₦airaland Forum

proffemi: There is a simpler explanation: perhaps Nigerians have always been self-entitled. However, when our population was manageable, we could sustain the illusion from our petroleum. Now that our population is getting out of control, we can no longer afford to continue pretending.

As you noted, this is similar to what happened with the subsidy issue. Where you are wrong is the same as before: you think there is something wrong in asking someone to pay for the value he gets.

I see you are studiously ignoring my question, but I'll pose it again: what is wrong in asking someone to pay some fraction for the value he gets?

Actually, there is nothing wrong in that. I've made my stand clear, if the government makes a judicious use of previous withdrawn interventions such as the fuel subsidy and do other things it should, we wouldn't be bothered with University funding or tuition whatever because we would have loads of alternatives to University education. But as it stands, it's the only opportunity majority has to get to the top.

The change has to start from the government because it has all the needed resources. Starting it from us - by introducing tuition and other unnecessary fees - would cut off the development because we do not (and should not) trust them. We would see any of their plans to get from us as another scam - and so it has been.

@proffemi, on the OAU issue, on whose side are you? Ours or theirs? Why?

proffemi: At the height of the SLS saga, I was one of those crying that it should not be swept under the rug IF $20 billion was missing. Do you know for a FACT that $20 billion was missing? I mean, I would be happy to believe that someone loaned N1B from my dad, and so, owes me that amount. But is it TRUE? We do first have to get to that point first.

Then, what makes you assume that if we had that money, it would all be dumped on education fiam?

Look, lets even forget all of that. What is so wrong in a man paying (A FRACTION!) for what he wants? Can you tell me what is wrong with that?

Not bad o. And that's what we've been doing, but they still want us to pay more, sooner or later, we pay everything. And not that they will use the part they withdraw in anything public service - they load their accounts the more. This we all know. Same thing happened to the fuel subsidy.

It's high time we desist from theories that has never worked and would never work in Nigeria.

proffemi: Government should this, government should that.
This is a big part of our problem. We view government as this big Santa Claus that should do everything for us. I am not suggesting that government should not perform its role, but we are just too lazy and self-entitled as a people.

Take this education issue: government already spends a huge chunk educating you (there have been different figures thrown around as the average cost of educating a student. I have heard N2 million per annum, a figure that makes sense to me for an engineering course. However, if we go with LASG, it is allegedly N500k). How much do you pay for tuition currently? So you think government has not already done enough for you by paying the balance? What else would you want government to do for you? Change your diapers?

We clamour for government interventions because we pay taxes and we've not received anything significant in return. What do I say we get in return? Is it stable electricity? Infrastructures? Good health care services? No. But what they want now is to still withdraw the little we get from them instead of improving on it.

We have 67 public Universities, there are not-up-to-30,000 students in each, if it costs N500,000 per annum to cater for each student's tuition - excluding accomodation and feeding. If we calculate this in total, it results in N1.005 trillion. This is just a token out of the missing $20b. And pls, don't talk about our annual budget, it's not up to what they loot/mismanage in 6 months.

proffemi: How much is this "oil money" you guys keep talking about? If you need to be educated, why don't you do a Google search for the GDP of every big petroleum producer, and divide by their population??

The truth is that you guys CHOOSE not to see reason. You say "government has more than enough funds to finance tertiary education fully without us paying a dime". Since you're a university student, I expect you to provide the evidence to back this big claim. I will be disappointed if you are comfortable just making wild claims that you have no way of proving just because, well, it sounds cool.

Wake up bro, your country is not a rich as you think.

How about the other parts of my post? At least $20b is more than all we pay as school fees, and that is just a "token" out of what we have (and what they loot).
We do not have up to 40 federal institutions in Nigeria. In fact, during the ASUU strike, we were made to realize that there were just 67 public Universities in Nigeria - federal and state Universities. If I'm not mistaken, $20b is not less than 3 trillion naira which they said was not available for ASUU the last time they went on strike.

@iwonbaoko, too much people are after University degrees because there are no better alternatives. Our Polytechnics and Technical Colleges ain't doing fine, their graduates ain't encouraged. Government should put other alternatives in place and watch University aspirants decrease. Until then, if we allow them to take this away from us, it will end up being like the fuel subsidy removal - a big scam orchestrated to siphon public funds.

@iwonbaoko, proffemi and others supporting this tuition fee introduction, the fact remains that government has more than enough funds to finance tertiary education fully without us paying a dime.
We were all in this country when the president himself confirmed that $20b was missing. Mind you, this is just a "token" out of what they loot every blessed day. They keep deceiving us with figures that are never real just to console us. It's high time we stood up and fight for our right.
If government refuses to fund education, what then will it do with our oil money? Build roads that it is already planning to also privatize and get more money to loot? Pls educate me.

Shori: Sir,this is not about being a bloody fresher or stallite. Nigeria employers don't employ ''old cargos'' again. It's meant to be ''spend 4 years and go!'' and not ''4+x''. The stallites too are tired,and not the freshers alone.

You were not aware too? Ok. Contunu.
Well, methinks anyone who wants to graduate in time should not think of OAU at all. It has always been so in OAU. Not that we shouldn't care about graduating early, I care too. But, we have to endure, pray and support the SUG the little way we can. Majority of them are finalists too.

