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PoliticsRe: Fearless ACN Hits Back At Jonathan, Warns South South Ethnic Jingoists by jason123: 10:28am On Apr 10, 2012
edicolove: I would be interested in such a list but again, you cannot say people like Abacha or IBB really cared much what their ministers thought or said. Their agendas were cast in stone from day 1. Awo was the first finance minister if I can recall. He definitely set the tone for where we are now as a nation. His people did benefit from him and you have to respect that but in the context of Nigeria, his divisive ideologies set us up for the big divides we see today.

@ Red highlight

That was Chief Okotie Eboh. An Itsekiri.

@ purple highlight
How? Because he was the finance minister? We had a finance minister before him and we have had finance ministers after him, so how did he set the tone?

@Blue highlight

I respectfully disagree. His policies were for the whole Western region and that included Edos and Deltans.

The big divided was set up by Nnamdi and Ironsi. Infact, our unitary system today was done by Ironsi. These were men of Igbo origins so I don't get how Awolowo did these things you are typing here.
PoliticsRe: Fearless ACN Hits Back At Jonathan, Warns South South Ethnic Jingoists by jason123: 3:45am On Apr 10, 2012
Johndoe100: At last you have found another traitor. It must make you so happy. We are all for keeping politicians on there toes, but the ACN has malice as their primary motive.
Traitor? Lol. This is the second time you are using that word on me.
I know you are a good guy as I have followed your comments on NL. I also know you to be very fair but have a tendency to be bias when it involves Ijaws.

Bro, the SS is very diverse and hence we all cannot have the same opinion. On some issues, the way you see things from Port-harcourt may be different from the way an Edo or Deltan see it. The way I see things, to me seem fair but to you is bias. I have no issues with that since we all have a common goal, DEVELOPMENT whether for our region or Nigeria at large.

In as much as I am against name calling, I cannot be against people expressing their human rights.

As for GEJ's presidency, I hope you realise that ONLY the SS did not get him there? The SE, SW and NC also voted for him (if one of this zones were left out, GEJ will not be there today), even some NW and NEasterners voted for him, are they fools? Certainly not.
The moment GEJ swore that oath, he seized to be an "Ijaw man" and he became a Nigerian with VERY ETHNIC GROUP AS HIS! One thing I want you to realise is that GEJ is not just your president or my president(SS generally) but an Hausa man's, Kanuri man's, Fulani man's, Yoruba man's, Igbo man's etc president.

He must shed the tribal coat put around him by people like Dokubo. It reduces his power base. He also must not answer every criticism cause if he does that, that is exactly where ACN wants him, to look weak and thus increase their power base.

Moreover, criticizing GEJ is PURELY a party thing not an ethnic thing. Don't read too much meaning to an issue as petty as this (before this I never commented on this topic cause its silly). A divided South (not politically)is a conquered South. Let politics remain as politics and let relations remain as relations.
PoliticsRe: Fearless ACN Hits Back At Jonathan, Warns South South Ethnic Jingoists by jason123: 2:11am On Apr 10, 2012
U ru ese
PoliticsRe: Polo Park - Enugu's First Mall Steps Out by jason123: 2:06am On Apr 10, 2012
Beautiful . . . .just beautiful!
PoliticsRe: Fearless ACN Hits Back At Jonathan, Warns South South Ethnic Jingoists by jason123: 1:51am On Apr 10, 2012
Beaf: Who gives a phuck if Yoruba people like or dislike Obj? angry
That point is irrelevant and those raising it are fools who equate ACN with the Yoruba ethnic group. ACN itself promotes this disgraceful attitude as a primitive means for dirty ethnic blackmail as well as to coerce id!otic bigots into line.
If anyones outlook on life is so abysmally primitive, they should bear it in mind that the rest of us do not share your place in the dregs.

In the meantime, lets hail ACN as the title suggests; "fearless ACN" bravely trying to bully minorities!
Up fascists! The new Nazi's in town where everything is delineated with ethnicity.
How though? undecided
PoliticsRe: Fearless ACN Hits Back At Jonathan, Warns South South Ethnic Jingoists by jason123: 1:50am On Apr 10, 2012
edo.girl:
This is about party politics, between two political parties. It's disingenuous to make this a Yoruba thing.

Also, your warning that Yorubas should not 'provoke' non-indigenes into leveraging their numerical strength (not dominance)in the politics of Lagos assumes that so-called non indigenes will line up in single file behind you to vote against Yoruba interest come 2015.

