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Christianity Etc › Re: The Bill Banning Preaching In Commercial Buses Is Targeted At Christianity by jaephoenix(m): 11:32am On Jul 19
Zooposki:
Religion was designed by men and the patriarchy to devalue the matriarchy. The only person that bleeds and dies for you to bring you into life is your mother. Nothing like rib birth. Emancipate yourself.
I agree with you but why are women so protective of these manipulative and misogynistic abrahamic religions,more than men? In our society, women are more religious than men. There are more male atheists than females,in fact on this Nairaland, i have only seen 1 atheist, JessicaRabbit,quite an intelligent woman,but there's loads of male atheists
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran Rains Missiles On 'US Military Bases' In Six Arab Countries by jaephoenix(m): 11:05am On Jul 19
Elusive001:
Read what you wrote again. Does it make sense?

If the iron dome and THAAD interceptors were depleted as you said, would it not have been common sense and logical that Iran capitalises on it to deal with Israel very well now?
I am telling you whats on the news. This is New York Times, a well known news outlet(before you start shouting Fake News like your boss
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/27/world/middleeast/israel-stockpile-missile-interceptors.html

https://www.instagram.com/p/DYnOe-wGvlj/?igsh=MWtiZ2t0ejI4aGJzcA==

Politics › Re: Senate Proposes N50,000 Fine For Preaching, Hawking In Buses by jaephoenix(m): 11:01am On Jul 19
SonofElElyonRet:
So what caused the big bang? Stop shooting yourself in the foot. Something that was already in existence had to have triggered it..
Atheists won't accept it's Someone
Bro,no atheist says they know how the world comes to be. Its you theists that tell us all kinds of stories. We dont know how the big bang came to be. Scientists are still uncertain
The problem with the stories theists provide about creation is that not only have they been proven to be lies,but they are inconsistent.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 10:58am On Jul 19
ValeeLove:
Luke 2:2 says "this was the first census..." It was multiple.
Pardon me,but I dont rate bible history. It has contradictions and misinformations
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 10:56am On Jul 19
ValeeLove:
the fact that I have information on ground today doesn't mean I have to produce a book right away. My point is producing the book later on doesn't mean the information wasn't obtained from first-hand encounter.
So who were the people who witnessed it first hand since it wasn't Matthew, Mark, Luke and John
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 9:43pm On Jul 18
ValeeLove:
the early church fathers believed it was Matthew Mark Luke and John; it's the modern scholars that disagree.
But answer this, why are historical dates measured and written based only on the birth and life of Jesus, a man you claim never existed. You can't even have this conversation without mentioning BC and AD. Is history that gullible?
Good question. I love this.
Dates are measured in Anno Domini (A.D.) because a 6th-century monk Dionysius Exiguus wanted to standardize the calendar by making the birth of Jesus Christ the center of world history, rather than counting years based on the reigns of Roman emperors. Now because the phrase Anno Domini is explicitly religious, many modern historians and scientists use the neutral terms C.E. (Common Era) and B.C.E. (Before Common Era). Both systems share the exact same timeline.
Remember many atheists dont have issues with the historicity of Jesus, what we debate on is HIS DEITY. Meaning his virgin birth,miracles, resurrection are not evidenced
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 9:38pm On Jul 18
ValeeLove:
logic has every thing to do with spirituality, not necessarily science, but logic. If a man rises from the dead, it's logical to believe him if he says he's God.

The gospels have many external sources, you can look it up.

The one who prayed and read will most likely do the best.

