₦airaland Forum

ibuildstuff:
The original manuscript are available in different museum around the world.
The deadsea scroll seems to be the oldest when it comes to the old testament, but the deadsea scroll contain more that a 100 books.
So why did the church filter so many books n choose only a few as the Bible.


Some part and stories in the Bible were added by later Christians e.g story of the adulterous woman wasn't in any of the old manuscript of the Bible.
So were did that story came from.

From my observation, the stories in the Bible are not authentic and most were plagiarized from ancient Egypt methodology.


Ever wondered why most of these scrolls were written in Greek instead of Hebrew.

The Christian religion was obviously form by Greeks, that's why the likes of Constantine and the Greek council of necea seems to be the founding fathers of Christianity.

There were Christians in Ethiopia and Semitic countries before Constantine or the Greeks. Why then didn’t those one’s scriptures change in disparity with the account of today’s Bible? See there were so many witnesses when Christ was here. Unlike in Islam where someone woke up someday & started saying he got a vision from God via the angel whom revealed the Quran to him without any shred of evidence. If what we have learned today didn’t happen, there would have been stiff counter claims from oral & written history. The only thing with Bible is the translation metamorphosis and this is quite understandable as even the Brits don’t speak or write like they used to in Shakespearean time of yester years not to talk of thousand of years ago. This does not invalidate the genuineness of the Bible. If you took Synoptic Gospels course in the university, I believe you’d have a better understanding as all variables have been academically resolved.

EKONGKING:
But bible said earth is created between 6000 to 10000 years ,how come a 10,500 age basket is found.


my dear christains its fake news ,

Do you know humans once lived as high as 600years? Do you know that a thousand years to us is like a year in heavenly realm. The Bible already answered these things without ambiguity.

alasane:
Then prepare to recall all your siblings from ABU Zaria....so we can continue on & on and see who blink first...Remember this how you people were shouting NORTH as parasite,but just one week of food blockade every nook and cranny were feeling the heat.

Idiot who felt what heat? You must be deluded. You clowns took produce to Niger and Chad but couldn’t make sale, perishables spoiled for nothing you then set up a stupid reconciliation meeting by yourself for yourself. Southerners felt no such heat. You are a chronic liar.

Yoighaman:
I wasted millions of naira on football bets...I didn't realize on time. I was chopping, they were chopping but eventually I was the loser. I still play, but not like before, now I just use it to catch cruise, before, I took it like a business.

Eeya omo the stories were saddening. CPGA suffered, NYSC always having financial issues couldn’t even account for anything, jobs distractions taking toll on performance, lost a good woman too, wasted thousands for nothing. Mehn it was a stupid, helpless place to be. But in all things, there’s still a window for thanks. I am in a place of comfort today because of the wreck I needed to become first. I can never touch it ever again. I killed it with a healthier addiction.

Yoighaman:
Gambling is a bad habit, worse than Meth or Cocaine. Please avoid it like a plague but if you find it difficult to stop, then just play with the amount of money you can afford to lose, see it as fun, not a business.

You are damn right. Gambling took about 7 years of quality life from me. It's the worst.

Mikecold:
Thunder fire you


Are they the owners of all cows in Nigeria or they represent a mere association of poor herdsmen



The president of Nigeria steel association, Nigeria rubber association, Nigeria oil palm association don't even have this government luxury despite exporting cash crops


Where were you when buhari proposed to fund this private business with oil money and lands on ruga

It is the same oil money that is funding these Terrorists

Leave the idiot. He thinks diary companies depend on all these diseased cows trekking the whole of Nigeria for milk to process when all these organized farms like Ota own to meet supply. Where was Miyetti Allah 10 years ago?

Believe those confusionists Taqiya at your own peril.

*You said girls must be allowed to use hijab in “grant-aided” mission schools. Keywords “grant-aided” regardless of the school’s religious heritage. You hinged your arguments on fairness, equity & justice. Now where were these same qualities when you set up Kwara State College of Arabic and Islamic Legal Studies exclusively for yourself using money from Christian tax payers as well? Where was your sense of inclusiveness when you used same to establish a State Sharia Court of Appeal? Where was your fairness whenever you build mosques in public offices and schools without equivalent worship spaces for Christian employees in the state? Systematic domination of one above the other using the instrumentality of state has thrived in Kwara for too long. Stop playing the hypocritical victim cards when you are actually the oppressor.

