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Religion / Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 1:10am
KNOWMORE56:


"...Who are they that brought Jesus CLOSE to Jehovah

Why would Jesus who was with Jehovah, have the same glory with Jehovah, joined Jehovah to create other things, who knows jehovah more than anybody will still have to GAIN ACCESS and be brought CLOSE to Jehovah..."


You are really tormenting these guys... ;D cheesy

In Daniel 7:13-14, who are "THEY"?
Why would Jesus be brought close to JEHOVAH when KNOWMORE56 & Emusan been saying Jesus is Jehovah?
Bros, Do you really understand that you have ridiculed your Trinity GIBBERISH? grin cheesy

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Religion / Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫ Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Janosky: 12:54am
Bishopkingsley:


No place you will see Jehovah witness in Bible no wonder no one joins JW even though they think their name is God's name lol the number of people joining your cult is reducing each day lol

Isaiah 43:10-12, Acts 15:14,17 (ASV)
Please continue LYING & WAILING grin
Religion / Re: Why I Do Not Mourn The Death Of Paul Yonggi Cho By Deji Yesufu by Janosky: 12:49am
VBCampaign:
Why I Do Not Mourn the Death of Paul Yonggi Cho

The death of popular South Korean Pastor, Paul Yonggi Cho, was announced yesterday, Tuesday, 14th September, 2021. Cho was 85 years old and had been pastor of Yoido Full Gospel Church in Seoul, South Korea. This church is regarded as the assembly with the largest congregation in the world. While Nigeria churches may boast of the largest church auditoriums in the world, the church that has the largest number of members is the one that Cho led. Cho was a Pentecostal pastor who preached a full blown prosperity gospel and was one of those who popularized the brand in Asia and even went on to have long lasting influence on Christians here in Africa and Nigeria in particular.

It is because of the gospel that Cho preached that I refrain this day from mourning his death. I do not celebrate his death either and I would rather use the occasion of his passing to remind those who believe the gospel Cho preached that they do not believe the Christian message and if they were to pass from earth to eternity, the message they have laid their soul on as anchor might not be able to save them from the wrath of God coming on men’s unbelief.

Death is a leveler and Solomon reminded us of the benefit of death when he said that it is better to go to the house of mourning than to the house of feasting (Ecclesiastes7:2). He said that when people have occasion to mourn, it tends to make their minds dwell on healthy matters – especially things that concern the eternal state of their souls. It will compel those who are not Christians to have another opportunity to find peace with God.

On the other hand, the house of feasting is a place where the pleasures of the flesh are pandered to and the ease that come with such an environment will usually not make people think uprightly. Yet it is appointed unto every man to die and those who are wise will weigh carefully their relationship with God while they still have breath. This is the reason why as a blogger I will continue to use the occasion of the death of popular persons, who pushed certain ideologies, good or bad, to remind all of us of the eternal consequences of those ideas. And, certainly, when I die I am sure somebody out there will examine my beliefs and consider, according to scripture and the life I lived, whether I would be spending eternity with Christ or with the devil and his demons.

When I became a Christian in 1998, I developed a deep hunger for Christian literatures. I read everything I could lay my hands on that espoused the name Christianity. I am thankful to God that the Lord carefully directed some helpful materials my way in those days. Unfortunately there were others that were not too helpful – in fact downright cultic. One of them was Paul Yonggi Cho’s book called the “The Fourth Dimension”. In this book, the South Korean man wrote about how Christianity came to their country through the efforts of Western missionaries. He talked about how he survived an illness and then how he eventually built the church that is today regarded as the church with the largest congregation.

In this book, Cho taught a doctrine that said essentially that a person can get whatever he wants if he would only learn the art of visualization. He explained how this technique of visualization can be combined with the Christian practice of prayer, along with positive confessions, to receive whatever you wanted in life. The book was replete with his own personal stories and those of other people who use these technique to receive health and wealth into their lives.

It was not until some years after that I discovered that the doctrine that Cho was teaching was an arm of the heretical Word of Faith (WoF) message. Cho will however take an aspect of the WoF, positive confession, and extend it into the visualization technique that he taught in his book. This doctrine is actually an arm of the very cultic teaching called the New Thought that was developed in the 19th century by men like Phinehas Quimby but was Christianized by E. W. Kenyon in the early 20th century. It is a technique that is taught in many New Age books and if they are utilized properly, do actually bring adherents a lot of wealth – and health too. What Cho and others do not tell their adherents is that these doctrines are not taught in the Bible and the mere fact that they produce result is not enough for anyone to regard them as Christian.

