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Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Now Allow Transfusion Of One’s Own Blood by Janosky: 8:34pm On Mar 22
cyrusmillz:
Honestly ive read all the verses he quoted and all the verses are saying is " Don't eat blood" where did they get their own interpretation from. I'm shocked
Is doing oral action disobeying the instruction "abstain from fornication" ?

You see oral action in Acts 15:28-29?
Christianity EtcRe: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 8:28pm On Mar 22
akpumping7720:
Jesus answered them, ‘I tell you this. The Son can do nothing by himself. He sees what the Father does, and he can do only those same things. What the Father does, the Son also does.

Please what does the above bible verse had to do with what the guy you quoted has to do with his comment? Person said he refused to let others think for him and you quoted a verse that has to do with Jesus' response to the Pharisees about him healing someone on the Sabbath day. And that authority comes from God.
Jesus did what Someone else think for him. John 5:19.
Christianity EtcRe: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 8:25pm On Mar 22
MrEar:
Yes I know why. Because critical thinking is forbidden in JW organization.

That is why JW leaders don't want their members to be educated. So that anything they tell you, you must do.

That is a CULT.
What do you gain by lying ?
Christianity EtcRe: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 8:22pm On Mar 22
tnerro1:
Please don’t equate oral action to a doctor’s decision or advice to give blood to a patient he deems is in need of it. Abeg nah
You don't seem to understand the point I expressed.

Christianity EtcRe: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 8:18pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
So why are u here changing the laws u claim are from God’s scripture??
Yall claim eating blood and transfusing is the same thing years ago to justify refusing all forms of transfusion….

so all of a sudden eating your own blood is now okay??

The man in USA is just playing with your lives in a bid to appear unique….yall are not different from muslims who dint read their quran but are inly told whats in it…
Oga,have you ever done tooth extraction?
When the dentist is extracting your tooth ,nah where the red substance dey go?

Are you eating that red substance flowing out from your wound & entering back to your system?
Oga,pls reason am.

Nobody in USA is doing what you claimed.

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Christianity EtcRe: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 8:08pm On Mar 22
tnerro1:
We have the 10 commandments in the Bible that basically says what is not acceptable. Can you show in the Bible where blood was given to someone medically?

At least, that will be used as a case study for why it was written that the procedure is wrong and should not be done.
To your question , no.
However , the bible has both laws and principles which has been proven by medical science to be very essential to public health.
For example, the bible instruction of washing of hands and quarantine of the sick , was carried out for many centuries before medical science recommended it as standard practice.

Acts 15:28-29, specifically prohibits fornication.
oral action is not in that verse.
Is someone doing oral action disobeying the instruction against fornication ?
Yes.

JW's use this same bible principle (prohibition of oral action/blood ) to abstain from B.T.
Christianity EtcRe: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 7:58pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
This is why you people can't make real disciples like Jehovah's Witnesses does so when you see really dedicated men and women sticking to what they have learned you become so jealous that you can't control yourselves anymore.

There is nothing wrong in asking questions but then if someone doesn't answer all your questions all you need to do is bring back the question you will like the person to address but when you continue insulting someone simply because he chooses to respond to you regarding what he believes then you will loose it.

Go out there and make real dedicated disciples like JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES if you feel you have knowledge o!🙂
Bro, stay calm.
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Christianity EtcRe: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 7:55pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
So how is this screenshot a response to emergency blood need like road accident victims, anaemic patient who cant store their blood and suddenly need blood..?? Im genuinely asking
Oga, Thank you Sir for asking.
I like your curious ,inquisitive mindset.

JW's have 24/7 support group with contingency plans that partner with medical professionals when medical emergencies arise that involve JW's .

My family member who was very anaemic at the time (a couple of years ago ,coupled with a life threateniing health issues) she received prompt assistance from the support group.
The Group was in partnership with medical professionals who performed her medical procedure.
She had a major surgery without blood & she's doing very fine without any post operatic issues till date .
Christianity EtcRe: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 7:50pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
U are angry because the truth is like a hard knock on the head….
I dropped some examples of medical situations needing blood… u ignored them and responded only to pregnant women claiming u already have solution to blood loss during delivery …. Are u not deceiving yourself sir…..??
Whats the solution u have for anaemic disease patients that cant even store their own blood because they dont even have enough to begin with

The millions of children saved by one man’s blood transfusion… what provisions do u have for that??