WowSweetGuy:
It's not deadly joor. Little kids catch these same scorpion alot at our site in lokoja...they give it to our chinese Engineer who usually put it in his cup mixed with spirit gin inside and drink daily

Crazy chinks.

BaeMercy:
They want to turn schools to mosque
That why I support their imams, these people don't deserve school they should just be going to their mosque to learn Quran
Western education is not for them

Very trashy war-mongering dolts. If the colonialists wanted, they would have easily converted all of them from Islam but they chose not too and respected their space yet these idiots wouldn’t respect other people’s space.

adadike:
The governor of kwara state is an idiot. He is not in good terms with Sulu Gambari the emir , he is not in good terms with Bukola, he is not in good terns with Christians. He thought he is punishing the christians but he forgot that the Muslims in that school will also stay at home. That's why I like my school Anglican grammar school ilorin, they don't accept Muslim students and it remain a mission school till date. Christian schools should henceforth stop accepting nuslims. Nothing good can ever come out of islam. let the muslims go to their boring asarudeen schools simple. Muslims go to Muslim school and Christian's go to Christian School.

Wow never knew that’s the modus operandi of Anglican Grammar School. Where are they situated at now. Think it used to be along Bishop Smith side.

toyinjimoh:
have you ever seen marry mother of God and holy sister open their head? or are they Muslim

Have you ever seen Mary the Mother of Jesus before with your eyes? Do Rev Sisters do so in the schools or in their church? Is a school the same as a church? Also, the Bible admonished women to cover up. Are teenagers and pupils in the schools women? What age does womanhood begins? Use your head.

tamdun:
Gbam, that's how CAN pushed El rufai in Kaduna and he jejely chose a muslim as his running mate and he won, CAN should continue pushing their luck in kwara state, all my days in kwara I've never seen Muslims oppress xtians, Ondo state govn demolished ansarudeen sch, wike declared rivers a xtian state, no noise but when a muslim fight for his right the media will explode, hypocrites

Then you are either a liar or simply mischievous. What happened in to Christians in the 90s when Reinhard Bonnke and Dr KA Paul came for evangelization. Your kinds in this same Ilorin maimed, killed and destroyed churches. You made sure that the program didn’t hold within the city and Christians had to make use of a Budo Efo walking long distances to get there. In 2018, during New Year Day, you attacked Christians worshippers at Taiwo Isale axis. CAC, Methodist, ECWA and the Catholic Churches were attacked and girls were even raped. In 1999, 17 churches were attacked when Christians resisted the introduction of Shariah law. This was in a state that Christians constitute 40% of the population.

Dude some of us have lived 30+ years in Ilorin. We know you more than you know yourselves. You are belligerent lying religion fundamentalists and you will all fail. No wonder your people are dumping your religion and embracing the light elsewhere. Those rubbish you do up north cannot work here.

urbobo20:
but am suprise at my christain brothers dont they have choir robe to balance the equation , u dont have to fight over every thing . ask your children to wear even white garment cloth to school

That was part of the plan this morning. The churches across different denominations had a meeting yesterday evening. They will never compromise.

Patrioticman007:
Read about your history before you come to any conclusion. Did the Africans invite the colonial masters & their pet project called the missionaries ?.
These colonial masters/ missionaries called your ancestors barbarians & destroyed their culture.
Since after the independence instead of the Africans to live in love & harmony side by side these missionaries schools controlled by black are discriminating against their fellow blacks.
Its on record Mary mother of Jesus covered her head, why are these Illuminati agents against morality but love showing unclothedness in the church.

Keep quiet with your revisionist history. Who turned Afonja’s shrine to a mosque in Ilorin? Who force Yorubas in Ilorin to change their names to Abdul- Moha- Shehu? The missionaries agenda was different from colonialists agendas if not even you would have been forced into Christianity today but they didn’t do that. Only you people gave people the option of conversion, subjugation & payment of jizya or death.

lafiagi007:
You haven't answered my question bro, Nigeria is a secular nation right? Everyone has the right to dress in his own way, moreover, the Muslim schools in kwara state (a Muslim state) don't force Christian students to wear hijab, why should the Christian schools be forcing Muslim students to pull off hijab? If you're to be logical you should know you're the ones being mischievous here.
As for your last point/question, because your mind has registered it that way, that's how you'll always see it, we saw wike demolishing a mosque last year claiming rivers is a Christian state you never opened your mouth to criticise him, but now, it's a Muslim that's involved it's violence, sense no go kee you my brother.

