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Religion / Re: Jesus Never Started A Group by Janosky: 11:00pm On Apr 01
Straybullet:


No to both questions.

His church rather is an organism.


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Oga, please go & study your Bible very well and understand it .


As you can see, your answer is not correct.

Nothing else to add.
Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by Janosky: 10:54pm On Apr 01
SIRTee15:


The problem with Muslims apologetics and also atheist is u guys don't understand Christianity and U don't care to research about it.
All U do is parrot ignorant statements passed around in our mosques or on internet.
Now if I ask U what is the trinity as defined and established by the council of nicea, U will fail woefully. The creed is online for all to see but if I ask U to define the trinity in creed, na something else U go talk.

The trinity in the Nicene creed is exactly as taught by Jesus and exactly what is in the old and new testament. Nothing was removed or added..
Matthew 27:46 on earth Jesus said "my God, my God".
Revelation 3:12, in heaven, Jesus said "my God".
Did Jesus teach Trinity?
Is Jesus Christ a Trinitarian?

SIRTee15:


You are the one with a problem.
U don't believe in arainism because the theology declared jesus is divine, so debating it with U is useless.

If arianism claim that " Jesus is divine ".

Why do Trinitarians label Arianism "heretic" ?
Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by Janosky: 10:43pm On Apr 01
Kobojunkie:
Look, the major problem with all of what is known as Christianity, even from its beginnings, is Jesus Christ who drew the line in the sand, not only when He disavowed religious leaders/authorities in addition to their many doctrines, beginning with those of His time. How can the same Jesus Christ considered to be in support of religion when He declared it instead of the antiChrist — lies?

In addition to that, Jesus Christ declared that He was sent only to the Lost Sheep of Isreal, by His Father, YHWH of Israel. He went ahead to warn His disciples not to give that which belongs to the Lost sheep of Israel to the dogs — Non-Israelites— Matthew 7 vs 6 & Matthew 15 vs 22 - 24. He explained in John 3 vs 14 - 18 & Matthew 11 vs 28 - 30 that the World which He came to was the very same world to which God caused the bronze Snake to be raised in the desert up to — the condemned ones among Israel aka the Lost sheep of Israel(Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 31). How then could the same Jesus Christ, who declared that His Word was everlasting — Unchangeable, the same yesterday, today, and forever — be associated in any way or form with a religion largely founded by non-Israelites? No be Juju be that! undecided

So, OP, your argument when put up against that which is Scripture fails from the get-go. So long as dogs and religion are involved, it has no part with that stated by the God of Israel —YHWH— and neither Jesus Christ Himself! undecided
I have 2 questions for you:
Kobojunkie,
Is your own Jesus Christ the God of Israel?


Is your own Jesus Christ a servant of the God of Israel?
Religion / Re: Jesus Never Started A Group by Janosky: 10:38pm On Apr 01
Straybullet:
The truth of God is here embrace it.

The organisation of people in the name of Jesus Christ is not with his permission

The true church is spiritual and Jesus isnthe one administering it as we speak

He builds his church


But right from the first century AD men organized other men and formed groups

Groups that today have manifested fruit that shows they were not of God

The control of men by any entity other than God is the modus operandi of Babylon


These groups are babylon

Come out of Babylon and seek Jesus

The denominations, and church groups and institutions are Babylon.

God bless you all

Is "his Church" a group?

Is "his church" an Organization?
Religion / Re: Jesus Never Started A Group by Janosky: 10:36pm On Apr 01
Straybullet:
Jesus never started any group
Jesus never started any group
Jesus never started any group

Are the 12 apostles (converted by Jesus) a Group?
Religion / Re: Proof That Jesus Is Not God [bible Verses] by Janosky: 10:32pm On Apr 01
Kenneth4u205:
God is a general name. Which God are you referring to ?. Even Satan is called god of this world. We humans are also god. A man is god to his wife. If man and satan can be call gods ,what stopped the only son of God from being God ?
Only one Supreme being, the Almighty is called God with capital 'G'. (Check Acts 12:22-23 & see for yourself).

Psalm 82:6 did Yahweh call his sons gods?
@ John 10:33-36? Did Jesus Christ agree with Psalm 82:6?

John 10:33, correct rendition is "a god".
(This evidence is everywhere except the translations doctored by Trinitarians).

