Veecruz:


In the end, you said Absolutely No Thing.

@John 17:7
Jesus you call your Lord God said about his God in heaven:
"Now they know that everything I have is a gift from you,"

Shame on you LYING miscreant

Veecruz:


No you are not! You are a devil, attached to the devil's church called Jw.

Veecruz:


What else are "all things in heaven and in earth were given Him" mean?

You are just here to play out your jw madness else you would have seen I said if you Agree that He is God's Son!

Emusan:


Honestly! He needs to check on himself.

From "All i need is are contributions from Bible scholars..." to Bible scholars now equal the lost sheep of the household of Isreal.

Reason why he always attached 'intelligent Officer' to himself because he knows he is very far from anything intelligence.

achorladey:


In essence he is not ready to exchange knowledge, he is here to market his religious organization as the only one doing what Jesus taught

He had to create this thread as a result of his blunder on another thread. This thread is set up as a cover up of what happened there. He himself stated on that thread



https://www.nairaland.com/8032662/thread-denominations-not-church/13#129188750

Nah which one you dey market?
Nah Max hold you down from marketing your religion?achorladey Anywhere belle face , nah JW's matter be him wahala , breakfast, lunch and dinner

Emusan:


Absolutely!

For him to use the phrase "Bible Scholars" shows he agreed that many actually have in dept of Bible understanding here compare to the lie he was told in the hall.

He knows he has already roped himself when he said he is expecting Bible scholars to comment.

Yet he failed to mentioned their moniker to call their attention on his own thread.

The next question to be asked of him will be, are these Bible scholars know the truth?

Reason why he locked up at the moment of pointing out that part of his post but the damage has been done already

MaxInDHouse:




The highlighted is what we will never ever agree with anyone.
If you're not worshiping the same way we do you're not a worshiper of our own God! 1Corinthians 8:5

bobestman:
That is their problem. Every religion has their flaws. Trying to Elevate yourself as the best is not only wrong but pride. It is also against the messiah's teachings. If you are good, let ppl define you. You don't do that yourself. The only truth he knows is what they teach them

bobestman:
And do you know that your Jehovah is one of the sons of the living God? I know a lot about the gods that control your religions and their ancient names that is why I laugh at your ignorances

Are a Trinitarian or new age movement devotee?

Is Psalm 83:18 KJV in your shelf?
Let's check something

oteneaaron:


You're talking about Archoladey at 3:42 AM??

He must be giving you sleepless nights.

;

How many thread did you open in Religion section for WAILING about JW's?
Oteneaaron count it & tell this forum.

JW's have caused you sleepless nights dwelling in your head rent free 24/7.


Oteneaaron done remove him pishure .
"international journalist" dey fear exposure?

Straybullet:


Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. Hope you know?

Now which language is ekklesia? Is it English?

Answer let me know your level in these things

Straybullet:


No they're not, in the context of this discussion

John 9:4 Jesus Christ referenced himself & the disciples as "WE".
"WE" can not be a one man show.
The term "WE" is an assembly, Congregation, Church in John 9:4 meeting together, working together in harmony to fulfill the same goal, objectives etc.
Oga, Jesus Christ & the disciples were the first Ecclesia, which gave birth to other Eccklesias.

For this reason, Paul the apostle could address the Hebrew Eccklesia as having "leaders" that the brethren should submit themselves to guidance and direction.
Hebrews 13:7,17.

In many Bibles, in Acts chapter 15, the heading says:
" The Council in Jerusalem".
(Is FIFA Council an Organization? Oga, learn something.)
The Ecclesia (Church) founded by Christ Jesus is an Organization, administered by leaders serving the brethren (especially in Acts chapter 2:41-48. Hebrews 13:7,17. E get why )

Shalom.

Straybullet:


No to both questions.

His church rather is an organism.

SIRTee15:


The problem with Muslims apologetics and also atheist is u guys don't understand Christianity and U don't care to research about it.
All U do is parrot ignorant statements passed around in our mosques or on internet.
Now if I ask U what is the trinity as defined and established by the council of nicea, U will fail woefully. The creed is online for all to see but if I ask U to define the trinity in creed, na something else U go talk.

The trinity in the Nicene creed is exactly as taught by Jesus and exactly what is in the old and new testament. Nothing was removed or added..

SIRTee15:


You are the one with a problem.
U don't believe in arainism because the theology declared jesus is divine, so debating it with U is useless.