Christian doctrines exhume essentially from the pages of the Bible. If a doctrine is being espoused and cannot be defended by the truth of the Word of God, that doctrine, regardless of what result it brings, is not of God. Also, if a doctrine is being taught by any so called minister and cannot be traced to what believers taught in the past, that doctrine is essentially a doctrine of demons. There is nothing new in the Christian faith; after two thousand years of its existence, there are no new arguments or doctrines in the body of Christ. When New Thoughts emerged in the 19th century, Christians had every reason to be wary of it. When it transformed to Word of Faith in the 20th century, there was a lot more reason to beware of this message.[/b]

A final test of whether a doctrine is sound or not is if it narrows down to the message of salvation for sinners and if it leads those who believe it to take the matter of godliness or personal sanctification very seriously. The doctrines of Christ leads hearers to develop a sense of awe for God, which leads those who are rebelling against him to repent of their sins and lay faith on his Holy Son, Jesus Christ.

The doctrines of Christ will lead men always to a healthy comprehension of the matter of salvation. It will help believers to worship God for the faith they have received in Christ and compel them to live holy. The doctrines that Cho espoused leads adherents to look as God as a genie: an idol that gives them all their heart desires. It is almost never about salvation. These doctrines also lead adherents to living lives that dishonor God with the avalanche of scandals that follow them.

Cho himself only recently escaped conviction by a court of law in South Korea, having been involved in a business deal which his son led and which led to the defrauding of innocent people of their hard earned resources. Cho’s son was convicted and sentenced to jail; while the father, though convicted, was pardoned by the judge because of his long term contribution to social matters in the society through his ministry and church.

Cho has concluded his life and ministry and is at the moment before the judgment seat of Christ receiving his reward, good or bad, for what he has believed and taught in the nations when he was alive. Cho wrote a lot of other books but it is his “Fourth Dimension” that is most known among Christians and the false doctrines espoused on those pages are still being propagated in churches around the world today. This is the reason I do not mourn his passing. Instead I bemoan the thousands of souls that are continually deceived by the message in his books and I pray that many of such persons can get to the point in their understanding of God of renouncing their beliefs in the doctrines that Paul Yonggi Cho and others like him preach.

© Deji Yesufu

Source: https://textandpublishing.com/why-i-do-not-mourn-the-death-of-paul-yonggi-cho/

His mentees are the gods of men running the show in this clime.
If you observe closely, Paul Yonggi Cho’s message & 9ja Pastorpreneurs message is more like six & half dozen- same branded message but different labels, for effizy & packaging.
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Religion / Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Janosky: 12:36am
Bishopkingsley:


Funny how can a former Muslim a lost soul say he was once like me lol

Is that not lack of respect for the truth

Islam hate Jesus
You converted to Christianity yet you carry that hate to JW don't you see how lost you are

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The original pronunciation was lost so we believe

Answer
Now the devil probably told you that the original pronunciation was lost is that not idea from Satan

Because that never in the original Greek word never was Jehovah used there so it devil idea to assume original pronunciation was lost but as a former Muslim that you are they decieved you

The bible warn don't put idea as God word
Repent

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I believe Jesus' statement against yours Bishop TRINITY!

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If Jesus comes now and ask you you will say it Bishopkingsley that wrote

Matthew 28:19 ►
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,


Are you not showing how you hate Jesus by saying he did not write it that it Bishopkingsley that wrote it in your new world translation Bible

Bishop, carry your WAILING upandan with archaic GIBBERISH into the dustbin.
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Religion / Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Janosky: 12:30am
achorladey:


[b]When all others are SCATTERED with their contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines[/b]!..... MaxInDHouse


The scattered teachings and doctrines within your own very religious group is enough to scatter all other 42000 religious group paapaa.

An excerpts from how those scattered doctrines and teachings look like is captured in the post above and the mentality within your religious organisation concerning the name JEHOVAH captured as below from someone......

"For me it has been a long standing contradiction that God has clearly preserved this name in copies of Hebrew manuscripts so that it could be restored in the O.T. and yet was somehow unable or unwilling to do the same for the more recent Greek manuscripts of the N.T".


Continue DECEIVING yourself & enjoy your delusion with October 1926 mentality when the truth has left you far behind.

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Religion / Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Janosky: 12:17am
achorladey:


Look for this words numbered 1 and 2 in bold in the picture below coming from the only revered Bible scholar in the history of the ORGANIZATION WTBTS.....