Trinitarians capitalized it to big letter G'.
Religion / Re: Proof That Jesus Is Not God [bible Verses] by Janosky: 10:25pm On Apr 01
Veecruz:


If you agree that He is God's Son then you should remember that it was also Written that all things in heaven and earth were given to Him!

All things were given to Him by Himself?
Or :
All things were given to him by another being called "my God" @ Matthew 27:46?

Veecruz:


To do what with them?
That is where you see Proverbs 8:22-36 shows you that He is our God! Emphasis is on "Our God"
Did your own Bible said so at Proverbs 8:22-36?
Which verse & chapter said that?
Bring it here let everyone see it.

Veecruz:


Which is why Genesis referred to Him as The Lord God!


Your claim is not found anywhere in your own Bible.

That is the reason you don't reference nor quote any verse.
Because your LYING would be found out.

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Veecruz:


Which is why He also Said "keep my Commandments"!
Because your own Bible (Acts 2:42) called the gospel "the teaching of the apostles" mean they originated the gospel?
Veecruz:


And it is still the same Jesus Christ Who is called The Lord which no other person was called so either before Him or after Him.
@ 1 Corinthians 8:6, did Paul the apostle teach you that?

Veecruz:


So these are the reasons why it is Right to call Him, God for He is "Our God"

And this apart from the fact that A Son of God, is still a God like A king' Son is still A king'!

Matthew 27:46 was your God crying to himself: "my God my God why have you forsaken me?"

How many beings did Jesus reference in Matthew 27:46?

Either you LIED or Jesus did. grin
Religion / Re: Proof That Jesus Is Not God [bible Verses] by Janosky: 10:00pm On Apr 01
MaxInDHouse:


Shame on you as you cut off the Bible verse! cheesy
cheesy grin grin
Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 12:43pm On Mar 25
Michael547:

So are you saying that the king James version is wrong for using Jehovah?
Is there a difference between Jehovah and Yahweh?

No mind that dunce grin grin grin
Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 12:42pm On Mar 25
Emusan:


Provide where the discussion is about Jesus...

The discussion is about the name Jehovah.

Was the name Jehovah an Hebrew or Greek name?

Remember you turn your blind eyes to that question.



Provide the lie I lied against the name Jehovah.

Was the name Jehovah coined by a Catholic Mork or not?

Is the name Jehovah an Hebrew or Greek?

The truth is, the ENGLISH NAME Jesus is a transliteration of the Greek lēsous transliterated to Latin and the New Testament was written in Greek.



You haven't attended to my challenge.

Here it is again Also, about the salvation ONLY in Jesus name, I leave you with this from your own translation:
[b]12 "Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” 13 Now when they saw the outspokenness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated and ordinary men, they were astonished. And they began to realize that they had been with Jesus. 14 As they were looking at the man who had been cured standing with them, they had nothing to say in answer to this. 15 So they commanded them to go outside the Sanʹhe·drin hall, and they began consulting with one another, 16 saying: “What should we do with these men? Because, for a fact, a noteworthy sign has occurred through them, one evident to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and we cannot deny it. 17 So that this does not spread any further among the people, let us threaten them and tell them not to speak to anyone anymore on the basis of this name.” 18 With that they called them and ordered them not to say anything at all or to teach on the basis of the name of Jesus." - Acts 4:12-18

The last part even showed that it was Jesus name the Apostles were proclaiming and that is what the leaders want them to stop.




But you haven't addressed yourself or watchtower addressing themselves as Yahweh's Witness.

Provide your evidence here.

Dunce , go & rest grin grin grin

Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 12:39pm On Mar 25
Steep:

Yes Jesus has many names including mighty God, wonderful etc he also bears the name Jehovah is heaven before his incarnation but after his incarnation he had an additional name which is Jesus that is why when the apostles quote the old testament they also attribute the name Jehovah to Jesus, abi you nor know say LORD for old testament na actually yahweh. Hahaha. Confused lots.

Revelation 3:12, Jesus Christ said
" The one who conquers,I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God"


Confused Steep, what did Jesus teach you at Revelation 3:12?
Did Jesus worship himself in heaven?