First, most non-indigenes in Lagos are just glad to live peacefully in Lagos. They have nothing fundamentally against Yorubas, at least no more than they have against other tribes. They will not change their position becos JEG can't look after himself

Second, there is a significant number of non indigens who are from outside the S/South and S/East, such as Northerners who live in Lagos and who will have nothing to do with siding with your position unless ofcourse you promise to hand over more of the remaining 30% Nigerian-owned oil blocks they do not already own - to add to the 70% they control. I suspect you wouldn't want to do that, or would you?

Third, many Lagos residents from the South South are clever enough to see this current issue as party politics and nothing more than that, certainly nothing to justify a meaningless gang-up against Yorubas - I include myself in this group.

Regarding your contention that ACN's antics threaten to leave Yorubas 'isolated,' I disagree. Isolated from what exactly. From central govt? When you look deeply, you will find that way back from the First Republic, Yorubas have always been in opposition, including, most of Obasanjo's time as President. Afterall, being in opposition to the central govt didn't stop Awolowo from excelling as Premier. I doubt threatening them with isolation from JEG's government will send shivers down the spine of any right thinking Yoruba person.

My message to you is, keep tribe out of this. Focus on the real issue.
You truly understand it all . . .Thank you!

As for the bolded, I include myself as well (even though I don't currently stay in Lagos but Family stays there)
PoliticsRe: Fearless ACN Hits Back At Jonathan, Warns South South Ethnic Jingoists by jason123: 1:48am On Apr 10, 2012
I AM IN LOVE WITH EDO.GIRL!
PoliticsRe: Fearless ACN Hits Back At Jonathan, Warns South South Ethnic Jingoists by jason123: 11:46pm On Apr 09, 2012
edicolove: My guy, if you looking for an opportunity to lash the Ibos, go ahead. I am not from the south east. I am Niger Delta thru and thru. But that is not even important. What's imporant are that we must have a country where evry tribe is equal and respected. GEJ should be criticised as president but how does insulting his name, traditional attire and such stuff count as proper criticism. Please tell me?
I hope you realise that GEJ was the first person to insult ACN leaders?

As for the bolded, you have my 110% support.
PoliticsRe: Fearless ACN Hits Back At Jonathan, Warns South South Ethnic Jingoists by jason123: 11:12pm On Apr 09, 2012
edicolove: @Jason123, maybe I should break it down for you.

1. Even if Buhari had won all the other five states, GEJ would have still won the lection. Check the result figures.

2. My point is simply that ACN is turning their opposition into a we versus them war. It isn't the other way round. ACN are the real bigots here.

3. There are enough non indegines and Yoruba PDP folks in all the south west states to give GEJ those votes.

4. The reason I keep emphasising the non indigenes point is because you folks think you have a sort of status that really doesn't exist. I don't have a problem with you criticising GEJ, I have a problem with you trying to distract him with your petiness and bad blood. There is BH, PIB, etc that will need to focus on, not some petty building in the presidents village. Haba, it sounds really st.p1.d I must tell you and folks across the country see it as such. Its only in the western press you find those taking it serious
Bros, I am not Yoruba o!

1) If the Yorubas were for Buhari not GEJ, GEJ could have never won, not even Lagos I tell you. Apart from losing the 6 SW states he would have probably lost Kwara and Kogi. This excludes the Yorubas in other states exercising their voting rights as well.

2)I am not absorbing ACN. To be honest, I don't like the party at all but if we are being honest and true to ourselves, they have the very fundamental human right with them; freedom of speech and expression.
Bros, how are they "bigots"? How can they be bigots and people like Asari are not? (hope you are not talking about the fisherman and rascal story?)

3)I agree and disagree. I agree that yes, there are enough PDP folks in the SW but I disagree about non-indigenes. If you has just said Lagos, then yes. Outside Lagos, then no.

4) Bros, I have not criticized GEJ, you know? But yes, I want to now. GEJ should not respond to everyone especially ACN because as the opposition, there job is to scrutinize every move he does so as to give them political leverage. It is not a distraction as you make it seem. They have a fundamental right to express themselves as they so wish to without fear.

Western press? The last time I checked, the press is actually own and controlled by the SS.
PoliticsRe: Fearless ACN Hits Back At Jonathan, Warns South South Ethnic Jingoists by jason123: 10:49pm On Apr 09, 2012
edicolove: Of course I supported him because I needed a change from the majority rule that have ruined the country over 5 decades. You don't think that is a strong reason? Some of you lads have a false sense of importance really.

