Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God? by Janosky: 9:50pm On Feb 21 |
MetalJigsaw: I am not programmed to believe anything. I'm not an illiterate or a child.
The father and the son in the Godhead are eternal beings, neither are they human.
Jesus is still a man in heaven that's why the father is still God over him. Okay
. Metaljigsaw: " Jesus is still man in heaven"
"The Father (God) & the Son (Jesus) ,neither are human". False doctrines always goes with confusion . No be lie.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God? by Janosky: 9:39pm On Feb 21 |
MetalJigsaw: Brother, we need to try and be as honest as we can about the Holy Bible The father also worship Jesus likewise before he took on flesh. Jesus is still a man in heaven that's why the father is still God over him. Okay Are you kidding me? Oga, which verse did you see it in your Bible ? Pls ,can you post the quote as it is written in your Bible ? Bring it on let's see the verse & chapter. |
Christianity Etc › Re: When Should Christians Speak In Tongues? by Janosky: 4:02am On Feb 21*. Modified: 4:20am On Feb 21 |
RightChannel: So according to your elders in JWs, church can NEVER means Building?
Is this how they gather you inside hall and get you brainwashed? Oga,why are you so disrespectful? Let's see your own screenshot definition of church hall proven your claim is FALSE. Church hall :" a large room belonging to a (building according to Right channel moniker ,but his Bible says people is church),for meetings.." Oga Right channel says church hall belongs to a building not to a people meeting there. Very big error. RightChannel: You removed synagogue and inserted HALL just to suit your ignorance, is that version according to your JWs founder? Do you call your own church hall a synagogue?
You are so bold to deny Acts 19:8-9 & still be forming christian.
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Christianity Etc › Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by Janosky: 3:47am On Feb 21 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God? by Janosky: 9:46pm On Feb 20 |
MaxInDHouse: You only knew what you were programmed to believe prove my wrong by quoting the Bible to support what you believe.
God gave Jesus and Jesus passed it to John through an angel. Revelation 1:1-2 This is the clearest verse where Jesus expressed the hierarchy in heaven to debunk the Trinity doctrine of men. The God in heaven is worshipped by Jesus & other beings , proving they are all messengers of Yahweh the One true God. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God? by Janosky: 9:40pm On Feb 20 |
MetalJigsaw: Long time bro.. 🤝
By the way, seems your assuming that Jesus being the firstborn of all creation means he is created? Correct?🤣 Yeah.. Longtime no see. Glad to see you're here. Oga,Why did you dodge this? 👇 Janosky: The onus is on you to quote Colossians 1:15 as it is written in your own Bible.
Then, go ahead to point out "all the lie bro" which is not stated in that verse 15.
That is the candid manner to prove your point. More so, persons following as guests can learn something.
Thanks.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: When Should Christians Speak In Tongues? by Janosky: 6:22pm On Feb 20 |
RightChannel: Where is your HALL written in Bible?
Does the word Church ONLY means GATHERING?
No long story, just type YES or NO! Yes, Gathering of people, Congregation, Assembly, Church. According to your Bible. I have referenced Biblehub explanation on church as people,but you seem to prefer your personal opinions rather than the holy scriptures.
Acts 19:8-9 Paul was teaching in a hall. HALL is written in my Bible as a place,venue ,building. Acts 19:8-9 evidence. Synagogue is also a hall,no issues.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God? by Janosky: 6:14pm On Feb 20 |
MetalJigsaw: Lol... u are funny. who dey tell una all did lie bro🤣 The onus is on you to quote Colossians 1:15 as it is written in your own Bible.
Then, go ahead to point out "all the lie bro" which is not stated in that verse 15.
That is the candid manner to prove your point. More so, persons following as guests can learn something.
Thanks.  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor Arrested By Police Over ‘Misconduct In Public Office’ by Janosky: 4:08pm On Feb 19 |
hotseat: If this "Big Man" had been a Nigerian, religious bigots, ethnic jingoists and political jobbers would have cried "blue murder" and even decide to accompany him to the police station or wherever he's being taken to.
Even the King of England wasn't informed before the arrest.
He simply told the British public that the law must take its course.
If it were to be here, in Nigeria, the King himself self would have frowned at the audacity of the police to have his brother arrested and even claim political witch-hunt.
He (the King) would have assembled the SANs of SANs in Nigeria to rescue his brother from the claws of those jealous, envious and overzealous policemen.
