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gabbytabby: While I agree with the core of what you have said. I also believe that we should never loose sight of the facts on the ground. The major factor preventing a lot of projects from people in the diaspora is the inability to find capable and trustworthy hands to man the project and the inability to be assured that the right quality of materials paid for will be used for the project. The questions for Brabus are

1) Does Brabus know the supervisor well enough and has he demonstrated to him that he is capable and trustworthy to handle the project.
2) Was Brabus upfront with the owner that he will not be able to directly supervise the project and will be handing it over to another supervisor.
3) Did Brabus make clear to the owner what the nature of his input will be.
4) Did Brabus source the materials so that he will be assured that the right materials are used.
5) Why was 6" used when 9" was quoted for.
6) What plans has Brabus about the supervision of the project from here on. Is it still going to be in the hands of the same incompetent supervisor or another unknown potentially incompetent one.

When a project is given to you, it is your responsibility. It is totally unprofessional to then say its not me but someone that I put there.

I have not said anything before now because I believe we need to be wise about the decisions that we take. Reflect, take responsibility and take decisions at the appropriate time.

He has paid a good chunk of money upfront such that for me an appropriate time is after the german floor is completed. The owner has to give himself space to decide if he is happy to continue or learn from the experience and move on.

@Jamesqu you can only package and rebrand incompetence to a non-dicerning mind. I do believe that mistake do happen but, this is not mistake but carelessness and very dangerous level of incompetence. The other consideration is the trust implication of using 6" while 9" blocks was quoted for can trust be reestablished.

For the owner, the success of most things that we do is reflected in the level of our questioning. You need to take time to asks questions that makes it clear to you what you are getting for your money before you part with it. Also as you were in Nigeria you really needed to have been there at critical stages such as these.

@gabbytabby...i think you missed my point which was never about his competence or if he did the right thing...but by being open he draws empathy to himself...why do you think some people still fly Dana?

Waoh, this is unbelieveable...Brabus will end up winnning more jobs sef by this open display of honesty and upfront with issues than imagined...he not only has "packaging" but easily "rebrands"...I only wish segcy.moore had adopted the approach of spyder880...although segcy.moore made valid points but being confrontational, washing dirty laundry in the public without having the full story is kind of "pull him down" syndrome...

@OP..congratulobia...but I need to know, will u give Brabus another job if you have it?

@Brabus...yes there are lessons learnt but would u push out a sitting contractor in a foreign territory in future?

Kudos to Brabus.....if na me, I will not near this thread again.....kudos to u fa and best of luck!

^^^@OP, I toT syder880 was acting as consultant post-palaver, where are we on that?

jaydacorsair: Omo the guy package me like oyibo lol.....

Pele...with all his posts online, I had him on speed dail for next year, but after this...I don delete...I feel u!

jaydacorsair: Hello house, I hope yall had a great weekend. This was the first quote brabus gave me which he under-quoted.

But you have to agree, brabus has presentation sha...It's the presentation that the client fell for...packaging!

Compare that with the hand scribbled rubbish the other contractor gave...

^^^^sorry sir :-( :-!

jam04: Truth be told...you case need to be arrested true true

hahahahahahahaha truth be told the two of you need to be arrested for making me laugh so much!

Degis: I laugh in my Yoruba dialect. Can you imagine this assertion that I could be someone's sidekick or double id?, well, to inform you Mr. Floridacar, you are talking BS!.

Ooooooo, u haff fall ma hand...somethings on NL are best ignored!

@Sypder880, I've read what u wrote 10 times and it seems like french or greek all the time. Can you kindly break it down to kindergarten level? What are u asking him to do?

Bizaga: i just hate it when some people lik to put fuel to burning fire. brabus did not make mistake, the man commited a blunder and he knows it.i have browse back to 2 yrs and see where this same brabus do a foundation in love tosin house and forgot to put basket in the foundation and he continue the house. one guy called ahanohai got a raw deal from brabus here and we know it. there is nothing like beef, brabus is not a builder but a pretender.
you cannot tell brabus to redraw the plan because there is nothin wrong with the plan, if there is somting wrong, why did brabus not call the oga and he ignore the list with 9 inches and buy 6 inches, brabus want to cut corners and pocket the change.

how can you tell the owner to bear the loss of materials with magnanimity, why cant you tell brabus that commited blunder to take the loss and pay the man back, , this is the problem with nigeria, preventing the guilty from suffering and therefor promoting mediocrity

Bros, thank you for your contribution.