The verse says trust in the Lord; that means in a situation or context that you need or have to trust in God for help and understanding, do that and not on yourself.
Logic absolutely has nothing to do with spirituality. It looks like you dont know what logic is. Maybe I'll define it for you
Logic is the formal science of correct reasoning. It involves evaluating arguments to determine whether a conclusion is validly supported by its premises, separating sound, reasonable thinking from flawed or irrational conclusions.
From the above definition, it is based off evidence and facts. Spirituality cannot be proven. Why do I have to define stuff for you christians always?
You haven't even proven that a man rose from the dead,and you're already basing premises off it.
You have been unable to show us the external sources of the gospel for days now, yet you're telling us to do the work for you. Na so u dey do?
Why do you think the one who prayed and read would do better than the one who only read? Remember he used all his time to read,he didn't waste any time to pray.
That's still what I'm saying. Your bible said not to trust in our logic ir understanding
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 9:25pm On Jul 18
ValeeLove:
we don't necessarily know but it has the best evidence or strongest cases.
What evidence proves its the strongest
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran Rains Missiles On 'US Military Bases' In Six Arab Countries by jaephoenix(m): 2:37pm On Jul 18
Elusive001:
So Jordan, Syria, Kuwait, Bahrain, etc attacked Iran first.

Bros, American refuellers take off from israel to deal with Iran.

To who brain is given, sense is expected
Iran is attacking US bases in those GCC countries
And yes,Iran has been throwing missiles at Israel weeks back that depleted their Iron Dome,THAAD etc. They are concentrating on the US now cos that is the country currently attacking them now,Israel isnt engaged with them,Israel is busy with Lebanon
Were you hiding under a rock?
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 9:42pm On Jul 17
ValeeLove:
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The person Jesus told me so I believe. We can't see proof of Heaven, but as humans we are supposed to take the logical option and that option is Jesus.

Faith without work is dead. Work without faith is also dead.

They're Buddhists in China, but it wasn't a good example since they're mostly atheists.
UK & USA built their Nation as a Christian major country. That's my point. Belief in God doesn't stop you from thinking, it does the opposite even and makes you better as a person.
So why should you believe in Jesus since there is no historical evidence that he's a god? Would you believe other gods just because their holy books said to believe in them?
What has logic gotta do with religion? Religion believes in talking animals and bushes,mass resurrections, sun and moon standing still etc,which sre events that have not been proven to happen. So logic is out of the window for you.
So faith without work is dead? OK, so lemme ask a scenario. I have 3 students for an exam. One ONLY prayed and fasted with faith,the other prayed and read,while the third one ONLY read for the exam. Which of them would probably pass the exam?

Belief in god actually stops critical thinking. Remember the bible discourages thinking and even explicitly says for you not to lean on your own understanding
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 7:37pm On Jul 17
ValeeLove:
chill, what I mean is they most likely compiled it through documentation and diaries, eye witnesses accounts, personal experience and asking questions.
Do u even know what eye witness mean, or did the meaning change overnight?
Those purported authors didn't exist and it has been proven to be written years later,thus werent eye witness accounts
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 7:36pm On Jul 17
ValeeLove:
so who did and what evidence do you have to back it up?
The writers of the gospel are anonymous and it was written many years after Jesus's death,and they weren't eye witnesses
Even bible scholars and historians believe its anonymous

Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Defend This As A Christian? I Bet Your Pastor Never Told You This Verse by jaephoenix(m): 7:32pm On Jul 17
Kobojunkie:
1. The first verse is the most famous, which points out that the world(a figurative metonymy) is a reference to the Israelites in the context of John 3 vs 13 - 16. undecided

Again, the notion that the YHWH OF Israel loves mankind is all created from religion. undecided
So how do u know its a figurative metonynm since it wasnt stated there
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Defend This As A Christian? I Bet Your Pastor Never Told You This Verse by jaephoenix(m): 5:40pm On Jul 17
Kobojunkie:
The book never in fact states that the God of Israel was an all-loving God. Not one passage or verse in all of the books of the Israelite Scripture claims His love extends to all of mankind. Rather, the idea that he loves all mankind was invented in religious circles. undecided

Another thing is that the YHWH of Israel's definition of love differs entirely from yours or that of many religions out there. Something else to keep in mind. For instance, if you are under the idea that YHWH of Israel's love would treat your dead body in what humans describe as a humane, then you are entirely wrong. undecided
John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life

Psalm 36:5–7
Your steadfast love, O LORD, extends to the heavens,
your faithfulness to the clouds.
Your righteousness is like the mountains of God;
your judgments are like the great deep;
man and beast you save, O LORD.