Kobojunkie:
Look, the major problem with all of what is known as Christianity, even from its beginnings, is Jesus Christ who drew the line in the sand, not only when He disavowed religious leaders/authorities in addition to their many doctrines, beginning with those of His time. How can the same Jesus Christ considered to be in support of religion when He declared it instead of the antiChrist — lies?

In addition to that, Jesus Christ declared that He was sent only to the Lost Sheep of Isreal, by His Father, YHWH of Israel. He went ahead to warn His disciples not to give that which belongs to the Lost sheep of Israel to the dogs — Non-Israelites— Matthew 7 vs 6 & Matthew 15 vs 22 - 24. He explained in John 3 vs 14 - 18 & Matthew 11 vs 28 - 30 that the World which He came to was the very same world to which God caused the bronze Snake to be raised in the desert up to — the condemned ones among Israel aka the Lost sheep of Israel(Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 31). How then could the same Jesus Christ, who declared that His Word was everlasting — Unchangeable, the same yesterday, today, and forever — be associated in any way or form with a religion largely founded by non-Israelites? No be Juju be that!

So, OP, your argument when put up against that which is Scripture fails from the get-go. So long as dogs and religion are involved, it has no part with that stated by the God of Israel —YHWH— and neither Jesus Christ Himself!

Straybullet:
The truth of God is here embrace it.

The organisation of people in the name of Jesus Christ is not with his permission

The true church is spiritual and Jesus isnthe one administering it as we speak

He builds his church

But right from the first century AD men organized other men and formed groups

Groups that today have manifested fruit that shows they were not of God

The control of men by any entity other than God is the modus operandi of Babylon


These groups are babylon

Come out of Babylon and seek Jesus

The denominations, and church groups and institutions are Babylon.

God bless you all

Straybullet:
Jesus never started any group
Jesus never started any group
Jesus never started any group

Kenneth4u205:
God is a general name. Which God are you referring to ?. Even Satan is called god of this world. We humans are also god. A man is god to his wife. If man and satan can be call gods ,what stopped the only son of God from being God ?

Veecruz:


If you agree that He is God's Son then you should remember that it was also Written that all things in heaven and earth were given to Him!

Veecruz:


To do what with them?
That is where you see Proverbs 8:22-36 shows you that He is our God! Emphasis is on "Our God"

Veecruz:


Which is why Genesis referred to Him as The Lord God!

Veecruz:


Which is why He also Said "keep my Commandments"!

Veecruz:


And it is still the same Jesus Christ Who is called The Lord which no other person was called so either before Him or after Him.

Veecruz:


So these are the reasons why it is Right to call Him, God for He is "Our God"

And this apart from the fact that A Son of God, is still a God like A king' Son is still A king'!

Matthew 27:46 was your God crying to himself: "my God my God why have you forsaken me?"

How many beings did Jesus reference in Matthew 27:46?

Either you LIED or Jesus did.

MaxInDHouse:


Shame on you as you cut off the Bible verse!

Michael547:

So are you saying that the king James version is wrong for using Jehovah?
Is there a difference between Jehovah and Yahweh?

Emusan:


Provide where the discussion is about Jesus...

The discussion is about the name Jehovah.

Was the name Jehovah an Hebrew or Greek name?

Remember you turn your blind eyes to that question.



Provide the lie I lied against the name Jehovah.

Was the name Jehovah coined by a Catholic Mork or not?

Is the name Jehovah an Hebrew or Greek?

The truth is, the ENGLISH NAME Jesus is a transliteration of the Greek lēsous transliterated to Latin and the New Testament was written in Greek.



You haven't attended to my challenge.

Here it is again Also, about the salvation ONLY in Jesus name, I leave you with this from your own translation:
[b]12 "Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” 13 Now when they saw the outspokenness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated and ordinary men, they were astonished. And they began to realize that they had been with Jesus. 14 As they were looking at the man who had been cured standing with them, they had nothing to say in answer to this. 15 So they commanded them to go outside the Sanʹhe·drin hall, and they began consulting with one another, 16 saying: “What should we do with these men? Because, for a fact, a noteworthy sign has occurred through them, one evident to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and we cannot deny it. 17 So that this does not spread any further among the people, let us threaten them and tell them not to speak to anyone anymore on the basis of this name.” 18 With that they called them and ordered them not to say anything at all or to teach on the basis of the name of Jesus." - Acts 4:12-18

The last part even showed that it was Jesus name the Apostles were proclaiming and that is what the leaders want them to stop.




