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tatatar:
You have Google,go check it out yourself.
This is like arguing about the shape of the earth. That the Jews don't consider the Messiah to be divine is so well known.

Since you cannot post it here for all to see, then I shall consider your statement a figment of your imagination.

tatatar:
Really? So Jews believe the Messiah will be the son of God or God
Isaiah 9:6 is translated and interpreted differently by the Jews in their scriptures.

Kindly display it here oga.

Burutai in isolation, now it is Boss Mustapha. I wonder who will be next to go into isolation from Buhari's sharia cabinet

How can there be peace where there is no love?

How can there be dialogue when the voice of those who want dialogue are silenced by threats from the government?

How can the igbo, Hausa and Yorubas be one when it is the Hausas that marginalize the country to their own advantage?

The only industrious people are the southerners; the northerners are the leeches who keep draining the blood of the country. If you doubt this, kindly find out where the highest number of ghost workers are. You will see they come from the north.


If Nigeria is to be great, then a restructuring of the country is necessary.

tatatar:
That's hardly the only difference. They don't believe the Messiah will die for anyone's sins not believe he'll be some Son of God or God or divine...all of these they consider idolatry.

You are wrong sire. Kindly see the book of Isaiah 9: 6. In it, the description of the Messiah is given to the Jewish nation and the Jews are still waiting for this prophecy to happen.

This man is a disgrace. What pains me the most is his number of perverted followers who idolize his homosexuality.

I will be glad if he tested positive and perished quickly

Those decamping from PDP to APC and APC to PDP are still the same old nuisances that are sinking us deeper and deeper into a generational bondage. Nigerians it is time you see through this charade.

AntiChristian:
If you had read the books of Islam well you'd have known the truth of the matter but half baked knowledge profits not even the owner of the knowledge.

Jesus the son of Mary (not God) didn't die and will still come to complete his mission and then die.

All humans will taste death!

Muhammad has completed his mission already before he died.

Lastly, Islam is based on faith and works not miracle and falsehood peddling.

Jesus' parents were Jews not Christians.
Jesus never preached to them to accept him as Lord and savior.

Probably Jesus wanted hell for them.

The Quran and hadith are the only books in Islam that tell of Muhammad and his dealings. Now none of these books speak on the whereabouts of Muhammad neither do they speak of what Allah has installed for Muhammad. Now it will it not be foolish to follow such a book that did not guarantee anything to it author...? I will leave that as a rhetorical question.


Secondly, Jesus did die, and the Jews confirmed this from their narratives in the bible. So why would Allah now deny what the Jews witnessed? Or does Allah have delight in making mischief just to prove he is wise?


Let us reason this thing hypothetically :


If Allah substituted someone to die in the place of Jesus, then it means that Allah is responsible of deceiving each and every Christian and Jew who believes that Jesus was killed. Am I right?

This is what happens when you vote an old senile Islamo-marxist fulani man as your president.


My brethen in the north, here is a little something to remind of who you are :

“Yet for Your sake we are killed all day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter” (v. 22).
- Psalm 44

AntiChristian:
Ask the holy spirit?

I need answers to those questions.
You all want us to become Christians but Jesus wasn't able to convert his own parents.

Doesn't charity begins at home?

The question you asked is absurd. Because it has no basis to the topic at hand.

But I will leave you with one last message : According to the Quran and Bible, Jesus is in heaven. But nowhere is it stated that Muhammad is heaven. In fact, no muslim has been given an account of where Muhammad is. I thank my God that the Quran stated that Muhammad does not know what Allah will do with him.


Not knowing where Muhammad is can be very dangerous to your eternal destination. Because this is not a guessing game; it is a personal decision that only you can make for the salvation of your own soul. Remember, do not die following a man who does not know where he is going.


Peace.

Just

AntiChristian:
Enilove three questions for you and Jashub.

1. Did Jesus' parents ever became Christian or died as Jews?
2.Did they believe Jesus was the son of God or God himself in flesh?
3.Will they enter paradise with Jesus?

To the best of my knowledge, the Bible gives no account of the above question. So what is your point basically?

motayoayinde:
1.THE WORD ALLAH IS IN THE ARABIC BIBLE. TRANSLATION OR NOT

2.YOU DARE NOT SAY THIS TO THE JEWS. THEY COULD STONE YOU FOR BLASPHEMY.
THE DIFFERENCE IN YOUR RELIGIONS IS THE TRINITY WHICH IS STRANGE TO THEM.

3."WE" AS USED HERE AND IN THE QURAN REFERS TO ONLY ONE GOD.
THIS EXPRESSION IS CALLED PRONOUN OF SELF REVERENCE.

1. Allah is the Arabic translation of the bible, but Arabic christians recognize Jesus as their Allah. So we are talking about two different deities here.

2. Jews would never stone me for blasphemy because churches are in Jerusalem and there are Jews who worship the same God with Christians in those churches.