1. “It no doubt causes wonderment that God’s name, viz., JEHOVAH, does not occur in the New Testament, and neither Jesus nor His apostles are recorded as taking the name in their lips. In writing the New Testament in Greek, the writers of the gospels and epistles evidently followed the Greek Septuagint Version of the Old Testament, which also does not use the name Jehovah but uses the word “Kurios”, Lord, in translating the name Jehovah from the Hebrew text. “

2. “The Lord unquestionably arranged the omission of His name “Jehovah” from the New Testament, and has permitted the Christian churches throughout this era to overlook God’s outstanding name. “

You will see how far they can go to manipulate their words and members.

Point to note.....

1. neither Jesus nor His apostles are recorded as taking the name in their lips. In writing the New Testament in Greek, the writers of the gospels and epistles evidently followed the Greek Septuagint Version of the Old Testament, which also does not use the name Jehovah but uses the word “Kurios”, Lord, in translating the name Jehovah from the Hebrew text. “

2. The Lord unquestionably arranged the omission of His name “Jehovah” from the New Testament


That second point na serious laughing matter since God unquestionably have it omitted. Then, they should tell us when the Lord unquestionably want it returned back to the new testament.


The original Hebrew name of God re-discovered in 1,000 Bible manuscripts
On January 21, 2018, Bible Scholar Nehemia Gordon and his team of researchers discovered the 1,000th Hebrew Bible manuscript containing the original name of God in Hebrew with vowels.

January 25, 2018
By Religion News LLC

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On January 21, 2018, Bible Scholar Nehemia Gordon and his team of researchers discovered the 1,000th Hebrew Bible manuscript containing the original name of God in Hebrew with vowels.

For two hundred years, scholars have believed based on Greek sources and conjecture that the Hebrew name of God was originally pronounced “Yahweh.” In late 2016, Gordon found never-translated traditional Jewish sources that explicitly identified the vowels of God’s name in Hebrew as “Yehovah.” This is similar to the English Jehovah, but with a “Y” and the emphasis on the final syllable.

God’s name, known as the Tetragrammaton, is written in most Hebrew Bible manuscripts with one of its vowels missing, making it unreadable in accordance with an ancient Jewish ban on speaking the name. Despite this, Gordon had previously discovered five Bible manuscripts with a full set of Hebrew vowels proving the pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton was known to Jewish scribes as “Yehovah.”

The project to find new evidence corroborating this discovery, began in February 2017 and in less than one year Gordon found 1,000 more Hebrew Bible manuscripts with the full vowels “Yehovah.” These included the two earliest known Hebrew Bible manuscripts with vowels, Russian National Library, Evr. II B 100 from the year 894 AD and the Cairo Codex of the Prophets from 895 AD. Gordon and his team also found the vowels “Yehovah” in three manuscripts written with the lost “Babylonian Pointing,” discovered in the Cairo Genizah in 1896."



Achorladey, SHAME ON YOU!!!
3 doghead worshippers, denying God's name, SHAME ON YOU!!!


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Religion / Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Janosky: 12:04am
Bishopkingsley:


Lol that fake Bible see real Bible

Mark 12:29 ►

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

New Living Translation
Jesus replied, “The most important commandment is this: ‘Listen, O Israel! The Lord our God is the one and only Lord .

English Standard Version
Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

Berean Study Bible
Jesus replied, “This is the most important: ‘Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One.

Berean Literal Bible
Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'Hear this O Israel: The Lord our God is One Lord,

King James Bible
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

New King James Version
Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God, the LORD is one.

New American Standard Bible
Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘HEAR, ISRAEL! THE LORD IS OUR GOD, THE LORD IS ONE;

NASB 1995
Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD;

So it Bishopkingsley that said

Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

Only God can help you

John 17:6,26 & John 5:43, Jesus have made his Father's name known"

Jesus proven that he would NEVER use "Lord" at Mark 12:29.

Bishop DECEIVING himself grin
Religion / Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Janosky: 11:55pm On Sep 17
Bishopkingsley:

Another claim of the Watchtower Society about their New World Translation (the Jehovah's Witnesses Bible) is that it is pure and consistent:
In presenting this translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures our confidence has been in the help of the great Author of The Book. Our primary desire has been to seek, not the approval of men, but that of God, by rendering the truth of his inspired Word as purely and as consistently as our consecrated powers make possible.(9)
But when we check the Greek word translated worship when used for Jesus, it is rendered obeisance, but worship at other times! As previously shown, we see an attack on the identity of the Lord. Where exactly did the New World Translation inconsistently translate the Greek word meaning worship?
In Mt. 2:11; 14:33; 28:9; 28:17 the Greek word is translated obeisance because it refers to the Lord Jesus, but when the same exact Greek word is used at Rev. 5:14; 7:11; 11:16; 19:4; 20:4 and Jn. 4:20 it is rendered worshiped because it doesn't refer to Jesus.
Freshboi88 has been DECEIVING himself & WAILING upandan on Nairaland.
"Revelation 5:13-14 ,"it is rendered worship because it does NOT refer to Jesus"

