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MaxInDHouse:
YES!

Show me

Dtruthspeaker:
You are now calling it gibberish because you real eyes that you have no reasonable or valid counter to it And further because of your brin is laundered and you have become a bigot

All dictionaries define and tell you that what is called evolution is "a process of change"

Hence we have the evolution of the Benz

https://www.nairaland.com/8149910/incredible-evolution-mercedes-benz-car#130885723

Evolution of the phone
https://www.nairaland.com/2851461/evolution-telephones-nigeria-pictures#41778450

Evolution of cars
https://www.nairaland.com/2884862/evolution-cars-what-look-like#42249030

And even from the scantity of your understanding, you ought to see that it is also evolution when a human being grows up from a baby to adulthood and to wrinkled old age.

But because of the above stated reasons,you cannot allow any of this simple facts we see everyday to correct and emancipate your mind.

So what is your point?

HeatSeeker:
Oh please! Even Seun, the owner of this platform was at a time an avowed atheist. I know the kind of threads where atheists had a field day dismantling perceived inconsistencies in religious doctrines and teachings. You cannot deny that you actively proselytize.

How many of such threads exist compared to Christian threads? Also do you know why Seun had to separate Christians and Muslims? Its cos Christians were constantly on muslim threads harassing and 'dismantling' their perceived inconsistencies. Initially he made it mandatory for anyone posting on muslim boards to be a muslim by making a pledge to be a servant of Allah,but it still didn't discourage these Christians. Many Christians took the pledge and still harassed the Muslims. So he had to separate them now
So this trend of discussing other religions is emulated by Christians too

MaxInDHouse:
You are the one misquoting everyone on this matter nobody not even the inspired Bible writers claim they have an accurate knowledge of God {1Corinthans 13:9} but to say there is no God makes you a complete novice.

You can see someone from a distance and try to guess how he really looks but saying he doesn't exist simply because you've not seen his whole body is where you got it wrong!🥱

So going from your post,what evidence do you have 'that you're seeing someone from a distance'?

Kobojunkie:
You have obviously never paid close attention to the contents of the Bible. 😒😒

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For the context of the debate, I will approach this by examining the Constitutions of the nations that the entire Bible is really all about.
On equal rights:
⚉ In the ancient nation of Israel, equality is implied under the Law of Moses as the law insists that the same standard applies to both the male and female Israelites in the land. All Israelites are considered equal under their Law. No group or gender among the citizenry was raised above the other as far as their Constitution and their God.
⚉ In the Kingdom of God, the Gospel explicitly declares all sisters and brothers of Jesus Christ of Israel equal in the Kingdom of God in Matthew 23: 10 - 15.

2. On slavery:
⚉ In the ancient nation of Israel, there was indentured slavery, which was designed in such a way as to allow Israelites to pay off debts over a period of a maximum of 7 years. Indentured servitude as prescribed by the Law of Moses in the land of Israel DOES NOT violate or impede on the rights of Israelites(citizens of the state in general).

Now, I don't recall reading about the establishment of prisons and stuff the last time I read through the Law of Moses, but I am of the mind that the slave codes were designed for the handling of prisoners. Read through the books of the Law to learn facts from social media talking points.😒

Then there was the other kind of slaves; there were the POWs and others, all of them foreigners in the land of Israel. 😒

These slaves were not subject to the same laws as the citizens and did not enjoy the same benefits. However, as depicted above, they were not to be subjected to harsh treatment or unjust conditions. 😒

More information relating to slavery and treatment of slaves can be found in Exodus 21, Exodus 22 vs 2-4, Exodus 23vs12, Leviticus 19:20, Leviticus 21 vs 4, Leviticus 22 vs 11, Leviticus 25, Deuteronomy 15, Deuteronomy 20 vs 10-14, Deuteronomy 21 vs 10 - 14, Deuteronomy 23 vs15 - 16, Deuteronomy 24:7😒

⚉ In the Kingdom of God, under the Gospel, foreigners are not allowed into the nation, i.e., the Kingdom of God; also, every individual is a worker/slave.

