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chic2pimp:
Fair enough you see it as hype while I see it as substance.
A good example of a player that get's more hype than he deserves is Ibra not Zizou.


Also from the years 2002-2006, Dinho was excellent for Club but not country.

P:S I agree with you Ronaldinho's peak of 2002-2006 was better than what Zizou ever had however Zidane played in the much tougher league

Don't you find this a bit contradictory

mystikal:
I think you are just trying too hard to be controversial, Zizou deserves every mention he gets.

Dude are you high on some cheap paraga, if you want to contribute to the discussion, try and focus on the topic and not the poster

P.S- DO not respond to my post unless spoken to.

chic2pimp:
Whilst Zidane/Ronaldo have consistently performed well for both Both Clubs and country Ronaldinho hasn't.

Between 2002-2006 Ronnie was excellent for both club and country. he may have fallen off a bit, but he was exceptional at the peak of his career

I refuse to succumb to the Zidane hype. he is not better than Ronnie. period

v3:
And here i am thinking i needed glasses when i first saw Jayleathers post.

Do you know the meaning of being overrated , why are you guys making it sound like I just labelled him a dud, calm down guys

Being overrated doe not mean you are shit, it basically means you get more appraisal and recognition than you actually deserve

dayokanu:
I am shocked. Beyond words.

Zidane overrated? Mo GBE!!!!

I am crying right now. The god of soccer "SUSU" overrated?

Only Ronaldo comes close. Look at it. Before Zidane there was no France(They didnt qualify for US 94), Zidane came on scene EURO 96 semi, France 98 winners, EURO 2000 winners, Japan Korea-Zidane Injured (2002) they couldnt score a goal, After Zidane, They came last in their groups. Zidane retired momentarily, They couldnt beat Faroe Island, Israel and co. Zidane came back they got to the world cup finals.

For someone who scored the best goal in the CL finals.

Tell me any player who has won local leagues, CL, World cup, Euro cup, Ballon D'or and multiple WPOTY and they call this guy overrated.

If this were to be in the days of Napoleon, Nothing sure for you pass Guillotine

Yes, I said it, Zidane is overrated.  Mind you, that is not disputing his ability and achievement as a great player, but most people give him too much props

than he really deserves.

At France 86- the success of the team should be attributed to the team, it was a collective display from france with the likes of Desailly, Barthez (the torny's

best keeper), Thuram, Lizarazu, Deschamps, Henry et al, they were all amazing. same as euro 2000

some people dub Zidane as the god of footie, let's calm that sh1t down a notch, that's all I'm saying.

dayokanu:
Chei Jalether,

Na you dem abuse like dis, if na me I no go gree. I for don break him head cuss him mama join.

Oya take bottle bust for Nateevs head. He no get crase!!!!

This is different from the pillow fight you and edoyad engage in , we can discourse footie without resorting to physical violence around here

dayokanu:
Mayhem. Complete mayhem, Absolute mayhem, Undiluted mayhem on the chavs thread.

More. pls

DK, sharrap 4 there, you drama queen, go mind your deserted thread

chic2pimp:
For Real
I won't argue with your choice of Maldini and Ronaldo but Ronaldinho, surely not.

You have only attacked my post without giving a substantial( if any reason at all) for your position in regards to Zidane vs ronaldinho

How is Zidane better than Ronnie

nateevs:
So I put you in your place and shred your analogy to pieces and that's what you can come up with. . . Calling Nateevs a fool don't move him a bit.
You can't deal with anything. That's your problem . . . You can't deal with criticism, you can't deal with losses. . You can't deal with dropping points and you can't deal with a dip in form. . .

If your team puts together a decent away run, it's bonus. . . as far as I am concerned winning the PL is the ultimate for me. . . whether with 1 point or goals difference. . . in fact the less points in the leading race, the more interesting finish we get.

If you like when we win the PL, write a letter to Roman to hand it to the second as we didn't give it our best shot. . . . 3 wins out of 12 away games, so bloody what. . . This is now. Deal with it and stop whining. . .

The Irony of it all is, you are the one that becomes all sensitive whenever anyone attempts to criticize Chelsea or Ancelotti's tactics.

One thing is for sure, I'm not a bootlicker and when we f u c k up , I'm speaking my mind and I don't give a damn what you or anyone thinks, so get used to it

Oh I forgot, I have been conversing with Mr Chelsea himself,who can see no reason to criticize the club, Chelsea can do no wrong.

ritchboy:
Jalether
nateevs has taken you to the cleaners and thats all you have to say for yourself? You are "not giving it your best shot"
to put it bluntly, you are a disgrace!

