Liebermantic:
In all of Bonny history, Jo men were not mentioned... neither was their language..
What connects Bonny to Ijaw?
Losing Biafra civil war shouldn't make Ijaw to lay claim of Igbo independent cities..Well, we are waiting for the D-day..

Stop telling yourselves that lie to feel good.What has losing the Biafra war got to do with Bonny?

What is wrong with your nano-sized brains?

I have asked that you present proof of how the Ijos supposedly took Bonny from the Igbos and none of you have been able to do that.But you consistently conjure conjectures from your hairy asses and you present them as fact.

Again I say, chronicle how the Ijos took over Bonny and Opobo or Brass from Igbos.Give exact period/timeline,mode of occupation.

If indeed it happened as y'all say,then you must give it to the Ijos.Only a superior race/tribe can displace another from its homeland and spread its influence.In other words,you've admitted Ijos are superior to Igbos.Which infact we are.

Liebermantic:
Now, no Ijaw person on this forum can confidently claim that Igbo spoken in BONNY was through slave trade..That lies have been decimated..No Ijaw King recorded in Bonny..Why are you forcing Ijaw language on people you claim are Ijaw? Do you know Ijaw do not put this energy in Bayelsa. Over 60% of Ijaw in Bayelsa do not speak or understand Ijaw language..So many Indigenes of Bayelsa do not speak IJAW or understand the language..Why Bonny and Opobo?
It is no longer possible..We will take down all the social sites you guys are peddling this false narrative. We are just beginning.

Oga,go Bonny yourself and confirm that.The King Edward Dappa People,Perekule III has been celebrating his 25th Jubilee.You and your Igbo land grabbers should have been there to inform him of his Igbo origin.

You should be tired of these academic back and forth by now since it leads to no where.Ijos own Bonny,Opobo,Nembe,Brass, Kalabari and Okrika and most of the oil rich parts in the NigerDelta (Delta,Ondo, Bayelsa and a little part of Akwa Ibom),so deal with it.It's your reality and nothing you can do about it.

You can whine all you want on Nairaland and call us unprintable names.It is what it is.

Alabo7978:

ok, it isn't Bonny anymore, now it's nembe.
I can bet my balls this fool hasn't been to Nembe before.
e'ni torumadighe, ogbori-nama

That guy is the dumbest of the lot.Ignore him.

People who haven't been to Nembe or Bonny and yet claim to know more than the indigenous people.Isn't that the height of stupidity.They browse information on the internet and think they know it all.

Alabo7978:

Ekealterego bkayy Liebermantic
Come and see your clown.
Mkpuru'mmiri drugs is too bad.

In the Nembe aiteo spill thread he had another meaning for okoluma.
JANK23H robbstark dubailandlord4
Would you imagine this fool.

You can see they are twisting everything.Even when their own excerpts show that Okoloma was named after the Curlew birds.

Ekealterego:


Okay, I will help you. Now that you accepted that they are Igbo.

Curlew means Fly away/Run away.

Curlew is an old French word which means fly messenger.

Okoloma in this sense, will mean "fine bird fly away". which is a mixture of Igbo and the French derivative of Curlew.

Now, tell me where Ijaw is written in all these things?

we have mentioned Igbos and connected them to Bonny. Give us Ijaw let's see.
Give us one single evidence.

Guy you for no type this thing I swear.
You just made a fool of yourself.In an attempt to twist everything,you simply showed how uninformed you are.

Curlew is Okolo in Ijo
Ama means Town
Okoloama/lOkoloma is Curlew town and not that fabrication of yours.

Putindbutt:
Empty head. The fact that he made an appearance on Ted shows he is intellectual. The fact that his speech was selected and posted on the website among other several speakers shows that he is very relevant among people that matters . Moreover, attendance demands large gross income than videos on blogs or website.

One of the reason i don't like this girl quoting me, it feels worse than a leper's touch. It show her head is just an exhibition of an empty box.

I've learnt to ignore her and the other dunce that calls himself Malawian

9Pluto:
For those that want a clearer perspective on the ethnic difference between ijaw/ijo and Oru, take a look at this map.

Notice how Ijos are restricted to the western part of the delta.