3. On misogyny and racism, I would prefer you be more direct in providing references so I can do my research on exactly what you mean. 😒

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Better yet, can we get back to the topic or subject? 😒

1. No the bible doesn't create equality in the semester

27 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If anyone makes a special vow to dedicate a person to the Lord by giving the equivalent value, 3 set the value of a male between the ages of twenty and sixty at fifty shekels[a] of silver, according to the sanctuary shekel[b]; 4 for a female, set her value at thirty shekels[c]; 5 for a person between the ages of five and twenty, set the value of a male at twenty shekels[d] and of a female at ten shekels[e]; 6 for a person between one month and five years, set the value of a male at five shekels[f] of silver and that of a female at three shekels[g] of silver; 7 for a person sixty years old or more, set the value of a male at fifteen shekels[h] and of a female at ten shekels. 8 If anyone making the vow is too poor to pay the specified amount, the person being dedicated is to be presented to the priest, who will set the value according to what the one making the vow can afford.

From the above, males are valued more than females

Also females menstruating are termed unholy and unclean,and anyone touching them are also unholy and needs to be purified

Also females arent allowed to preach


About slavery,Yhwh explicitly instructs Israelites to take slaves from surrounding nations. In case you don't know how it works,they go to war,grab anyone against their wishes and make them work WITHOUT PAYMENT. Also they can bear them as much as they want as long as they dont die within 2 days. So if they die after 2 days of beating,then its fine. Also these slaves are owned for life,and passed from generations to generations.


So stop all these lies

Hermoniy:
Did I argued with you? Or did I disagree on what you said?



Yes, they are not equal, because it's a man's world. They do what they like and get away with it. Even the government rules and regulations will be in their favor.

Because that is what women want
You guys want a man to buy you stuff and own you then cry when the same man wants to dictate terms
He who pays the piper dictates the tune

[quote author=nairalanda1 post=140589279]Yes, it is something I hear that happens.

I'm not an expert , and this is not meant to be definitive theology, and yes God does heal people....however, a lot of christians are hooked on miracles, less on becoming what God wants them to be.

Becoming what God wants you to be is hard. Because it means accepting a lot of awfulness that you won't like. A lot of christians love to quote the bit about how Paul went to third heaven, but won't quote the bit about the thorn in the flesh.

Perhaps, if we realize that we should rely more on God, and less on a miracle that would make us self reliant again, and reduce our shame or something, we may become better christians

But a lot of people rely on miracle watching...meanwhile there is no evidence of christian miracle workers moving into and emptying hospital wards, and cemeteries. Because, at the end of the day, it's all about the spectacular...entertainment. God did not come to us to entertain us and to give us goodies...regrow?
Name one person that was healed? I mean just one

judewrites:
Miracles are real because God is real.

If you don't believe in miracles then you simply don't believe in God.

However, people do fake miracles by pretending and by evil spirits.

Name one genuine miracle
Wondered why no amputees have been healed despite regular miracle claims? Is it that there are no amputees in Nigeria, or anywhere in the world? Even wondered why no Christian amputees limbs are regrown?
Have you wondered why known christian celebrity diableds like Ndifreke Essien,Yinka Ayefele,Cobham Asuquo etc havent gotten healed despite being strong Christians? Also wonder why we lost folks like Alexx Ekubo,Mr Ibu etc despite being prayed for publicly in renowned and 'powerful' pastors? Then random unknown folks you've never seen before and cannot verify their disabilities or illness suddenly get healed?
Think!

Prestar:
“I Made ₦10 Million from Selling Bread and Akara” — Akwa Ibom Governor Claims

Akwa Ibom Governor Umo Eno Claims He Made N10 Million Monthly Selling Akara and Bread pic.twitter.com/0BXviM0b4t

— Star Potter (@Starpotternews) September 2, 2026

I thought this guy is or was a Reverend or Pastor?

Samantha125:
Imagine a magistrate waking up early in the morning to preside over a transport fare case...🤦🤦🤦

See them oh
Na dem be dis

Glimpsetv:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqXkbQnMA4M?si=EZto9PBImOwf9KE4

Maybe he is a Christian and was told by God to do like Daniel

Stephen0mozzy:
Gbam. That's why I believe death bed repentance is just bobo.

So if you think you can be unholy all through your life, and then do Pascal's Wager, then you nor really understand nothing 😅

Pascal's Wager is a poor argument for christianity

ebubeson:
Some hook-up ladies may be helpless sex addicts that may be pretending to sleep around for money. They may still sleep around if they have no clients; but demanding for cash may just be a way to get profit from sexual addiction.