Take who to the cleaners, Dude if you are looking to start some sh1t up in here, I'm sorry to disappoint you, I simply make my point and

dip out. I  do not go back and forth with meaningless debates. that's not me (of course unless when I'm just playing around and doing it for fun sake)

Blue diva just summarized everything. "3 wins in our last 13 away games is a shame for wannabe champions". I'm out

BlueDiva:
nateevs,

Too bad i'm using a mobile, can't write much.

Please how many games have we played this season that we can call excellent?
Our home game against Everton was a disgrace, against Villa and City, same.

3 wins in 12 away games is a shame for wannabe champions.

Just before you crucify me, remember my username is BLUEdiva. I love my club but we've been just average.
We all thought CR7 absence will be an advantage to us, alas it  made no difference.

Are you minding that fool called Nateevs, I should have known better than to waste my valuable time trying to debate with his a$$

May his soul rest in peace

Rooney is not only better than drogba but a strong contender for WPOTY

Rooney's all round ability and what he brings to the team is priceless

rasputinn:
That's so very true,but we don't care
The Arsenal is marching on to glory this season,so they can come rant all they like,even those that are here cos they're bored to death on heir lonely third reich threads,we still love 'em

We love you DAYO 

Noted and bookmarked

nateevs:
Since you possess the key to this sacred room of profound knowledge, why don't you kindly educate us on your idea of "giving it our best shot". . .
According to you giving it our best shot would mean us being at least 15pts ahead. .

Now I ask you again what gives you the right to feel this way?

If we led the table for 95% of the season and you think we didn't give it our best shot, why don't you walk over to North London . . .
Get a grip man, you are losing perspective . . . In a league where every team has dropped more points than Chelsea after 28 matches you are actually suggesting we didn't give it our best shot. . . What then should the others say?

Absolute bollocks!

you are chatting garbage. In your daft logic, the team's assessment on how well they have perfomed should factor in the competition.

which means, making atrocious individual errors game after game and conceding cheap goals that sometimes cost us 2 or 3 pts that could easily have

been avoided, is giving it our best shot simply because we are on top of the league, what a totally flawed logic

How about  the whole top four teams (man utd, chelsea, liverpool, arsenal) have not giving it their all, this season.

We can use the analogy of a student who has the ability and potential to consistently get a 1st class and perfoms below par in a sem

( ending up with a 2.1/2.2) and in your rather pathetic defense of him you turn around and say he gave it his best shot simply because he is leading the class.

"giving it ones best shot" is not about leading the table but meeting or exceeding expectation in relative to ones ability and potential, now take that to the

bank

doyin13:
Na wa. . . Am I the only one that was underwhelmed by much of Zidane's skills.

Ever since I saw him flop at the '96 Euro's in England, I thought he was
inconsistent with occasional flashes admittedly in the big matches.

And surely anyone who saw Ronaldo Fenomeno of Brazil must recognise
say man pass man.

Ronaldo's far greater athleticism is the tiebreaker. He was extraordinary.

Spot on, Zidane is overrated, some people will have you believe he is the greatest thing since slice bread.

Over the last 2 decade, 3 players really stood out for me- Ronaldo lima, Ronaldinho and Maldinni.

dayokanu:
Clichy is the best LB in the world - Yet he cant get 5 caps for his country at the age of 24

If not for Eduardos injury they would have won treble in 2008 (Eduardo had 4 goals in 17 appearance in the league before he got injured).

Arsenals kids are the best in the planet. Yet we have seen the exploits of Owusu Abeyie, Arturo Lupoli, Hoyte and Aliediere in division 2. Djorou, Senderos are another story

Arsene is the best manager of youths- Yet cant win anything with his kids since he started. LVGaal won CL with kids

Let me be the first to Say this.

By May when they are trophyless again, You would hear " If not for Ramseys injury, we would have won the treble"

They will also blame it on Van Persie

nateevs:
This is absolute garbage. . .
What exactly do you expect us to do? Roll over teams like they didn't come to compete. ?
What gives you the right to think you can't lose matches . . . ?
What right do you have to believe that you must take 3 points in every game?

How did we go 11 pts clear in the first place ? . . Was it not becos Arsenal and Manu dropped 11 points?
So we drop 11 points we suddenly didn't give it our best shot and they did? Or according to you we don't deserve to win the PL because of our performance.