3. The word "WE" is pronoun that refers to more than one person. Nowhere is WE used to represent a singular entity so you must be greatly mistaken.
And if you doubt, I can show you a verse from the Quran where Allah Himself, states He is basically more than one person

FatherOfJesus:
Fool is also anybody who thinks a fish can swallow a man whole and eject him without digestion.

That person is a brainwashed fool who doesn’t deserve a functioning brain.

Your silence on the question means you are the fool.

Peace.

FatherOfJesus:
The fool is anybody who believes snakes can talk.

You are greatly mistaken my good man. For my Bible says a fool is any person who says there is no God. So are you the fool who my bible says you are?

motayoayinde:
THE NAME ALLAH WAS IN THE ARABIC BIBLE LONG BEFORE YOUR EUROPEAN FATHERS BROUGHT YOU TRINITY.

BTW, WHEN MUSLIMS READ THE BIBLE, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR OUR GOD FOR HIS PRESENCE ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE.
RATHER, WE'RE LOOKING FOR HOW CHRISTIANS MANAGED TO ARRIVE AT THE EXISTENCE OF A TRIUNE GOD IN THE BIBLE.
IT'S THE EIGHT WONDER OF THE WORLD.
EVEN THE JEWS ARE SHOCKED.

Let me make certain corrections here :

1.The Arabic language was never used in writing the bible; rather it was used to translate the message of the bible for those who were Arabic Christians. So you are greatly mistaken on that point.


2. The Jews know we, the Christian, serve the same God as them because we have the same Holy Books and share the same religious doctrines. They only point were we disagree is on the arrival of Messiah(Jesus Christ).


3. If you had taken the pains to read the Hebrew version of the Torah, you would see the words Elohim (God plural) and Eloha(God singular) are used. And the Hebrews in their Qabbalah these words to define "WE" nature of God.

FatherOfJesus:
Its not a matter of generalizing, you certainly need to be an iidoit to believe the Bible.

A blind fool is talking.

motayoayinde:
PLEASE IF YOU GUYS ARE BENT ON ENGAGING MUSLIMS, BRING THOSE WHO HAVE A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THESE MATTERS (as we know you don't have much of it).

ASKING WHETHER KHADIJAH WAS A JEW IS JUST A BELOW STANDARDS.

SHE WAS AN ARAB QURAISHI WOMAN TO TEACH YOU THE BASICS.

It is on record that Khadijah was a woman of Jewish descent.

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FatherOfJesus:
This is also the case today. Christiansare very ignorant people who really do not know the Bible rather listens to what their GO says.

[/s] Stop generalizing. That is shallow-minded thinking.

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MaryEde:
It's intangible. You can't Feel it then it's intangible

[/s] You are not making sense.

MaryEde:
Okay I will ask you a elementary question...can you feel,touch or hold illiteracy?

Your analogy is lame. But let me indulge you. You cannot feel or touch Illiteracy; you can only see its effect. So what exactly is your point?

MaryEde:
The way you're calling "illiteracy" as if it's tangible as If it's something you can arrest and lock up in police counter.

It is tangible because people like you get your misconceptions from it.

MaryEde:
First, I don't believe In Jesus dude is just a man like Rasputin who was also a miracle worker but nobody knew if he really existed second yes Muslim also have strong beliefs like the way their religion oppresses their women and restrict their freedom...but Christianity's flaw stand apparent and y'all need to own up to the innocent lives you took

Own up to what? Do you know how many lives Illiteracy has claimed? The number one killer of men has always been Illiteracy. And this is a fact you can never deny

paxonel:
Ofcourse they where Christians, just like we still have Muslim jihadists today.

Does that change the fact that Jesus is the way the truth and the life?

It cannot change that

Truth!

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MaryEde:
Of course illiteracy is the only thing that can make a living entity with a fully maTured Brain believe in Christianity.

[/s] A baseless claim by a person I assumed was clever. But I am disappointed in your view of how you relate Illiteracy to religion.

johnwizey:
Shey you have comprehension problem ni abi you refused to read his post?

She is still one of those amateur atheist who hide online but frequently go to church under the watch of parents.

Illiteracy is still taunting us here in Africa in the form of Buhari.

MaryEde:
No, but I want them to admit that Christianity tainted the world history affirms that why won't you?

Illiteracy tainted the world. Not Christianity

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MaryEde:
You have nothing to say, bro learn the history of Christianity and come back here to argue...if you know how your religion came to be maybe just maybe y'all won't be sheeples.

[/s] I have give you reasons but your stubborness rejects it. Why? Do you think your hatred for Christ will change the history of how His believers now operate?

MaryEde:
So, God was telling him to kill people? And he abided...

The bible's is the mind and voice of God, and it ran parrellel to what the Pope had in mind.

MaryEde:
Weren't you the one calling the People of that time illiterate?

Please read my initial post. Thank you.

MaryEde:
Illiterates? The Pope was an Illiterate the cardinals were these people were on the upper echelon of civilization they had it all if nothing they were really knowledgeable

Please get your facts straight : the pope was never an illiterate ; he was learned. And he was basically in charge of Christianity. His words in the interpretation of scripture were consider to be equal with God's, hence no one would dare question his authority.