Brabus made an error is not in contention, that Brabus has a catalog of others in the past is not in contention.

Like Syder880 said, this is being resolved...let's see how this can be corrected. You can hire a builder off NL and have the same issues. Wouldn't you like to know what to do in such circumstances. If the client, who opened this thread is not here bad-mouthing his contractor, why cry more than the bereaved.

I'm sure the client and contractor will resolve how to finance the reconstruction/remodelling...that is between them.

Please, stop the bashing and let us learn before the yank their thread off NL....or keep mute as the two of them have for the past couple of days.

Guys please, calm down. Mud slinging is not the aim of this thread. A mistake has been made, we can all learn from how it will be corrected.

Nothing will be achieved from crucifying anybody. He who has ears and eyes cand hear and see for himself.

I plead with all to only give ways the error can be rectified. Let's not reduce the property section to jokes and entertainment.

God speed!

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Meanwhile, is that true....I wear size 43 o!

FLORIDACAR: @brabus, spider,segcymore & all, Please tell me this is not same house that owner asked for a better builder to help him because another contractor was asking too much? ..that Brabus jump the rope that he can travel to PH to execute the project? Please someone should please tell me it's not same project? Before I know what to comment .

Honestly, @FLORIDCAR....wonderment doesn't want to leave me o...I thought this was a live project, I go away for three days and gbam....the building wants to collapse....this same building we started in April....I see pictures everywhere quoting Sept/Oct 2012....did I time travel or something.....

Jamesqu: @OP, please post your appraisal of Brabus @ the end and during the project. This will enable others patronize or distance themselves from him. Let's wait and see if this can be achieved. Best of luck to you both.

Toor, Mr. Brabus, walahi, I like you, I really really like you....but this doesn't do well for your PR....I hope the situation can be remedied somehow, and I wish you the very best....your topics and posts always sound professional and your insights into issues have been exemplary....but this is practical, this is physical, this is what we all see...I have always marveled at the costs you quote...like that of chateau de Brabus and this one for 3.8m...I wanted to see you do it and shame the archi but this is something else...I'm not an expert, I'm not even a builder but gbogbo everything I'm reading doesn't look good!

jaydacorsair: @Brabus I am back to this thread. Please what can be done to fortify this house....... and make it last the taste of time.

@client, wish you the best....all will be well in the end, if it is not well yet, that means it is not the end yet -Indian saying!

Aventures: And one more thing i want to bring to our notice is that we should start building structures that can withstand seismic effect to some extent as the way our weather is going May the Lord save Nigeria. Thanks

Bro, I doubt we'll ever have earthquakes in Nigeria, maybe storms but not earthquakes as we are not on any seimic zone...we are safe.

Nice point out segcy.moore, I'm loving this thread already. I for one believe the archi's quote will not differ much from brabus final costs with variations.

I'm not an industry expert but I think the client will always get a better deal by allowing different people carryout their functions. Allowing the archi to build the house would have allowed him to concceal or adjust for defects in the drawings. However, I still don't believe brabus final figure will differ from his sha, I hope to be corrected.

Best of Luck bro!

Seriously, review the eggs u don't really need them...take your tea plain, no sugar no milk...and lipton is better than cocoa products...trust me u don't need 3 square meals, its a trick...two should do, leave dinner out...u might have to up the exercise time to more than 30mins, u can't do it by yourself and be disciplined, find a gym and get a support group...best of luck!

First of all, u must be determined and disciplined. Otherwise, u'll never lose jack and build jill.

Secondly, the three square meals a day is a big lie. No one needs that much food except u have a highly physical job such as wood felling, bricklaying or truck offloading etc. ALWAYS have breakfast and that's it for the day. Your breakfast however should not be 5 wraps of starch and no meat, eat quality food and always make the protein 5 times more than the carbs...if u can avoid carbohydrates completely, try.

For the rest of the day, stop those useless snacks...chin-chin, cakes, pastries, chips etc. Ask someone to go buy a full size pawpaw or pine apple and take that. Stock high on apples too. Stop all fried and flour products for now.

