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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 9:42pm On Jul 17

ValeeLove:
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The person Jesus told me so I believe. We can't see proof of Heaven, but as humans we are supposed to take the logical option and that option is Jesus.

Faith without work is dead. Work without faith is also dead.

They're Buddhists in China, but it wasn't a good example since they're mostly atheists.
UK & USA built their Nation as a Christian major country. That's my point. Belief in God doesn't stop you from thinking, it does the opposite even and makes you better as a person.

So why should you believe in Jesus since there is no historical evidence that he's a god? Would you believe other gods just because their holy books said to believe in them?
What has logic gotta do with religion? Religion believes in talking animals and bushes,mass resurrections, sun and moon standing still etc,which sre events that have not been proven to happen. So logic is out of the window for you.
So faith without work is dead? OK, so lemme ask a scenario. I have 3 students for an exam. One ONLY prayed and fasted with faith,the other prayed and read,while the third one ONLY read for the exam. Which of them would probably pass the exam?

Belief in god actually stops critical thinking. Remember the bible discourages thinking and even explicitly says for you not to lean on your own understanding

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 7:37pm On Jul 17

ValeeLove:
chill, what I mean is they most likely compiled it through documentation and diaries, eye witnesses accounts, personal experience and asking questions.

Do u even know what eye witness mean, or did the meaning change overnight?
Those purported authors didn't exist and it has been proven to be written years later,thus werent eye witness accounts

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 7:36pm On Jul 17

ValeeLove:
so who did and what evidence do you have to back it up?

The writers of the gospel are anonymous and it was written many years after Jesus's death,and they weren't eye witnesses
Even bible scholars and historians believe its anonymous

Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Defend This As A Christian? I Bet Your Pastor Never Told You This Verse by jaephoenix(m): 7:32pm On Jul 17

Kobojunkie:
1. The first verse is the most famous, which points out that the world(a figurative metonymy) is a reference to the Israelites in the context of John 3 vs 13 - 16.

Again, the notion that the YHWH OF Israel loves mankind is all created from religion.

So how do u know its a figurative metonynm since it wasnt stated there

Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Defend This As A Christian? I Bet Your Pastor Never Told You This Verse by jaephoenix(m): 5:40pm On Jul 17

Kobojunkie:
The book never in fact states that the God of Israel was an all-loving God. Not one passage or verse in all of the books of the Israelite Scripture claims His love extends to all of mankind. Rather, the idea that he loves all mankind was invented in religious circles.

Another thing is that the YHWH of Israel's definition of love differs entirely from yours or that of many religions out there. Something else to keep in mind. For instance, if you are under the idea that YHWH of Israel's love would treat your dead body in what humans describe as a humane, then you are entirely wrong.

John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life

Psalm 36:5–7
Your steadfast love, O LORD, extends to the heavens,
your faithfulness to the clouds.
Your righteousness is like the mountains of God;
your judgments are like the great deep;
man and beast you save, O LORD.

Romans 8:35–39
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or unclothedness, or danger, or sword? As it is written,

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Politics › Re: Senate Proposes N50,000 Fine For Preaching, Hawking In Buses by jaephoenix(m): 5:37pm On Jul 17

Guestmale:
May the Lord forgives you.Please give your life to Jesus, before it's too late because He can come at anytime lest expected.

John 14:6 KJV
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Christianity Etc › Re: Couple Claim They Are Jesus, Spark Reactions (Photos/Video) by jaephoenix(m): 4:35pm On Jul 17

TommyAnthem:
Lol, wonders shall never end. But what baffles me most is, how can a husband and his wife be insane at the same time. Isn't that strange?

Folie a deux

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 4:03pm On Jul 17

ValeeLove:
to every original there's always a fake. But Church of the Holy Sepulchre has the most authentic and trusted one.

And how do you know its the authentic one

Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Defend This As A Christian? I Bet Your Pastor Never Told You This Verse by jaephoenix(m): 4:01pm On Jul 17

brain54:
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God shows mercy and favor on whomever he wants.

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So he's elitist?
He's not all loving then grin

Politics › Re: Senate Proposes N50,000 Fine For Preaching, Hawking In Buses by jaephoenix(m): 3:55pm On Jul 17

Guestmale:
Whether you believe it or not Jesus is Lord and He is coming back again.

Whether you believe it or not the Flying Spaghetti Monster is Lord and He is coming back again.

