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Christianity EtcRe: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 12:19pm On Mar 22
chimex38:
Doctrinal Changes And Effect On Personal Judgement



This is a fallout from the recent adjustment on blood transfusion from JW which other doctrinal adjustments also happens in every other religion as well.

Where do we draw the line as Christians?

Previous thread https://www.nairaland.com/8638945/jehovahs-witnesses-now-allow-transfusion
Oga,this is not a recent adjustment .

Have you been reading /studying the Watchtower since the late 1970/1980's?


Numerous Watchtower articles in the 1980s have given the same info that the Jw broadcast tv update #2 emphasized for clarity.
The news media claimed it is "recent adjustment" but that news report is not true.
Christianity EtcRe: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 12:11pm On Mar 22
2mch:
They are commenting with several usernames backing themselves up. This guy vehemently against blood transfusion is now claiming to have done it and it’s not good. Then they have gone to edit their website to prevent lawsuit.

You see these churches, they only care about their bank account and will do anything to preserve their business while preaching false doctrines which do not exist in the Bible to control you.
Your last paragraph,is that your own church ?
Just asking.......
cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness Now Allow Blood Transfusion But Only Your Own Blood. See How by Janosky: 10:44pm On Mar 20
Kalulu44:
Abeg I don't have time to argue with you, I can see you're a JW, so you win.
Oga, everything I have explained ,you are free to use your data ask questions and verify.
No limit to learning.
God bless.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Now Allow Transfusion Of One’s Own Blood by Janosky: 10:36pm On Mar 20
eagleonearth:
you that believe the Bible, who is Jesus Christ to you?
From his mouth, John 10:34-36 Jesus is the son of God.
Jesus is a god, he quotes Psalm 82:6 to confirm it .

Deuteronomy 10:17, "Yahweh his Father is the God of gods " ( his sons- Jesus +man+angels @ Psalms 82:1,6.)

@ John 1:1 ,the Word ,(God's son) is a god"

Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Now Allow Transfusion Of One’s Own Blood by Janosky: 10:29pm On Mar 20
advanceDNA:
This is a desperate and a very-close-to weird explanation…it is very far from context just as your organisation’s interpretation of the scripture is very far from context…..

The scripture talked about eating animals but dont eat the blood…how did u arrive at blood transfusion??
Blood performs the same function in humans and animals.
God doesn't make distinction between their function in both the body of humans and animals.

Your bible says "ABSTAIN from blood.".
Abstain means Abstain.
Abstain from fornication,says your Bible.
Do you think that oral action is ok,because your Bible didn't say "Abstain from oral action"?
This is similar position you base your view about transfusion


Your bible verse also says " do not eat the blood of any creature".
Oga, Is man a creature?
Yes.

The analogy already stated is irrefutable.
Blood is sacred,in case you don't know .
God is wiser than all of us.

Shalom.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness Now Allow Blood Transfusion But Only Your Own Blood. See How by Janosky: 10:02pm On Mar 20
Kalulu44:
First of all I don't even have any belief or religion I adhere to.
But for one religion or belief to tell his or her followers not to do what we save their lives is absolutely absurd, take it or leave it

Oga,did the law says an adult have the fundamental right to choose the medical treatmentment they prefer?
Yes.

JW's love to save their lives & chose the medical option we prefer,which the law & medical science AGREE we can chose..
Medical treatments to chose from are many & diverse.

It's bias to come online & criticize,bash the choice of medical treatment (recognized by law & medical professionals) an adult has decided for himself..
God bless.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness Now Allow Blood Transfusion But Only Your Own Blood. See How by Janosky: 9:52pm On Mar 20
Lovelink1991:
Go and correct your brochure

Did you view the update #2 Jw broadcast TV video?
No.

Even if you watch the jw video, you don't want anything to debunk the opinion you prefer to stick to.
grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Now Allow Transfusion Of One’s Own Blood by Janosky: 9:48pm On Mar 20
doggedfighter:
Joker

This is serious matter.
Oga, use your data , go and confirm.

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Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Now Allow Transfusion Of One’s Own Blood by Janosky: 9:45pm On Mar 20
Janosky:
Oga, when the law stipulates , "don't take drink or drive under the influence of....." You know what .

