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BlackViper:
I didn't deny that guidance is needed to understand the Bible. In fact Acts 8:30 that you quoted shows that it was the Holy Spirit that guided Philip to speak to the Ethiopian eunuch.

All I want to know is where in the Bible we are told that in the end times, a man called Charles Taze russell will be sent to guide us into Biblical truth, because the Bible says something VERY different:

John 16:13
“When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth…”

The Bible tells us that it is the Holy Spirit who interprets Biblical truth to us.

So do JWs believe that Charles Taze Russell is the Holy Spirit?

BlackViper:
Jesus NEVER said He was not good. He merely ASKED why the term was being applied to Himself. He was testing the man who called Him good.

Jesus didn't have a problem with being called "good". He referred to Himself as the Good Shepherd:

John 10:11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep"

Jesus is God in human form. He is Eternal and has no beginning or end.

tctrills:
So the bible showed neither Jesus Christ nor Paul loving a wife, yet we follow the principle they taught. Now, Paul taught a principle, and you are asking for evidence of him practicing it. Make that make sense, sir.

tctrills:
Job 38.4,7 talks about the foundation of the earth, not the creation of man. 2 diffrent events. Never was it written that angels rejoiced at the creation of man. Maybe they di,d but it is not recorded in the Christian Bible. Stop spreading lies.

tctrills:
Oga lets see how foolish your argument is.
Paul taught Men to love their wives, but it is not recorded that Paul had or loved his wife. Just because something is not recorded doesn't mean that the principle taught becomes false.

tctrills:
Romans 14:5 is perhaps the simplest verse in the bible. According to the bible, who are you to judge one for choosing to celebrate or esteem Christmas Day? I advise you to stick to the bible even if it offends the big white bosses of your organization. Trust me, they know nothing. You would be blessed following the teachings of Paul and not your corrupt white boss. For me, it's so easy, I just stick to the revealed word. I don't depend on criminals to worship.

tctrills:
It's good you agree that Angels celebrated the birth of Christ, so what do you have against humans doing the same?

Lastly, nowhere in the christian bible is it recorded that Angels celebrated the creation of Adam. I guess the JW have strange scriptures not found in the bible. For now, let's stick to the bible.

paxonel:
Jw isn't Christianity but another religion entirely, forget the deception that they are carrying bible.

People that view Jesus Christ as a fellow worshipper of God just like Islam and Budhaism what do you expect from them?

Their religion name is watchtower!
They worship their gathering and house to house preaching, not God

MaxInDHouse:
This is how Jesus presented himself to all his friends and followers:

“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

So Jesus is our fellow worshiper not our God!🙂

MrEar:
You don't get it Max,

Let me tell you something,

I recall that in the past Jehovah witnesses use to make fun of televangelists.

I was surprised when one of your members invited me to his house to watch a video, I thought it was a downloaded video but Lo! and Behold! it was a tv channel. A JW TV CHANNEL.

You see your organisation is now slowly becoming like other churchians as you like to call us. How?

1. Now you people are televangelists
2. You people can keep beards
3. Sisters can now wear trousers
4. No more shunning of disfellowshipped members
5. You can report or arrest a fellow witness for commiting a crime

God is really wonderful. The light is getting brighter!

Very soon, they will allow all of you to accept/donate blood and save the life of your loved ones

Am sure Janosky will love that.

MrEar:
Did they not drop some of your elders for sending their kids to university?

DOnt lie OOO!!

MrEar:
Ask your leaders. They seem to know the yard stick that was why they banned you people from going to university.

MrEar:
Hmm!

See big LIE!

MrEar:
Thank God O!

Your leaders did not want you to be educated.

tctrills:
You read that Paul wrote it's a personal choice so even if he did, there was no need to announce it.


Please explain how 1 Corinthians 11.1 has to do with Christmas.
.

Did Jesus celebrate his birthday every year?
No, Jesus shunned birthday celebrations.
Did Paul copy Jesus example shunning birthday celebration?
Yes, 1 Corinthians 11:1 is the solid proof.
Your interpretation of Romans 14:5 is against evidence of the holy scriptures & secular history.

Confirm this fact from secular history ,pls.
Early Christians no do am.

tctrills:
Again, we don't know if Paul celebrated the birth of Christ but we know for certain that the angels in heaven celebrated it.

MrEar:
Stop pretending.

Your members are happy they can now keep beards, Something God gave them naturally

And your sisters are happy they can now wear trousers.

Even though deep down they wanted to, they couldn't do that in the past because some group of white men in America told them not to.

Same group of white men that told you not to get a good university education but they make use of the best educated lawyers to protect child abusers.

Hope you sent my greetings to MaxInDHouse.

MrEar:
Yes, Like protecting protecting children not harming them.

MaxInDHouse:
He is only interested in whatever BBC will say against the religion that makes him feel he is not a true believer!😀

MrEar:
God is working. Here are changes from your organisation.




Its sad that they only made these changes because they lost Millions of dollars.

They would have kept forgiving the predators, sane way you were asking me to forgive them.

tctrills:
Romans 14:4-5 actually did, It gave you the freedom to choose if you will celebrate or not, And it made it clear that you would not be judged for celebrating.
Lets read it together.
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

First, it teaches people like you that you don't have the right to judge others for celebrating. But I know you learnt nothing here.
Then it went on to teach that the decision to celebrate or not should come from our minds. So each person can and should make their own decision.

So I ask, would you obey the instructions of Paul and stop judging those who decide to celebrate or would you continue obeying you wicked leaders and continue to accuse the brethren who celebrate.