Romans 8:35–39
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or unclothedness, or danger, or sword? As it is written,
Politics › Re: Senate Proposes N50,000 Fine For Preaching, Hawking In Buses by jaephoenix(m): 5:37pm On Jul 17
Guestmale:
May the Lord forgives you.Please give your life to Jesus, before it's too late because He can come at anytime lest expected.

John 14:6 KJV
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Christianity Etc › Re: Couple Claim They Are Jesus, Spark Reactions (Photos/Video) by jaephoenix(m): 4:35pm On Jul 17
TommyAnthem:
Lol, wonders shall never end. But what baffles me most is, how can a husband and his wife be insane at the same time. Isn't that strange?
Folie a deux
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 4:03pm On Jul 17
ValeeLove:
to every original there's always a fake. But Church of the Holy Sepulchre has the most authentic and trusted one.
And how do you know its the authentic one
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Defend This As A Christian? I Bet Your Pastor Never Told You This Verse by jaephoenix(m): 4:01pm On Jul 17
brain54:
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God shows mercy and favor on whomever he wants.


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So he's elitist?
He's not all loving then grin
Politics › Re: Senate Proposes N50,000 Fine For Preaching, Hawking In Buses by jaephoenix(m): 3:55pm On Jul 17
Guestmale:
Whether you believe it or not Jesus is Lord and He is coming back again.
Whether you believe it or not the Flying Spaghetti Monster is Lord and He is coming back again.
Politics › Re: Senate Proposes N50,000 Fine For Preaching, Hawking In Buses by jaephoenix(m): 12:15pm On Jul 17
SonofElElyonRet:
Be deceiving yourselves.
Some atheists say "May The Force be with you".. That's God, dude!
Lol 😆
Are you aware where that quote came from? Its from Star Wars. And why do you think this force is your god and not Thor or the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
Christians Crack me up with ignorance 🤣
So because a minority of atheists believe in a force,then that automatically translates to your god? What makes you think its not other gods?
You guys make my day lol 😆
Politics › Re: Senate Proposes N50,000 Fine For Preaching, Hawking In Buses by jaephoenix(m): 12:13pm On Jul 17
SonofElElyonRet:
Atheists believe in an eternal impersonal force that caused the big bang yet they call it nothing.. breaking news dude... It's a personal force and His name is Yahweh... I AM WHO I AM
Which atheist told you that?
Why do you christians pull out all kinds of lies just to discredit atheists? Can you tell me why?
Politics › Re: Senate Proposes N50,000 Fine For Preaching, Hawking In Buses by jaephoenix(m): 12:11pm On Jul 17
Guestmale:
The greatest logical person,is the person that recognize and acknowledge his depravities and come to the Lord Jesus Christ for total deliverance and freedom.
Do you know what logic is? Oh my jingles!
Imagine a theist talking about logic? grin grin grin grin
So its logical to believe the whole world came from 2 people? Its logical to believe in talking animals and bushes,mass resurrections, and all those fairy tales in your bible?
Omo,I just laugh well well this morning
Politics › Re: Senate Proposes N50,000 Fine For Preaching, Hawking In Buses by jaephoenix(m): 7:47am On Jul 17
Guestmale:
I can perceive you're not a Christian,so you can't understand. It's only christians that can understand.
Of course the rvbbish u posted only makes sense to some niche people,not a right thinking logical person
Politics › Re: Senate Proposes N50,000 Fine For Preaching, Hawking In Buses by jaephoenix(m): 7:46am On Jul 17
SonofElElyonRet:
What do we have here? A dogmatic atheist who believes and has faith in something from nothing, order out of chaos and design out of chance/coincidence
Actually its Christians that believes that something came from nothing. You believe your god popped into existence from ......NOTHING! You believe he spoke and ..... boom! The universe popped into existence from ..... NOTHING!You believe he made the earth from .... NOTHING! You believe he made Adam from the dust,and where did the dust come from....NOTHING!
On the other hands,we atheists tell you we dont know how humans or universe came into existence but you had to lie that we say universe came from nothing
Politics › Re: Senate Proposes N50,000 Fine For Preaching, Hawking In Buses by jaephoenix(m): 12:27am On Jul 17
professore:
These men better fear God. God is real. God is very real.
No he's not real. Grow up
Politics › Re: Senate Proposes N50,000 Fine For Preaching, Hawking In Buses by jaephoenix(m): 12:27am On Jul 17
Guestmale:
Whosoever propose this bill such person is digging his or her grave,the same thing goes for anyone of them voted in support of this devilish bill. Already you can't preach or sell inside government bus but extending this to public commercial buses is passing ones boundary. This is not about selling inside bus but codedly against evangelism. These people should not look for Gods anger.
So ur god isnt angry enough at the state of the corntree,hes not angry enough that his people are abducted even in his house he's not angry enough that his priests are graping children but he's angry they are stopping people from spraying other people saliva in the name of preaching? Issorite
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 6:21pm On Jul 16
ValeeLove:
I already told you there were multiple. This one is just stating the one that occured while Quirinius was governor. There was another prior, while Herod was alive which Quirinius still oversaw this time as a chief army official.
There was only ONE documented census. The others were false and no documents favor them. They were added after the Roman's found out that the only census documented would kill the veracity of the bible story
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 6:19pm On Jul 16
ValeeLove:
I don't get, is it a crime for me to retell things that happened 40 years before? Documentaries exist.
Do you think its easy to tell a story when it happened, or many years after it happened?
Documentaries are made from literature that was made when the event happened. For example,Martin Luther King documentary was made from stories,accounts, drawings etc made when he was alive. The writings or stories in the gospels were made much later after Jesus died
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 6:16pm On Jul 16
ValeeLove:
the people were Alive with him. Matthew and John who wrote the gospels were His disciples and closest friends.
So how come they never wrote anything about Jesus til he died?
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 6:13pm On Jul 16
ValeeLove:
bro, Heaven is outside of time and space. Any Heaven that can be proven by science is a fake.

