₦airaland Forum

ogascomax:
You are the joker not Christianity.

Christians are the butt of jokes anywhere in the world. So buzz off

Mtmike:
Wanna be medical practitioner, would have love to respond to you but from your second line i also know your sense of reasoning is too close to the ground. God help you

U have no response cos u got none. Quit hating. If u r jealous,hug a transformer

Diamond098454:
Everytime billing what do you mean by this billing billing billing? Haven't you seen guys that doesn't wait for there girl to ask them for something before they do it?

Sorry,we dont associate with homeless girls

nairalanda1:
The press release says there was ASV and it was given.

TO quote directly from it

We want to clarify that the management team at Federal Medical Centre, Abuja acted promptly and with the utmost care upon Ms. Nwagene's arrival. Our medical staff provided immediate and appropriate treatment, including resuscitation efforts, intravenous fluids, intranasal oxygen, and the administration of polyvalent snake antivenom.

Is it not Nigerians? They will look for something to blame the hospital or doctors. Someone was blaming doctors in one thread, for unavailability of drugs and bed space. As in eh,we don see something for these people hand

EXPRESSSMAN:
All these medical jargons is to save their face. Government owned hospitals in Nigeria don't care. This is for those who don't use these hospitals. If you go to Luth in Lagos and see how accidents victims are packed on bare floors, then, you will understand that there is no hope for emergency situations in Nigeria.
Meanwhile, the author of this information should have reserved his medical terminology for his fellow doctors and write what the agitated public should understand. This is how to communicate.

So whose fault is it that there's no bed space for patients? Is it that u people wake up and decide to hate doctors

Freshandfitpod:
Are you Muslim? You sound offended.

Your blood of Jesus is useless

Mtmike:
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THIS SAME HOSPITAL IS CALLED OUT FOR NEGLIGENCE AND GROSS MISCONDUCT.
THE ATTITUDE OF THEIR PERSONNELS IS WORSE THAN WORSE THING YOU CAN EVER IMAGINE
AND TO CROWN IT UP THEY RESORTED INTO COOKING UP THESE LIES
COMMON, SNAKE BITE TREATMENT TURNED SERIOUS CASE IN 2026, THIS IS CLEARLY NOT THE ISSUE OF GOVERMENT, IT IS MORE OF THE STAFFS WORKING THERE
THEY NEED TO BE AUDITED
THEY ARE MURDERERS!!!!!

Your hate for medical personnel is affecting your reasoning.
Even if there is no ASV is it the doctors' fault or government's? Did the tell you they didn't attend to her?
Are you usually this ddenseez

Kingsley34:
Christianity is looking like a joke

Was there a time it wasn't a joke

ruggedtimi:
100% real… let me share a chilling story from last year.

A wealthy friend’s younger brother, heir to their late father’s empire, planned a week in a luxury Lekki apartment with his girlfriend. She delayed her trip from Port Harcourt, so he arranged a costly backup plan with a one of his lagos based girl and he had to pay ₦1.6m. Unexpectedly, his girlfriend arrived later in the week, sparking a violent quarrel..the girlfriend left and plotted with some boys to blackmail him for ₦30m. When that failed, she accused him of internet fraud and reported him to the EFC.

For nearly a month, EFC audited his accounts, investigated his father’s business, and searched their family home. Nothing incriminating surfaced. He swore never to return to her but weeks later, he flew her to Doha, Qatar. Once he entrusted his sister with keys to five family cars that she should never released the key to him, it happened his girlfriend wanted him to send their GLE to Abuja for her but somehow he realized himself the morning he was suppose to send the GLE with an arranged driver.
He opened a logistics company in her name with ten bikes.

His mother had a dream of death to one of her kids...The guy had several accidents and one was with the girl on their way back from Ph airport...Worried mother visited a powerful priest at Imo. It was discovered that his girlfriend had used powerful juju on him draining his life. He wasn’t meant to see January 2026. When confronted, she confessed her mother had been taking her to native doctors.
The girls mother sent juju to the guy's mother. The woman couldnt walk for days, she went back to the priest in imo and the priest did a back to sender. It landed on the girl
The very next day, she called her boyfriend in tears, claiming that whatever his mother did was hurting her.
Out of anger, she threatened to wipe out his entire family including my friend. Alarmed, they took the matter to the authorities.
With solid evidence from WhatsApp chats and voice notes, their lawyer compelled both the girlfriend and her mother to sign a binding undertaking: if anything happened to any member of the family resulting in untimely death, the responsibility would fall squarely on them.