Cc:
Freshboi88,
Emusan,
Bishop & all his alter ego,
Nancy2020
Achorladey
KNOWMORE56 and all Trinitarian WAILERS.
Shame on you !!!!
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Religion / Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Janosky: 11:31pm On Sep 17
Bishopkingsley:


God does not have one name because he put his name on all languages you can call him by any name you want to that how God get his ultimate glory from knowing all tribes and nations worship him in their dialect

Psalms 83:18 & Exodus 6:3 , dey your KJV Bible?
Continue DECEIVING yourself.
Religion / Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Janosky: 11:23pm On Sep 17
Bishopkingsley:
Another claim of the Watchtower Society about their New World Translation (the Jehovah's Witnesses Bible) is that it is pure and consistent:
In presenting this translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures our confidence has been in the help of the great Author of The Book. Our primary desire has been to seek, not the approval of men, but that of God, by rendering the truth of his inspired Word as purely and as consistently as our consecrated powers make possible.(9)

But when we check the Greek word translated worship when used for Jesus, it is rendered obeisance, but worship at other times! As previously shown, we see an attack on the identity of the Lord. Where exactly did the New World Translation inconsistently translate the Greek word meaning worship?
In Mt. 2:11; 14:33; 28:9; 28:17 the Greek word is translated obeisance because it refers to the Lord Jesus, but when the same exact Greek word is used at Rev. 5:14; 7:11; 11:16; 19:4; 20:4 and Jn. 4:20 it is rendered worshiped because it doesn't refer to Jesus.

The same inconsistency is shown at Jn. 9:38 and Mk.5:6. It is translated obeisance when referring to Jesus, but worship at Heb. 11:21 when it doesn't refer to Jesus.

Moreover, the same Greek word is found at Mt. 2:2; Rev. 22:8 and Rev. 19:10. At Mt. 2:2, when Jesus is the recipient, obeisance is again used, but in the other two Scriptures, when the Lord is not the recipient, worship is found! Jesus was worshiped in Scripture by Christians, but the Jehovah's Witnesses aren't allowed to worship him!

JW before believe that Jesus should be worshiped

Acts 10:25 "When Peter entered, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet and worshiped (prosekynēsen | προσεκύνησεν |) him"

Bishop, Acts 10:25 doesn't refer to Jesus.
Did Cornelius worship Peter?
Religion / Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Janosky: 4:20pm On Sep 17
Bishopkingsley:


You know I don't entertain insult when you become civil call me

Brings into Existence Whatever Exists” , how many persons is the "HE"?
Bishop dodging question.

When you copy and paste GIBBERISH without giving credit to the authors, are you civil?


Copy copy thief thief cheesy

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Religion / Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Janosky: 4:16pm On Sep 17
Bishopkingsley:

#1
Several differences between the NWT and legitimate translations include the following: The NWT has the Greek term word “staurós” (“cross”) as “torture stake”.

#2
It leaves out the words “sheol,” “hades,” “gehenna,” and “tartarus”, where other translations translate some, or all, of these as “hell” (JW’s do not believe in hell).

#3
The NWT uses “presence” as for the Greek “Parousia” instead of “coming” (JW’s believe that Christ returned in the early 1900’s). In contrast with the translators’ stated goals, these differences clearly represent “sectarian religious coloration.”

These might be laughable except that the NWT goes much farther with its mistranslation than this. The most important of these is how God is treated.

The Divine Name

The most noticeable change in the Watchtower Bible, and one they cite as proving its superiority, is the insertion of the name “Jehovah” over 200 times in the New Testament.

This word is allegedly a transliteration of the Hebrew tetragrammaton YHWH– although it does not appear in any Greek manuscripts. They claim that this “restoration” of the divine name (i.e., “Jehovah”) is required to worship God in truth (although Hebrew has no letters that would transliterate to a “J”!).

They fail to see God has many different names in the Bible and revelation shows God has a name which no one knows, and God has a new name we will call him in the world to come.

JW told you there is no hell fire guess that is the place those who reject Jesus end up those who don't believe Jesus is God Almighty are sent their to receive great torment in the lake of fire

#1
Wetin concern Greek stauros, upright pole with your pagan traverse beam you label "Cross"?