Politics › Re: Senate Proposes N50,000 Fine For Preaching, Hawking In Buses by jaephoenix(m): 12:15pm On Jul 17

SonofElElyonRet:
Be deceiving yourselves.
Some atheists say "May The Force be with you".. That's God, dude!

Lol 😆
Are you aware where that quote came from? Its from Star Wars. And why do you think this force is your god and not Thor or the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
Christians Crack me up with ignorance 🤣
So because a minority of atheists believe in a force,then that automatically translates to your god? What makes you think its not other gods?
You guys make my day lol 😆

Politics › Re: Senate Proposes N50,000 Fine For Preaching, Hawking In Buses by jaephoenix(m): 12:13pm On Jul 17

SonofElElyonRet:
Atheists believe in an eternal impersonal force that caused the big bang yet they call it nothing.. breaking news dude... It's a personal force and His name is Yahweh... I AM WHO I AM

Which atheist told you that?
Why do you christians pull out all kinds of lies just to discredit atheists? Can you tell me why?

Politics › Re: Senate Proposes N50,000 Fine For Preaching, Hawking In Buses by jaephoenix(m): 12:11pm On Jul 17

Guestmale:
The greatest logical person,is the person that recognize and acknowledge his depravities and come to the Lord Jesus Christ for total deliverance and freedom.

Do you know what logic is? Oh my jingles!
Imagine a theist talking about logic? grin

So its logical to believe the whole world came from 2 people? Its logical to believe in talking animals and bushes,mass resurrections, and all those fairy tales in your bible?
Omo,I just laugh well well this morning

Politics › Re: Senate Proposes N50,000 Fine For Preaching, Hawking In Buses by jaephoenix(m): 7:47am On Jul 17

Guestmale:
I can perceive you're not a Christian,so you can't understand. It's only christians that can understand.

Of course the rvbbish u posted only makes sense to some niche people,not a right thinking logical person

Politics › Re: Senate Proposes N50,000 Fine For Preaching, Hawking In Buses by jaephoenix(m): 7:46am On Jul 17

SonofElElyonRet:
What do we have here? A dogmatic atheist who believes and has faith in something from nothing, order out of chaos and design out of chance/coincidence

Actually its Christians that believes that something came from nothing. You believe your god popped into existence from ......NOTHING! You believe he spoke and ..... boom! The universe popped into existence from ..... NOTHING!You believe he made the earth from .... NOTHING! You believe he made Adam from the dust,and where did the dust come from....NOTHING!
On the other hands,we atheists tell you we dont know how humans or universe came into existence but you had to lie that we say universe came from nothing

Politics › Re: Senate Proposes N50,000 Fine For Preaching, Hawking In Buses by jaephoenix(m): 12:27am On Jul 17

professore:
These men better fear God. God is real. God is very real.

No he's not real. Grow up

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Politics › Re: Senate Proposes N50,000 Fine For Preaching, Hawking In Buses by jaephoenix(m): 12:27am On Jul 17

Guestmale:
Whosoever propose this bill such person is digging his or her grave,the same thing goes for anyone of them voted in support of this devilish bill. Already you can't preach or sell inside government bus but extending this to public commercial buses is passing ones boundary. This is not about selling inside bus but codedly against evangelism. These people should not look for Gods anger.

So ur god isnt angry enough at the state of the corntree,hes not angry enough that his people are abducted even in his house he's not angry enough that his priests are graping children but he's angry they are stopping people from spraying other people saliva in the name of preaching? Issorite

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 6:21pm On Jul 16

ValeeLove:
I already told you there were multiple. This one is just stating the one that occured while Quirinius was governor. There was another prior, while Herod was alive which Quirinius still oversaw this time as a chief army official.

There was only ONE documented census. The others were false and no documents favor them. They were added after the Roman's found out that the only census documented would kill the veracity of the bible story

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 6:19pm On Jul 16

ValeeLove:
I don't get, is it a crime for me to retell things that happened 40 years before? Documentaries exist.

Do you think its easy to tell a story when it happened, or many years after it happened?
Documentaries are made from literature that was made when the event happened. For example,Martin Luther King documentary was made from stories,accounts, drawings etc made when he was alive. The writings or stories in the gospels were made much later after Jesus died

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 6:16pm On Jul 16

ValeeLove:
the people were Alive with him. Matthew and John who wrote the gospels were His disciples and closest friends.

So how come they never wrote anything about Jesus til he died?

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 6:13pm On Jul 16

ValeeLove:
bro, Heaven is outside of time and space. Any Heaven that can be proven by science is a fake.