Oga,Free yourself from Trinity scam
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Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 12:31pm On Mar 25
Steep:

Your organisation teaches that Jesus has two names Micheal in heaven and Jesus on earth yet you nor fit comment.
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John 3:16 & John 7:16, is Jesus Christ a messenger?
Yes.
Daniel 10:13, is archangel Michael a messenger?
Yes.
Isaiah 6:8, is Jehovah God a messenger?
No .
Oga Steep bonded to Trinity delusion grin grin
Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 12:21pm On Mar 25
Steep:
your watch tower agrees that God takes different roles to fulfill his will yet you nor fit comment.
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Oga Steep are you ready for the Bible truth?
Exodus chapters 14 &15 Yahweh was the Warrior & Saviour of the Israelites. He played that role.
Yahweh was the Yireh (Provider) of manna from heaven. Yahweh played that role.

The million dollar question : Is Yahweh a messenger at anytime?
Isaiah 6:8 & John 3:16.
And I heard the voice of LORD JEHOVAH who said: “Whom shall I send, and who will go?”, and I said, “Behold here I am; send me”

John 3:16 "God (Yahweh) sent His only begotten Son"
Oga Steep version: "God Yahweh sent Yahweh himself"

Final verdict: God Yahweh is NOT a Messenger & can NOT do so.
Oga Steep, you are DECEIVING YOURSELF. grin

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Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 12:01pm On Mar 25
Jokerman:



Still better than reducing the authority and Godship of Jesus Christ to an angel

When your mentors , Martin Luther, Charles Surgeon etc already proven that Jesus Christ is actually archangel Michael ,you dey continue your ignorance and delusion. Screenshots evidences.

Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 11:50am On Mar 25
Steep:


Not true many versions also use LORD,some use yahweh so why follow other translations that use Jehovah? .
wonderful, other versions also said that Jesus is God why don't you follow them?

In the Hebrew manuscript of Psalm 110:1, how many "LORD" is in that verse?
Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 11:41am On Mar 25
Steep:
Not true many versions also use LORD,some use yahweh so why follow other translations that use Jehovah? wonderful, other versions also said that Jesus is God why don't you follow them?

How can you be the God you are worshipping?

Revelation 3:12, in heaven, did Jesus teach you he worships himself?


Those versions do NOT stick to the teachings of Jesus.
Those versions are not truthful .
Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 11:35am On Mar 25
Steep:
That is not the question, why did watch tower use Jehovah instead of yahweh? Failure to answer this question I will never answer any of your questions.

Nobody actually knows the exact pronunciation of YHWH.

If you prefer Yahweh, that's ok.
For us,we prefer Jehovah.

If e dey vex you, REMOVE from your own Bible every first letter J' of all Hebrew names there.

Stop doing hypocrisy on Nairaland
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Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 11:23am On Mar 25
Emusan:


The Hebrew name of Jesus is Yeshua

Do you have any problem with that?

No! But the English got the name Jesus from Latin derived from the Greek name Lesous.

Do you have problem with that?

Was Jehovah an Hebrew or Greek name?

It's comic yet you claimed you used the name Yahweh often.

You are not calling Jesus by his Hebrew name but you are WAILING about what JWs call him.

In the same manner you are WAILING & LYING about the name Jehovah.

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Emusan:


Also, about the salvation ONLY in Jesus name, I leave you with this from your own translation [b]12 "Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” 13 Now when they saw the outspokenness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated and ordinary men, they were astonished. And they began to realize that they had been with Jesus. 14 As they were looking at the man who had been cured standing with them, they had nothing to say in answer to this. 15 So they commanded them to go outside the Sanʹhe·drin hall, and they began consulting with one another, 16 saying: “What should we do with these men? Because, for a fact, a noteworthy sign has occurred through them, one evident to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and we cannot deny it. 17 So that this does not spread any further among the people, let us threaten them and tell them not to speak to anyone anymore on the basis of this name.” 18 With that they called them and ordered them not to say anything at all or to teach on the basis of the name of Jesus." - Acts 4:12-18[/b]

And the challenge again, provide a passage like this about the name Jehovah.
Your brain hurts to understand John 17:3 & Revelation 7:9,Acts 4:12 Salvation/eternal life belongs to Jehovah God and His son sent to redeem us.
Emusan dim wit grin grin


Emusan:



Lastly, since you used more of Yahweh than Jehovah coined by a Catholic Mork then you're a Yahweh Witness and not a Jehovah witness cheesy grin cheesy grin grin grin

Yahweh's witnesses= Jehovah's witnesses.
Go & verify, Emusan dim wit
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Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 11:07am On Mar 25
Emusan:
This thing really pained this worshipper of the 8 men in Warwick so tee he has to divide my post into 8 different unconnected posts with jargons and spammed my mention with it

But I won't allow you to drag me in the mud as pig with you.

