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afam4eva: Please go and have a 30 minutes nap and read what you just wrote when you're awake and tell me if it makes sense. Yakubu Gowon was the head of state. Lagos was the capital and the head of state declared war on Biafra and you expect biafran forces to match to kafanchan to go and do what exactly? Jason, you're smarter than this biko.Then, why not negotiate with the two regions to prevent suspicion? The MW did not hate the East, neither did the West so what was the problem? Do you not see it as naivity to just go to Lagos knowing full well that it might ruin your diplomatic stance. If your neighbour's child should offend and then goes to hide in your cousin's house. Will you just got to your cousin's house and ransack the place or will you try to explain to your cousin to produce the child or deal with the child so as to continue the mutual respect you both have for eachother? |
kettykin: Friend leave the leg and hit the ball, If Americans went to invade iraq and Lybya for the sake of invasion without putting in thought what they would gain and at the end of the day they loose even their oil wells to Iraqi or Libyan control with All American companies relocating their Headquaters to Tripoli and Baghdad and getting only get 13 % for every dollar made from every barrel of oil , what would you call that.Friend, I don't get you. Your analogy does not work here. We were all part of Nigeria but divided up into regions. Therefore,at the time, no region had the right to invade another. Your fight was with the North not the MW or West (you could have gone through the Kogi, Benue or Taraba passage). An attack without negotiation will be viewed as an invasion on these territories. Its like the Core-North breaking away and then invading the NC/MB. It is obvious that the NC/MB will fight against the core-North and this is exactly what happened in 1967. Most people (Nigerians) want to forget about what happened then because it re-awakes emotions, animosity and suspicion. We need to move on so let's stop the blame game. |
ekwy nwa: @ post+1000. Best quote |
kettykin: The foolish Niger Deltans fought Against igbos for nought and were rewarded with exploited and oil populated and ravaged land only good for burying people. . .And we will do it again if our lands are invaded without our permission! Foolish man (no disrespect to the Igbos)! Beaf: You are wrong. The Midwest was first invaded by Biafra, then the FG. Nobody bothered to ask us anything, talkless of us taking sides. Your story is just propaganda which might have been useful at the time, but is now as painful as any other false accusation. I don't see how Isoko's, Urhobo's, Itsekiri's, Ilaje's etc fought against Biafra, or even had the wherewithal to do so.Wrong! In a manner reminiscent of the Vietcong in Vietnam, corpses of freedom fighters were recovered at great peril for burial, frustrating the Biafran units who had just engaged them in firefights. In the Siluko area, 50 Biafran soldiers (about half of a company) were drowned by a group of "Ijaw, Urhobo and Itsekiri swimmers" who lost 16 men in the fight. |
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free_soul: no problemPurely from an analytical pov, I see the SE supporting him again because they have no choice (they can't go for it alone). The SE also needs the power of the incumbent to be with them. The North, I see the NC really pushing for it and having the Core-North's support because the Core-North does not like to be isolated. Hence, I see a David-mark candidacy or a middle belter with Fulani blood. The SW, I see them going alone . . . as always . . .probably for the "ojuyobo" (tinubu) but if they pick Fashola or Osho baba, then, the SW might produce 6-9 states block votes for anyone of them. The SS . . .na our son o! . Although, I see edo reluctantly voting for GEJ,that is, if they vote for him at all. The reason for this is that they were the only SS state (warri included but not the whole Delta) that protested in January. |
afam4eva: Are you from Bayelsa because for some strange reasons known only to you, you don't want it to be in PH.You sure about that? Read the thread again and tell me I am the only one. Bros, Bayelsa needs it more than Port-harcourt. |
free_soul: the bigoted thing is to call together ijaw peoples and call them "south south" people.Regardless, what you typed down was too harsh. You never know, GEJ might actually earn Nigerians' support, our support. 2015 is a very long time from now. |