Thirdly, the threadmill is not a magic equipment, start walking...breaktime at work, take a walk in the sun, yes u will sweat and all, but you'll get air-con when u get back...gradually increase you walks on a daily basis...whne u get back and feel pangs of hunger, attack the water dispenser, drink till you pee!

Finally, take two days of the week when you won't take any food, just liquids...- didn't say liquor o...liquids such as water, 0% concentrate juice, no fizzy drinks (minerals)....trust me you won't die. If Jesus can do 40 days and Muhammed 30 days, 2 days a week won't kill you...-'ll go for Sunday and Thursday if I were u.

Best of luck...PS:I lost 20kg in 4 weeks with this routine!

I think we Nigerians are abusing tiles usage for exterior...my opinion!

@OP, please post your appraisal of Brabus @ the end and during the project. This will enable others patronize or distance themselves from him. Let's wait and see if this can be achieved. Best of luck to you both.

So what do we do after meals....meanwhile I ate beans one morning and downed it with Lipton...was that the source of my 3 days indigestion/bloat....fart everywhere, 24/7!

You didn't answer my questions up there Brabus.

Kennyblues: Lagos State Governor, Babatunde has finished building the first suspension bridge in
Nigeria. The 1.358km bridge, which will link Ikoyi (Alexander Street) to Lekki (Admiralty Way), cost about N29 billion to build and a toll will be collected to recoup the investment. The


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How this bridge is longer than the San Francisco Bay Bridge is a mystery to me...how did JB measure?

isale_gan2: [size=14pt]Why NBA center Jason Collins is coming out now[/size]
sports Illustrated

I didn't set out to be the first openly gay athlete playing in a major American team sport. But since I am, I'm happy to start the conversation. I wish I wasn't the kid in the classroom raising his hand and saying, "I'm different." If I had my way, someone else would have already done this. Nobody has, which is why I'm raising my hand.

My journey of self-discovery and self-acknowledgement began in my hometown of Los Angeles and has taken me through two state high school championships, the NCAA Final Four and the Elite Eight, and nine playoffs in 12 NBA seasons.

I've played for six pro teams and have appeared in two NBA Finals. Ever heard of a parlor game called Three Degrees of Jason Collins? If you're in the league, and I haven't been your teammate, I surely have been one of your teammates' teammates. Or one of your teammates' teammates' teammates.

Now I'm a free agent, literally and figuratively. I've reached that enviable state in life in which I can do pretty much what I want. And what I want is to continue to play basketball. I still love the game, and I still have something to offer. My coaches and teammates recognize that. At the same time, I want to be genuine and authentic and truthful.

Why am I coming out now? Well, I started thinking about this in 2011 during the NBA player lockout. I'm a creature of routine. When the regular season ends I immediately dedicate myself to getting game ready for the opener of the next campaign in the fall. But the lockout wreaked havoc on my habits and forced me to confront who I really am and what I really want. With the season delayed, I trained and worked out. But I lacked the distraction that basketball had always provided.

The first relative I came out to was my aunt Teri, a superior court judge in San Francisco. Her reaction surprised me. "I've known you were gay for years," she said. From that moment on I was comfortable in my own skin. In her presence I ignored my censor button for the first time. She gave me support. The relief I felt was a sweet release. Imagine you're in the oven, baking. Some of us know and accept our sexuality right away and some need more time to cook. I should know -- I baked for 33 years.

When I was younger I dated women. I even got engaged. I thought I had to live a certain way. I thought I needed to marry a woman and raise kids with her. I kept telling myself the sky was red, but I always knew it was blue.

I realized I needed to go public when Joe Kennedy, my old roommate at Stanford and now a Massachusetts congressman, told me he had just marched in Boston's 2012 Gay Pride Parade. I'm seldom jealous of others, but hearing what Joe had done filled me with envy. I was proud of him for participating but angry that as a closeted gay man I couldn't even cheer my straight friend on as a spectator. If I'd been questioned, I would have concocted half truths. What a shame to have to lie at a celebration of pride. I want to do the right thing and not hide anymore. I want to march for tolerance, acceptance and understanding. I want to take a stand and say, "Me, too."

***
Imagine you're in the oven, baking. Some of us know and accept our sexuality right away and some need more time to cook. I should know - I baked for 33 years.


The recent Boston Marathon bombing reinforced the notion that I shouldn't wait for the circumstances of my coming out to be perfect. Things can change in an instant, so why not live truthfully? When I told Joe a few weeks ago that I was gay, he was grateful that I trusted him. He asked me to join him in 2013. We'll be marching on June 8.