Thank you!
Emusan MUMU dim wit has no response to the intensity of the exposure of his lengthy MUMU posts.

Emusan dey save face.
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Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 10:58am On Mar 25
Steep:
The father, Son and Holy Spirit has one name, Yahweh, when the name is used the context would determine who is talking to whom is he talking to.
No Sir.
Evidence against your false claim: Revelation 3:12.
Oga,@ Revelation 3:12,
Christ said:"I will write the name of my God".
Christ said :"I will write my new name."

Oga, did Christ write name of holy spirit on anyone?

Will Christ write name wey no exist?
Holy spirit is NOT Yahweh.
Holy spirit is NOT a person.
Trinity na scam!!!!

Steep:

Same problem, you have with John 1vv1 because bother father and Son were called God but the context will tell you which is which.

The only problem with John 1:1 is the Trinity scam. Anywhere in the holy scriptures, where Theos refers to the Father, Theos is big letter G capitalized.
Whenever Theos refers to another being (not the Father), Theo's is always small letter g. For example Acts 12:22-23. 1 Corinthians 4:4
This is the standard for Bible translation.
More so, when Bible scholars have proven that John 10:33 is small letter g. (Screenshot evidences).
But Trinitarians CHANGED it to big letter G.
Trinitarians Forgery and FRAUD.
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Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 12:47am On Mar 24
Jokerman:
Jesus is God, but not God the father.

He's God the Son

Polytheist worshippers, make una De play . grin
Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 12:45am On Mar 24
Steep:
unique name that was from people you claim worship doghead?

Where in the bible did Jesus personally mention God's unique name?

Mark 12:29-30 Aramaic Bible. This fact exposed by Trinitarians translating the bible. grin grin

Revelation 19:1.
Hallelujah meaning Praise Jehovah God.
Christ abbreviated his Father's name revealed to John.

For instance, Elizabeth is your name & we called you Eliza, have we called your name?
The Bible truth is very bitter.
Oga Steep,Swallow it grin grin
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Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 12:39am On Mar 24
Emusan:

The same Paul recorded that Christians in all places are calling on the NAME JESUS and not Jehovah, that shows that Paul knew what the Holy Spirit says in Joel and to have applied it to Jesus Christ."
Acts 4:12
There is salvation in no one else! God has given no other name under heaven by which we must be saved"


John 17:3. Acts 4:12. Revelation 3:12 .Revelation 19:1 & Revelation 7:9 are in agreement. "Salvation we owe to Yahweh our God & to His Lamb, Jesus Christ "


LYING Trinitarians confused by Trinity make una come & be WAILING
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Emusan:

THIS IS PURE LIES FROM THE PIT OF HELL.

To be saved this is what the scripture says "Only Jesus has the power to save! His name is the only one in all the world that can save anyone." - Acts 4:12


[quote author=Emusan post=129063443]
Only people using by the Devil can comfortable telling lies against God and His Word as you people do.
Can you imagine this nonsense conclusion?
People like Emusan LYING and WAILING, even when Jesus Christ has taught him John 17:3. Eternal life rests with Jehovah God & His son Jesus Christ.
" Salvation we owe to Yahweh our God & to His Lamb Jesus Christ", Revelation 7:9.
Salvation belongs to our God, Revelation 19:1.
Jesus will write the name of his God on your head, Revelation:3:12, the very day Emusan forsake Trinity gibberish. grin grin


Emusan:

1 Corin 1:2: To God's church in Corinth. Christ Jesus chose you to be his very own people, and you worship in his name, as we and all others do who call him Lord. - CEV

to the church of God that is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be saints together with all those in every place who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours: - Mounce


The challenge is to provide a verse like this in the New Testament about Jehovah.
You don't understand 1 Corinthians 1:2.
There is nothing to twist in 1 Corinthians 1:2, LYING miscreant. grin
Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 12:19am On Mar 24
Emusan:


That the NT writers quoted OT and applied them to Jesus shows Jesus is truly The Almighty God.
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Emusan LYING miscreant, did Jesus teach your FALSEHOOD @ John 17:3?

Emusan LYING miscreant, repent oooo!!!