Notice how Igbos are not in Bonny

Malawian:

When the British finally defeated Aros and made themselves the only coercive force in the region, the Ijaw they brought with them were now free to come out of their boats to settle on land. Before then, those pirates were always dealt with by tribal warriors whenever they stray close to land.

The "daftest" of them all speaks.

Vintagepipes:


......Okay what about this one on Oxford?

.....What of this one on Springer

........What of Google.

.........If this is not trolling, then people might question you guy's intellect.

........ . you can do better.

That's what I just stated.Your Oru-Igbos are located in Oguta, Kalabari Beach/Aro quarters in Imo state,Onisha and parts Delta state where they are known as Ika.There is no nexus with Bonny,Opobo or Nembe.Ijos are the Orus,hence the need for the distinction "Oru-Igbo".Oru-Igbo because they reside around the water just like Ijos.

Don't change the narrative.That map you displayed isn't anywhere near the areas under contention.

IDENNAA:



These European historians were very meticulous in dealing with details its mind blowing. I know we like to counter many works carried out by local historians for bias , and , this includes the work of the treacherous Alagoa. But , are you aware in the book , Lower Niger and its Tribes by Leonard Glynn , Olu/ Oru were documented as a completely separate group from Ijaw?

Henceforth, you can't pick and chose whichever historians account that supports your arguments and reject the rest....remember nobi ogogoro joint we dey. Point being, in the beginning of European exploration , Ijaw nowhere in the site and nobody knew them but the Oru people were clearly identified as a separate group.

We are talking about the Orus(Ijos) and not your Oru-Igbos who migrated from Benin forming Ika,Onisha,Oguta and Kalabari Beach in Imo state.Don't muddle things up.They were never linked to Bonny,Opobo or Nembe.

You never read to understand.The Ijos have always been referred to as Orus.

Vintagepipes:

.......So, Oxford University is doctored

...........So Chukwudi now owns Google map?

.......Jell-Bahlsen is now an Igbo woman?

...........Put the drink down Bro........

That book chapter has Igbo editors Oga.Don't think we are all novices here.

Putindbutt:

It is a shame, moreso, a big fraud to think such a thing among the minorities who clearly have their own histories. This fraud did not start with the modern generation of ibos but it was the manual that was handed to them by the whites.
Have you noticed that ibos would label you ibo just because you bear an ibo name or remotely have a similar dialect as any of the ibo dialects.

Yes I have.

Infact they've gone as far as the SW to claim areas with seeming Igbo names as having Igbo connection.

The British really whittled our (Ijos) powers and influence.Just like they did to the Benin empire. They were more disposed to the Igbos and elevated them.If only they knew Nigeria gave them more than they had.

oyatz:


Even in 2021, many Nigerians wrongly classify many tribes as belonging to the nearest large tribe.


On the eve of the 2011 election, I was discussing about the election with some of my co-workers in Your State, I was surprised that so many (educated) Yobe people wrongly assumed that Goodluck Jonathan is an Igbo man.
I took time to educate them that Jonathan is an Ijaw man and the Ijaws aren't parts of the Igbo ethnic group.

It quite sad.Unfortunately,we on this divide do same to Northerners.

We classify all of them as Hausa/Fulani,when there are so many distinct ethnic groups in the North.

The perception of Jonathan as an Igbo man and his soft spot for Igbos caused him alot as president.

Bkayyy:

From evidences, including the snippets that is acknowledged by Alabo7978 which featured the Nembe dialect Baikie met when he toured Nigeria. The dialect he later compared with Isuama dialect. The evidence that proves beyond reasonable doubt that Nembe indigenes then spoke in Igbo.

By the way, which minority are you talking about?
Are you talking about the same Minorities that are currently committing Cultural Genocide on the people of Bonny?
The same minority that changed the name of someone's ancestor from Pepple to Perekule?
The same Minority that once challenged the legal existence of Opobo?
The same minority that is blackmailing the indigenes of Bonny, Opobo and Bom (New Calabar) by attaching a stigma to their Igbo heritage?

The minority that have conditioned the indigenes of Nembe to second fiddle and is now advocating to totally eradicate the origins and culture of Bonny people?

