plab/changes-to-plab-1-in-2027

Good thing i exited the PLAB system. These guys just make changes anyhow they like

Greatdand007:
Doctor in the house what cause sudden fall in old age my mum fell 3 times today

Dehydration can cause that. Also head injury,a slow leaking subdural hematoma in the elderly is a culprit
Does she have any chronic disease or on chronic medication

DomPerignon:
A clear case of increasing cerebral malaria brought about by fake and substandard malaria drugs.

That child had very slim chance of surviving and that would involve being placed on ICU .

Most cases of cerebral malaria end up fatal.

Its most likely febrile convulsions due to malaria,not cerebral malaria. Cerebral malaria is rare at that age. Its more common in teens and young adults

Maryam1234:
This country is better we try our best to stay healthy than entrusting our lives in the hand of those incompetent Individuals who call themselves Dr

As a mom I have experienced my own share of their rude and I don't care behaviours and alhamdulilah for a lesson well learnt

I commiserate with the parents but honestly government won't give a damn about this situation except they drag them on social media

None of those incidents stated there is the doctors fault. If you can read properly, they started emergency management immediately and were actively resuscitating the child. Unavailability of plaster isn't doctors fault. And yes,movement of an unstable baby to ICU is correct protocol. Patients shouldnt be in emergencies for more than 6 hrs. This is cos of space availability. We always keep space for future emergencies.
You people just like hanging doctors in any death case no matter who's at fault. No wonder allman dey japa

DrAda:
I usually don't know what to make out of these stories when I read them. My first instinct is to make a diagnosis of a psychotic disorder but then again, it is possible that I am not spiritually strong to have a close encounter of the third kind. Maybe one day i will get that priviledge

Its schizophrenia, or at least a psychotic disorder. If a patient presents in front of you with these complaints, would you tell him or her to wait til you get some 'spiritual privileges' to understand him or her? You simply refer take a mental state exam or at least refer to the psychiatrists

Lovelink1991:
You cannot shoot an unarmed person and you can only shoot if you are tired of your job

Obviously you dont live in Nigeria

triplechoice:
Wrong. I didn't ask him to provide evidence. I asked him what would be the evidence of summoning look like since he made a positive claim
You can't claim no evidence of X if you don't have some idea of what X would look like..

He didn't make a positive claim. He simply said there was no evidence. If the Op has evidence, he or she would deposit it. Simple. Stop capping
And yes,we all know how conjuring up bees look like. Remember we have eyes