Even in her current pathetic state,
even
with her battered Academic
calendar,
even with this unending face-off, do we
still represent this school? Aren't we
tired and fed-up? Aren't we blaming
ourselves, regretting of ever coming
to
this school? Where is our resilent and
indefatigable spirit? The school
management is on the top, united,
and
here we are at the 'bottom', divided.
Is this still the OAU of George Iwalade
(a.k.a Africa)? Is this still the OAU
that
her students shook the whole
nation
with their anger and calmed the latter
with their happiness? We all need to
be
united. Don't forget this is the only
school we can call ours. We have no
other place to go, as some lines in our
school Anthem read thus:
''There is only one great Ife in the
universe
Another Great Ife is a counterfeit''.
We mumur and clamour that our colleagues in other Institutions
whom
we wrote the same UTME, are a
semester or two ahead of us. But
Greatest Ife, please let's note that;
''First to depart is not always first to arrive. There is no competition in
destiny. Que sera sera, what will be,
will be''. As for me, even with this
unending and yet, compulsory
holiday,
I still rep the Legendary OBA AWON UNIVERSITY!!!

All these bloody freshers don tire o.

FrancisTony: LOL! Don't mind them. Instead of them to take jamb next year and fill UI. They might be admitted out of pity.

You sef get wahala o..

FrancisTony: What is funny

Everything on tha thread.

Funny thread.
FrancisTony na case!

What of CU? Are you kidding me?

Comrade kenny: The main Genesis of dis thread has refuse to come back,I guess we jst have to make do with this topic

Yea. Buh fynestboi can change it, he's a mod.

papindinho: why you guys they toll me around na? Oya Jaryeh, tell Mike to release the key then

The key dey with Moz portal.

michaeltotti: Me wey b say i fasted throughout my stay in ife

Fasted ko, "slowed" ni.

Shori: ....and this thread is meant for dissemination of information? Where is the information we're promulgating? Whatsapp no? Ija jaryeh food? Item7?




Afolabi6046,do you have the course outline for BOT101 and ZOO101? I can't find where I wrote it...

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy na.

Anyways, sowi for derailing.

fynestboi, abeg change this thread topic. We no be aspirants again, in fact, we no be freshers again, we be "freshlites".

Good morning everyone.

michaeltotti: Omo ounje:PSHA no finish iya jaryeh fud b4 oau mgt open d sch

Oga mi, na you teach me na. Ah still no like food reach you na. You don forget?

papindinho: grabbed!


@Jaryeh: no be you hold the store key?

No o. Na Michaeltotti.

What's going on here na? Papinx, shey item7 no dey ni?

dejt4u: abi na.. That is OAU for u ooo my guy..na so 5 yrs go turn to 6 b dat ooo without havin extra...welcome on board

Sure. We don gba kamu o.
I hope you're enjoying life after school sir.

dejt4u: m very good..tnx..hope u ar enjoyin dis your 'Omole cum madam durosimi' compulsory break

Ha! I dey manage am o. I have no option.

guiddoti: I love you struggle for common emancipation of Nigerian students. I hope you have no intention of spending millions studying Msc in abroad after this time out. Lets do it here and fight its cause.

Thanks. It seems I don't get your message.

dejt4u: present sir..what it do!

oga mi, I gentle o. How have you been?

Thanks @Muhaymin.

@mfm04622
No government can fund education alone? Interesting! Same government in whose care $20b disappeared into thin air? Tell me more.

No one is saying there should be any increment. All we are saying is, if there would be any, it should be reasonable and justified.

@tom111
Oga, your analysis ehn

Ask yourself these: What was the minimum wage then and what percentage of it was the school fees? What is it now and what percentage of it is the school fees?
I know how it feels, we're in it together na. We just've to endure it.
I can afford it, you can, others can, but some can't. Should they be sent home? Haba!

#OAUsaysNO

nairacobra: Ibikunle, Bamidele and Olori, i'm sure most of u r 21years old! Shameful act of a kid! Omole must go, Durosimi must resign, Na uina papa put them der?

1st of all, there is non of your business with what OAU is doing to make money!
2ndly, if u read ur constitution well, u govern only matriculated students, Wetin consign u consign how much them dey collect predegree or acceptance!
3rdly! Do u know Tony Fash, dr 3As, Saburi, Olwokandi, etc? If u know their story, don't think Omole and Durosimi cares so much about you!

If una get correct head! I heard most people don pay self. Go beg management and resume on time! U just dey wait ur life ontop protest while ur mates for unilag dey progress!

Y r u so backward? Maybe the uncivilazation in ife is really getting into your brain!

Calm down man. Folks like you should be in other schools - not Great Ife.
(Un)fortunately, those people you're addressing may not see this. Moreover, they didn't decide these actions alone, they are all congress resolutions. Well, people like you would never attend congresses. Pathetic.
Pls, change your orientation before it's too late.

oluwamitomisin: Well, i think you guys know better than i do. You may continue with your fights. And i wish you the best with it. but please i don't think i deserve all these name calling and abuses. counting years, i should be far older than you guys judging, by your posts, i feel you're students of OAU.

but try seek knowledge from those ahead of you, protest nor dialogue nor vandalism has never resolved any hike in school tuition in Nigerian universities.

i still repeat, if education is costly, try ignorance

Helloo. Pls, try to accept that you were wrong sir/ma. I think you ought to read before you post. Your posts reek of ignorance.
You may be older than me but I think I'm not too small to correct you. Next time, just pass by if you do not have time to read the OP.