Nigerians need a critical introspection!
@hotseat You know the Nigerian mindset very well. Every attempt to sweep iniquity under the carpet. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor Arrested By Police Over ‘Misconduct In Public Office’ by Janosky: 3:56pm On Feb 19 |
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Sports › Re: Chelle Demands $130,000 Per Month, Lists 19 Conditions To Continue With Nigeria by Janosky: 3:48pm On Feb 19 |
robosky02: PROPOSED TERMS AND FIGURES FOR ERIC SEKOU CHELLE
1. Private car (SUV) with a chauffeur and security. 2. House in a well secured environment with 24hrs uninterrupted power supply (electricity). 3. Furnished office with projector for analysis. 4. Internet provision. 5. Flight tickets for wife and two children (Eric and wife Business class) children economy. 6. GPS provision. 7. Supply of proper equipment in accordance to the coach’s demand. 8. Based on opponents, the coach has the right of choice regarding int’l friendly matches. 9. Camping programs. 10. The coach will initiate programs for youth development. 11. Provision for the coach to travel, watch, monitor and engage players of the national teams abroad. 12. Provision for the coach to travel to watch the local league to identify potential players that will be integrated in to senior national team, A U23, U20 and U17. 13. No Interference in team selection and players call up. 14. The NFF has to issue a working contract for my staffs. 15. Salary needs to be paid on or before 30th of every month. 16. Bonus and allowance as per federation structure. 17. Request to include my PA in the bonus and allowance structure. 18. Proposed salary of $130,000.00 (One hundred and thirty thousand dollars) monthly. The amount included all my technical staffs and PA. 19. Monthly meeting with all the national team coaches. His demands subject to negotiation,esp 2,5,11,14,17,18.
The man no go stay as e be say NFA no dey serious except the matter concern their own pocket.
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Christianity Etc › Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by Janosky: 3:05pm On Feb 19 |
BlackViper: Guess who else is called "Amen" in the Bible?
Isaiah 65:16 tells us the answer:
“…shall bless himself in the God of Amen…”
Biblically speaking, God is the "Amen" For instance ,: (1) "shall bless himself in the God of Blackviper" meaning that Blackviper is the God? No. 2) "Shall bless himself in the God of Abraham" meaning that Abraham is the God? No. Therefore,God is NOT the Amen. Oga,your claim is very faulty & unscriptural..BlackViper: Sorry oga, but Revelation 3:14 doesn't say what you think it does.
Revelation 3:14 says:"....these things saith the Amen.."
In other words, the name of the Speaker in Revelation 3:14 is, "The Amen"
So Revelation 3:14 is saying that Jesus is the One who begins creation, not that He was created in the beginning. @ Revelation 1:1, God gave Jesus the Revelation to give John.. Therefore , Jesus is a Messenger ,NOT God the Author of the message. The same point in Revelation 3:12. Revelation 3:14, Jesus is the Amen/The beginning of the creation by God."
Point of emphasis in verse 14: beginning of the Creation by God,not creation by Jesus. Therefore , Revelation 3:12-14 ,Jesus proven that he is a worshipper & a creature. Verse 21,in the Spirit realm Jesus sits on the throne of his Father (" Father" meaning SENIOR) alongside other obedient worshippers (@Rev 3:12,21) in heaven. Jesus said so . |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by Janosky: 3:04pm On Feb 19 |
BlackViper: Guess who else is called "Amen" in the Bible?
Isaiah 65:16 tells us the answer:
“…shall bless himself in the God of Amen…”
Biblically speaking, God is the "Amen" For instance ,: (1) "shall bless himself in the God of Blackviper" meaning that Blackviper is the God?
2) "Shall bless himself in the God of Abraham" meaning that Abraham is the God? No. Therefore,God is NOT the Amen. Oga,your claim is very faulty & unscriptural..BlackViper: Sorry oga, but Revelation 3:14 doesn't say what you think it does.
Revelation 3:14 says:"....these things saith the Amen.."
In other words, the name of the Speaker in Revelation 3:14 is, "The Amen"
So Revelation 3:14 is saying that Jesus is the One who begins creation, not that He was created in the beginning. @ Revelation 1:1, God gave Jesus the Revelation to give John.. Therefore , Jesus is a Messenger ,NOT God the Author of the message. The same point in Revelation 3:12. Revelation 3:14, Jesus is the Amen/The beginning of the creation by God."