Like i said sir be deceiving yourself just to juatify your points
JW's have 24/7 support group with contingency plans that partner with medical professionals when medical emergencies arise that involve JW's .

My family member who was very anaemic at the time (a couple of years ago) ,received prompt assistance from the support group.
The Group was in partnership with medical professionals who performed her medical procedure.
She had a major surgery without blood & she's doing very fine without any post operatic issues .
Christianity EtcRe: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 7:35pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
This screenshot is supposed to be what sir??
The screenshot is visible in my previous comment @ 7:17pm.
It address a point you made about emergency situations, which necessitated the highlighted part of the screenshot , to respond to your point.
Christianity EtcRe: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 7:30pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
U ddnt read… u jumped into into a conversation in between….
This discussion isnt about your choice…i mean u can choose it to eat for 100days… but saying the bible said so its a different issue entirely

there are pple who dont use drugs at all, some dont eat meat, and some types of foods…but they are not claiming scripture said so..
.. this discussion is ur skewed interpretation of scriptural context at the expense if pple’s lives

…. Act 15:29’s context is about blood from animals… ur organisation is being extreme in a bid to appear different yet deliberately refusing to see they are playing with pple’s lives….
Are all the prohibitions of Acts 15:29 specific to only animals?
No.
The principle there in, applied to us, humans.
That verse is against fornication.
Is oral action expressly stated there at Acts 15:29?
No.
Is someone doing oral action on another person disobeying the instruction against fornication?
Yes.

Nah the same principle guide JWs to Abstain from B.T .....
Christianity EtcRe: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky:
advanceDNA:
Which measure do u have in place from accident victims who lose too many blood , anaemic patients, and pple going for surgery that involve heavy blood loss….??
Baba be deceiving yourself…. Yall are fornicating and committing adultery but trying to prove what is not by refusing a medical intervention that could save life
Oga, be humble pls.
No dey assume you know everything.
JW's have contingency support group to deal with the emergencies like accidents ,etc for our members when the need arises.
Every JW's know how to go about it instanta..



Abeg you read the screenshot.

Christianity EtcRe: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 7:05pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
I never said its compulsory….
Mothers have complications .. some cannot birth naturally and hence need c-section which may cause need for blood..

Have u heard of accident victims who lose a lot of blood.., hence need transfusion to survive

Have u head if anaemic patients… like patients with sickle cell sometimes need to be trasfused when they have their usual medical crises…. As in …why do u sound so deliberately unintelligent
Oga, pls allow us to use all the medical treatment options which the law & medical professionals have agreed is useful & very safe.

Is there any law that stipulates JW's must chose the medical treatment option you prefer?
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Janosky: 6:59pm On Mar 22
Emusan:
You keep diving into more delusion and stupidity the more!

Where is the atheist materials that I used?

You still want to justify the fraud of your organization about that booklet "Should you believe in Trinity?"

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Oga,Continue wailing .
John 20:17,Deut 10:17 & Psalms 82:6 ,Jehovah is NOT Jesus.
"Jehovah is the God of gods ( his sons- angels +Jesus+man).
John 10:34-36 & John 20:17 Jesus agreed with Deut 10:17 & Psalms 82:6
Christianity EtcRe: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 6:44pm On Mar 22
Leilanjleeane:
Hudeyin, stop fighting the system that moulded you. Change is constant. It shows progression.
Transfusion from another person is what they are against
This is what we have been against as far as I can recall.
Christianity EtcRe: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 6:38pm On Mar 22
2mch:
Nothing ethical about giving gullible people advice that will cost them their lives. It’s also not legal to push such, in any place where there is a government. Which is why JW ask their members to personally reject it. If they tried to reject it on behalf of their members they would have all been rounded up and arrested. It’s not right, it’s not standard, it’s not ethical.
The laws says we can chose the medical treatment option we prefer.
Medical science has advanced & given us different treatment options to pick from.
Oga, why is that so difficult for you to live with?
Must everyone accept your personal preference?
Christianity EtcRe: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 6:31pm On Mar 22
Emusan:
They are not perfect but punishing people for their imperfect doctrines, how does that make sense?

