Steep:

Jehovah is a name shared by all three persons of the God head, in other words yahweh is a multipersonal being and the particular person that became Jesus is yahweh the word.

Steep:

The nation of Israel is called an "He" even though they are made up of many persons.
The word used to describe God's oneness in deuteronomy 6:4 is echad, and echad as used in th bible is a plural unity as against yachad which is singular unity.
When God said Adam and eve would become one flesh the word one is actually the echad which is the plural form of unity.

Steep:

It is not a contradiction. God is one in essence but three in person.
Allah in the Koran wants to be more than one person badly that he keeps using "we" everywhere. Again Muslims do not know the meaning of tawheed they say tawheed mean Allah is only one but tawheed actually means a unification of many things.
In the old testament God use the word "us" to describe himself.
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BitterPost:


Learn how to eat meat and stop looking for milk.

You are the one confusing yourself.

Question :Does the bible have scriptures describing Jesus christ as a God (with capital G) ?
Answer : Yes

Question: Despite being a God, (with capital G) did Jesus ever equate himself with the father?
Answer : NO.

Proof :


Question : Why is Jesus Described as a God, with capital G?
Answer :


Question : Why did Jesus say I and the father are ONE?
Answer : The context of John 10:30 is important for understanding the significance of Jesus’ words. In the preceding verses, Jesus speaks about His role as the Good Shepherd, who gives eternal life to His sheep and protects them. He says that no one can snatch His sheep out of His hand or the Father's hand.This leads to the declaration that He and the Father are one, reinforcing their joint sovereignty and care over believers.

paxonel:
Note that we are not living in Pauls era anymore, times have change.

In this era, people are so intelligent that they care more about your ability to practice what you preach.
They want to see you living the life so that they can emulate you to become believers rather than mere preaching it.
no correlation with what I'm saying with Acts 9.

What I'm saying is, our lives as Christians is what matters most than religious practices.
certainly!

Not just only pocket.
You will lose your intelligence too

Kingsempires:
so what is your explaination to this verse to what I quoted above

Kingsempires:
So janosky my question is who is Jesus to you

According to Jesus Christ on earth,Matthew 16:13-17 on the earthly realm. Christ is the son/servant of God his Father (Senior).

According to Jesus Christ in heaven, Revelation 1:1 & Revelation 3:12, in the spiritual realm, Christ is the son not elevated to the position his God & Father ALONE occupies.

Let me point out a very significant point in these verses.

Jesus Christ said what you read about Christ in Matthew 16:13-17. Revelation 1:1 & Revelation 3:12 is REVEALED.


If you like, cling tight to the delusion invented at Nicene.
That's your cup of coffee.

Kingsempires:
Men!!!, what did you want me to say; me and you are not believing the same thing .are you going to say that am going to hell for the way i believe God is or am I going to say that you will go to hell because of the way you believe God is that is why i said i leave everything for God to Judge so can't misunderstand my quote

johnw47:


lost fraud jw janosky

so you believe the Word was God but now is not God
you people are as dum as they come, aren't you

johnw47:


once again how dum can one be, man begets a son who is also a human being
God begets a Son who is also a God being, like i said

Kingsempires:
Let God be the one to judge the world

johnw47:


ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

truly lost and most dum fraud jw janosky

God and the word are God beings, and of course you cannot stop false accusing/lying, like your devil:

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Kingsempires:
so explain how you understood the chapters and verses that he quoted here

1 Corinthians 8:6 God his Father is the creator of EVERYTHING.
Jesus is a creature, the first born of God, sent into the world, Hebrew 1:6. Colossians 1:15.
In your Bible 'Father' meaning Senior.
The Father of Jesus senior Jesus in every sense.

Hebrew 1:2. John 1:3, God created the world through ( Greek dia antou) His Son, the agency of creation.

"Let us make man", God told his son. Genesis 1:26. Hebrew 1:2 is the evidence.

Kingsempires:
who you come dey call illiterate pastor?

Tetraozonaitera:


To answer your question:

ISAIAH 52:5-7

5Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
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Tetraozonaitera:


Saul sought the help of the Witch of Endor to summon the Spirit of Samuel. The Spirit cursed Saul eventually.

Ken4Christ:


You reject the revelation of Jesus and uphold the word of a man spoken in ignorance. Who told you that everything you read in Ecclesiastes is divine revelation from God?

Illiterate pastor, please Go & convince your fellow Trinitarian,Oga Steep that Ecclesiastes according to you,is not divine revelation.

Nah the same ghost give una conflicting, contradictory information.

Ken4Christ:


The first step is to receive eternal life. And this life is in Jesus. The invitation to receive eternal or everlasting life is not mysterious. It's as simple as learning ABC. Just believe in your heart that Jesus died for you and confess with your mouth that he is your Lord and Saviour. And you will be saved. You will receive eternal life. But you have rejected this simple message of the scripture. Instead you are following the false teachings of Russell and Rutherford. So, you have decided to abide in spiritual death. The end of people who reject the gospel of our Lord Jesus is hell and Lake of fire.

The first step to receive eternal life,according to Jesus Christ is John 17:3.
*1. Knowledge of the God who sent Jesus.

*2. Knowledge of Jesus the Son sent by the God in heaven.
Shout upandan "Jesus is my Lord and personal saviour" & neglect the instructions of John 17:3, you're wasting your time.

John 17:3 is another big blow against Trinity.