#2
Mark 9:43 NWT, "Gehenna"
2 Peter 2:4 NWT " Tartarus"
Bishop is a LIENUS grin .
Sheoll/Hades = grave.
Greek Parousia meaning 'prescence' , it's not debatable.

Bishop LIENUS says Gehenna is torture chamber of hellfire , this Bros, you need medication? grin

Jeremiah, Jude, Jonah, Joshua are Bible names in that Bible you carry upandan yet you no get shame dey vex we call JEHOVAH with a letter 'J'.
Bishop LIENUS Is a proven hypocrite
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Religion / Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Janosky: 3:50pm On Sep 17
Bishopkingsley:


This is the same topic

The problem with you you don't even know the meaning of Jehovah

Jehovah definition is - God

Jehovah is a Latin name for God

Thus, the tetragrammaton became the artificial Latinized name Jehovah (JeHoWaH). ... The meaning of the personal name of the Israelite God has been variously interpreted. Many scholars believe that the most proper meaning may be “He Brings into Existence Whatever Exists” (Yahweh-Asher-Yahweh).
So we are not talking about just the father so when we say Jesus is Jehovah what it means is Jesus is God




So you are confused as usual the father is God that why we can say Jehovah is the father of Jesus

Hope you now understand this things that confuse your brain

Only when you understand the father has a special work the son has his the holy spirit has his own

Just like your body has his own work your soul has his own work your own spirit has his own work but all three is what makes you a man

Many scholars believe that the most proper meaning may be “He Brings into Existence Whatever Exists” (Yahweh-Asher-Yahweh).

Bishop LIENUS, who is the "HE"?
How many persons is the "HE" who "Brings into Existence Whatever Exists” ?



Something is seriously wrong with your brain grin grin
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Religion / Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 1:12am On Sep 15
livingchrist:
you are pained! Jesus is Almighty God.


KNOWMORE56, Emusan, Bishop LIENUS are confused by the Trinity GIBBERISH.
"By saying that Jesus Christ and the Father are the same person- God Almighty you are making Jesus a LIAR"
The screenshot evidence proven Trinity robbed their SENSE grin grin

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Religion / Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 1:08am On Sep 15
KNOWMORE56:


They are just trying hard to see if they can deceive more people... but unfortunately to them, the more they try the more they are losing
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Mr cherry picker DECEIVING himself grin

Your LYING keeps piling up on this forum.
We know Proverbs 8:22,30 is causing you sifia pains .

You copied the deceit of your Trinity mentors to DUBIOUSLY exclude Colossians 1:15 Greek ktisma "Creature" from your KJV lexicon grin grin

Matthew 24:36 you lied " the Father doesn't know"

Bros, you want more?
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Religion / Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 12:59am On Sep 15
Bishopkingsley:
What about Jesus' repeated use of "I AM" -- "I am the shepherd"; "I am the door"; "I am the truth"; "I am the way; I am the life; I am the vine; I am the resurrection and the life; I am the root and offspring of David, and the Bright Morning Star"? Would not each of those "I am" statements have reminded His Jewish listeners of the "I AM" statement by God to Moses in the desert?
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Shame on you!
John 20:17 where is your "I am" going to?
John 20:17, your "I am" is ascending to meet who?
Bishopkingsley:

Jesus was crucified because the Jews understood him to be saying he was God. To them that was blasphemy and as a result they engineered his crucifixion.
His disciples understood what Jesus was saying as well.
John 10:35-36 Jesus Christ proven you're LYING.
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Bishopkingsley:

That's why they picked up the Old Testament Hebrew word Adonai which is usually translated into English as "Lord" and used it for Jesus. The use of Lord as a title for Jesus when that same word is used a few hundred times in the Old Testament as a title for Yahweh makes a strong statement for Jesus' divinity.

False claims.

Read the preface of your Bible and receive SENSE grin
Bishopkingsley:

;In John 20:18 Mary Magdalene is quoted as saying, "I have seen the Lord." In Greek, she uses the word -- "kurios"-- which is clearly used of God the Father in Acts 7:31: "The voice of the Lord came to Moses."

Kurios is also the same word used for God the Father in such passages as Philippians 4:5, 2 Corinthians 8:21, 1 Thessalonians 3:3, 2 Timothy 2:24, Hebrews 13:6, 1 Peter 1:25, 1 Peter 2:3, 2 Peter 3:9, James 1:7, James 4:10, and Revelation 4:11.

