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Game over, and that's all folks

Chicken shrimp, take heart

chic2pimp:
You know something is wrong when Italian teams don't have quality defenders in their backline
Thiago Silva is the only player worth his salt in that Milanese defence.

True that, it's a shame how soft serie A has become

coded guy:
I will not give the pleasure of exchanging words with u on this.

Someone already said somewhere that some teams celebrate winnig trophies, some celebrate winning games.

do the maths.

all i'll ask u is HOW MARKET FOR THE LAST 5 SEASONS.

I relish the day arsenal finally breaks the jinx, NL will come to a stand still that day

How can a pro footballer that has played top flight footie for over 13 yrs, be so poor at tackling

Milan are fighting back, that is what we like to see.

ROOONEEEEY, dude is hotter than the sun

Emperoh:
If that's not jale, er then it gotta be who. . . .ritchman?

, you must be high on elekute

Do you need a 3D goggle

Happy 105th birthday to the greatest football club in the universe

rasputinn:
@ Diva

[size=14pt]The Arsenal 5 0 Porto[/size]

Just felt like _updating you since you sneaked out of the house

rasputinn:
Since you missed it,may I also inform you that:[size=14pt]

Samir Nasri just scored the UCL goal of the season[/size]

gaynerism is a disease that is curable only through divine intervention, you get problem

My money is on porto to finish the business. Arsenal 2-2 Porto.

chic2pimp:

Close that teeth sharp sharp , see as the guy they disrespect ronnie sha

~Sauron~:
Gerrard is the reason Liverpool have not won a league title.
He is consistently useless.

How can a player with notable individual award under his belt be responsible for liverpool's lack of EPL trophy
       
Ballon d'Or 2005 - 3rd
    * England Player of the Year: 2007
    FWA Footballer of the Year: 2008–09
    * PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2005–06[24]
    * PFA Young Player of the Year: 2000–01[24]
    * PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2000-01, 2008–09
    * PFA Team of the Year: 2003–04, 2004–05, 2005–06, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09
    * FA Premier League Player of the Month: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009
    * UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2004–05
    * UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match: 2004–05
    * UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
    * FIFA/FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009[85]
    * FA Cup Final Man of the Match: 2005–06
Unfortunately, Fifa, Pfa, and Uefa do not see Gerrard in the same light as you sauron.

Liverpool's failure to win the EPL is down to many factors over the years. most significantly is Rafa famous team rotation policy and lack of depth in the squad

They mounted a serious challenge last season because that was the first time He got his team tactics and selection together and kept the key players fit

This season woeful performance can be attributed to Alonso's loss (aquinlani have and can never efficiently replace alonso), and also key players inability to

rise to the occasion. Gerrard, Torres and Caragher have all played below par.

The madrid-sevilla game is easily a contender for match of the season. scintillating game from start to finish

I hope real fully capitalise on barca's slip up.

omar22:
You just proved the point, Goofy played left sided midfield for Brazil at the 2006 WC because the have Adriano and Ronaldo upfront, but struggled when he played on the left thats why Dunga prefers Robinho. but Rivaldo played both left side of a front 3 for Brazil 2002 and Barcelona ,and played left midfield for Brazil in 1998,  and still perform,  if Dinho cant adapt then it shows his limitation in his ability,  at the 1998 WC Zidane played in a Midfield 3 with Deschamp and Petit, he played in a midfield 2 at Juve with Edgar David, he played behind the front 2 strikers or Lone striker for France,  for Madrid he played on the left in front of Roberto Carlos, 

Situation or problems does not make a man, IT REVEALS THE MAN


You see everything that Okocha lacked Zidane had it,  thats timing and end product, Dinho had a bliss of 3 years,  France had to go on knees and beg Zidane out of retirement just to helt France qualify for the world cup,

Versatility is only a valuable asset but should never be a parameter for measuring a players quality

It's like this, William Gallas can play many position at the back including centre half and full back positions, does that make him better than Roberto Carlos or

Cannavaro who were/are less versatile.

In this case, it's the managers fault for playing him out of position, as far as I'm concerned, it's how well you are able to play your natural position that counts

slimshay:
Zizou overated?   Responding to things like this sounds disrespectful to me.

Anyways to the comparisms, i just get the feeling people are more taken in with trickery in football than technique. Just like mentioning Dennilson who dribbles everybody on the pitch and ends up at the corner flag.

Zidane had far more immense technical ability to any player in this generation.

You are not making any sense at all dude

You are comparing Dennilson to the 2X WPOTY, I don't think tricky alone can win a prestigious award in footie.

what is your definition of technicality to start with?

follypimpi:

Go ask Ashley Cole,dude was crawling for his life when the so called schoolboi trick got his backside.Maradona/Zidane all keep it simple and more purposefull but Dinho wld do it the hard way & get same end result.