My questions are: 1) Should GEJ contest, which geopolitical zones will support him? 2) Will Boko haram increase their attack so as to force sympathy votes for GEJ? 3) What about the SE? Will they support the SS again and wait for 2019? 4) If they do, by then, wouldn't the North talk to the NC about lose of power and the need to have power in the zone? 5) How will the SW vote? Will they vote for GEJ after all the recent "bruhaha"? Will they vote for the SE so as to mend political bridges? Or will they just go for it alone? 6) How will the Core-North take this? 7) If GEJ does not contest. Does it automatically go to the SE or are we actually going to have an election? What about Oshiomole? Will he represent the SS zone? Interesting times! ![]() |
free_soul: this is an ijaw only thingThis is very bigoted. So because they are "minority" (according to you),they have no rights, abi? What a shameless thing to say. |
Oga seun and oam4j. please consider this for the front page https://www.nairaland.com/912623/2015-south-south-endorses-jonathan |
Will GEJ run or not? Is it too early to start thinking about 2015? Interesting times! |
Contrary to the declaration by President Goodluck Jonathan that he would run for only one term, his kinsmen have insisted that he has no option than to contest the 2015 presidential election. Prominent Ijaw leaders and south-south elders last week met in Lagos for two days during which they deliberated on the 2015 presidential election and the way forward for the region. The meeting, which was held at the Civic Centre, Lagos, reportedly had in attendance the National Security Adviser, General Andrew Azazi, Ijaw leader Chief Edwin Clark, Niger Delta Volunteer Force leader Mujahid Asari Dokubo, special adviser to the president on Niger Delta, Mr. Kingsley Kuku, permanent secretary in the Ministry of Water Resources Dr. Godknows Igali, pioneer president of Ijaw Youth Council Dr. Felix Tuodolo, oil magnate Mr. Dumo Briggs, NIMASA director-general Mr. Ziakede Akpobolokemi and ex-militant Ateke Tom, among others. The meeting, which had as its theme, “Strategic Programme for the Development and Progress of the Niger Delta”, was meant to draw attention to the development of the region, but the participants used the platform to examine the political implications of Jonathan’s declaration and the future of the region. The details of the meeting were, however, not made public. But a source at the meeting said the leaders of the region were not leaving any stone unturned in ensuring that the region retains the presidency beyond 2015. The source said the South-South leaders expressed worry over the statement by the president that he would not go for a second term, a development that could cause a serious political setback for the region. It was learnt that, after many of the leaders had spoken on the dangers of conceding the top political post to another region on a platter, it was resolved that Jonathan should be persuaded to run for a second term. According to a competent source who attended the meeting, there is a compelling need for Jonathan to change his stance, so as not to mortgage the opportunity of the South-South to enjoy eight years presidency. The source said, “Jonathan is the only person in the South-South who could run and win the presidential election in 2015.” The meeting generally agreed that there was the need for all Niger Deltans to rally round the president to ensure his re-election in 2015. A former president of the Ijaw National Congress (INC), the umbrella body of all Ijaws in Nigeria and in the Diaspora, Joshua Fumudoh, who attended the two-day conference, told LEADERSHIP in Port Harcourt that the meeting considered that the statement by the president at the time was meant to douse tension in the land. Fumudoh argued that such a highly sensitive political decision could not have been taken by the president alone without recourse to the elders and leaders of the Ijaw nation and the south-south in particular as well as certain individuals and groups across the country. The ex-INC leader and member of the PDP said the president’s “desire to serve only one tenure of four years” did not take into consideration what would happen to the remaining four years that would have been Jonathan’s second tenure. Recalling Nigeria’s past presidents and their tenures in office, backed by the necessary constitutional provisions, Fumudoh said it would be against the principle of fairness, equity and natural justice not to allow the South-South to complete their eight years tenure. -Leadership http://africanspotlight.com/2012/04/2015-south-south-endorses-jonathan/ http://leadership.ng/nga/articles/21699/2012/04/11/2015_southsouth_endorses_jonathan.html http://allafrica.com/stories/201204110685.html |
Paultue: Is Bonny Island no more in Rivers state? That is even the largest LNG plant in Nigeria. Remember, the GEJ administration is trying to cut down cost. I think its a good decision, even though i would have preferred Bayelsa.Well said. Bayelsa is in serious need of investments n development |