No one wants to live in fear. I've always been scared of saying the wrong thing. I don't sleep well. I never have. But each time I tell another person, I feel stronger and sleep a little more soundly. It takes an enormous amount of energy to guard such a big secret. I've endured years of misery and gone to enormous lengths to live a lie. I was certain that my world would fall apart if anyone knew. And yet when I acknowledged my sexuality I felt whole for the first time. I still had the same sense of humor, I still had the same mannerisms and my friends still had my back.

Believe it or not, my family has had bigger shocks. Strange as it seems today, my parents expected only one child in 1978. Me. When I came out (for the first time) the doctors congratulated my mother on her healthy, seven-pound, one-ounce baby boy. "Wait!" said a nurse. "Here comes another one!" The other one, who arrived eight minutes later and three ounces heavier, was Jarron. He's followed me ever since, to Stanford and to the NBA, and as the ever-so-slightly older brother I've looked out for him.

I had a happy childhood in the suburbs of L.A. My parents instilled in us an appreciation of history, art and, most important, Motown. Jarron and I weren't allowed to listen to rap until we were 12. After our birthday I dashed to Target and bought DJ Quik's album Quik Is the Name. I memorized every line. It was around this time that I began noticing subtle differences between Jarron and me. Our twinness was no longer synchronized. I couldn't identify with his attraction to girls.

I feel blessed that I recognized my own attractions. Though I resisted my impulses through high school, I knew that when I was ready I had someone to turn to: my uncle Mark in New York. I knew we could talk without judgment, and we did last summer. Uncle Mark is gay. He and his partner have been in a stable relationship forever. For a confused young boy, I can think of no better role model of love and compassion.

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Jason Collins played with the Celtics and
Wizards this season, his 12th in the NBA.

I didn't come out to my brother until last summer. His reaction to my breakfast revelation was radically different from Aunt Teri's. He was downright astounded. He never suspected. So much for twin telepathy. But by dinner that night, he was full of brotherly love. For the first time in our lives, he wanted to step in and protect me.

My maternal grandmother was apprehensive about my plans to come out. She grew up in rural Louisiana and witnessed the horrors of segregation. During the civil rights movement she saw great bravery play out amid the ugliest aspects of humanity. She worries that I am opening myself up to prejudice and hatred. I explained to her that in a way, my coming out is preemptive. I shouldn't have to live under the threat of being outed. The announcement should be mine to make, not TMZ's.

The hardest part of this is the realization that my entire family will be affected. But my relatives have told me repeatedly that as long as I'm happy, they're there for me. I watch as my brother and friends from college start their own families. Changing diapers is a lot of work, but children bring so much joy. I'm crazy about my nieces and nephew, and I can't wait to start a family of my own.

I'm from a close-knit family. My parents instilled Christian values in me. They taught Sunday school, and I enjoyed lending a hand. I take the teachings of Jesus seriously, particularly the ones that touch on tolerance and understanding. On family trips, my parents made a point to expose us to new things, religious and cultural. In Utah, we visited the Mormon Salt Lake Temple. In Atlanta, the house of Martin Luther King Jr. That early exposure to otherness made me the guy who accepts everyone unconditionally.

I'm learning to embrace the puzzle that is me. After I was traded by the Celtics to Washington in February, I took a detour to the Dr. King memorial. I was inspired and humbled. I celebrate being an African-American and the hardships of the past that still resonate today. But I don't let my race define me any more than I want my sexual orientation to. I don't want to be labeled, and I can't let someone else's label define me.

On the court I graciously accept one label sometimes bestowed on me: "the pro's pro." I got that handle because of my fearlessness and my commitment to my teammates. I take charges and I foul -- that's been my forte. In fact, during the 2004-05 season my 322 personals led the NBA. I enter the court knowing I have six hard fouls to give. I set picks with my 7-foot, 255-pound body to get guys like Jason Kidd, John Wall and Paul Pierce open. I sacrifice myself for other players. I look out for teammates as I would my kid brother.
I go against the gay stereotype, which is why I think a lot of players will be shocked: That guy is gay?

