Christianity Etc › Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 12:21am On Mar 25 |
Floww23: If the alternative are working, your organisation won't start allowing blood fractions, and storing of ones own blood. Give it time, it's baby step they will allow taking others blood too.
The alternative are not working hence this changes, use your head The thing wey we done dey do for over 4 decades now.
Nah now day dey break? Go and rest jare.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 12:18am On Mar 25 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 11:55pm On Mar 24 |
chimex38: If with all the knowledge of Bible, one couldn't come up with this adjustments until the Governing Body said so? Why should I pay attention to any of your teachings if I disagree with anyone.. I will rather wait for your Governing body, since one seem inertly incapable.
Cuz some changes will come in future and I bet they as members won't be able to figure it out through their study before time. But you all will rush to defend the change when it's out.. Yet the people you preach too and try to convert have revealed these things out a lot of times through insight from God before your Governing body..
It means God is with them also. Cuz the changes they are making aren't unique but belated.
Means some aren't capable of independent study to arrive at their own convictions. they only make sure you arrive at the conviction of the general bodys publications consciously or unconsciously without realising it... What are you really saying ? Na wa oo !!
When blood was first transfused , where there storage devices for it? No. At that time, we held on to Acts 15:28-29 abstinence.... Later, medical science improved & medical storage facilities came up,JW's adapted & 40 yrs ago, JWs said "it's a personal decision " how i want my blood to be handled in the course of my medical procedure (using modern medical facilities). We adapted to the use of modern medical facilities,we no shift any policy ooo.
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 11:43pm On Mar 24*. Modified: 12:02am On Mar 25 |
chimex38: Storing ones blood for transfusion is not accepted Thursday 19th March 2026.
Storing ones blood for transfusion is now accepted..Friday 20th March 2026.
Is that not a doctrinal change and adjustment?-
Accept there's been a change . You gain more respect and dignify yourself and your organization the more.
Why this desperation to defend?  Oga, for candid appraisal by everyone, pls quote the last 3 paragraphs of this publication you screenshoted.
The conclusion is very different from the edited portion you screenshot . Why deceive yourself?
Look at the screenshot below,confirm the date ,15th October ,2000 this was a reminder from an older Watchtower publication .. This update was first communicated in the late 1970/80s .
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 11:36pm On Mar 24 |
Eldeedon: What a big waooo 
Now blood transfusion is suddenly safe! As far as is coming from your own body and entering it back 
Praise governing body Oga, is the red substance in your own system safe & if it comes back to you in the course of a medical procedure? |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 11:23pm On Mar 24 |
advanceDNA: When u are in a cult like JW and Islam …. Wateva religious leaders say is final….even if the context if ur religious text says different….
Thats how they misinterpreted praying in the closet.. i asked one of them yesterday i hope they all have closet ooooo…. Oga, that label no concern JW's. The screenshot says something else. 
As for the matter of prayer,we follow Jesus instruction & example. Matt 6:4-9. Omo,in your closet. Also, Matt 4:17. Matt 5:1-48, Matt 10:5,11-14,what is Jesus example about praying when preaching? Is Paul's exampe @ Ephesians 3:14-20 how you say "Amen?" @$ Ephesians 3:14-20,In your Bible ,how many times did Paul say "Amen" when praying?
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 11:02pm On Mar 24 |
Courz:
They are finding it very hard to accept the new update. It is shocking after thousands have died. They are choosing to misinterpret and scatter everything to console themselves. The Governing Body member in this update clearly spoke English but since they were banned from University education, they seem not to understand English. . I don't think somee have watched this update before commenting. Oga, provide the medical research data or Academic journal to support your assumptioxns.
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 10:44pm On Mar 24 |
advanceDNA: 1. Lol….: u have switch to insults... I ask again …where did this brain u are claiming you are using disappeared to when u were banning all from of transfusion years back including your own blood..??
2. God is not an author of confusion baba…u are the ones confusing your self on your congregation and thats why yall are desperate to explain now S 1. At early times of B. T,there were no sophisticated storage devices then, that were in use now,the advances in medical treatment paved the way for modern devices to manage patients care. While, we always insist on no BT (from another person or donor), we always said " it's a personal decision" to determine how the medical team will handle your blood in the course of a surgical procedure. We adapted to the advances in medical facilities without compromise of core belief "Abstain from BT from a donor." 2. No confusion at all. Oga, God Himself is Unchangeable Changer. At a time, He gave his people manna, later He gave them qwail (meat). He is still Jehovah -jireh (He always provides). God is not resistant to positive change. My JW's brothers & sisters will receive better care because modern medical devices can better manage their medical procedure without compromising their beliefs. With full confidence, medical professionals will tell you that treating Jws without B. T has improved their knowledge & competence. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Janosky: 10:09pm On Mar 24 |
Emusan: He wants to deviate from the main point.