Point of emphasis in verse 14: beginning of the Creation by God,not creation by Jesus. Therefore , Revelation 3:12-14 ,Jesus proven that he is a worshipper & a creature. Verse 21,in the Spirit realm Jesus sits on the throne of his Father (meaning SENIOR) alongside other obedient worshippers (@Rev 3:12,21)3 in heaven. Jesus said so . |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by Janosky: 2:40pm On Feb 19 |
MaxInDHouse: Can you quote a Bible verse where the above is explicitly stated or paraphrased?🤔 No mind that guy deceiving himself.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by Janosky: 2:20pm On Feb 19 |
BlackViper: Charles Taze Russell warned his followers that they would not be able to understand the Bible unless they read it under the guidance of his explanatory books.
He had about 6 volumes of these books and he titled them: "Studies in the Scripture"
He said anyone who read his explanatory books would be in the light at the end of 2 years, even if they had not read a single page of the Bible, but those who read the Bible without his explanatory books would go into darkness within 2 years.
He actually said this in The Watch Tower Magazine (September 15, 1910).
Here is the full quote:
Furthermore, not only do we find that people cannot see the Divine Plan in studying the Bible by itself, but we see also that if anyone lays the Studies in the Scriptures aside, even after he has used them, after he has become familiar with them, after he has read them for ten years — if he then lays them aside and ignores them and goes to the Bible alone… within two years he goes into darkness. On the other hand, if he had merely read the Studies in the Scriptures with their references, and had not read a page of the Bible as such, he would be in the light at the end of the two years.”
— The Watch Tower, Sept. 15, 1910, p. 298
Oga, it is a virtue to speak the truth and avoid quoting a speaker put of context. This is what Mr Russel actually said; the Divine Plan in studying the Bible by itself, but we see, also, that if anyone lays the SCRIPTURE STUDIES aside, even after he has used them, after he has become familiar with them, after he has read them for ten years —if he then lays them aside and ignores them and goes to the Bible alone, though he has understood his Bible for ten years, our experience shows that within two years he goes into darkness. On the other hand, if he had merely read the SCRIPTURE STUDIES with their references, and had not read a page of the Bible, as such, he would be in the light at the end of the two years, because he would have the light of the Scriptures. Our thought, therefore, is that these SCRIPTURE STUDIES are a great assistance... In other words, if you anyone who uses the study guide &quits, within two years he goes into darkness (about the scriptures). On the other hand if the study guide is thoroughly studied, the individual would be "in the light of the scriptures". That is the point Mr Russel made.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by Janosky: 11:29pm On Feb 18 |
paxonel: Damage control, The whole world already know that you are not Christians 
Go back to your religion watchtower and stop mentioning Jesus  Read any copy of the watchtower you can find & stop deceiving yourself. This is the soution to help you set free from lying |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by Janosky: 10:30pm On Feb 18 |
BlackViper: Why did Charles Taze Russell say that reading the Bible causes spiritual blindness? Oga, present the proof. Where, when & what year was Mr Russel alleged to have said that? |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by Janosky: 10:27pm On Feb 18 |
BlackViper: I didn't deny that guidance is needed to understand the Bible. In fact Acts 8:30 that you quoted shows that it was the Holy Spirit that guided Philip to speak to the Ethiopian eunuch.
All I want to know is where in the Bible we are told that in the end times, a man called Charles Taze russell will be sent to guide us into Biblical truth, because the Bible says something VERY different:
John 16:13 “When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth…”
The Bible tells us that it is the Holy Spirit who interprets Biblical truth to us.
So do JWs believe that Charles Taze Russell is the Holy Spirit? Go and check John 16:13 Greek bill mounce interlinear & stop deceiving yourself. |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by Janosky: 10:25pm On Feb 18 |
BlackViper: Jesus NEVER said He was not good. He merely ASKED why the term was being applied to Himself. He was testing the man who called Him good.
Jesus didn't have a problem with being called "good". He referred to Himself as the Good Shepherd:
John 10:11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep"
Jesus is God in human form. He is Eternal and has no beginning or end.