Do you even consider people who have lost their love ones against this imperfect doctrines?

Between, Jehovah, Jesus & holy Spirit supposed to be directing the Governing Body, so how can they make imperfect decisions?
JW's are not the cause of whatever is paining you
I don't know wetin dey pain you.

We owe you nothing.
Christianity EtcRe: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 6:29pm On Mar 22
Emusan:
Lying liar!

The Watchtower 2000 magazine clearly go against STORING BLOOD FOR TRANSFUSION but here you are twisting the same magazine of your own organization.

"Occasionally, a doctor will urge a patient to deposit his own blood weeks before surgery (preoperative autologous blood donation, or PAD) so that if the need arises, he could transfuse the patient with his own stored blood. However, such collecting, storing, and transfusing of blood directly contradicts what is said in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Blood is not to be stored; it is to be poured out—returned to God, as it were. Granted, the Mosaic Law is not in force now. Nevertheless, Jehovah’s Witnesses respect the principles God included in it, and they are determined to ‘abstain from blood.’ Hence, we do not donate blood, nor do we store for transfusion our blood that should be ‘poured out.’ That practice conflicts with God’s law."


You can keep lying to defend Watchtower but the same watchtower will keep exposing your lies.
Every watchtower edition has page, date & month &year of publication.
Nobody knows how Emusan invented his own watchtower quote.

Emusan go & watch the 17 minute jw broadcast Tv update #2.
Pls remember to screenshot the genuine Watchtower quote from the video.
Oga, you are deceiving yourself.

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Christianity EtcRe: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 6:11pm On Mar 22
GanagiBitrus:
If your Son had an Accident
&lost a lot of Blood
&to save his life required you as the father Transfusing your Blood
&there is no other Option to Save his Life
&you Refuse because you Believe you would Offend God by Transfusing your Blood .
&you Allow your Son to Die.

You be capital F-O-O-L 🤡
Oga, there is what is called "informed consent ".
It is your right to ask questions to understand the different options you should pick from.

Ask questions oooo !!
Christianity EtcRe: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 6:08pm On Mar 22
chatinent:
That's why I left.

I like to think. I refuse letting others think for me.
Oga, @ John 5:19,what did Jesus teach you?
Christianity EtcRe: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 6:04pm On Mar 22
MrEar:
Thank you jare.

I know you don't like it when I expose your organisation's dirty linen to the public.

Kpele. Don't cry. Keep waiting for permission from your leaders to live your life.

Hope you don't mind, this thread is now in front page for all to see.

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Have JW's ever claimed perfection ?
No !
But what do you gain from making false claims ?

What we have been doing since the late 1970s well into 2026,you are deceiving yourself it's " new policy shift".
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Christianity EtcRe: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 5:59pm On Mar 22
buygala:
Opium of the masses

Sad stuff

Humans never learn not to blindly follow religion...As these JW people have now revised their rules on Blood donations,, that means that their followers who died while following their old doctrine, wasted themselves for nothing yes?

That was how that Jim Jones guy got more than 900 of his religious followers to commit suicide, all at the same time cry
Nothing was revised, pls get your facts from the right source.
Christianity EtcRe: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 5:56pm On Mar 22
MrEar:
They are not "waking up" to anything.

The leaders of Watchtower are battling numerous lawsuits, the Biggest of them all being cases involving child abuse and they have lost millions of dollars.

They tried their best to hide these cases from their members, even going as far as discouraging them from acquiring a university education. (So they won't know how to develop critical thinking and research skills) But all of their efforts have failed. The Younger generation of witnesses are not as brainwashed as the older generation and many are leaving.

The doctrinal and policy changes currently occurring is nothing but damage control.

Pls stop deceiving yourself .
Oga,your claim is FALSE.
The This is the truth ooo.
In our Watchtower publication before the Internet came into being;
Perhaps at the time you were a toddler.

"As we can see, there is a growing variety of equipment or techniques involving autologous blood. We cannot and should not try to comment on each variation. When faced with a question in this area, each Christian is responsible to obtain details from medical personnel and then make a personal decision."