Get it in your thick skull. Hausa/fulani and Yorubas ruined this country for 5 decades. If you think I will be afraid to say that because you will call me a bigot, then you need to have a rethink. This is 2012 and we are very aware and ready now.
My brother, ready for what? War? cheesy

For those 5 decades did we not have an Igbo Vice-president? What about our senate presidents, from Okadigbo to Mark?

You said over 5 decades, well, this is the 6th decade with GEJ. After his tenure, I hope you know that it will be allowed to include Ijaw into the Hausa/Fulani/Yoruba gang. LOL. grin

Nice chatting with you bro!
PoliticsRe: Fearless ACN Hits Back At Jonathan, Warns South South Ethnic Jingoists by jason123: 10:33pm On Apr 09, 2012
edicolove: I live in Lagos and understand the politics of Lagos. Lagos is not being ruled by the Yorubas because they are more in number but because the non indegenes or other tribes shy away from the politics. My point is very clear. If you make the issue one of Yorubas against the rest of us, you will create a situation where non indigenes will begin to allign themselves against the Yorubas. This is not about insults or name calling. My warning is very clear and about facts. I saw a bit of that in the last elections. The ACN folks at my polling booth clearly told us during the presidential election that it wasn't their day and that they weren't really interested. They boasted that we should come back and see what will happen during the following weeks gov election and true to their words, they turned out en masse. I observed that in at least 3 polling stations.

The non indigenes in Lagos far outnumber the indigenes. Places like Surulere, Ketu, AJ, festac, etc are majorly other tribes. That many of them can speak Yoruba doesn't make them Yoruba. The truth is, if you want to criticize GEJ, by all means do. But when you create this situation where everything ACN peeps do is right and whatever GEJ does is wrong and you want to claim you are being objective or that you have Nigerias interest at heart, you are creating a divide that will come back to hunt you. And to think that everyone else cannot see your real agenda and motive is very delusional.

This church building issue is sooooo petty that it will really lay ACN out in the sun to dry, believe me. If you think Nigerians from across the country is really going to take this serious, then you have truly lost it.
I am not drawn to this whole church issue because, as you said, its too petty an issue to discuss about. There are somethings GEJ, as the president of the a multi-ethnic and secular country should ignore. Why reduce the office of the presidency to pettiness? There are more pressing issues than church matter and GEJ knows this.

You are talking about Lagos alone what about Ekiti? Did the non-indigenes also get to Ekiti, Ondo, Oyo and Ogun? Even in Lagos, have we had a non-indigene as a local government chairman? Yet, they rule Lagos according to you.

My point is, every ethnic group in the South voted for GEJ to be there. Just imagine for a sec that Buhari had won the remaining 5 SW states (since Lagos is taken according to you), will GEJ be there todayhuh Exactly. It was a combined effort not a solitary one.
PoliticsRe: Fearless ACN Hits Back At Jonathan, Warns South South Ethnic Jingoists by jason123: 10:06pm On Apr 09, 2012
Demdem: Once again, this is what the retardeen useless yarns has led us. After intoxicating himself with as much kai-kai as possible, what else again? He goofed big time, no doubt about that.
Hope you realise that it is wrong to insult your elders? Yes, GEJ cannot satisfy everyone but guy we need to take the chill down with the insults . . .
PoliticsRe: Fearless ACN Hits Back At Jonathan, Warns South South Ethnic Jingoists by jason123: 9:51pm On Apr 09, 2012
Gareth is almost always on point!
PoliticsRe: Fearless ACN Hits Back At Jonathan, Warns South South Ethnic Jingoists by jason123: 9:51pm On Apr 09, 2012
Edicolove, since when did the SW or any zone for that matter, lose control of her political destiny to non-indigenes? huh undecided
PoliticsRe: Fearless ACN Hits Back At Jonathan, Warns South South Ethnic Jingoists by jason123: 9:49pm On Apr 09, 2012
edicolove: One funny thing though is that ACN folks keep claiming they were part of Jonathan's emergence. I live in Lagos so I really wonder at such claim. They never came out to vote during the presidential election. The figures are clear on that. The non indegines in the south west were the votes Jonathan got from there. Their claim is very funny and hypocritical. Truth is PDP does not need yoruba votes to win in 2015. If the yorubas don't change their strategy, they will find themselves completely isolated very very soon.
Amazing! So non indigenes made GEJ win Oyo, Ogun, Ondo and Ekiti. This is really amazing. Mister, can you please tell us the "non-indigenes" that voted in, let's say, Ekiti or Ondo?
PoliticsRe: 'Ijaw Won’t Take Insult From ACN' — Konbowei Benson Friday, Bayelsa Speaker by jason123: 9:45pm On Apr 09, 2012
afam4eva: I think bayelsa was unlucky to be part of a rivers state where everything was centered in port-hacourt. So, when the state was created, they had to start building it from s cratch. Like beaf said, Bayelsa only joined the national electricity grid in 2008.
shocked shocked shocked. Bayelsan try sha. Love them peeps!
PoliticsRe: 'Ijaw Won’t Take Insult From ACN' — Konbowei Benson Friday, Bayelsa Speaker by jason123: 9:44pm On Apr 09, 2012
Johndoe100: Without the us (and this includes the izon in ondo) you would starve to death.
Two things;
1) The oil in Ondo state does not belong to the Izon but Ilajes
2) The Izon migrated there and were welcomed by the Ilajes. That is not their ancestral land. The Arogbo-Ijaws will tell you the same.