Folli, what's your position on Zidane vs Ronnie debate

ritchboy:
Sauron
such as? Maradona's only skill/technical attribute that is superior to Ronaldinho is his shooting. I'd say they are on par at dribbling/ball control. Ronaldinho beats him at everything else: technique, passing, crossing, free kicks, penalties, name it.

That is so untrue, ronnie might be better at crossing and technique., however all other aspect, Maradona sh1ts on Ronnie, no questions asked

~Sauron~:
Don't stretch it. . . . . .Maradona is god.
He is better than Zidane and Ronaldinho cloned together.
The things Diego Maradona did in the mid 80s to the early 90s are immeasurable.

110% agree, I confidently say Maradona is the best player to ever lace a football boot

A-40:
Good grief Zidane over-rated?? I laugh in Ajigijaga. . . Mr Big game Performer, Mr Clutch, Mr who i'd want on my team when the game is on the line? Jeez just look at how he destroyed England in Euro 04 with such calm non-chalantness i wont even bother listing other exhibits its not his fault that he saves his best for big games. Ronaldinho is good but even at his peak he was never the main man for Brazil. He ruled Europe for 3 seasons or thereabout and made it count but thats about it! I am not oblivious of his skill but Zidane to Ronaldinho is like a Professor to a Doctor. Zidane is an O.G mehn

You have just strengthened my point in regards to Zidane being overrated, your description of him leads one to believe he invented the game of footie

Now that's what I call being overrated. when you get too much appraisal and recognition than you actually deserve.

ritchboy:
Ronaldinho in his prime shytes on Zidane with consummate ease. What stood out in Zidane's game? His technique, his passing/creativity/vision, his dribbling/ball control. Newsflash: Ronnie can do all that equally well, perhaps even better, and more, SO MUCH MORE!
He is 10 times quicker, he hits a much better free kick/penalty, he is a much better finisher than Zidane. physically, his stamina, balance, agility et al murder Zidane's.

As a matter of fact, in terms of ability/raw talent, Dinho is the most gifted player in the history of football BAR NONE. No other player, not even the Maradonas/Peles could do so many things so well.

Passing - Pin Point
Dribbling - Magnificent
Technique - Flawless
First Touch/Ball Control - Peach
Finishing - Excellent
Free Kicks/Dead Balls - Awesome
Crossing - Inch Perfect
etc etc etc

ability aside, Dinho still trounces Zidane in every other department.

Efficiency - Ronaldinho takes it(as is evident by his far superior stats). Zidane(like many other playmakers in modern football) was a bit of a "luxury player", just a lil bit!
Consistency - in his prime(04-06), Dinho put in majestic performances week in week out over 3 seasons, Zidane never achieved that level of consistency, NEVER!
Versatility - Dinho can play wide forward, second striker, attacking midfield brilliantly( though he's also played on the right and at center forward), Zidane can only play AM.
Entertainment Value - well its the reason we all watch footie, innit? And is there a more exciting player to watch than Dinho? His tricks and flicks are a joy to behold. Damn, i've seen this negro flick the ball over a defender, then turn round and pass it with his back. I mean, who the fukk passes the ball with his spine? IT CAN ONLY BE RONALDINHO!

Now tell me, if Dinho is this superior in terms of ability/talent, efficiency, consistency, statistics, versatility, and flair, what the hell is the basis for comparison?

Hype aside, ZIDANE SHOULD BE LACING RONALDINHOS BOOTS!!!

Now you are taking it too far, let's clam it down a notch

BlueDiva:
Nateevs,
You haven't edited it. I insulted the chap and it's showing in the post u quoted me.
I'm trying to follow your advice of being one big family. I've edited mine.

Okay, let's all chill.
I will be here in May and will apologise to you when we lift the title.

Please let's don't underrate Inter, that game isn't home and dry yet.

I had a dream last night of JT lifting the EPLand UCL trophies respectively , and let me tell you my dreams are always accurate so you might as

well tender your apology now

dayokanu:
Zidane is more direct and purposeful and won more laurels than Dinho then what do you give to Ronaldinho? Snakebite? or Ponytail.

Ronaldinhos exuberant show of skill is just like saying Robinho is better than Figo or Denilson is better than Totti

You are chatting gibberish. Ronnie was just as direct and purposeful as Zidane just with more flair and charisma.

There is nothing wrong in doing a blind pass when a simple pass would ve sufficed as long as the pass reaches the intended target (pass completion)

Players have different style of playing, just because Zidane style is different from Ronnie doesn't prove anything. the key word here

is end product . You can apply different techniques and strategy to arrive at one single destination.

dayokanu:
Zidane is more direct and purposeful and won more laurels than Dinho then what do you give to Ronaldinho? Snakebite? or Ponytail.