When Paul refers to Jesus over and over again as Lord (the same word in Exodus 3:35 which you quoted), it is clear that he understood Jesus to be saying He was God (for Paul, there is only "one Lord

Ephesians 1:3, 2 Corinthians 11:31.
Receive SENSE.
Bishopkingsley:

We in the 21st century can try to rationalize away the Early Christians' conviction that Jesus of Nazareth was God incarnate. However, it is clear that Jesus' followers used the title "Lord" for Him in the same way that they used "Lord" for God the Father. In his writing, John especially emphasizes the deity of Christ. Sit down and read all the way through the Gospel of John and his three letters in one sitting. If you do that rather than just focusing on isolated scraps of Scripture, you will come away with the sense that John is intent on demonstrating that Jesus was indeed God.

Your Trinitarian mentors stuck to the Jewish claim the name should not be used because it's too holy for mortals, as excuse to omit the use of God's holy name whenever they quoted from the old testament.

John 17:6,26 did Jesus make his Father's name known?
Religion / Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 12:25am On Sep 15
KNOWMORE56:



You guys can make people laugh...
Nobody in English often refers to human being. You should have used NOTHING instead because Jesus is called the LOIN OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH in that place

This NOBODY is outside the Father, SON and Holy Spirit...
You have agreed with the KJV...

Let's see what happens there:

*. Revelations 5 :3 " KJV:And no man in heaven , nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
4
KJV:And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
5
KJV:And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, THE LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. "

Now, using the same logic:
every CREATURE in verse 13 of revelations 5 should have included Jesus since you claim He is created

Greek: κτίσμα
Transliteration: ktisma
Pronunciation: ktis'-mah
Definition: From G2936; an original formation (concretely) that is product (created thing): - creature.
KJV Usage: creature ([/b]4x).
Occurs: 4
In verses: 4


Why is Jesus not included?

[b]

LIAR grin

Did you exclude Colossians 1:15?
This Bros, DECEIVING himself. grin
I challenge you to quote the KJV verses with Greek ktisma.
You DUBIOUSLY claim 4 whereas it includes Colossians 1:15.
KNOWMORE56 and his Trinity mentors they will not make heaven.
Their way no pure

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Religion / Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 12:21am On Sep 15
KNOWMORE56:


Your answer means the Father was working and Jesus was watching cheesy grin grin




*. Proverbs 8:27 "KJV: When He (the Father) prepared the heavens, I (Jesus) was there:

When He (the Father) prepared the heavens, I (Jesus) was there:
The screenshot of Proverbs 8:30 proven
You don't love the truth, Mr cherry picker.
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Religion / Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 12:17am On Sep 15
KNOWMORE56:


John 16:14 "KJV:He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of MINE , and shall shew it unto you.
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KJV: All things that the Father hath are MINE : therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you."

Jesus said ALL ( not some) are mine!

He said that the Holy Spirit shall RECEIVE...
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John 17:7 , 1 Corinthians 3:23
If KNOWMORE56 will receive SENSE. grin grin
Religion / Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 12:14am On Sep 15
KNOWMORE56:
Can you ,barristter07, point out any quality of the true God that is missing in Jesus...

https://www.nairaland.com/6404492/characteristics-true-god.
: The Characteristics Of The True God by KNOWMORE56: 1:20am On Feb 08
*. One of the laws in mathematics says if 1(one) is multiplied by itself it remains the same, i.e 1×1×1= 1.

John 16:28 "I CAME FORTH from the Father..."

In my understanding He is saying " I multiplied/increased/project from the Father"

The 1st one(1) is one, 2nd one(1) is one and the 3rd one(1) is one. the same
Whatever description you give to any of them, the same is true for the rest.

This is the law that qualifies Jesus as the true God!

Let's see some of the qualities of the true God:

1. Creator
2. Power
3. Omniscient
4. Everlasting
5. Receiving worship
6. Judge of all
7. Love
8. Life
1
Did Jesus create his Father?
Is the first born of every creature of God a creature?
1 Corinthians 8:6, Matthew 19:4-6, John 15:15, Jesus was taught only his Father is the Creator.

2.
Matthew 28:18, Was his Father ever given power?

3.
Only the Father knows, Matthew 24:36.
If you have to, KNOWMORE56 go and twist any verse you want.


4
Matthew 27:43,46, What is everlasting about your deity killed by men ?
Was his God & Father ever killed?

5.
Matthew 4:10 & Revelation 3:12, Jesus proven you're wrong.
As usual, twist any verse you can conjure grin

6.
Who made Jesus a judge of all?

John 17:7, who gave Jesus life?