Emusan:

Paul applied that verse to Jesus not Jehovah
.
Oga stop LYING.
Paul never gave worship to Jesus not even when he was practicing Judaism nor after his conversion.
Joel 2:32 & Romans 10:13 Aramaic Bible, your Trinitarian mentors applied both OT & NT to Jehovah God.
2 Corinthians 1:3 & Ephesians 3:1, Paul disgrace Emusan by "Praise be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ " grin
Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 11:49pm On Mar 23
Emusan:


The scriptures says it's ONLY JESUS NAME that Salvation is found Acts 4:12 but the lying liar jws like his father the Devil says No! The scripture is wrong.
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Emusan LYING miscreant, what did Jesus teach you in John 17:3?
You must know the name of Jehovah the God of Jesus Christ, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to get salvation, Revelation 19:1 dey there ooo!
John 17:3 & Revelation 3:12, Nah Jesus Christ talk am to shame LYING miscreants grin


Emusan:

Just show me where any one called on the name Jehovah in the New Testament.

The name recorded that people called on in the New Testament is Jesus' Name.
.

Revelation 19:1,3,4,6.
After these things, I heard what sounded like the loud voice of a large crowd in heaven, saying, "Hallelujah! Salvation, glory, and power belong to our God

The expression "Hallelujah" meaning Praise Jehovah/Yahweh.

@Revelation 3:12, John wrote & Christ said "I will write upon him the name of my God."

Revelation 3:12 Jesus revealed he is NOT the God of anybody in heaven.
Revelation 19:1, everybody owes salvation to the God of Jesus Christ.

Shame on Emusan LYING miscreants grin grin
Halleluyah!!!!
Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 11:18pm On Mar 23
Emusan:


So you always glorified the less accurate JEHOVAH than Yahweh the evidence is even here on this this post.

.

Very foolish post.

Yahweh NOT more accurate than Jehovah.

Oga, kindergarten pupils go dey laugh you if they ever found out you posted this gibberish.


Emusan:


Yet you don't care but you still go ahead to say the Almighty God name is 'JEHOVAH', why not Yahweh if you don't care?

Well, the truth is the moment you people start using the more accurate name Yahweh the more your organisation is crumbling.
.

Emusan LYING miscreant.

You no dey make post like person wey go school
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Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 11:11pm On Mar 23
Emusan:


Did you get it yourself?



You care and dishonest about it.

Have you used YAHWEH in any of your write up before?

Yes, JW's use the name Yahweh too.
I have done so on this platform many times .
I have done so in my previous Convo with Oga Steep times without numer.

Go & verify this fact, Emusan liar. grin
Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 11:05pm On Mar 23
Steep:
yea three actually, the father, the word and the Holy ghost they three are Jehovah.

Man made GIBBERISH very steep. grin

For your mind, @ Matthew 27:46 was Jehovah crying to himself?
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Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 11:02pm On Mar 23
Emusan:


Olodo....

Jehovah is a coined name by a Catholic mock

While Jesus: It is a Hebrew name which has been transliterated into Greek as Iesous (Ἰησοῦς: pronounced "ee-ay-SUS"wink. The English "Jesus" comes from the Latin transliteration of the Greek name into the Latin Iesus.

The fact is, watchtower even knows that Yahweh is more accurate than Jehovah


Emusan LYING dim wit gifted with stupidity.
Oga, wetin be Hebrew name Joseph and Mary dell call their Son?
Is Latin the language of Christ parents?

Is Latin the language of the Jewish family Christ was born into?

Oga ,Your MUMU theory about Yahweh nah comic relief.

Emusan education nah purtohpurtoh.
Money your parents cough out to educate you was wasted. !!!!!!

cheesy cheesy grin cheesy
Religion / Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 10:59pm On Mar 23
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Religion / Re: New Changes For Jehovah's Witness: Women Can Wear Trousers, Men Must Not Wear.. by Janosky: 12:21am On Mar 21
kokolet007:

Now I know this is mental illness! Jw are not good why not let them be , you keep following up all our updates and videos with bitterness , like I said may Jehovah the God of peace heal you .

Jehovah God didn't heal Judas Iscariot or the rebels of the house of Korah & hyemenaeus, let alone heal these miscreants whose hearts are filled with bile & wickedness.

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Religion / Re: New Changes For Jehovah's Witness: Women Can Wear Trousers, Men Must Not Wear.. by Janosky: 12:14am On Mar 21
achorladey:


there 9 GODS of men decides to dignify them by scraping reporting hours. Loooool! They lack dignity regarding that aspect.


Achorladey MUMU upgraded to LYING.
Can your brain decipher the screenshot evidence already posted as response to your fellow LYING miscreant?

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