Jesus told you he is a worshipper in heaven & he "is beginning of the creation by God". Words Jesus spoke. Revelation 3:12,14. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witnesses Do Not Celebrate Christmas Because They Are Not Christians by Janosky: 12:32pm On Feb 17 |
tctrills: So the bible showed neither Jesus Christ nor Paul loving a wife, yet we follow the principle they taught. Now, Paul taught a principle, and you are asking for evidence of him practicing it. Make that make sense, sir. Tctrills, subtly changing the narrative. Oga,you are not candid ...  Paul & Jesus specifically spoke about marriage & supported it. Where did Paul & Jesus teach you to do annual birthdays? tctrills: Job 38.4,7 talks about the foundation of the earth, not the creation of man. 2 diffrent events. Never was it written that angels rejoiced at the creation of man. Maybe they di,d but it is not recorded in the Christian Bible. Stop spreading lies.
Oga,stop deceiving yourself. Tctrill, did creation stop with the founding of the earth? Proverbs 8:30-31, Jesus Christ (the Wisdom/Craftsman) who saw the founding of the earth (as other angels did) "rejoiced over the habitable earth & was fond of the sons of mankind."
You rejoiced on the setting up of the foundation but won't rejoice that the building is habitable. Oga, reason with your brain jare.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witnesses Do Not Celebrate Christmas Because They Are Not Christians by Janosky: 11:54am On Feb 17*. Modified: 12:13pm On Feb 17 |
tctrills: Oga lets see how foolish your argument is. Paul taught Men to love their wives, but it is not recorded that Paul had or loved his wife. Just because something is not recorded doesn't mean that the principle taught becomes false. Tctrills,honesty is never your strong point ever. Is Matt 19:3-9 in your Bible? Yes. Paul learnt Jesus principle of loving your wife in that verse,so you won't seek flimsy excuse to divorce her . tctrills: Romans 14:5 is perhaps the simplest verse in the bible. According to the bible, who are you to judge one for choosing to celebrate or esteem Christmas Day? I advise you to stick to the bible even if it offends the big white bosses of your organization. Trust me, they know nothing. You would be blessed following the teachings of Paul and not your corrupt white boss. For me, it's so easy, I just stick to the revealed word. I don't depend on criminals to worship. Perhaps,Tctrills have "corrupt white boss ,criminals to worship" ,very disparaging comments nah your way Romans 14;5 goes pari pasu with 1 Cor 11:1. Paul would esteem the anniversary of a matrimony & grace the occasion. Paul/Jesus esteemed marriage.
Did Jesus /Paul esteem annual birthday celebration or grace such occasion? No. Both of them shunned birthday celebrations. This truth is a bitter pill to swallow.tctrills: It's good you agree that Angels celebrated the birth of Christ, so what do you have against humans doing the same?
Lastly, nowhere in the christian bible is it recorded that Angels celebrated the creation of Adam. I guess the JW have strange scriptures not found in the bible. For now, let's stick to the bible. Did Angels fix any date every year for annual birthday celebration? No. Even Jesus did not do that. Whose example are you copying by doing what Jesus /Paul did not do? Job 38:4,7 "Where were you when I founded the earth? When.... All the sons of God began shouting in applause?" Oga, did the angels celebrate God's creation of man/the earth ? Oga,come & deceive yourself. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witnesses Do Not Celebrate Christmas Because They Are Not Christians by Janosky: 11:30am On Feb 17 |
paxonel: Jw isn't Christianity but another religion entirely, forget the deception that they are carrying bible.
People that view Jesus Christ as a fellow worshipper of God just like Islam and Budhaism what do you expect from them?
Their religion name is watchtower! They worship their gathering and house to house preaching, not God Oga, John 20:17,Rev 3:12 & Deut 10:17 is in your own Bible. Accept the truth Jesus taught about himself OR Be deceiving yourself. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witnesses Do Not Celebrate Christmas Because They Are Not Christians by Janosky: 11:27am On Feb 17 |
MaxInDHouse: This is how Jesus presented himself to all his friends and followers:
“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17
So Jesus is our fellow worshiper not our God!🙂 John 20:17 & Deuteronomy 10:17 no dey paxonel Bible  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Dark Foundations Of Pentecostalism/charismatics/word Of Faith by Janosky: 11:17am On Feb 17 |
MrEar: You don't get it Max,  Let me tell you something, 
I recall that in the past Jehovah witnesses use to make fun of televangelists.
I was surprised when one of your members invited me to his house to watch a video, I thought it was a downloaded video but Lo! and Behold! it was a tv channel. A JW TV CHANNEL. 
You see your organisation is now slowly becoming like other churchians as you like to call us. How?