If we lead ManU with 1 point and Arsenal with 3 after our supposed woeful performance of late and we don't deserve to win it then who does?
You lot are spoilt fans who think we deserve 3 points in every game and when we don't get the points, we don't deserve anything or we haven't given it our best shot.

This is shameful and hopeless pride. . .

Who said anything about taking maximum pts from every single game , if our inconsistency over the course of this season is your idea of "giving it our best

shot" then you should bury your head in shame, best shot ko, best shot ni.

chic2pimp:
Me Ke?
I am the Innocent party ooo
Stop making up stories jare.
Nah who try that kain nonsense?

What's more ridiculous, comparing Nasri ton Zidane or Sgana to Thuram

What's next from gayners, Almunia is better than Oliver Kahn

chic2pimp:

Make una free the dude jor

See ya mouth, no be you start am

dayokanu:
Jalether,

Just this morning someone compared Nasri to "SUSU" . 3 times WPOTY and best player in the last 30yrs.

Walcot to Messi is even closer

Folli lost his salary on the jack table when he posted that, that's forgivable as it was posted out of depression and frustration

dayokanu:
If this is the thinking that you started the week with then he week looks bleak

GAYYners are allowed. Nasri compared to "SUSU" already? Wasnt it on this pages that we saw Walcott compared to Messi?

haba dk, who in their right mind compared walcott to WPOTY, I know gayners can be extremely delusional sometimes but not to that extent

Make una free folli pimpi aka baba sizu jare , water pass gari or gari pass water na d same thing

RuuDie:
leave matter. . . .  at least, compared to Eto'o, Ibra na f.cuk ups! that red card was long over-due. . . . plus he is a pro, he should know better; even if u're not scoring, try and bring something else positive to the game 4 your team-mates even if it is helping out in defence - the man just does nothing!

I have seen Ibra help out in defence and midfield countless times this season.

Eastbay:
Ibra at best is over-rated.With the talent around him,he should be leading the scoring chart in La Liga.
He cannot tie Eto'o 's boot-laces in virtually every area of the striking department.
He is good,but as a direct replacement to Eto'o?Nah.

Eto'o had some dry spells at barca as well, in addition, he also wasted gazillion chances and Krayola can testify to that

I'm not attempting to comapre both strikers, however, the season is not over yet and it's only fair to assess his overall performance at

the end of the season.

Ibime:
Am sorry, Ivanovic is simply World Class. Av never seen him make a mistake or look shaky in ma life.

Good game by Alex. I dont know what boys were complaining about him 4.

Good game by Malu in central midfield also.

Are you minding them, he rarely makes mistake, rock solid at the back

Our 1st clean sheet in over 20 yrs, Hallelujah

chic2pimp:
Which Football analysts?
That he scored more goals than other strikers does not make him one.

I'll rather listen to the words of the south american pundits who saw him play than Andy Gray & co.

I bet you can't.

Muller is in the top 3/top 5 strikers of all time.

says who?

Ronaldo, Romario, Pele,Van basten, Di stefano,Puskas are all better than Muller

Let me get this right, Ibra drops in form and has a couple of bad games, all of a sudden he is sh1t

Classic case of knee jerk reaction, even Ronaldo Lima cannot go a whole season without slightly dipping in form

chic2pimp:
Pele was never a striker(No 9), He was a Support Striker

whatever, he has scored more goals than any striker, supporting or not, he is always regarded as the greatest striker of all time by many sport analyst

perhaps the Andy grays and Tyler's of this world are ignorant as well

dayokanu:
Ronaldo Lima (In the last 20yrs)
All time Gerd Muller.

DK, go siddon some where with the Gerd muller yarns jare, I can name you 6 strikers all better than Muller.

OK, I forgot Gerd is german, not a coincident afterall

ednut1:
Nff is silly. Our best ever team 94 could nt make it. Even lars wit his sweden could nt make it. S korea will open our yansh lik they did ivory coast. D truth is bitter we will nt win a single match

Why do people talk like footie is mathematics, we have seen underrated teams pulling out impressive result and having a magnificent torny b4

Turkey came 3rd in 2002, Sweden semi finalist 94 same with Croatia in 98.

Here is a newsflash for you, in torny, it's not all about the the quality and squad depth  but how well you play on the day that matters

Does Senegal 1-0 france, Croatia 3-0 germany ring a bell

~Borat~:
Reading is current ra ping villa,
I see us retaining the FA CUP! 

Not so fast, Villa are 3-2 up now, thanks 2 carew