When you inject those substances into your body,& drive your car under the influence of" ,have you obeyed the law , "don't drink & drive under influence ?

Just asking for a friend....
grin
IsraeliAIRFORCE:
Stop taking the scriptures out of context. You're not a Hebrew or Greek speaker and never understand the New Testament you quoted. For clarity sake, see...
Acts 15:20 AMPC
But we should send word to them in writing to abstain from and avoid anything that has been polluted by being offered to idols, and all sexual impurity, and [eating meat of animals] that have been strangled, and [tasting of] blood.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Now Allow Transfusion Of One’s Own Blood by Janosky: 9:40pm On Mar 20
doggedfighter:
😁

You ran from the ma*dness 😁
Go and learn about the advances on bloodless medicine,medical professionals acknowledge & eulogise the contributions of JW's for the great impact their beliefs have had on the advancement of medical research & public health .

Dey there dey play.
grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Now Allow Transfusion Of One’s Own Blood by Janosky: 9:33pm On Mar 20
advanceDNA:
Baba…. There was no transfusion in the time when the instruction was given …I'm curious as to why your organization thinks the interpretation of that instruction means dont participate in blood transfusion….
Correct me if im wrong..is it not the same deut 12v23? The context of that verse from the top is pretty clear, talking about eating of animal meat bu not the blood….
Again, im really curious how your organisation arrived at blood transfusion in interpreting a simple verse/chapter??
Oga, when the law stipulates , "don't take drink or drive under the influence of....." You know what .

When you inject those substances into your body,& drive your car under the influence of" ,have you obeyed the law , "don't drink & drive under influence ?

Just asking for a friend....
grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Now Allow Transfusion Of One’s Own Blood by Janosky: 9:18pm On Mar 20
Mariangeles:
When did they come up with this new rule?
Who decided it? Hmm! ooO!
Madam, the answer to your question is on Jw broadcast TV update #2 video.

No allow anyone to deceive you with TikTok or YouTube video.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Now Allow Transfusion Of One’s Own Blood by Janosky: 9:06pm On Mar 20
MaobiCarl:
So Where's the lie in the original post?

Do you guys take blood transfusions before or not?
Is it the scriptures or the governing body that updated the policy on "no blood transfusions" to allow taking your own stored blood through transfusions, today?

The governing body interprets the scriptures for you because you guys have no brains or probably can't read the bible, right?
How did a symbol of life become the essence of life??
This isn't an update but a total change of blood doctrine invented by a drunkard trying not be part of the world
Best advise to you is store up ur blood in a blood bank.. You may need it in the future

I no get your time joor....

If you get liver go & REMOVE JW's broadcast TV Update #2 which referenced the year 2000 Watchtower edition, the same info on the Update #2 video.

Year 2000 to 2026 is 26 years.
Oga, you are deceiving yourself.

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Christianity EtcRe: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 8:52pm On Mar 20
MaxInDHouse:
"Read the Bible" you'll say no!😀
grin grin grin cheesy

Nah motivational lecture from pulpit runs men dey deceive am.
Christianity EtcRe: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 8:50pm On Mar 20
madegreatbygrace:
'And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.'

I John 5:20
"
Pls take note of this sentence of 1 John 5:20.

That we may know Him who is true (Yahweh the only true God)..... This is the true God".

Jesus Christ and John the apostle can NOT contradict themselves.
Any genuine rendition of 1 John 5:20 MUST agree,align with John 17:3 not contradict it
Christianity EtcRe: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 8:43pm On Mar 20
Kobojunkie:
Please stop spamming me with what is obviously bullsheet abeg!
Deuteronomy 10:17
"Yahweh is the God of gods (His sons, Jesus +angels+men).
Psalms 82:6
" Yahweh calls his sons (such as Jesus) gods". Psalms 82:6.
Did Jesus agree with Psalms 82:6 & Deuteronomy 10:17?
Yes, @ John 10:34-36.
Jesus is a god,he said so himself @ John 10:34-36.
Therefore,your Trinitarian copy of John 1:1 nah wash.
Screenshot evidence.

Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness Now Allow Blood Transfusion But Only Your Own Blood. See How by Janosky: 8:32pm On Mar 20
Lovelink1991:
For your information the presenter who explain it on the video is a JW and he read it from the brochure. It has nothing to do with YouTube link but the content from your brochure. You have not watch and correct the wrong or approve it, you are from a far distance condemning it. You are not current about the happenings in JW
Oga, the TikTok video did not emanate from JW's broadcast tv .

I have refered you to the correct Source, Update #2 ,(18 minutes video from JW broadcast tv ) you dey show me TikTok link.

Abeg dey reason well.
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Christianity EtcRe: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 8:24pm On Mar 20
MetalJigsaw:
So you are a god like your master tried to claim in heaven before he was booted out🥱.right?
@ John 10:34-36 did Jesus quote Psalms 82:6 to reference himself as son of God, a god?

Yes.

@ Deuteronomy 10:17, did Yahweh confirm his son/servant is a god, affirming Jesus teaching of Psalms82:6 & John 10:34-36?
Yes.

Oga, go and rest.
Stop deceiving yourself.
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Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Now Allow Transfusion Of One’s Own Blood by Janosky: 8:17pm On Mar 20
excanny:
Bastards from hell. After causing the deaths of thousands of their own members.
Na him way.
JWs owe you nothing
Neither have we offend you .

Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Now Allow Transfusion Of One’s Own Blood by Janosky: 8:15pm On Mar 20
Onyemaboy:
Do I regard the op as an apostate or what? Can he clarify further on the position of the governing body as regards to blood transfusion?
When bloggers want to attract traffic to their webpage, anything goes.
They have no regard for Facts & accuracy of info.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Now Allow Transfusion Of One’s Own Blood by Janosky: 8:13pm On Mar 20
MaobiCarl:
After decades of martyr, public backslash and high mortality among members of named sect. Jehovah's Witnesses conscience or lifestyle directors (Governing body) has finally agreed to let there members accept blood transfusions at point of death.

Although this new update comes with conditions. Blood transfusions is still blood transfusions, whether is your blood, relatives blood or a strangers blood. Will they apologise for thousand of faithful adherents who preferred to die than save there lives medically? No
They've never apologised for deceiving anyone rather they'll blame staunch members for doing too much...

Religion!!



Watch video
https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=share&wtlocale=E&lank=docid-1112024049_1_VIDEO
I have one question for you.
Did the JWs Update #2 broadcast TV video make reference to Watchtower edition of year 2000?
Yes of course.

Oga, you are misleading the public.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness Now Allow Blood Transfusion But Only Your Own Blood. See How by Janosky: 8:09pm On Mar 20
Kalulu44:
If mumu was a person, na dem be that.
Very archaic believe
If we call your belief system "archaic", would you like it?
If we use the exact insult to reference you, would you love it?
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness Now Allow Blood Transfusion But Only Your Own Blood. See How by Janosky: 8:07pm On Mar 20
ExudeLoveToAll:
All of a sudden you now have this interpretation grin , what was your interpretation two years ago? Was it same interpretation if not something is fundamentally wrong with all of you. You guys are lucky you aren't prosecuted for negligence and willfully causing the de.ath of minors. If you hold all these stands for yourself and then you unalived yourself no problem but to do this to a child is barbaric.
Oga, go and watch the 18 minute video on Update 2 from JW broadcast TV & get the correct info.

Pls stop deceiving yourself.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness Now Allow Blood Transfusion But Only Your Own Blood. See How by Janosky: 8:04pm On Mar 20
Dtruthspeaker:
If your jehovah means God, then who in the earth is not a witness of God? Atheists, pagans, boko haramist are all witnesses of God
Do you actually believe this comment you made?
Or you just want to be political correct.

Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness Now Allow Blood Transfusion But Only Your Own Blood. See How by Janosky: 8:01pm On Mar 20
Lovelink1991:
Jehovah witness has change their doctrine concerning blood transfusion which is different from the total refusal.

But the new pattern of receiving the blood transfusion will shock you to your bone marrow.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rATS42wkOJI?si=4bX-KsSJewcbR1Sx
Pls stop misleading the public.
Violation of NL rule 8 &13.

That youtube link is NOT from Jehovah's witnesses .
The author of that channel is not giving you the word for word info from the JW's broadcast TV.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness Now Allow Blood Transfusion But Only Your Own Blood. See How by Janosky: 7:57pm On Mar 20
CJStarz:
But the Mind of Jehovah is not in them!