The minority that is doing this below?

Guy I've told you to go and rest.

Indigenes of Nembe.

Alabo7879 Dem say you no be Indigene o.Better find another village o.

Putindbutt:
Take a look at the snippet below, what do you discover?

The whites had done a great disservice to the minority tribes of the Niger delta by classifying a lot of the tribes as ibo. I would be less harsh on the whites for the fact that they lacked the understanding of the unique dialectical and geographical distribution of many tribes of the Niger delta, thereby wrongfully lumping together a lot as being ibos.
Ibos started began leaving the hinterland through slavery and then after, heavy migration to settle among many tribes of the Niger delta. By their huge population concentration, ibos could easily submerged, overwhelm & greatly influence their host minorities. Little wonder, many of their surrounding neighbors with whom they share boundaries are heavily influenced and most times, acculturated.

The submission of the author in No72 is a great injustice against the minorities who clearly have their own distinct identities different from the ibos.

JANK23H
Alabo7879
Oyatz

I know Binaowei,that's what they hold on to.I stated it severally on this platform that a lot of minority tribes were and still are classified as Igbos.I have been called Igbo on so many occasions.Some European writers made alot of these mistakes,and these people are holding on to it.

Until they they get to the ground and amongst the people before they realize their folly.

Vintagepipes:


....There might be Ijawnised Oru today like Biseni, who still kept their Igbo surnames
.......However, ancient Oru are Igbos.

There are too many studies.

.....This talk is even needless, you must be trolling at this point.

Take Igbo doctored nonsense off my mention.

Biseni is Igbo now too?Oporopo!


Aren't you going to the International court again.The other one said you are going to attack physically instead.

Confused and desperate people.

OfoIgbo:


We don't have to first approach them. We just claim our territory. If you yarn shit, we just kill you guys off, and approach the ICC to declare you guys aggressive landgrabbers, with enough evidence to sink the Titanic.

Your down syndrome boyfriend Alabo7978 had better make sure not to be anywhere around Ubani at the appointed time, or we de-dick him and hang his solitary ball at the IbiniUkpabi entrance, as the Jo-men attornment for not worshipping their Aro gods for quite a while now

Archived.

OfoIgbo

We will remember it

BKayy:

How I wish you people imposed yourselves on those places to begin with.

Technically speaking, you people are not exerting any political right on any of those places. The last you people tried to make a decision there was resisted by Opobo, and they later disgraced you lots at the supreme Court.

So, I hope you understand that when the need rises, Ndigbo has more to gain in physical confrontation than Court arguments.

Yes I understand

BKayy:

You know it is undeniable. Jo men weren't existing in Southern Nigeria until late 19th century.

Eh en?

BKayy:

There is no Jo men, Ejo or whatever you people are known with today in any book prior to late 19th century.

Guy you are falling hand.Go and rest.

Take a cool shower and snuggle up in your bed.

Alabo7978:

First is baikie grouping the ijoid Languages

Second is what he grouped and it's relation to Oru(ijo)
Now get out.

No o....


The latest is now Oru-igbo.I had barely finished writing about them divorcing Ijo from Oru.The thing sef don dey down.


Oru-Igbo

BKayy:

You know when.

I'm excited.

I can't wait.

BKayy:

Actually, Ndigbo won't need International Court when the time comes because we will gain more from physical confrontation.

When will you start?

BKayy:

You were saying?

abegi shift......

Like you would say,show us excerpts from a neutral source,from the 15th century to 18th century

All these Igbo doctored work dey pain my eye.

If make me vex, I'll bring out Alagoa's books now.

OfoIgbo:


You have now completely deviated because we have whooped you silly.

Show us evidence that the original Ubanis were Jos.
That is all you need to do.

So far multiple Igbo origin evidence have been forwarded to this group. Our bible was written with an Igbo king of Ubani, helping to request for that project. The Igbo king of Bonny did not ask for a Jo-men bible.

When you have evidence of Jo-men origins for Ubani, you can come for us to still obliterate you.

Meanwhile, you drunkard god Alagoa has been sunken by proper educated peers of his.