Read this part slowly with your brain cells in place:
"Occasionally, a doctor will urge a patient to deposit his own blood weeks before surgery (preoperative autologous blood donation, or PAD) so that if the need arises, he could transfuse the patient with his own stored blood..."
Do you mean your organization also didn't know the meaning of Transfusion? 
You didn't believe such statement comes from your own organization. What a shameless thing.
Was Jehovah, Jesus & holy spirit directed your god of men in Warwick in year 2000 for them to have come to that conclusion?
Did your god of men in Warwick Prayed and studied the scripture in year 2000 before publishing that article?
Your answer to these questions will determine if what they claimed "After much prayer and study of the scripture..." in the ;New LIGHT announcement should be questioned by a honest heartminded person or not.
See the screenshot again below. Oga, did that your quote say your own blood was donated & transfused to any jw? B. T. is from a donor to another person (recipient). That is the standard definition, even the medical professionals know that JW's don't that. You go wail tire.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Now Allow Transfusion Of One’s Own Blood by Janosky: 9:57pm On Mar 22 |
Eldeedon: Since when did it become my personal decision?
If you were asked this same question by this time last week, how would you have answered me ? Since the late 1970/80s to this time 2026, our fellow JW's & JW's publications have always emphasized it's a "personal decision".
The News media nah dem put the label "new policy shift", new doctrinal adjustments" blah blah blah. to gain people's attention.
You & dem know say any JW's matter nah front page news.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 9:46pm On Mar 22*. Modified: 10:13pm On Mar 24 |
advanceDNA: Baba…All u are doing now is desperately explaining for your leaders who just wake up and make laws to form spiritually active
I ask again.. years ago when yall banned all forms of blood transfusions by claiming its the same as physically eating blood…..was ur knowledge limited at the that time to know its okay to eat ur own blood??
And by the way… if u have actually been to the dentist to remove ur tooth u should know they give a local anaesthetic which restricts ur blood vessels,… but as usual u are desperate to explain on behalf of ur insensitive leaders so u use any analogy u can find When the dentist give you anaesthetics & commence tooth extraction , the red substance from the incision dey enter your system, Oga,is that a blood donation or B.T ?
No.This is the simple meaning of B.T:
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+7 blood transfusion /ˈblʌd tran(t)sfjuːʒ(ə)n/ A blood transfusion is a common medical procedure where donated blood or components (red cells, platelets, plasma) are delivered intravenously into a patient's bloodstream."
Oga, the difference is B.T. is donated blood to another patient.
You don't donate your own blood for your own surgical procedure.
Oga,use your brain nau. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Janosky: 9:21pm On Mar 22 |
Courz: You can see he refused to answer you because of Shame. After their Governing Body has created Worldwide disgrace. Look at them trending all over social media. How will they go out to preach with this level of embarrassment? 😅😅😅😅 Nah him way. Joyless entity 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Janosky: 9:18pm On Mar 22 |
Emusan: Show me the misinformation I'm spreading... Emusan: You're the one who spotted the misinformation, why can't you just point it out? achorladey: I talk am allegations without substantial evidence. Lie and accuse people wrongly just to attack them because of their point of view on a subject matter. AI Mode All Images Videos News Forums Short videos Search tools Feedback AI overview AI Overview
+7 blood transfusion /ˈblʌd tran(t)sfjuːʒ(ə)n/ "A blood transfusion is a common medical procedure where donated blood or components (red cells, platelets, plasma) are delivered intravenously into a patient's bloodstream."
Do you donate your own blood to transfuse yourselves? Emusan & Achorladey,continue deceiving yourselves.
Izigha !!!!
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Now Allow Transfusion Of One’s Own Blood by Janosky: 9:05pm On Mar 22 |
Eldeedon: But is it now possible for me to take in my own blood now if I want to?? This is a reality you may have experienced. When you do tooth extraction, nah where the red substance in your mouth dey enter? Oga, it's a personal decision you alone would make .  |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 8:56pm On Mar 22 |
Eldeedon: If you guys have this perfect contingency on ground thats already working, then tell me what's the need of this update that was released few days ago??
Abeg make us understand the need of the update..
I'm waiting.... Like I said before, on this forum. It's the mainstream news media that labelled the practice that JW's have been doing since the late 1970s/80s down to this 2026 as "new policy shift".