Everything you said became trash after you Kwara is a Muslim state nonsense. Look around dude, there are more churches in Ilorin than mosques lol. Maybe your town in Lafiagi is a Muslim town sha but as long as we are all under this Kwara, there’s no such thing as a Muslim state here. How many Muslims are in Moro, Oyun, Afon, Ifelodun, Ekiti Kwara? You know nothing.

CodeTemplar:
Commonsense questions to ask is was the grant used to build the schools or to cover recurrent cost 47 years ago?
I never realizes partially covering recurrent cost of a property can transfer its ownership. This move should be resisted by all Christian schools around including those not affected by this yet because if they succeed with this demonic takeover, they will use the covido palliative to make inroad into all school that enjoyed the cash transfer to staff members.


Can my neighbor who charges phones in my house after fueling my gen for one night or week use that as excuse to become a stakeholder in my generator or my life?

Exactly. Grant aiding schools doesn’t imply ownership. Even some private universities in Nigeria enjoys government grants, does that make them FG schools? These guys are just silly.

tamdun:
If Muslims start now you hypocrites will say their intolerant, ur Catholic sisters can wear veil but a muslim cannot, why

Catholic sisters in their domain, the church and not the school. If a Cherubim & Seraphim Christian wears her garment to Ansarudeen School, you people won’t have a problem with that? Negro please.

Sam0:
I did my secondary school at Taoheed secondary school in Ilorin some years back and the Christians were allowed to have their FCS in the school, the Christian and Muslim prayers run concurrently on the Assembly ground.Am a christian and till now I can pray very well in Islam till now same with the Muslim students they can pray and recites the Lords prayer. so this your point of government schools not allowing christian student to have their FCS is false.

In Ansarudeen School in Ipe, Christians are not allowed to have FCS within the school but their counterpart had that privilege to do their own thing. I know someone qualified whom was not allowed to become a principal in Sheik Abdulkadri at Asa Dam because she was a Christian. The outgoing principal confided in her point blank. If you think Christians are not being subjugated and unfairly treated in Kwara, it’s either you are not from there or you are super ignorant.

lafiagi007:
I think the comparison you're making here doesn't hold any substance, why? Because we're not talking about worship here but dress code and I'm sure no Muslim school in kwara forces it's Christian students to wear hijab because it's a Muslim school so why should a Christian school, aided by the government of the state that is predominantly Muslim try to force it's Muslim students not to wear hijab? Let's be logical men!

Oh please the comparison is on point. You hinge hijab wearing on freedom to identify with their faith demands (which is a veneration of your god/prophet) supremely over the school’s which has always had berets as their dress code since inception but quick to downplay the Christian student from identifying with their own biblical demands. Your hypocrisy stinks.

Tell me why there are mosques within most government offices in Kwara but no single chapel in any? You clowns give what you can’t take an inch of.

Sirjamo:
Are we talking about the state or your tiny village?

Dindinrin wat makes a state a state? Is it not combination of villages, hamlet & towns? If you want your state exclusive to only you, you should have agitated for solely Ilorin state and stop dragging others into your fruitless Islamic expansionism crap.

Sirjamo:
What people don't take into consideration in such issues is the political angle.

Kwara is predominantly Muslim, no government will be stupid enough to go against the majority religion, it would be a political suicide.


Wike declared Rivers a Christian state and Nairaland group of hypocrites hailed him.


Kwara is a Muslim state, but I do not support the decision to send hijab wearing children to mission schools, they would never fit in, but then, I am not a politician.



I AM DONE TALKING

I am from Kwara State and my town is a Christian dominated town do wtf are you talking about with Kwara being a Muslim state? Do you even know how many people here that have left Islam for Christianity? Baba abeg shut it. Kwara South is not in your majority demographics stat.

This whole thing is a big mess with easy solution. Let every government owned institutions, agencies, schools, parks, malls etc have equal representation. Just as there are mosques in virtually all offices in Ilorin, let there be chapels built for Christian fellowship too, just as there’s a College of Arabic & Islamic Studies in the state, let there be a state funded theological school for Christians. After all, we are all taxpayers. No student should be denied wearing of hijab, berets, rosaries etc in any public school in the state. Equal provision should be made for a mosque & church ground within all schools regardless of their location. If we are looking for equality, justice, secularism & true freedom, this is how to do it so that no one feels trampled upon.

Nkwobi042:
Since I saw a live video of this Fulani _fuvking their cows, I rarely eat beef.