What's the name of this movie

Freshandfitpod:
kai! That is a medical error from them

No its not. Research before talking

Dogalmighty17:
Providing CPR on a snake bite victim? This only further pushes the venom deeper into the body.
The first question any competent medical professional will ask is, what kind of snake bit her? This will quickly narrow down and pinpoint the most effective anti-venom for that particular kind of snake.

The shameful disgrace of Nigeria is that the whole federal capital territory doesn't have a centre equipped with anti-venom that any hospital across Abuja can call and have it available in minutes.

Abuja is expanding. It is inevitable that this expansion will reach areas that certain wildlife have long regarded as home. These displaced animals, snakes inclusive, start entering residential areas. The case of the Airforce personnel who got bitten by a snake that crawled through her soak-away into her toilet, is fresh in memory. Her house was built in a freshly claimed area.

Yet just a 45 minute drive from Abuja, along the Abuja-Keffi expressway, is a snake farm owned by a retired Chief of Army staff. The most evil CAS this country has ever had. Snake venom is steadily harvested from that farm and shipped abroad.

If you dont know about any topic,why don't you research before responding, or simply shut it. That is my problem with many nairalanders
Snake venom can cause cardiac arrest and thus CPR is required. Whether ASV was available or not,is up in the air

EyeCumInPeace:
Abeg, na God abi na Satan create all the deadly Bacteria, Virus and Fungi that cause all these diseases. 😁

God

Pojomojo:
I hear you, bro. And honestly, your frustration is very old-school football fan logic — squad management, timing, balance — that stuff matters. You’re not wrong to value it.

Arteta actually does have good assistants (Albert Stuivenberg, Carlos Cuesta), but the difference between him and Pep isn’t just “older assistant vs younger.” It’s authority and legacy. Pep can afford to be checked. He’s won everything. When that older assistant tells him to calm down, it lands because Pep already knows he’s Pep. Arteta is still proving himself, so he’s more controlling — that’s common with managers building their identity.

About the set-piece thing: yeah, Arsenal leaned hard into it — sometimes too hard — but that’s also a symptom of where the squad is. When you’re not as technically dominant as City, you squeeze margins. Set pieces aren’t the plan, they’re the multiplier. The problem isn’t that Arsenal use them — it’s when they stop evolving beyond them in big moments.

Now the rotation point? That’s where your Chelsea trauma is talking 😭 — and it’s valid.

Arteta absolutely overplayed his core guys.

- Saka cooked.
- Ødegaard run into the ground.
- Saliba injury → whole season wobble.

That’s a young-manager mistake. Wanting it all at once instead of sequencing success like you said. Chelsea fans know this pain because you’ve lived both sides: the Mourinho “focus on the league” years and the chaos years.

But here’s the counter-counter (fair is fair):

Arsenal fans waited 20 years to be back in a title race. Once you taste it, patience disappears. Arteta wasn’t just managing a squad — he was managing a fanbase starving for relevance. That pressure makes managers greedy.

Pep can rotate because:

- He has two world-class players per position
- He trusts the second guy
- The club culture backs long-term dominance

Arteta’s Arsenal are still building that depth and trust.

So I’d sum it up like this:

You’re right about squad management and pacing

You’re right that football isn’t just corners and spreadsheets

But Arteta isn’t clueless — he’s early-stage Pep, without Pep’s safety net


If Arsenal don’t learn to prioritize soon, though? Then your criticism stops being opinion and starts being prophecy.

And yeah… that United goal-difference title still hurts. Real ones remember 😤

I second this post but the only mistake is where u said Pep has 2 world class player in each position. That's a lie. His squad sorely lacks quality

triplechoice:
You're deflecting. The main debate was never about whether isolated cases of medical misconduct exist. The debate was "Does suppressing religion cause a country's development?

You have failed to prove that. Instead, you've shifted to sharing anecdotal stories, which, even if true, are individual ethical failures, not evidence of your original thesis. Worse, you have taken these stories out of their context. A family friend doctor, in a hopeless case suggesting spiritual comfort is not the same as systemic malpractice. If the doctor were a stranger, or if the family were Muslim or atheist, such suggestion would be highly unlikely. Context matters, and you consistently ignore it. Do you expect the family to report their own friend for a suggestion they, as fellow believers, likely agreed with?

You, however, have no such excuse. As an atheist who claims to have repeatedly witnessed this malpractice, your failure to report it, using the flimsy excuse of the MDCN'S religious composition, makes you complicit. In the very countries you praise, your licence would be at risk for such consistent inaction. You are part of the problem you describe.