But you haven't addressed yourself or watchtower addressing themselves as Yahweh's Witness.

Provide your evidence here.

Steep:

Yes Jesus has many names including mighty God, wonderful etc he also bears the name Jehovah is heaven before his incarnation but after his incarnation he had an additional name which is Jesus that is why when the apostles quote the old testament they also attribute the name Jehovah to Jesus, abi you nor know say LORD for old testament na actually yahweh. Hahaha. Confused lots.

Steep:

Your organisation teaches that Jesus has two names Micheal in heaven and Jesus on earth yet you nor fit comment.
.

John 3:16 & John 7:16, is Jesus Christ a messenger?
Yes.
Daniel 10:13, is archangel Michael a messenger?
Yes.
Isaiah 6:8, is Jehovah God a messenger?
No .
Oga Steep bonded to Trinity delusion

Steep:
your watch tower agrees that God takes different roles to fulfill his will yet you nor fit comment.

Oga Steep are you ready for the Bible truth?
Exodus chapters 14 &15 Yahweh was the Warrior & Saviour of the Israelites. He played that role.
Yahweh was the Yireh (Provider) of manna from heaven. Yahweh played that role.

The million dollar question : Is Yahweh a messenger at anytime?
Isaiah 6:8 & John 3:16.
And I heard the voice of LORD JEHOVAH who said: “Whom shall I send, and who will go?”, and I said, “Behold here I am; send me”

John 3:16 "God (Yahweh) sent His only begotten Son"
Oga Steep version: "God Yahweh sent Yahweh himself"

Final verdict: God Yahweh is NOT a Messenger & can NOT do so.
Oga Steep, you are DECEIVING YOURSELF.

Jokerman:



Still better than reducing the authority and Godship of Jesus Christ to an angel

Steep:


Not true many versions also use LORD,some use yahweh so why follow other translations that use Jehovah? .
wonderful, other versions also said that Jesus is God why don't you follow them?

Steep:
Not true many versions also use LORD,some use yahweh so why follow other translations that use Jehovah? wonderful, other versions also said that Jesus is God why don't you follow them?

Steep:
That is not the question, why did watch tower use Jehovah instead of yahweh? Failure to answer this question I will never answer any of your questions.

Emusan:


The Hebrew name of Jesus is Yeshua

Do you have any problem with that?

No! But the English got the name Jesus from Latin derived from the Greek name Lesous.

Do you have problem with that?

Was Jehovah an Hebrew or Greek name?

It's comic yet you claimed you used the name Yahweh often.

Emusan:


Also, about the salvation ONLY in Jesus name, I leave you with this from your own translation [b]12 "Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” 13 Now when they saw the outspokenness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated and ordinary men, they were astonished. And they began to realize that they had been with Jesus. 14 As they were looking at the man who had been cured standing with them, they had nothing to say in answer to this. 15 So they commanded them to go outside the Sanʹhe·drin hall, and they began consulting with one another, 16 saying: “What should we do with these men? Because, for a fact, a noteworthy sign has occurred through them, one evident to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and we cannot deny it. 17 So that this does not spread any further among the people, let us threaten them and tell them not to speak to anyone anymore on the basis of this name.” 18 With that they called them and ordered them not to say anything at all or to teach on the basis of the name of Jesus." - Acts 4:12-18[/b]

And the challenge again, provide a passage like this about the name Jehovah.

Your brain hurts to understand John 17:3 & Revelation 7:9,Acts 4:12 Salvation/eternal life belongs to Jehovah God and His son sent to redeem us.
Emusan dim wit

Emusan:



Lastly, since you used more of Yahweh than Jehovah coined by a Catholic Mork then you're a Yahweh Witness and not a Jehovah witness

Emusan:
This thing really pained this worshipper of the 8 men in Warwick so tee he has to divide my post into 8 different unconnected posts with jargons and spammed my mention with it

But I won't allow you to drag me in the mud as pig with you.

Thank you!

Steep:
The father, Son and Holy Spirit has one name, Yahweh, when the name is used the context would determine who is talking to whom is he talking to.

Steep:

Same problem, you have with John 1vv1 because bother father and Son were called God but the context will tell you which is which.