That hundeyin guy was a toddler when the info was first published in our journals,you know not everybody reads JW's publications ,hence they wouldn't know what every JW's know about this matter. The info is in our older publications (before the advent of the internet) that the matter is a personal decision (jw broadcast update #2 video) stated the same thing and referenced our Watchtower year 2000 October article as reminder to all JW's worldwide . Not everyone could access the older Watchtower articles , but our TV broadcast is widely received everywhere.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Now Allow Transfusion Of One’s Own Blood by Janosky: 8:34pm On Mar 22 |
cyrusmillz: Honestly ive read all the verses he quoted and all the verses are saying is " Don't eat blood" where did they get their own interpretation from. I'm shocked Is doing oral action disobeying the instruction "abstain from fornication" ?
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Christianity Etc › Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 8:28pm On Mar 22 |
akpumping7720: Jesus answered them, ‘I tell you this. The Son can do nothing by himself. He sees what the Father does, and he can do only those same things. What the Father does, the Son also does.
Please what does the above bible verse had to do with what the guy you quoted has to do with his comment? Person said he refused to let others think for him and you quoted a verse that has to do with Jesus' response to the Pharisees about him healing someone on the Sabbath day. And that authority comes from God. Jesus did what Someone else think for him. John 5:19. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 8:25pm On Mar 22 |
MrEar: Yes I know why. Because critical thinking is forbidden in JW organization.
That is why JW leaders don't want their members to be educated. So that anything they tell you, you must do.
That is a CULT. What do you gain by lying ?
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 8:22pm On Mar 22 |
tnerro1: Please don’t equate oral action to a doctor’s decision or advice to give blood to a patient he deems is in need of it. Abeg nah You don't seem to understand the point I expressed.
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 8:18pm On Mar 22 |
advanceDNA: So why are u here changing the laws u claim are from God’s scripture?? Yall claim eating blood and transfusing is the same thing years ago to justify refusing all forms of transfusion….
so all of a sudden eating your own blood is now okay??
The man in USA is just playing with your lives in a bid to appear unique….yall are not different from muslims who dint read their quran but are inly told whats in it… Oga,have you ever done tooth extraction? When the dentist is extracting your tooth ,nah where the red substance dey go?
Are you eating that red substance flowing out from your wound & entering back to your system? Oga,pls reason am.
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 8:08pm On Mar 22 |
tnerro1: We have the 10 commandments in the Bible that basically says what is not acceptable. Can you show in the Bible where blood was given to someone medically?
At least, that will be used as a case study for why it was written that the procedure is wrong and should not be done. To your question , no. However , the bible has both laws and principles which has been proven by medical science to be very essential to public health. For example, the bible instruction of washing of hands and quarantine of the sick , was carried out for many centuries before medical science recommended it as standard practice. Acts 15:28-29, specifically prohibits fornication. oral action is not in that verse. Is someone doing oral action disobeying the instruction against fornication ? Yes. JW's use this same bible principle (prohibition of oral action/blood ) to abstain from B.T. |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 7:58pm On Mar 22 |
MaxInDHouse: This is why you people can't make real disciples like Jehovah's Witnesses does so when you see really dedicated men and women sticking to what they have learned you become so jealous that you can't control yourselves anymore.
There is nothing wrong in asking questions but then if someone doesn't answer all your questions all you need to do is bring back the question you will like the person to address but when you continue insulting someone simply because he chooses to respond to you regarding what he believes then you will loose it.
Go out there and make real dedicated disciples like JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES if you feel you have knowledge o!🙂 Bro, stay calm.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 7:55pm On Mar 22 |
advanceDNA: So how is this screenshot a response to emergency blood need like road accident victims, anaemic patient who cant store their blood and suddenly need blood..?? Im genuinely asking Oga, Thank you Sir for asking. I like your curious ,inquisitive mindset.
JW's have 24/7 support group with contingency plans that partner with medical professionals when medical emergencies arise that involve JW's .
My family member who was very anaemic at the time (a couple of years ago ,coupled with a life threateniing health issues) she received prompt assistance from the support group. The Group was in partnership with medical professionals who performed her medical procedure. She had a major surgery without blood & she's doing very fine without any post operatic issues till date . |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 7:50pm On Mar 22 |
advanceDNA: U are angry because the truth is like a hard knock on the head…. I dropped some examples of medical situations needing blood… u ignored them and responded only to pregnant women claiming u already have solution to blood loss during delivery …. Are u not deceiving yourself sir…..?? Whats the solution u have for anaemic disease patients that cant even store their own blood because they dont even have enough to begin with
The millions of children saved by one man’s blood transfusion… what provisions do u have for that??