When a hook-up lady tells you that she will stop if you provide her constant cash: do you know if she is a sex addict? Do you know even hook-up might make a lady a sex addict?

Again, if you are an innocent lady dating a guy that sleeps with prostitutes in a brothel, you might become a nymphomaniac if you sleep with the guy you are dating. The guy may have sexual addiction spirits that may be from the brothel prostitutes who may be nymphomaniacs, and he may transfer it to you that was initially innocent.

Never read so much BS crammed in a small post
High libido transmitted by sex?
Education has failed Nigerians

Minjim:
Does Iran have the resoures to keep this war going ? The US is the economic world power of the world.

Iran just started dipping into their arsenal, bro

sultanodudua:
It’s clear trump had been too lenient on these Iranians but they took his calmness for weakness or even stupidity. Now trump is no longer smiling at them.
I feel pity for the innocent people amongst them.

Trump is lenient yet he is the one begging for ceasefire?
Una dey funny

MaxInDHouse:
You are the one misquoting everyone on this matter nobody not even the inspired Bible writers claim they have an accurate knowledge of God {1Corinthans 13:9} but to say there is no God makes you a complete novice.

You can see someone from a distance and try to guess how he really looks but saying he doesn't exist simply because you've not seen his whole body is where you got it wrong!🥱

Again,do have any evidence of this your god?

Hermoniy:
Did I argued with you? Or did I disagree on what you said?



Yes, they are not equal, because it's a man's world. They do what they like and get away with it. Even the government rules and regulations will be in their favor.

Rules favor women. Check divorce laws in western countries. A man would lose his house and half his money after divorce

donleo92:
Ooooh boy!!!!

That mandani, na real terrorist sympathizer

Imagine person, way talk say him won hold meeting with i-ranian delegate

Your country, they at war, with a nation, you come dey romance with the people way your country they fight against.

And na common local government chairman ooooh....

To win senator, go really hard for ram

So what if he wants to hold talks with Iran? Are the Department of State personnels and DoS that hold talks with Iran not Americans, or what? Are they romancing with Iran cos they wanna hold talks?What is exactly your point? Looks like you dont know how diplomatic relationships work. Someone can be fighting with you but still holding talks. Trump just announced fresh talks with Iran despite an ongoing war

Oblongata:
When do you intend on travelling?

At September you can get a RoyalAirMaroc cheap. Just go to their website and check their prices there.

You can also try RwandAir or Ethiopian Airlines. These are relatively cheap as well. Go to their websites, you really don’t need travel agents at this age.

You can get a bus directly to Liverpool from Heathrow or Gatwick. The bus is ‘National Express’. You can go to their website and make your reservation. You should expect to pay from £30-50.

Have a pleasant journey in advance 👍

Rwandair is awesome. I used it from Lagos to London via Kigali. Good service too. Only problem was the food. I didn't understand it
You can get London to Liverpool with National Express,or something like that

didymario7:
He is not even the Governor of the state of New York. He is comparable to a local govt chairman. Lol

City of New York is not equivalent to a local government, its a city(as it name implies),the biggest in the US ,and composed of boroughs like Manhattan, Brooklyn etc which is equivalent of a local government
A little research would help you guys. Misinformation is rife in this platform

Sonnobax15:

Good one from you Bibi

Imagine the bend-down piss mayor of New York forming woke ,whereas it was the same west that gave him the kind of lifestyle he wouldn't have been privileged to live if he were to be in one of those Arab nations

Ignorance!
Bibi has an arrest warrant issued by ICC on his head for war crimes. Guess where the ICC is from? Yes,from the West!
US being a rogue country,pulled out from the ICC
So next time you wanna make a statement, please do your research

Hermoniy:
But men still lead on the billboard charts.




Abi inside BH or bandist troops how many women day among them?.
Abi for Sudan,wer women and children are getting raped/killed,who dy do am?

I didn't say females are as violent as men
The point of this topic is equality. The AI doesn't view men and women as equal which negates equality rules
Do you believe in equality

Dtruthspeaker:
Funny, the first problem is what is the meaning of believe/what is the meaning of believe to a person personally for unreasonable bias is also a type of believe and part of the natural meaning of believe.