Ronaldinhos exuberant show of skill is just like saying Robinho is better than Figo or Denilson is better than Totti

What distinguishes Ronnaldinho from other talented wastes like Robinho, Okocha, DEnilson, Queresma is "productivity"

Ronnie had the skill of Okocha+ Denilson, the football sense and creativity of Zidane and impressive goal scoring ability

BlueDiva:
Nateevs,
Help me edit my insultive remarks from your quoted post.
We're one big family but kids should show respect.

Inter, MU and Pool also have belief.
Belief ain't meant for only us abi?

BD, what happened to the confidence you once had in Chelsea , Inter at Stamford bridge go spell pepper

I don't even see Inter causing major upset at the bridge, TBH. their record in the UCL is far from impressive

nateevs:
TB Joshua ain't gat nothing on the grace wey dey follow me waka . . . 
How can beating Liverpool away 2 games to the end of the league when we need the points the most be extremely low?
I don't get this stuff. . .

That makes it even harder as Liverpool will be fighting to secure a fourth place finish, the cost of losing out on the champions league place will give Liverpool the

extra motivation. It will be a do or die affair. Many odds counts against us

1. Poor away form this season
2. Liverpool and Man utd are just as ambitious as chelsea, man utd is our main competition and liverpool as I stated above need the 4th place finish
desperately

nateevs:
Now you are quoting me wrongly. . .
Chelsea beating ManU and Liverpool has got nothing to do with faith . . It's about if we have the quality. . . And we do.
Hoping and believing that Chelsea will win the league with 1 point ahead and a few matches to go is not by any measure comparable to believing Portsmouth will win the league. . . My belief get sense. . .

Is it possible for Chelsea to win their remaining games faith or no faith? . . . Yes is the answer. . .
I am not asking Burnley to beat ManU . . . I am asking for Chelsea to win their games which as a string of events is not improbable  . .

Making a mountain out of this away form thing is doing my head in. . .
I am not having faith over an impossible thing . . . I am only hoping we win all our matches. . .

That, I believe, is a perfectly sane thing to do. . .

Considering our abysmal away form this season, the probability of taking points off man utd and Liverpool is extremely low, however I do believe

footie aint mathematics.

BTW, wts up with this hope and faith shitzo, or are you TB Joshua in disguise

chic2pimp:
How so?
Ronaldinho had a better peak period but it was aided by the fact he played in a softer league.
Or do you want to compare La Liga's defences to their Serie A counterparts(especially in the 1990's/early 2000's)?

fair point, however Zidane played in  la liga as well and I dare say he had a better career (performance wise) at Juve

the fact that ronnie outperformed zidane in la liga, more significantly, in the galatico era when zidane was sorrounded by

other world class players, should tell you something.

biina:
Ibra is a very good player, just not worth the 70 milla una pay for am, and doesnt offer the flexibility that Eto'o did. With Ibra, the front three are not able to interchange as easily as they did with Henry, Eto'o and Messi, making their attack a bit more predictable.

Pep seems to be experimenting with a 4-2-3-1 formation to try and get Ibra into a more traditional CF role and give messi more flexibility. In the games he has tried it, it has been unsuccessful. Stuttgart nearly killed them in the first half (he reverted to 4-3-3 in the second) and they struggled against Almeria. The key problem being that Messi is not a trequartista and playing through the middle simple takes away from his game. He should stick to the 4-3-3 till the end of the season and hope for the best.

All that no matter sha,as we go kill una for Bernabeau!!!

Excellent post

dayokanu:
Ronaldinho was not in the top 3 performers of 2002 world cup and he was in the top 3 flops of 2006

2002 world cup players of the Tournament

1) Oliver Kahn
2) Ronaldo
3) Hyong yung Bo

4 and 5 would go to Rivaldo and Ballack so where is Dinho?

What makes your list any more credible than mine , the list you provided is either your opinion or fifa's

Don't I have the right to form an opinion based on my individual assessment of the torny

BlueDiva:
I take it you need a debate, something to discuss?

That's the only logical reason for disrespecting the sacred name of Zizou.

How is referring to Zidane as overrated disrespectful, footie is all about facts and opinion, just like some people believe pele is overrated

and Yes I have heard that a lot. moreover I never said Zidane is sh1t, so what's the fuss about

dayokanu:
Jalether,

Tell us about Dinhos brilliant performance for Brazil like you claimed between 2002 and 2006.

Ronaldinhos years were 2004-2006

Ronaldo, Rivaldo, [b]Ronnaldinho [/b]and Oliver Kahn were the top performers of 2002, how can anyone dispute he had a great torny at Korea/Japan