I'm not afraid to take on any opponent. I love playing against the best. Though Shaquille O'Neal is a Hall of Famer, I never shirked from the challenge of trying to frustrate the heck out of him. (Note to Shaq: My flopping has nothing to do with being gay.) My mouthpiece is in, and my wrists are taped. Go ahead, take a swing -- I'll get up. I hate to say it, and I'm not proud of it, but I once fouled a player so hard that he had to leave the arena on a stretcher.

I go against the gay stereotype, which is why I think a lot of players will be shocked: That guy is gay? But I've always been an aggressive player, even in high school. Am I so physical to prove that being gay doesn't make you soft? Who knows? That's something for a psychologist to unravel. My motivations, like my contributions, don't show up in box scores, and frankly I don't care about stats. Winning is what counts. I want to be evaluated as a team player.

Loyalty to my team is the real reason I didn't come out sooner. When I signed a free-agent contract with Boston last July, I decided to commit myself to the Celtics and not let my personal life become a distraction. When I was traded to the Wizards, the political significance of coming out sunk in. I was ready to open up to the press, but I had to wait until the season was over.

A college classmate tried to persuade me to come out then and there. But I couldn't yet. My one small gesture of solidarity was to wear jersey number 98 with the Celtics and then the Wizards. The number has great significance to the gay community. One of the most notorious antigay hate crimes occurred in 1998. Matthew Shepard, a University of Wyoming student, was kidnapped, tortured and lashed to a prairie fence. He died five days after he was finally found. That same year the Trevor Project was founded. This amazing organization provides crisis intervention and suicide prevention to kids struggling with their sexual identity. Trust me, I know that struggle. I've struggled with some insane logic. When I put on my jersey I was making a statement to myself, my family and my friends.

The strain of hiding my sexuality became almost unbearable in March, when the U.S. Supreme Court heard arguments for and against same-sex marriage. Less then three miles from my apartment, nine jurists argued about my happiness and my future. Here was my chance to be heard, and I couldn't say a thing. I didn't want to answer questions and draw attention to myself. Not while I was still playing.

I'm glad I'm coming out in 2013 rather than 2003. The climate has shifted; public opinion has shifted. And yet we still have so much farther to go. Everyone is terrified of the unknown, but most of us don't want to return to a time when minorities were openly discriminated against. I'm impressed with the straight pro athletes who have spoken up so far -- Chris Kluwe, Brendon Ayanbadejo. The more people who speak out, the better, gay or straight. It starts with President Obama's mentioning the 1969 Stonewall riots, which launched the gay rights movement, during his second inaugural address. And it extends to the grade-school teacher who encourages her students to accept the things that make us different.

***

By its nature, my double life has kept me from getting close to any of my teammates. Early in my career I worked hard at acting straight, but as I got more comfortable in my straight mask it required less effort. In recent days, though, little has separated "mask on, mask off." Personally, I don't like to dwell in someone else's private life, and I hope players and coaches show me the same respect. When I'm with my team I'm all about working hard and winning games. A good teammate supports you no matter what.

I've been asked how other players will respond to my announcement. The simple answer is, I have no idea. I'm a pragmatist. I hope for the best, but plan for the worst. The biggest concern seems to be that gay players will behave unprofessionally in the locker room. Believe me, I've taken plenty of showers in 12 seasons. My behavior wasn't an issue before, and it won't be one now. My conduct won't change. I still abide by the adage, "What happens in the locker room stays in the locker room." I'm still a model of discretion.

As I write this, I haven't come out to anyone in the NBA. I'm not privy to what other players say about me. Maybe Mike Miller, my old teammate in Memphis, will recall the time I dropped by his house in Florida and say, "I enjoyed being his teammate, and I sold him a dog." I hope players swap stories like that. Maybe they'll talk about my character and what kind of person I am.

As far as the reaction of fans, I don't mind if they heckle me. I've been booed before. There have been times when I've wanted to boo myself. But a lot of ill feelings can be cured by winning.

I'm a veteran, and I've earned the right to be heard. I'll lead by example and show that gay players are no different from straight ones. I'm not the loudest person in the room, but I'll speak up when something isn't right. And try to make everyone laugh.

I've never sought the spotlight. Though I'm coming out to the world, I intend to guard my privacy. I'm making this blanket statement in part to keep rumors and misunderstandings at bay. I hope fans will respect me for raising my hand. And I hope teammates will remember that I've never been an in-your-face kind of guy. All you need to know is that I'm single. I see no need to delve into specifics.
I've been asked how other players will respond to my announcement. The simple answer is, I have no idea. I'm a pragmatist. I hope for the best, but plan for the worst.