Una no dey read all our JW's publications , that is reason the News media will report what JW's have been doing since the late 1970s well into 2026 as "new policy shift".
No policy shift at all.
The update #2 broadcast was to serve as reminders to JW's worldwide.
Christianity EtcRe: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 5:35pm On Mar 22
Stephen0mozzy:
Religion is the Opium of the Masses.
It's a wet dream sold to the poor to keep them from unseating the rich.

This review of doctrine came out of "societal pressure" NOT any revelation from God, so, for as long as you keep believing that a human being must be a conduit you use to access God, then please dhie for their doctrines a.k.a opinions.

This is the truth ooo.
In our Watchtower publication before the Internet came into being;
"As we can see, there is a growing variety of equipment or techniques involving autologous blood. We cannot and should not try to comment on each variation. When faced with a question in this area, each Christian is responsible to obtain details from medical personnel and then make a personal decision."


Una no dey read all our JW's publications , that is reason the News media will report what JW's have been doing since the late 1970s well into 2026 as "new policy shift".
No policy shift at all.
The update #2 broadcast was to serve as reminders to JW's worldwide.

Christianity EtcRe: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 5:25pm On Mar 22
MrEar:
The quote below is from Jehovah witnesses watchtower magazine of October 15 2000.
It is from a segment of the magazine called QUESTIONS FROM READERS. Take a look at what the leaders told their members:



I know their members may come to this thread to call the above quote a lie from apostates so let me drop a link to the magazine from their Website here.

Source: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2000767

It is very sad and disheartening that some members in the past, particularly those who anticipated needing surgery, asked their leaders whether they could store their own blood for future use, only for their request to be denied and described as a practice that contradicts God’s laws.
This matter goes as far back as the late 1970s into the 1990s/2000.

Oga, your cherry picking one paragraph from a 3 page article is an attempt to mislead people.



This clearly rules out one common use of autologous blood​—preoperative collection, storage, and later infusion of a patient’s own blood. In such procedure, this is what is done: Prior to elective surgery, some units of a person’s whole blood are banked or the red cells are separated, frozen, and stored. Then if it seems that the patient needs blood during or following surgery, his own stored blood can be returned to him. Current anxieties about blood-borne diseases have made this use of autologous blood popular. Jehovah’s Witnesses, though, DO NOT accept this procedure. We have long appreciated that such stored blood certainly is no longer part of the person. It has been completely removed from him, so it should be disposed of in line with God’s Law: “You should pour it out upon the ground as water.”​—Deuteronomy 12:24.

In a somewhat different process, autologous blood can be diverted from a patient to a hemodialysis device (artificial kidney) or a heart-lung pump. The blood flows out through a tube to the artificial organ that pumps and filters (or oxygenates) it, and then it returns to the patient’s circulatory system. Some Christians have permitted this if the equipment is not primed with stored blood. They have viewed the external tubing as elongating their circulatory system so that blood might pass through an artificial organ. They have felt that the blood in this closed circuit was still part of them and did not need to be ‘poured out.’a

What, though, if the flow of such autologous blood stopped briefly, such as if a heart-lung machine is shut down while the surgeon checks the integrity of coronary-bypass grafts?

Actually, the Biblical emphasis is not on the issue of continuous flow. Even aside from surgery, a person’s heart might stop briefly and then resume.b His circulatory system would not have to be emptied and his blood disposed of just because blood flow had stopped during the cardiac arrest. Hence, a Christian having to decide whether to permit his blood to be diverted through some external device ought to focus, not primarily on whether a brief interruption in flow might occur, but on whether he conscientiously felt that the diverted blood would still be part of his circulatory system.​—Galatians 6:5.

[b]What about induced hemodilution? Some surgeons believe that it is advantageous for a patient’s blood to be diluted during surgery. Thus, at the start of an operation, they direct some blood to storage bags outside a patient’s body and replace such with nonblood fluids; later, the blood is allowed to flow from the bags back to the patient. Since Christians do not let their blood be stored, some physicians have adapted this procedure, arranging the equipment in a circuit that is constantly linked to the patient’s circulatory system. Some Christians have accepted this, others have refused. Again, each individual must decide whether he would consider the blood diverted in such a hemodilution circuit to be similar to that flowing through a heart/​lung machine, or he would think of it as blood that left him and therefore should be disposed of.