And this is where division starts for not everyone is reasonable even though everyone are capable of being reasonable but it is at their full and infetterable discretion to be reasonable or unreasonable.

But i love and choose being reasonable and since I understand what believe means,, i therefore say that i believe in evolution because evolution means "change" and it is confirmed by nature that change is part of life.

However, i contest the meaning of evolution which atheist give to it in which they imply that the change aka applies to the same subject matter. Meanwhile, nature's evolution is not on the same subject exactly as Mitchell Obama is not the same as Malia or Sasha Obama as this thread below proves

https://www.nairaland.com/8149910/incredible-evolution-mercedes-benz-car#130885723

Though people commonly say that this is the evolution of the s-class but they are all different s-classes and not the same unit of s-ckass which atheist implyingly and wrongfully state that, that is what evolution is.

Most of the gibberish here,i dont understand. Please there is only one definition of evolution, and evolution wasnt propagated by atheists but by science. Get your facts right

HeatSeeker:
You

Or haven't you been proselytizing for years on nairaland?! Each time you defend, explain, or push forward based on what you believe...

Your arguments affect susceptible minds, emboldens those with similar thinking, and causes those with doubts to question what they claim to believe in.

Whether you accept it or not, you have promoted the cause of atheism on nairaland.

How many atheist topics do you see on religion board? Compare that to Christian posts. How many atheist topics even get to front page?

Dtruthspeaker:
And the question then always moves to what is the proof of God.

No where did i mention that God is created of which this is a new issue open for contest hence new argument and a departure from post, plus God undisputably stands as a creator while undisputably, the universe is a creation, so you are again wrong to compare the 2 exactly as no reasonable person has ever compared the Camry to Mr Toyoda.

What a person?

MaxInDHouse:
They don't have an accurate knowledge of God just as if Nairalanders are asked to talk about you each will say different things that doesn't mean you don't exist nah!🥱

Oh,when they say there is an invisible being,you believe that they have accurate knowledge of god but when they talk about evolution (or other topics that counter your religion,u turn around and say they dont have accurate knowledge of god?
Who do you think you're deceiving?

MaxInDHouse:
Whatever they call God or say about God is not the issue what matters is they acknowledge there is an invisible supreme being!

And that invisible being happens to be your own favorite god and not Thor?
You haven't answered my question on evolution. Do you believe in it?

Kobojunkie:
Huh? 😒😒

Much of what you know as Western nations is fundamentally shaped by a combination of Christian morality, Greco-Roman philosophy, Roman law, and architecture. In the US, for example, what you refer to as inalienable rights are derived from ideas linked to a God, and that God happens to be the one linked to the Christian Religion. So, when people scream, "Rights this and rights that," in the United States, they refer to rights that are backed by rights that come from the religion of Christianity, and not out of thin air!🤔🤔

The Bible itself doesnt even agree on equal rights. Are you aware the Bible condones slavery,misogyny,racism? Don't just start me on that

Hermoniy:
Jeffrey Epstein is/was a man,
Rkelly Is /was a man,
Lee jun wook is / was a man.
U need more?.
Men always covered most rape cases.

c'mon.

Even A.I self know the brain and mind of a man.
So if a.i no trust men, that means it's game over.

And those saying that women get it easier.No they don't.
Take a look at the movie 'Squid Game', most of the male characters have committed Se.x assault/ still assaulting,but they got/getting away with it,are been celebrated . But make woman just mistakenly pour water for ground,she will surely regret why coming to this life.

And I will never visit the dark web again.

These are top female sex offenders
Mary Kay Letourneau: A teacher in Washington State convicted in the late 1990s for having a sexual relationship with her underage student, Vili Fualaau.Rose West: A British serial killer who, alongside her husband Fred West, was convicted of horrific sexual assault and murder charges involving young women and girls in the 1970s.Myra Hindley: A British criminal who partnered with Ian Brady to commit the "Moors Murders," involving the sexual abuse and murder of children near Manchester, England, during the 1960s.

Some killed gruesomely

Samantha125:
On what basis? And please give a logical explanation.

So u would be comfortable to see your son groped by a woman? Yes or no