Bros, continue DECEIVING yourself. grin

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Religion / Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 11:48pm On Sep 14
freshboi88:
You people are wasting your time trying to reason with these JW guys. They are taught never to accept anything u guys say......

They have been brainwashed. Talking to them is like talking to a boko haram.

When u want to witness to them to make dem know that they are worshipping a false Jehovah, because the real Jehovah is a triune God, you ask them questions that their doctrine cannot answer.

Nd u pick those verses from the their new world translation.

An example verse is Rev 5:13-14. When u ask them questions on this verses. They will do only three things as we all saw when I was debating them

1. Quote scriptures that don't correspond to the verse.... In this case ask them to stick to the verse

2. Give ridiculous answers like when one of them was trying to change the verse saying it wasnt referring to all creatures but only intelligent creatures......clearly that's not in the verse

3. Run away battered n severed.

When u have done this allow God do the rest


Now that's how to witness to a JW


You no even get conscience, LYING without shame.
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Religion / Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 11:43pm On Sep 14
KNOWMORE56:


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No one knows the day this means the Father also doesn't know.... cheesy grin

Mathew 24:36 "KJV:But of that day and hour knoweth no man , no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

Be honest with yourself.
Did your Bible @ Matthew 24:36 say "the Father also doesn't know"?


Matthew 24:36 "KJV:But of that day and hour knoweth no man , no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."
"

Una dey see this Bros, KNOWMORE56?
KNOWMORE56 will quote the Bible and say whatever suits his fancy and TWIST the Bible Truth.

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Religion / Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 11:28pm On Sep 14
Bishopkingsley:
JW tell me which line of thought do Christians follow the Bible own or the GB own

John 20:17 did Jesus worship your 3 Gods?

This Bishop, the 3 Gods Polytheist no even get shame to call himself "Christian" as if Jesus worship their 3 Gods.

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Religion / Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 11:21pm On Sep 14
Bishopkingsley:
Peter declared war on all forms of Judaism (Acts 3:11-26), declaring at the entrance to the temple that only Messianic Judaism had the true interpretation of the OT scrolls with Jesus as the Jewish Messiah.

He declared Jesus was the only NAME by which people can be saved. To the Jewish leaders (Sanhedrin), Yahweh Jehovah YHVH was the only NAME. So Peter is attributing divinity to Jesus (blasphemy in their minds).
So Peter was actually saying is Jesus is God Almighty because only Jehovah can save.

This is reminiscent of John 10 where on Chanukah (Feast of Dedication) Jesus declares the same thing. Peter further promised to disobey them about preaching what they considered to be blasphemy and heresy.

The early group of believers now had targets on their backs and had to group together in survival mode and pool their resources together because they rebelled against the old testament by saying Jesus is the Savior

The book of acts showed God's hand was truly on this Christians, the Messianic Jewish resistance movement and after Acts 10 the Gentiles even became partakers of the rich olive tree (Rom 11).

So your line of thought in JW is not in line with the Apostles because all the Apostle say Jesus is our Savior while you refuse to acknowledge Jesus

Says the Bishop LIENUS wey jakpa because of 1 John 4:9,14-15 proven his Antichrist status.

1 John 4:3,9-14-15 rejected Jesus is Almighty FALSE claims of the Antichrist.

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Religion / Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 11:13pm On Sep 14
MaxInDHouse:

Common sense is enough to know that if something is written and there's no one who can READ it, definitely it's a message for anybody but not the writer!

So whoever is able to read it couldn't have been the writer because he is also included among the beneficiaries of the message! undecided
Trinity GIBBERISH robbed their SENSE..
It's a confirmed fact on this public forum. grin cheesy

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Religion / Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 11:11pm On Sep 14
Bishopkingsley:


The person or their mouth piece is always saying wrong things without reading Bible very well lol

The evidences are in abundance that you Bishop LIENUS is DECEIVING yourself.
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Religion / Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 11:08pm On Sep 14
KNOWMORE56:


I think you meant to say these verses are mistakes. See them again:


The word opposite of begotten son is adopted son .

This should give us a clear understanding of the area this [b] BEGOTTEN SON is going - it's in regards to the salvation plans for humanity;[/b] all other saved human beings are ADOPTED SONS :

Jesus is the only begotten son :

*. John 3 16 "KJV:For God so loved the world, that he gave his ONLY BEGOTTEN SON , that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

ONLY means NO OTHER one!
others are adopted sons
:

*. Romans 8:15 "KJV:For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of ADOPTION, whereby we cry, Abba, Father."