Erm....by the way,with all these outstanding findings from Crow and Co.When are you approaching the International court of whatever for settlement?

BKayy:

That was how you people changed Pepple to "Perekule"
So you are saying that we are all blind or that Baikie don't know what he heard around Nembe and Oru-Igbo?

He said that "throughout all the district all but one language is spoken" and from what we saw Orisa, Ute, Mingi/mmiri, ọwụ/ọgwụ proves it.

All is Igbo, and if you read the appendix, you will see that he wrote in comparison with Igbo in general of which he chose Isuama dialect.
In the book he recognised Aboh as having control over most of those parts and Bonny people calling a part of Oru "Aboh nta" which means "smaller Aboh" in Igboland language and the real Aboh "Aboh ba" which means "Greater Aboh" in the same Igbo Language.

Now what concerns your own ancestors Jo men in all this?

Lol @ Oru-igbo

This is a recent one o

BKayy:

You mean one of your Cultural genocide tools?
I am surprised you pirates haven't done video for Bonny. Imagine teaching people new language to speak as mother tongue.

Even your Bayelsa state listed Nembe and Ijaw as two distinct and separate languages. One is Igboid while the Other is not even close to anything in Nigeria.

Mother tongue is not learnt on YouTube but what an individual learn after birth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY_EBijbQyU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_MoBZrSmJw

Alabo7978:
chameleons...
ofoigbo blew their lies on Bonny, now viewing down the pages, the new lane now is
"Nembe is Igbo"
"Oru isn't ijo"
bunch of 419ers
I won't continue with this again.
they all used discussions to cover their dead end on Bonny, now it's Nembe they want to claim.
now I know you all are drug addicts.

They've been saying Nembe is Igbo for sometime, although sometimes backtracking.They dug out a phony video showing supposed Nembe boys speaking Igbo and destroying a king's palace.I thought you saw all that.

They sit somewhere in the SE and allocate lands to themselves.I showed a video of Kolokuma and Nembe counting,they calmed a bit and then continued their rubbish


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh6j1H1k-5o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FqulHr-Mq0

Alabo7978:

lol...
I froze the most dullest clown in your circus after obliterating him with his bomb and for long no mentions and then you came up with this stupidity to change the course of the debate by saying ijo isn't Oru? JANK23H please come and see these chameleon now changing the course of the argument, now he claims my Nembe is Igbo...my own clan o, chei LMAO.
if this was a law court, the judge would throw you out.
now you are shifting Oru away from ijo for the first time since I in particular have been saying it, it didn't bother you, now you want to change the course of the blunder from your clown ofoigbo.
father lord...
Nembe is my Language you dunce.. Oru is ijo and Oru means a god or a deity.
get out of here you swerving chameleon.

Na today you dey hear am?

Some days Nembe,Okrika and Kalabari are Igbos,and some days they are Ijos.

Watch how they will look for ways to divorce Oru from Ijo.

These guys have issues I swear.I told you they constantly shift their arguments.

You never SheeShomtin.

Ekealterego:


So, in the full article his University and departments were clearly written. Stop yapping lies.

Abeg, start another one .


You see all these years you people have written utter rubbish against us lying and disparaging our names. It will surely be an eye for an eye... Trust Igbos, we have the scholars, money and human resources to get it done.
It's just that we have never looked in your direction.

Is that supposed to be a threat or what?
Ijaws are lacking in human resources,scholars and money?

I always told you that you over rate yourselves.

It was a personal decision,hence only his name and affiliation was written there.He wasn't speaking on behalf of any department,board or research group,if it were so,it would have been stated there too.That's what I meant.

You never read to understand.

Ekealterego:


A. J H Latham is not just "a personal opinion". Maybe you should Google him, his role, his team, the department at Swansea and how influential they are in the field of Economic history. Maybe you should Google the process of "PUBLISHED SCIENTIFIC REVIEW.. and stop yapping like an illiterate.


This whole process is like explaining what offside is to a non-football follower.

That was a personal review that had nothing to do with the University of Swansea.If it was,it would have been stated clearly as for the department, research team or board. What you saw was A.J Latham's affiliation and nothing more.