Yes, our Nation can be better, but even scripture says faith without work is useless. Where is the commensurate effort to back it up.
Also, there's a difference between spirituality and religion. Most of us are just church goers without a personal relationship with God.
Also Nigeria isn't the only religious state, there are developed countries that are religious too like US, China and the UK.
Lastly, development isn't always the absolute measure of a Nation's success, these guys face a lot of natural disasters, crime and depression. Jesus is the true solution to the world's problems.
1. You still haven't provided any evidence about this heaven. You just saud it cant be proven,SO HOW DO YOU KNOW IT ACTUALLY EXISTS SINCE ITS OUTSIDE SPACE AND TIME?
2. Faith without works is dead? So what happens when someone has no faith at all,would that person succeed?
China isnt religious. Get your facts right. UK is getting less religious, in fact churches are being converted to pubs and clubs there. You can fact check. US is religious but gradually atheism is increasing there.
I am talking about countries that have more Christians like Latin America etc. They tend to have poorer economy. The percentage of atheists in Eastern European countries are much higher than Nigeria yet they are better off than us
Yes,development is a measure of success. If I give you UK visa you would run there without thinking about your religious Nigeria. So u want to tell me Netherlands, Slovenia etc have more natural disasters,crime and depression than Nigeria? Lol 😆
These lies wont help you bro
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by jaephoenix(m): 6:07pm On Jul 16
ValeeLove:
moved to where? Bodies were buried in Tombs. There were soldiers guarding the tomb. How would simple men like the disciples dare cross the soldiers by committing an atrocity that had the interest of Pontius Pilate. They wouldn't just have killed the disciples, they'd probably kill or punish their household too. Your argument isn't strong here.
When the apostles and women went to visit the tomb did they find it guarded by soldiers? Lol 😆

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