Kingsempires:
leave them make them dey twist the bible

Kingsempires:
People were call their self christians by does'nt believe that Jesuschrist is God.

Ken4Christ:


Destruction is in hell and Lake of fire. It doesn't mean cessation of existence. Otherwise the beast and the false prophet cast into the Lake fire in Revelation 19;20 would have ceased to exist. But they were acknowledged to still be there after 1,000 years of Jesus reing. And Satan was also cast in there. I have cited these references to you before but you still held on to the lies established by Russell and Rutherford who are obviously both in hell.

Kingsempires:
I guess there are the anti Christ that was said in the bible

Ken4Christ:


The Jehovah Witness are not Christians. They are anti Christ. They are agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light.

Ken4Christ:


The Deity of Christ unveiled all over the scriptures. Only a blind man will read through the statements of Jesus and not be convinced is is God in human flesh.

He had power to forgive sins which no human could do.

He had the power to give eternal life which no human could do.

That same power that Jesus & John said does not belong to Jesus, John 17:7

Oga, you are deceiving yourself.

Ken4Christ:


He had the power to raise himself from the dead which no human could do.

Ken4Christ:

He had the power to ascend back to heaven which no human could do.

He made statements which no human ever made or could have make.

He said

I am the way, the truth and the life.

I am the bread of life.

I am the living water.

I am the first and the last.

Before Abraham was, I am

He who has seen me as seen the Father.

Ken4Christ:


Angels worshipped him. Humans worshipped Him. Demons flee at the mention of his name.

Greek proskyneu , original meaning was prostrate, or kneeling to greet a elderly person or monarch.

When applied to Jesus, proskyneu means prostrate or bow down (the manner Yorubas greet their Kabiyesi or monarch).
You are not worshipping Jesus or your monarch.
Illiterate pastor deceiving himself

Ken4Christ:


Humans were created. Jesus is the creator.

John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

I could go on and on. The evidences are overwhelming.

Illiterate pastor TWISTING John 1:3, what is the meaning of Greek "dia antou" @ John 1:3. 1 Corinthians 8:6 & Hebrew 1:2?

You know nothing except deceiving & misleading gullible folks.

Kingsempires:
Anybody that is saying that Jesus is an angel or is not God is not a christian,that person is another religion person on his-her own

Kingsempires:
trouble maker

Oga,nah your fellow Trinitarian posted those screenshots on Facebook.

Please Go and confirm it for yourself.

Ken4Christ:


My God is only mysterious to carnal people like you. You don't have the capacity to receive spiritual truths because you don't have the Spirit of God.

johnw47:


God and the Word are God beings. i and my father are human beings

In a nutshell, John W is a polytheist worshipping more than 2 different beings, his God beings.


Idol worshippers.
Confirmed by the screenshots.

johnw47:
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God

1. God beget the Word, 2. the Word is God,
what God beget is God, what God made (angel) is not God

what man begets is man, what man makes is not man


God begat the Word:
1Jn_4:9  By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world so that we might live through Him.

the Word is God:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 

You quoted John 1:1.
Where did you see "IS" @ John 1:1?

Man begets another man, another being not himself.


LYING is inseparable from trinitarians.

johnw47:


being born is sometimes said to be created, but they are diffrent;
being born is to be part of the one who beget you, being created is to be bought into
existance through God's Word.
in adam's case the Word made adam from the dust of the ground,
and the Word made eve from adam's rib

it could be said i created a small lake on my property, but actually
i made a small lake on my property using my bulldozer

johnw47:


God is a Spirit, the Word is the same Spirit as His Father

just like i am the same dna as my parents

Ken4Christ:


My God is only mysterious to carnal people like you. You don't have the capacity to receive spiritual truths because you don't have the Spirit of God.

Pastor posting GIBBERISH.

Spiritual truth of Psalm 45:6-7 distorted & CHANGED by your Trinitarian mentors @ Hebrew 1:8.

Spiritual truth of 1 Timothy 3:16 & 1 John 5:7 distorted & CHANGED by your Trinitarian mentors.


If you want more evidences, it's very much available.

Ken4Christ:


You are quoting scriptures that supports your opinions while ignoring many more others that speaks otherwise.

What about where God the Father called Jesus God?

Hebrews 1:8-9.
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. note

9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Greek New testament of Hebrew 1:8-9 is a copy of Psalm 45:6-7.

Oga,read the Hebrew Psalm 45 & understand that verse.
"God is your throne"/ your throne is from God "
Psalm 45:6-7 the Message Bible. New Jerusalem Bible. The Hebrew Masoretic text. Screenshot evidences.
Pastor,Go & verify.

Your Trinitarian mentors doctored Hebrew 1:8 for a purpose: deception & distortion of the scriptures.

Ken4Christ:


God the Father is invisible. Jesus is the physical manifestation of the invisible God. So, if you want to see God, look at Jesus.

Greek New testament of Hebrew 1:8-9 is a copy of Psalm 45:6-7.


John 14:9-10 & John 14:24. John 17:8,21-23 is in your Bible. Please study & receive understanding.

The Trinitarian illusion that both are the same being is very deceptive.

Tetraozonaitera:


Janoski I love your points I will respond when I have the time.

In the mean Time, explain what "The Word" means to our readers. You can see I replied at midnight so, I will respond properly to you later. Meanwhile again, explain what "The Word" means.
Shalom