*. Romans 8:23 "KJV:And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the ADOPTION , to wit, the redemption of our body ."

*. Romans 9:4 "KJV:Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the ADOPTION , and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;"

". Galatians 4:5 "KJV:To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the ADOPTION of sons . "

*. Ephesians 1:5 "KJV: Having predestinated us unto the ADOPTION of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,"

John 3:16 "KJV:For God so loved the world, that he gave his ONLY BEGOTTEN SON"

Jesus is the Father's only begotten son in the spiritual realm before the Father gave his son to the world. John 8:38.
Receive SENSE & cure your Trinitarian DELUSION.

The First born of every creature is the only begotten son, the first creature of God his Father
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You understand the difference between begotten son and adopted son, yet you carry your Trinitarian DELUSION like gala.
Point of Emphasis:
Every begotten son is a direct offspring of his Father. Jesus is a direct offspring of God his Father.
All other sons came after Jesus Christ.

Bros help yourself.
Cure your DELUSION. grin cheesy grin grin
Religion / Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Janosky: 7:26pm On Sep 12
MightySparrow:


Are you now in the position of Jesus?

If not are you afraid of truth?
JWs copy that practice of Jesus. grin

Do Pastorpreneurs have the truth?
Do sheeples of Pastorpreneurs have truth?
Religion / Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Janosky: 6:08pm On Sep 12
MightySparrow:


#1
No one denomination claims to be perfect other than JWs. When cornered, you change the goal post
. Why don't you answer questions directly?

Which denomination brags the most on Nairaland? In your Watchtower, it about self gratification, condemning Christians dead or alive who had laboured and kept the faith. Some died defending their faith. Yours is a gospel of condemnation , making yourselves judges

You are simply deluded. Wake up!

#1
Bros Sparrow, you are LYING.
JWs screenshot evidence disproven your FALSE claim.

#2.
John 3:16,36 , Jesus Christ & John rejected the faith of your 3 Gods devotees & Pastorpreneurs
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Religion / Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Janosky: 5:41pm On Sep 12
MightySparrow:


Never, I put questions for anyone to contribute. I have always believe and maintains my stand that JWs do not understand Christianity. No matter how many billions you spend on publications[b]. Most people I have had discussions with are not sincere when confronted with questions. The same with MaxInDHouse, he dodges questions or not definite in given answers. I am not so bothered, I have met quite a number of you[/b].
The best answer I have got this far is ' New Light.' How many people have been misled by old light? Keep your knowledge to yourselves.


In your own Bible, did Jesus Christ answer every question he was asked?
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Religion / Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Janosky: 5:38pm On Sep 12
MightySparrow:


JWs hasn't anything to teach me. The get confused and go into charms. If your God is not sufficient, how do you claim to have faith. If your members male and female abscond from marriages, how do you convince me of sanctity of marriage? I see hypocrisy in your claims. Not to talk of doctrines your GB subtly abandoned.
Your problem is laziness to probe to your past. You are blind followers of confused people.

Sparrow, you are DECEIVING yourself grin

If not,your Pastorpreneurs appointment of their wives as business co- partners wouldn't confuse you to elicit responses on a public forum.

We know our past, it is not picture perfect.
In your own Bible ,none of Jehovah's servant is perfect.
Jehovah God abandoned His doctrine of animals sacrifices in your own Bible.

Jehovah abandoned His doctrine of Jews as His only chosen servants.
Bros, what's your problem?


If you claim your Adamic brother practices spiritism, are all servants of Jehovah doing so?

If you claim some "abscond from marriages", is it a crime to divorce (in your own words
"abscond"wink for a scripturally valid reason?

Even at that, were you living with any married JW couple who separated & you knew everything in their respective marriages?

Bros, your PFN Pastorpreneurs recently married an adulterous woman & some of them seduce married women living outside their matrimonial homes with pastorship positions in some of their business franchises.
Some of them are famous for brolosho activities.
2 Timothy 3:5-7.

Bros, go & clean up the pollution in your midst before you can see the specks of JWs.
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Religion / Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Janosky: 11:26pm On Sep 10
Nancy2020:
MaxInDHouse you know that you are demon possessed.
You are so caught up with Bishopkingsley.
He literally has taken hold of your mind.
You can't live without him.
Ask yourself why you are so consumed on him that any one who rise up against you you tag him Bishopkingsley.
He lives in your mind so continue to focus on him. One thing is for sure you will receive my abuse in your soul.
As long as you put me in your list.


Demon cult dead MaxInDHouse. tongue

Nancy2020 is another name for Bishop LIENUS.
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