Again, hope you remember that even the angels celebrated the birth of Jesus Christ?

sagenaija:
MaxinDHouse, Is comprehension difficult for you? That verse did not say it is signs. Did you see the portion I bolded? Here it again:
"Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIM, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him." Rev. 1:7.
"EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIM" means just what it says. It did not say every eye will see signs. You will be reinterpreting the Scripture to say that. Wise up, man!

MrEar:
I thought I was wasting your precious time. I guess your time wasn't precious after all.




Good question. Because Europeans and westerners are educated civilised people who know their rights! So even though your leaders warned them not to report, they know their rights and they disobey. That's the power of education. A power your leaders want to take any from you.




LIES. They are not exjw. They were devout members who trusted the elders or brothers that abused them and even after reporting nothing was done to them. You members forgave them and they kept abusing kids. that is why you were telling me in the beginning of our discussion that we should forgive them. What a shame!



They took action. They sued your organisation and your organisation paid them millions. Their action has changed things in your organisation. Am sure they have warned you not to preach to a child if the parents are not around.

Jesus loves children and he will continue to expose religions that harm children!

Thank you my Lord Jesus 🙏

tctrills:
This is a very foolish question because the bible was not written to indicate whether birthdays were celebrated or not. The most important thing is that we are guided by the principles. So the question should be, do you believe the teachings of Paul or not?

Are you even listening to yourself?
Oga,where are you getting the principle to celebrate what you claim your Bible ( the teachings of Paul at Romans 14:4-5 ) did not indicate whether you should celebrate or not?

Which believer in the Roman congregation followed your spurious interpretation of Romans 14:4-5 in the days of Paul the apostle?
"Do not go beyond the things that are written." ,
Obey that injunction
or
Just continue deceiving yourself.

MrEar:
I understand your pain and frustration

You could not keep beards because men like you told you not to keep it until they gave you the permission to keep what God gave you.

Very painful and frustrating to be a Jehovah witness.

Kpele.

Greet your brother MaxInDHouse for me.

MaxInDHouse:
Christians are free to dedicate a day for themselves is it collectively for the purpose of worship or individually to do whatever they want each in the name of Jesus?🙂

tctrills:
So you know more than paul who taught that believers are free to dedicate a day to the Lord?
Oga your church is not zhe standard for Christianity, the teachings of Jesus Christ and His apostle is the standard.
Even if the people in Rome at that time did not celebrate Christmas, as long as the teachings of Paul clearly stated that it is not a sin, who are you to judge?

Even if Christmas started 1 million years after the death of Christ, the teachings of Paul makes it clear that it is acceptable to God.

Lets read the verse again.

Romans 14:5–6
One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever does not regard one day as special does so to the Lord as well

Christmas is done unto the Lord thats whats important

MaxInDHouse:
There is nothing worthwhile in speaking a language which your neighbor doesn't understands yet you keep speaking just to prove you speak jargons!

MrEar:
Your Founder was Charles Taze Russell, the man in the first picture below. He wrote and published so many publications that your present leaders have thrown out as garbage.



Nice one. But let us also put it this way, any religion that has leaders who cannot be questioned or corrected is not practising Christianity.



From what I've learned you dare not question or correct the group of men in the second picture below. Whatever they tell you, you must do.

If they tell you keeping beards is bad, you must shave it. If they tell you keeping beards is okay then you can keep it.

Since out of fear, you could not question or correct them that there is nothing wrong in keeping beards, then you all are not practicing Christianity.

Oga, name the church leader you have corrected .
Let's confirm you have practiced Christianity as you claim.
Making noise is cheap.

MrEar:
Jesus Christ loved children. He would never have anything to do with a religious group that protects child abusers.

RightChannel:
If not about building, it is about singing right?

Matthew 16:18
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church;

Oga, go and rest

Please stop deceiving yourself

RightChannel:
Don't tell me you want to run away for my questions!

You previously said the word Church ONLY means GATHERING and not building. After you were exposed, you turn it to asking Jesus for the meaning thereby condemning what the meaning is from google, wikipedia, etc you are now ro man cing with.

Meanwhile, Mathews 16:18 used the word "BUILD" and I told you Church can mean two things, first is gathering of the children of God and second is BUILDING depending on what you are using it for in a sentence!

Perhaps you should check for the meaning of BUILD from google, encyclopedia and wikipedia so as to stop confusing yourself again!

RightChannel:
Take these questions back home when next you will be gathering inside hall for your meeting..

1. Is "upon this rock I will build my church" an idiomatic phrase?

2. Where is your HALL found in Bible unlike the word Church that is read from the Bible?


Take care!

You lack understanding.
This fact is very glaring.
Oga, is "rock" @ Matt 17:18 a reference to a physical feature ?
Is every church you know,built on a rock?
Is gate of hades ("hell" a physical structure that can not prevail over the church you call a building?

Oga, wise up ,I dey beg you .

RightChannel:
Do not deviate!

Where is your HALL written in Bible?

LordReed:
Is your wife giving you trouble?

QuinQ:
Ogaaaaaah, you may be slow but I'm sure u were not born yesterday. No need to debate words. Jews never used the words Jesus used. They were reserved for God!

QuinQ:
THE PEOPLE PRESENT (which u were NOT) KNEW HE WAS CLAIMING TO BE GOD! (including the chief priest). And here you are, 2000 years later second-guesing what they heard!

QuinQ:
He forgave sins, accepted worship, entered people’s hearts! What other attribute would convince you he is God?
Not only that, the Father could have struct him down for lying, instead He rose from the DEAD to be worshipped exactly as God!
Or are you saying God is powerless??