Like i said sir be deceiving yourself just to juatify your points JW's have 24/7 support group with contingency plans that partner with medical professionals when medical emergencies arise that involve JW's .
My family member who was very anaemic at the time (a couple of years ago) ,received prompt assistance from the support group. The Group was in partnership with medical professionals who performed her medical procedure. She had a major surgery without blood & she's doing very fine without any post operatic issues .
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 7:35pm On Mar 22 |
advanceDNA: This screenshot is supposed to be what sir?? The screenshot is visible in my previous comment @ 7:17pm. It address a point you made about emergency situations, which necessitated the highlighted part of the screenshot , to respond to your point. |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 7:30pm On Mar 22 |
advanceDNA: U ddnt read… u jumped into into a conversation in between…. This discussion isnt about your choice…i mean u can choose it to eat for 100days… but saying the bible said so its a different issue entirely
there are pple who dont use drugs at all, some dont eat meat, and some types of foods…but they are not claiming scripture said so.. .. this discussion is ur skewed interpretation of scriptural context at the expense if pple’s lives
…. Act 15:29’s context is about blood from animals… ur organisation is being extreme in a bid to appear different yet deliberately refusing to see they are playing with pple’s lives…. Are all the prohibitions of Acts 15:29 specific to only animals? No. The principle there in, applied to us, humans. That verse is against fornication. Is oral action expressly stated there at Acts 15:29? No. Is someone doing oral action on another person disobeying the instruction against fornication? Yes.
Nah the same principle guide JWs to Abstain from B.T .....
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 7:17pm On Mar 22*. Modified: 7:42pm On Mar 22 |
advanceDNA: Which measure do u have in place from accident victims who lose too many blood , anaemic patients, and pple going for surgery that involve heavy blood loss….?? Baba be deceiving yourself…. Yall are fornicating and committing adultery but trying to prove what is not by refusing a medical intervention that could save life Oga, be humble pls. No dey assume you know everything. JW's have contingency support group to deal with the emergencies like accidents ,etc for our members when the need arises. Every JW's know how to go about it instanta..
Abeg you read the screenshot.
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 7:05pm On Mar 22 |
advanceDNA: I never said its compulsory…. Mothers have complications .. some cannot birth naturally and hence need c-section which may cause need for blood..
Have u heard of accident victims who lose a lot of blood.., hence need transfusion to survive
Have u head if anaemic patients… like patients with sickle cell sometimes need to be trasfused when they have their usual medical crises…. As in …why do u sound so deliberately unintelligent Oga, pls allow us to use all the medical treatment options which the law & medical professionals have agreed is useful & very safe.
Is there any law that stipulates JW's must chose the medical treatment option you prefer?
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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Janosky: 6:59pm On Mar 22 |
Emusan: You keep diving into more delusion and stupidity the more!
Where is the atheist materials that I used?
You still want to justify the fraud of your organization about that booklet "Should you believe in Trinity?"
 Oga,Continue wailing . John 20:17,Deut 10:17 & Psalms 82:6 ,Jehovah is NOT Jesus. "Jehovah is the God of gods ( his sons- angels +Jesus+man). John 10:34-36 & John 20:17 Jesus agreed with Deut 10:17 & Psalms 82:6 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 6:44pm On Mar 22 |
Leilanjleeane: Hudeyin, stop fighting the system that moulded you. Change is constant. It shows progression. Transfusion from another person is what they are against This is what we have been against as far as I can recall. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 6:38pm On Mar 22 |
2mch: Nothing ethical about giving gullible people advice that will cost them their lives. It’s also not legal to push such, in any place where there is a government. Which is why JW ask their members to personally reject it. If they tried to reject it on behalf of their members they would have all been rounded up and arrested. It’s not right, it’s not standard, it’s not ethical. The laws says we can chose the medical treatment option we prefer. Medical science has advanced & given us different treatment options to pick from. Oga, why is that so difficult for you to live with? Must everyone accept your personal preference?
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Christianity Etc › Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Janosky: 6:31pm On Mar 22 |
Emusan: They are not perfect but punishing people for their imperfect doctrines, how does that make sense?
Do you even consider people who have lost their love ones against this imperfect doctrines?
Between, Jehovah, Jesus & holy Spirit supposed to be directing the Governing Body, so how can they make imperfect decisions? JW's are not the cause of whatever is paining you I don't know wetin dey pain you.
We owe you nothing. |