continue your argument
PoliticsRe: Fulanis Killing People In Gagdarko Village 75 Km To Makurdi? by jason123: 5:52pm On Apr 09, 2012
Ogbonaikenna: Its really unfortunate this is happening. But i think they are reaping what they sowed between 1967-1970. Karma has caught up with them. The spirit of biafra is real
Will you just shut up and stop spamming the web with Biafra. Did Nigeria just start in 1967? What happened before then?? Nonsense!

@OP
Its such a pity that soldiers will not help the villages but will help Fulanis to move to cross-river state!
angry sad
PoliticsRe: 'Ijaw Won’t Take Insult From ACN' — Konbowei Benson Friday, Bayelsa Speaker by jason123: 3:24pm On Apr 09, 2012
alj harem: Let me give the Bigots some example of disgraced Nigerian president

1. OBJ was a Nigerian president and was beating by A YORUBA MAN in MMIA

2. OBJ was stoned with pure water in Anambra (should the "yoruba nation" have come out to shout hailstorm ?)

3. Yaradua was called yara slow, dumb etc before he died (should fulani come and say fulani nation ?)

4. IBB has gone through a lot even till this day from all corner of the nation

5. Abacha was actually murdered by IBB so as to free Nigerian and not Hausa nation or Yoruba nation


I can keep going on and on, you have to understand that the hardwork of making "your son" the president has already been done, Now is the time to leave him to the NATION so he can do his job

GEJ is not a child or a baby you would protect, GEJ just like other and future Nigerian president would got through a lot of hardship and insults till they leave the office and even after they leave they would still be blamed

That is the nature of ruling Nigeria.
You are blessed!
PoliticsRe: 'Ijaw Won’t Take Insult From ACN' — Konbowei Benson Friday, Bayelsa Speaker by jason123: 3:23pm On Apr 09, 2012
Gbawe: GEJ himself wants it like that. We all know how Reuben Abati is quick to open his mouth to defend any perceived criticism of Jonathan. Why was there no reaction from Abati when Dokubo-Asari said that the death sentence against AL-Mustafa is a Yoruba plot to rubbish GEJ? Was that not the perfect opportunity for GEJ to improve unity and cohesion by telling Dokubo-Asari off publicly and stating categorically that the President is behind every sentence passed by a competent Nigerian Court?

There are many examples like that where Jonathan's kinsmen, frankly, have insulted others who have rights , as Nigerians, to criticise the actions of their President or express dissatisfaction with his policies. Instead GEJ kept ominously silent when a peacemaking, uniting and truly Nigerian President would have being very active stepping up to the challenge of putting down divisive, incendiary and needlessly ethnocentric trouble-making.

May God help Nigeria with the choice they have made.
Gbawe, @highlighted, that is the type of country we live in. . . It is quite shameful! Double standards at its best.
PoliticsRe: Obasanjo Visits Oshiomhole, Keeps Reporters Guessing On Mission by jason123: 2:09pm On Apr 09, 2012
Abagworo: The clear message is that GEJ cannot win 2015 Presidency. If he contests, they will fight him with a fellow Southerner who the North and SW will vote en masse. That could be Oshiomole. Everyone knows what that means. No more blackmail of "our oil" or "they are parasites" because both candidates will be from the same zone.
Not to sure about your analysis. You know there is a term called "core south-southerner" now, don't you?
PoliticsRe: 'Ijaw Won’t Take Insult From ACN' — Konbowei Benson Friday, Bayelsa Speaker by jason123: 2:06pm On Apr 09, 2012
Is this what the office of the presidency has been reduced to, a fight between tribalists and religious bigots? SMH! I weep for my Nation!

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