"A final example of autologous blood use involves recovering and reusing blood during surgery. Equipment is used to aspirate blood from the wound, pump it out through a filter (to remove clots or debris) or a centrifuge (to eliminate fluids), and then direct it back into the patient. Many Christians have been very concerned whether in such salvage there might be any brief interruption of blood flow. Yet, as mentioned, a more Biblical concern is whether the blood escaping into a surgical wound is still part of the person. Does the fact that the blood has flowed from his circulatory system into the wound mean that it should be ‘poured out,’ like the blood mentioned at Leviticus 17:13? If an individual believes so, he would probably refuse to permit such blood salvage. Yet, another Christian (who also would not let blood flow from him, be stored for some time, and later be put back into him) might conclude that a circuit with recovery from a surgical site and ongoing reinfusion would not violate his trained conscience.

As we can see, there is a growing variety of equipment or techniques involving autologous blood. We cannot and should not try to comment on each variation. When faced with a question in this area, each Christian is responsible to obtain details from medical personnel and then make a personal decision."

JW's as at then said it's a "PERSONAL DECISION".

Oga,is both of these 2 last paragraphs in your own post?
Why did you omit them?

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Christianity EtcRe: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky:
MrEar:
Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine



Source
For obvious reasons that OP conveniently forgot to inform you that this has been the stand of JW's since the late 1970's/1980s when he was a toddler.
On this matter, there is no so called "policy shift" or "doctrinal adjustments" as reported in the mainstream media outlets.

Anything JW's dey pain that guy man.

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Christianity EtcRe: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 5:09pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us. But they went out so that it might be shown that not all are of our sort. 1John 2:19

Faith is not a possession of all kinds of people {2Thessalonians 3:2} so those who are not favorably disposed will take their leave! John 6:66🙂
Bashing na their way because e pain dem.
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Christianity EtcRe: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 12:43pm On Mar 22
Emusan:
You know this but yet you're always rush to defend rejection of BLOOD TRANSFUSION.

So, it's being known for years that Jws can actually store their own blood and take it back.

So, why do you always rush to preach how Blood Transfusion is bad and had caused many death?

Why do you always rush to talk about how Jws shape the medical system with Bloodless treatment because of their rejection of Blood Transfusion?

You see how you people are evil and hiding under God's name to protect the evil.

So, now do you agree Blood Transfusion is bad that your god of men say you can store you own blood and take it back?
Oga, pls go back to school & acquire comprehension skills.
You need am.

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Christianity EtcRe: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 12:40pm On Mar 22
Kenobsky:
Since I received blood transfusion I started behaving not like my former self,[/b]I cont come against it,but it has its spiritual side.
JW are hypocrites I can never trust them.
Anything else with this people is devilish.
To fetch your blood and bring it back is still transfusion.
What a cult?
[b]Oga, enjoy your decision & leave JW's alone.
No be we say make you no behave like your former self.
Christianity EtcRe: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 12:31pm On Mar 22
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Emusan:
I remember how you were jumping up and down about this story justifying watchtower nonsense about Blood Transfusion but look at how the same watchtower put you to shame today.

I have the 1980's Watchtower articles pointing out the info in the update #2 Tv broadcast.
Oga,wetin concern you with JW's matter?

Emusan, the Engineer, are you trained to dictate to a renowned medical Consultant how to do his job?


Oga, continue wailing
Christianity EtcRe: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 12:28pm On Mar 22
Ucheamani:
The position of JW as far back as 26years ago was that it's up to individuals to decide how to use their blood in medical procedures.
https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=E&prefer=lang&docid=2000767
I have that 1980's watchtower publication in my library.
You know these non JW's don't read our publications,especially those who don't like us..
They heard the info on TV & decided to report "new adjustments" wey JWs done dey do since before the 1980s.

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Christianity EtcRe: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 12:21pm On Mar 22
2mch:
An example of a JW citing JW doctrine as why she refused blood eventually leading to her death. You can edit your website and even pay to edit all the content on the internet but a lot of people have screenshot and pamphlet.
Oga stop deceiving yourself.
Screenshot evidence

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