Oga, nobody has the mind of Jehovah God.
Nobody knows the mind of Jehovah God.
Jesus did not.
Study 1 Corinthians 2:16.
Pls stop deceiving yourself
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness Now Allow Blood Transfusion But Only Your Own Blood. See How by Janosky: 7:56pm On Mar 20
CJStarz:
But the Mind of Jehovah is not in them!
Oga, nobody has the mind of Jehovah God.
Nobody knows the mind of Jehovah God.
Jesus did not.
Study 1 Corinthians 2:16.
Pls stop deceiving yourself
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by Janosky: 9:09pm On Mar 14
MetalJigsaw:
In the same passage, Jesus said he's the Lord of David who is the ancestor of the scibes questioning him.

How Can David Call His Descendant Lord?

#35 Then Jesus answered and said, while He taught in the temple, “How is it that the scribes say that the Christ is the Son of David?

#36 For David himself said by the Holy Spirit:

‘The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” ’

#37 Therefore David himself calls Him ‘Lord’; how is He then his Son?”

Jesus is God along with the Father John 17 v 5

John 17:5 reads: "And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.


This verse marks the end of Jesus' earthly ministry, as He prays for the restoration of His pre-incarnate, eternal glory and divine fellowship with the Father.


Key Details About John 17:5:
Context: This is part of Jesus' "High Priestly Prayer" in the Upper Room Discourse, just before His crucifixion.

Significance: It highlights Christ's divinity, pre-existence, and the Trinity, as He existed before creation.

Jesus is obviously not asking for new glory, but rather the full
The glory in John 17:5,7 is shared by the disciple, God and Jesus at John 17:22.
Jesus said "I have given them (disciples) the glory you have given me " (in John 17:5,7).
Oga, your claim is not true.
According to John 17:22,Jesus , the disciples and God are one" sharing the same glory.
Or
Do you have more knowledge than Jesus Christ?
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by Janosky: 8:44pm On Mar 14
MetalJigsaw:
In other words, no answer.
There is nowhere in the Bible that states that, correct? You're just adding your own monologue.

If we claim to be a Christian We need to be as honest as we can when it comes to God's word. The truth should always come first.

Jesus is our great God!. Titus 2:13
Oga,the older English bible translations did not make that false claims you are assuming.
See the evidence listed here.
These Bibles are older than the KJV .
cheesy

Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God, and our Savior Jesus Christ;

Early Modern
Geneva Bible of 1587
Looking for that blessed hope, and appearing of that glorie of that mightie God, and of our Sauiour Iesus Christ,

Bishops' Bible of 1568
Lokyng for that blessed hope and appearyng of the glorie of the great God, and our sauiour Iesus Christe,

Coverdale Bible of 1535
lokynge for that blessed hope and appearynge of the glory of ye greate God and of oure Sauioure Iesu Christ:

Tyndale Bible of 1526
lokinge for that blessed hope and glorious apperenge of ye myghty god and of oure savioure Iesu Christ."

Other bible versions (including the Catholic bible versions (core trinitarians,do not support your claim.)


Smith's Literal Translation
Expecting the blessed hope, and appearance of the glory of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
Looking for the blessed hope and coming of the glory of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ,

Catholic Public Domain Version
looking forward to the blessed hope and the advent of the glory of the great God and of our Savior Jesus Christ.

New American Bible
as we await the blessed hope, the appearance of the glory of the great God and of our savior Jesus Christ,

New Revised Standard Version
while we wait for the blessed hope and the manifestation of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by Janosky: 8:39pm On Mar 14
MaxInDHouse:
Angels are God's sons and Jesus is one of them that is what the Bible teaches consistently!
Yes . Very true.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by Janosky: 7:27pm On Mar 09
Dtruthspeaker:
Clear proof that they know that they are liars
Oga Speaker ploy to save face.
You know your claim is not true grin cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by Janosky: 7:24pm On Mar 09
MaxInDHouse:
As you are not Adeboye or Kumuyi or Olukoya ọmọ you no get holy ghost!🤣
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My Bro,you understand how these folks reason.

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