Say whut?

post=99518239:
This is the whole truth of the matter, that some troublemakers refused to understand.
Hypocrites everywhere....


We remembered how we used to live as brothers as sisters in our darling nation with these same Fulani herdsmen.
The times we gave water and food to herdsmen journeying across the nation as they go on their business peacefully,
Just with their sticks for their cattles and kettles for their prayers.
May it never be well with troublemakers in our darling nation.
May it never be well with all evil herdsmen and all their sponsors, along with proscribed ipob terrorist organizations and any other persons, group or politicians sponsoring chaos and violence in our land.

No matter all manner of violence or chaos some devilish people are causing all over.

Nigeria is ONE and that IS FINAL.

This too shall pass.....




Hmmmm, this is deep and so emotional.
Most of us @[color=#006600][/color] can testify to this too.
This is what politics of hatred and bitterness can do to some evil people.

Dude STFU with all that we used to live with each other water nonsense. People change, deal with it. Even Osama Bin Laden was once an innocent baby. These herders have chosen a destructive path and on numerous occasions, their elites have admitted to this. Only you living in your foolish denial is yarning dusts here. Please don’t insult our intelligence.

Nobody cut corners like the Chinese.

yetunsbay:
lol. Who do you think go feel the impact the more with time. North or SW

The SW 100%. Not only will our agro industries boom. The people’s economic lives will ultimately change. Prosperity, jobs, economic excellence beckons.

jimyjames:
Trash, Fulanis still rules Ilorin, the emir of Fulani is the most powerful ruler in Ilorin

Lol you conquered nothing. The land you took with a fox slyness is already rejecting you. You are surrounded. Kolapo Gambari was stoned just some years ago, the people of Moro & Jebba are vocal about their Oba’s recognition, the people of Ganmo were resolute & face the oppressive system of your emir a few years ago when they appointed their Oba too, the people of Oro rejected your herder’s brothers just weeks ago. Even in the heart of Ilorin at Idi Ape, their is an agenda and Afonja is celebrated alongside other festivities annually now. The momentum is high and it’s only a matter of time for you and your kith.

thebosstrevor1:
It is in northern Nigeria

Lol no farm in the north has a daily output production like Obasanjo Farm in Ota. None is sophisticated, technologically inclined like it in Nigeria. Mind you this is not just a cassava farm. They are into everything. How long do you think it will take to plant and cultivate tomatoes and onions? Lol there will only be a shift in demand from the South to places like that. Sanity and growth will be restored to Southwest, Southeast & Middlebelt agro industries.

thebosstrevor1:
Investment na mouth.

Why didn't they start the investment long time ago?

You can not force people into farming.

Investment no be by mouth. The largest farm producing farm produce in Nigeria today is still in Nigeria. All that needs to be done is just adjust distribution channels.

Juliusmalema:
Yorubaland is religiously a muslim community

So it may not be out of context if the Muslims community are just trying re-assert their influence again..

By the way Oyo state is predominantly a muslim state..

Let the Muslims tell us when Islam arrived that community?

Christians should tell us when Christianity reached there?

That will put the issue to rest.

Shut up with your concocted bullshit. You people just pull crappy statistics out of your a$$. Ode said majority.

jimyjames:
The Fulanis are more concerned about Yorubaland Ilorin belongs to the Fulanis by conquest, and Fulanis integrated with many yoruba communities in South West Fulanis can easily leave south east cause they have nothing in common with Easterners, but they will stand and fight in South West cause they feel they belong there

A very foolish take. Go and check what right of conquest means. Something that was abolished since WWII. For it to even stand in the first place, there must have been a war between the two party. In Ilorin's case your forefathers only waited till Afonja was old and weary, then snucked in to lay a siege in his home & assassinated him. This wasn't a war. Also in right of conquest, the subdued people must not even have the littlest chance of reclaiming ownership through a standing force. Now when the Brits crushed Ilorin in 1897, your forefathers just got an a$$whooping from the Yoruba in Osogbo and drowned away in Odo Otin by the Offa forces. Infact, your Emir's son your head of slave called Jimba were captured alongside others and were sent back to Ilorin. The two most powerful chiefs in the city after this were Balogun Alanamu & Balogun Ajikobi. Your emir was reduced to a mere puppet, no wonder why he quickly came to pledge allegiance to the Brits so that they would help restore his control.

You should be thankful to the Brits, they were the reason the offensive reclamation war by the Ibadan forces stopped. So take your stupid conquest nonsense across the Niger Bridge.