Yes, our Nation can be better, but even scripture says faith without work is useless. Where is the commensurate effort to back it up.
Also, there's a difference between spirituality and religion. Most of us are just church goers without a personal relationship with God.
Also Nigeria isn't the only religious state, there are developed countries that are religious too like US, China and the UK.
Lastly, development isn't always the absolute measure of a Nation's success, these guys face a lot of natural disasters, crime and depression. Jesus is the true solution to the world's problems.

1. You still haven't provided any evidence about this heaven. You just saud it cant be proven,SO HOW DO YOU KNOW IT ACTUALLY EXISTS SINCE ITS OUTSIDE SPACE AND TIME?
2. Faith without works is dead? So what happens when someone has no faith at all,would that person succeed?
China isnt religious. Get your facts right. UK is getting less religious, in fact churches are being converted to pubs and clubs there. You can fact check. US is religious but gradually atheism is increasing there.
I am talking about countries that have more Christians like Latin America etc. They tend to have poorer economy. The percentage of atheists in Eastern European countries are much higher than Nigeria yet they are better off than us
Yes,development is a measure of success. If I give you UK visa you would run there without thinking about your religious Nigeria. So u want to tell me Netherlands, Slovenia etc have more natural disasters,crime and depression than Nigeria? Lol 😆
These lies wont help you bro

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 6:07pm On Jul 16

ValeeLove:
moved to where? Bodies were buried in Tombs. There were soldiers guarding the tomb. How would simple men like the disciples dare cross the soldiers by committing an atrocity that had the interest of Pontius Pilate. They wouldn't just have killed the disciples, they'd probably kill or punish their household too. Your argument isn't strong here.

When the apostles and women went to visit the tomb did they find it guarded by soldiers? Lol 😆

Health › Re: Doctor Claims A Woman's Body-Count Affects Child's Skin Colour During Birth by jaephoenix(m): 8:34am On Jul 16

Lovelink1991:
A trending video of a doctor laying claim that the reason black parents give birth to albino is as a result of the woman's body count.

People have been saying it is not true but the Doctor's analysis seems to have a concrete evidence on his claim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5FYt2S3nzo?si=atowJzqjcEdtwzJ-

Arrant nonsense. Its not scientifically proven and he's not a doctor. His coat boldly shows Pharmacy. Take it from a real doctor

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Romance › Re: A Virgin With Bad Character Or A Non-virgin With Good Character by jaephoenix(m): 8:30am On Jul 16

Gbadugbakun:
I'll disvirgin the virgin with bad character then marry the non virgin with good character. A win win for me.

Its deflower not disvirgin

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 8:18am On Jul 16

ValeeLove:
its been said by scholars that they were multiple census and two which Quirinius oversaw. One before he was governor and one when he became one.

Please read up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_of_Quirinius

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 8:15am On Jul 16

ValeeLove:
guy, the empty tomb is literally a tourist site in this day's Jerusalem. You can look it up.

An empty tomb can mean that the body was moved,think critically. It doesn't prove anything

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 8:12am On Jul 16

ValeeLove:
primarily you'll make Heaven. Secondarily you get the best quality of life possible here on Earth.

1. You nor every other Christian, have no evidence heaven exists. None whatsoever. Its the same weight of evidence that Valhalla exists,which means nil
2. Nigeria is the most prayerful Christian country in the world but life expectancy is 47 years while many countries that are more atheistic in nature than Nigeria have almost 80 years. Hunger and insecurity ravages the country,so what are you mouthing about

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 8:09am On Jul 16

ValeeLove:
how can you even say they were no eye witnesses? Was he invisible?

It means the events were written in the bible way after Jesus died. They were hearsays
For example,if I split the moon today and it was written in a book after I died by people who weren't alive with me,would you call it eye witness account

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 8:07am On Jul 16

ValeeLove:
the gospels were written around 40 years after Jesus died.

So why do you think its eye witness account when its was written 40 yrs after Jesus?

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 7:25pm On Jul 14

ValeeLove:
yeah. Or at worst I try to.

Whats the importance of living by his will

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 7:24pm On Jul 14

ValeeLove:
the empty tomb? Or what is evidence enough for you since you apparently don't accept historic documentation?

Its only the bible that said his tomb was empty. No other external source corroborated it
You should understand how historical evidence is gotten. Evidence are sourced from different sources not just one,and to make matters worse the identity of those that supposedly saw the empty tomb,have not been verified. From Mary Magdalene etc

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