You also continue to contradict yourself. You claim this is "common", but if it were truly a common practice, formal reports and institutional data would exist, not just your unverified stories. Nobody is calling you a liar . Your stories could be true or false. But if you want to be believed, you must provide verifiable evidence, not hide behind the weak defense of , "you don't know this cos you ain't a doc".

Please return to the main debate or concede. Show the causal link between not suppressing religion and national underdevelopment. Everything else is a distraction .

These are not isolated cases. These are common occurrences. The way you argue confidently with a doctor concerning medical practice is amusing. The doctor is telling you something is common practice nd you're insisting it's not and telling me it's an anecdotal. I have told you several times that i have not done a poll on doctors to know their tendencies to attribute anything to spiritual,so whatever I'm saying is an estimate based off my practice experience. I hope this sticks to your brain and you won't say I'm contradicting myself

LordReed:
Abi o. I was thinking about it, how come none of these big preachers has ever said they'll go into any of these troubled places to preach? They never seem to want to be martyred. LoLz.

Them dey hear news. One or two people have died from these extremists. I remember one woman that was mobbed while preaching in one northern state. Even the story of Deborah is still fresh. Dem no dey near that North. Leave Jesusjnr2020 and him friend make dem dey cap here

triplechoice:
No . you never said so.
The statement you quoted was a broad conclusion to the core debate, summarising the flawed argument put forth by jaephoenix that not "suppressing religion" alone is the cause of Nigeria's "demise. It was not a specific accusation directed at you .

In fact, I clearly noted our agreement on the real solution : investing in education and institutions. My concluding observation was about the wide pattern of the debate, not about your personally.

I apologise if the phrasing was unclear, but the intent was to close the loop on the main argument so it doesn't drift any further, and not to target you. Our common ground on education remains the most important point. Let's focus on that.

https://www.nairaland.com/8604257/how-brothers-fetish-girlfriend-almost
Triplechoice look at this article. This is exactly what I'm talking about. A physician cannot handle a case. What does he do? Instead of referring, he tells the folks to go spiritual,and of course,they will end up in a church and say the doctors have tried their best. As a doctor,you cant know every disease,or its management. Thats why we have a referral system in place. You have primary,seondary, tertiary and even quartenary levels of care.Refer to specialists to do their thing. This mindset is common amongst doctors in Africa,not just Nigeria. You cant try this in advanced countries,your license would just evaporate instantly. I keep on telling me but you have decided to stuff cotton wool in your ears
Learn!

DeclanR:
https://www.nairaland.com/8603607/beans-smelling-like-theres-kerosene

Further to the above link, I decided against eating same beans yesterday.

I was in a rush trying to make that post yesterday, as a result, some details were left out.
— I bought two Mudus of Milk Beans. I had earlier bought two Mudus of Honey beans, but when I got home to cook the honey beans, I noticed it had no taste at all. The Beans is so Neat and clean, but no taste.
— As a result of its lack of taste, I decided to buy the milk beans. Believe me I hadn't heard of these names(Honey and milk beans) until Monday last week.
— While I was picking and winnowing the Milk Beans yesterday, there was no smell. But as soon as I began to cook it, the smell began to erupt. I washed it with cold water four times before parboiling. After Parboiling, i still washed it like five times, still the smell didn't go away..
— I ran to a male neighbour of mine and ask him if he had had such experience with beans, he said no. He advised I threw them away.
I ran to an old woman within the neighbourhood, she said I could eat it. She even tested it. But I said I won't eat.
I threw the parboiled ones away.
I returned the remaining ones to the woman who sold to me. She didn't give me back my money and I didn't want to start dragging with her. Though she promised to do so later.

Please do not care less about your Health. Prevention is better than Cure.

A lot of food items have been adulterated in today's market. Everybody wants to make quick quick money at the expense of the other. Eating banana and plantain now is also risky, even Fufu(Akpu), Palm oil.

The situation is really bad.

What causes the kerosene smell? Is it actually kerosene or some other hydrocarbon? And why do they use it?

budaatum:
Lewisham. My birth borough.

You?

I worked in Ancoats then Salford,all in Manchester. Wasn't born there tho

LordReed:
LoLz. My guy is busy enjoying himself in Abuja and is dreaming of being beheaded. Christian and contradiction are 5 and 6.

Imagine. Tomorrow he'll come and be disturbing us and be saying 'to be martyred is his dream' when Borno or Sokoto isn't far from Abuja. Just 6 hours journey and you're there. Let him spread the good news there

ogascomax:
You may end up saying it's a conspiracy theories. However, it was manufactured in South Africa. I have watched the documentaries of the players involved.
Do your research about the HIV thing.
Have you read the book economy hitman?