1. Now you people are televangelists  2. You people can keep beards  3. Sisters can now wear trousers  4. No more shunning of disfellowshipped members  5. You can report or arrest a fellow witness for commiting a crime 
God is really wonderful. The light is getting brighter!
Very soon, they will allow all of you to accept/donate blood and save the life of your loved ones 
Am sure Janosky will love that.  "The photodrama of creation" the first motion picture in the world, was made by JW's before Hollywood copied the format. JW's have long been in the broadcast media before the expansion of the media industry.
Abeg go and unlearn & relearn.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Interpret This Powerful Dream About Pastor E.A. Adeboye? by Janosky: 11:01am On Feb 17 |
MrEar: Did they not drop some of your elders for sending their kids to university? 
DOnt lie OOO!!  MrEar :"Elders sending their kids to the university. MrEar:" they banned you people from going to the university. Oga, if your claim was true, would any JWs be in any university? Pls, stop making false claims |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Interpret This Powerful Dream About Pastor E.A. Adeboye? by Janosky: 10:39pm On Feb 16 |
MrEar: Ask your leaders. They seem to know the yard stick that was why they banned you people from going to university.  Your false claim. No evidence.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Interpret This Powerful Dream About Pastor E.A. Adeboye? by Janosky: 10:31pm On Feb 16 |
MrEar: Hmm!
See big LIE!  What's your yardstick to grade who's educated? Any parameter you deploy,JW's have met that standard. No capping. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Interpret This Powerful Dream About Pastor E.A. Adeboye? by Janosky: 10:23pm On Feb 16 |
MrEar: Thank God O! 
Your leaders did not want you to be educated.  Not true. JW's are well educated. Any certification you acquired, is proof of your education.
JW's have them plenty plenty. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witnesses Do Not Celebrate Christmas Because They Are Not Christians by Janosky: 10:03pm On Feb 16 |
tctrills: You read that Paul wrote it's a personal choice so even if he did, there was no need to announce it.
Please explain how 1 Corinthians 11.1 has to do with Christmas. . Did Jesus celebrate his birthday every year? No, Jesus shunned birthday celebrations. Did Paul copy Jesus example shunning birthday celebration? Yes, 1 Corinthians 11:1 is the solid proof. Your interpretation of Romans 14:5 is against evidence of the holy scriptures & secular history.
Confirm this fact from secular history ,pls. Early Christians no do am.  tctrills: Again, we don't know if Paul celebrated the birth of Christ but we know for certain that the angels in heaven celebrated it. Angels cook rice & fry chicken share am give you ?
Angels rejoiced at the birth of Christ just as they rejoiced at the creation of Adam, Luke chapter 2 & Job 38:4-7. Oga,did Angels celebrate the creation of Adam?
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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Interpret This Powerful Dream About Pastor E.A. Adeboye? by Janosky: 9:49pm On Feb 16 |
MrEar: Stop pretending. 
Your members are happy they can now keep beards, Something God gave them naturally 
And your sisters are happy they can now wear trousers. 
Even though deep down they wanted to, they couldn't do that in the past because some group of white men in America told them not to. 
Same group of white men that told you not to get a good university education but they make use of the best educated lawyers to protect child abusers. 
Hope you sent my greetings to MaxInDHouse.  I don't keep beard ,my fellow JW's are not bothered. Oga, why does that bother you?
I'm very well educated & would acquire more professional qualifications like my fellow JW's. Oga, why the matter dey pain you?
But you can't stop paying your January pay check to a god of men on the pulpit,year after year
Nah Jesus Christ send you that instruction?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Dark Foundations Of Pentecostalism/charismatics/word Of Faith by Janosky: 9:35pm On Feb 16 |
MrEar: Yes, Like protecting protecting children not harming them.  Check the screenshot & get the facts right. The popular Press did not tell you the truth about 1006 cases they claimed. 902 of the cases did not involve any JW's official. 383 of the cases had been reported to the Authorities when the crimes happened & resulted in 161 convictions by the law courts. Pls read for more details ....
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Dark Foundations Of Pentecostalism/charismatics/word Of Faith by Janosky: 9:22pm On Feb 16 |
MaxInDHouse: He is only interested in whatever BBC will say against the religion that makes him feel he is not a true believer!😀 He screenshoted JW's policy document to prevent such crimes. Can he present any working policy document from his own church or group? He no get ,E no dey !!!  |