Look at what happened in the military when the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy was repealed. Critics of the repeal were sure that out military members would devastate morale and destroy civilization. But a new study conducted by scholars from every branch of the armed forces except the Coast Guard concluded that "cohesion did not decline after the new policy of open service was put into place. In fact, greater openness and honesty resulting from repeal seem to have promoted increased understanding, respect and acceptance."

The same goes for sports. Doc Rivers, my coach on the Celtics, says, "If you want to go quickly, go by yourself -- if you want to go farther, go in a group." I want people to pull together and push ahead.

Openness may not completely disarm prejudice, but it's a good place to start. It all comes down to education. I'll sit down with any player who's uneasy about my coming out. Being gay is not a choice. This is the tough road and at times the lonely road. Former players like Tim Hardaway, who said "I hate gay people" (and then became a supporter of gay rights), fuel homophobia. Tim is an adult. He's entitled to his opinion. God bless America. Still, if I'm up against an intolerant player, I'll set a pretty hard pick on him. And then move on.

The most you can do is stand up for what you believe in. I'm much happier since coming out to my friends and family. Being genuine and honest makes me happy.

I'm glad I can stop hiding and refocus on my 13th NBA season. I've been running through the Santa Monica Mountains in a 30-pound vest with Shadow, the German shepherd I got from Mike Miller. In the pros, the older you get, the better shape you must be in. Next season a few more eyeballs are likely to be on me. That only motivates me to work harder.

Some people insist they've never met a gay person. But Three Degrees of Jason Collins dictates that no NBA player can claim that anymore. Pro basketball is a family. And pretty much every family I know has a brother, sister or cousin who's gay. In the brotherhood of the NBA, I just happen to be the one who's out.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/magazine/news/20130429/jason-collins-gay-nba-player/

1. It's a shame living a lie
2. It's a shame people won't understand him
3. It's a shame his career might be over
4. If you have know discrimination, prejudice, condemnation, you'll feel for this guy
5. There are many more in active sports, even in Nigeria, even outside of sports...
6. If you understand what makes a man gay or how he came to be gay...then you can make peace with him...otherwise you'll just pull your hairs out for nothing.

Best of luck bro!

brabus: Vaulted Ceiling (Wood)

1. What kind of wood is this?
2. What kind of treatment/finishing?
3. When people say, "my roof costs 1million", does that normally include ceiling or just roof and wood trusses or just the roof?

brabus: The 2nd pisho is a work in progress at Chateau de Brabus. It's actually an imitation of the 1st pisho

The wrought iron works are also ongoing.

I sure will like to see the finished product...with all these talk about pvc long term effect on health, we may be going back to wood soon...or what do you think...I saw pop installation process at an hotel gym recently and I wasn't impressed, the particles from the work was all over the place and I'll bet top dollar that it would be dangerful for inhalation....

brabus: PVC - N1300 - 1500 per sqm
POP - N2100 - N2500 per sqm
Vaulted/Coffered Ceiling (wood) - N15,000 per sqm

Chineke God of Umahia!

brabus: Coffered Ceiling Imitation using POP ceiling at Chateau de Brabus.

are u telling me that first pisho is of le chateau de brabus a shaggy?

brabus: It's more expensive. What we did was just on the external part of the building (terraces and porch). POP ceiling was used in the internal parts.

Can you put some hypothetical figures to it, say PVC is x then POP is 1.5x and Vaulted Wood is 10x...like that for the same sqmetres area...?

brabus: Vaulted wood ceiling is what we installed on the unit beside the current project. I'm not on site at the moment, I'd have shown your pics. We have experts handling the installation.

Okay, will wait till Monday to see what u did...however u didn't address the cost issue in relation to pvc, pop or the forbidden absetos...

brabus: Interior Finishes on my mind.

First of all, when you say 17m, let them know its for the twin duplex...hope am right....

Meanwhile, what do you know about vaulted wood ceilings, extent of use in Nigeria, its suitability for this clime, the attendant cost if one decides to go for it and available expertise to handle it....I know I've seen it in some churches and homes in the countryside...some not vaulted though but just plain wood.