Unfortunately I'm a scientist (physician) and don't depend on conspiracy theories

Truthseeker10:
Why are you retracting your answer? Do you lack evidence to prove that no one can interface with a spiritual spider and that a spiritual spider doesn't make sense to anyone?

Oga answer the question. I have retracted my answer since its disturbing you. I'm waiting...

AbahJFK:
He was talking to the whole of Europe not Switzerland only

And which country was he standing on?

EponObi:
Wo! Trump matter done tire me.

Him just dey say nonsense at Davos today. Utter rubbish, with no head or tail.

Mtchew 🤣🤣🤣

He said he won't use force on Greenland but will negotiate with EU. "It's left for them to accept or refuse but WE WILL REMEMBER" 😂😂😂

He even said he was told if Abraham Lincoln came back to contest for president, he will defeat him. 🤣🤣🤣

Madman

Even this talk is rubbish. Switzerland speaks German currently. The guy na proper olodo

DeZoro:
This is how a president talk

He's talking rubbish like u always do. Switzerland actually speaks German currently

Rich4god:
Imagine almighty Liverpool thread is on FP and still on page one. Goes to show how the club have fallen.

And 'almighty' Chelsea barely made 2 pages. What does it show

Orlandoo:
Nigerians irrespective of tribe or religion are solidly behind whatever Trump is doing.

Speak for yourself. If u love a pdfilic and megalomaniac felon,then keep it to yourself, not us

jesusjnr2020:
Wow!

Thanks for sharing this.

It's as if you already knew my dream as well was to suffer persecutions and death (perhaps by beheading) for His Gospel and Name sake and to transit to glory via that means.

I can't imagine what it would be like transiting from the worst possible experience to the best

It would be my greatest honor to share in the privilege the apostles also enjoyed for it wasn't exclusive to them.

God bless.

Afghanistan and Pakistan are highly islamic countries which frown on Christian evangelism. You can do us,you and everyone on this great forum a great favor by going there. It's a win win situation for all,bro

Truthseeker10:
You claimed the answer was no. So where is your evidence sir that no one can interface with a spiritual spider and that a spiritual spider doesn't make sense to anyone?

Okay. Let me retract my answer. So what is the answer to that question of yours?

budaatum:
I hope you are aware the entire conversation is still there for anyone to read from the beginning, which I did.

I never said "Christianity is the cause of underdevelopment" in Nigeria, because that is just a stupid thing to say, considering Christianity is not the only religion in Nigeria, and the fact that Britain and the West, that some would say is developed was very Christian in its past. What UK has that Nigeria has little of is the promotion of critical thought, which is a subject taught from primary school here, and could be said to have replaced religious belief. Religious belief has in fact been eliminated from the public sphere, and is a very private thing here. Critical thought, as opposed to belief, is what brought on the age of enlightenment, and which is what we would like introduced (more) in Nigeria.

The Bible and the Quran both have it written in it that one should work for ones food too, but it is not unusual for many to beg for their daily bread, which just shows that being religious doesn't mean they follow what their holy book says. If people did, atheist me would be promoting the religions because the books are precious to me.

I do not want to suppress anyone's religion however, and it is not suppressed here, though it historically has been. Catholicism was prohibited in UK I'd have you know, with cathedrals literally stripped and torn down. And the Catholic Bible was banned from England, hence the King James Version. The religion that was promoted to replace it, though still Christianity, was cleansed of a lot of beliefs that were not welcomed here. The Church of England does not even require belief, which is why you'd find atheist me in a church. The fruit of ones actions are valued more, and is why predominant Christian London, if any religion can claim predominance in London, elected a Muslim as mayor three times.

If Nigeria wants to progress, it must abandon a lot of the beliefs it holds dear (some of which is a lack of understanding of the religious books and the plastering of what is thought to be Islam and Christianity over our pre-christian/islam ideology). We must read the books with an inquisitive mind instead of just believing what we think we understand is written in those books

As far as health goes, it might help if we build more hospitals instead of religious temples. And we can go futher by teaching healthy lifestyles from primary school instead of leaving our health to the gods.

I have ignored your allegations and accusations because they are just your own biases, note. I am not here to score points, because it is foolish to ignore our common ground, which you intelligently expressed and which I have included below.



This is how UK suppressed (if one may use that word) religion, though it did include steps like abolishing preaching in schools too.

Astute
Which city in the UK are you in?