sylve11: foolish, he's just foolish. . .no necessity replying his post anymore. ilaje rabbit. chasy16: free that dumanu. Itsekiri people are always known to talk like that. Spewing Sh!t from their mouth.You two are the most foolish people on this forum, wahlai! What have the Itsekiris n Ilajes got to do with this thread? How is Ph related to these ethnic groups? Bast.ards! |
Dede1: I am surprised you did not prefer OndoN do u mind telling me why I'll prefer such? afam4eva: Why Bayelsa? Port-hacourt is the oil and Gas capital of Nigeria and such the headquarters of most oil companies should be situated therein.Oil n gas capital? Since when or just by default? Most oil companies r PRIVATE companies. They don't care about d pettiness regarding where THEIR HQ is located. afam4eva: LMAO. I wish i could read my minds of Jason and Al_harem.Why place my name with harem? Respect urself bros. |
Although, I would have preferred Bayelsa. It would froce development to the state create employment opportunities for the Bayelsa youths. |
What is wrong in it? Very good move in my opinion. |
If there is one thing I dislike about ACN, its Tinubu! That ojuyobo is an A55! The only reason people like ACN, apart from the impact of Fashola and Osho baba, is that they are the next big political party. I bet if PDP should do their home work, they win back the SW. |
gentleoyink: @ those of you talkingIt is this same narrow POV that is killing us. When the whole nation protested, it had nothing to do with the Ijaw nation but increase in fuel price. GEJ is not an Ijaw president but a Nigerian president. The SS/SE/SW/NC voted for him. Some NW and NE also voted for him, were they fools? You remove the fuel subsidy without tackling the issue which is the cabal. I'll use this analogy; A child's (masses) pocket money (subsidy) is being taken by bullies (cabal) at school. You as a parent (president), will you stop giving you son pocket money or will you tackle the bully? |
gentleoyink: @ those of you talkingProud of what? Did you read the article at all? It was sold between 120 to 150. Now its around N350-400. How can I not accept GEJ's presidency when my WHOLE family in Nigeria voted for him? Please watch what you type |
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Is this Beaf [/b]of a character okay, at all? How many times have I dared the MODS to check my IP address to see if I am alj harem? How many times do you see me log off and alj harem log on? Don't you see the two user names together (with the new NL feature) which should eliminate the possibility of double IDS? Please grow up and stop using my NL ID to score cheap points because nowadays, the only people you appeal to are the ethnic bigots. No one really takes your opinion serious on NL anymore. Don't even bother replying because I'm not ready for your immature rants and silly pictures. As for [b]one-naira, SHUT IT! You are even lower, as the name suggest, "one naira". . .not worthy of a proper response. |
Was this not the reason people protested. Well, this is the effect of tribalism. . . .hope they will be able to cope . . . |
Oga seun and oam4j. please consider this for the front page https://www.nairaland.com/911832/group-laments-high-cost-petrol |
By Samuel Oyadongha Yenagoa—The Rawls Centre, a Niger Delta-based advocacy group for social justice and development, has decried the high cost of petrol in Bayelsa State, as the product goes for between N120 and N130 per litre. It was gathered that only the NNPC mega station was selling at N97 per litre in Yenagoa metropolis while the NNPC mega stations in the hinterland were not functioning, leaving the locals and boat operators at the mercy of black marketers, where a litre is sold for between N350 and N400. Country[b] Director of the Centre, Mr Ekiyor Welson, yesterday, blamed the situation on what he described as the docility of residents to resist the high prices and their refusal to join the other parts of the country in the protest against the removal of fuel subsidy. [/b] The centre noted with sadness that even the palliatives introduced by the Federal Government to mitigate the negative effects of the high fuel price were not being felt in the state due to its riverine nature. He said: “Three months after the new price, petrol sells for between N120 and N130 a litre across the state except at the NNPC mega stations where you have to spend between one to five hours to buy at N97. “When on January 1, the pump price of petrol was increased from N65 to N147, little did residents of Bayelsa imagine the irony of of the situation. While the product is selling less elsewhere, it is selling for more in Bayelsa. As a predominantly riverine state, it is a nightmare travelling across the state in boats and other motorised river crafts as you have to pay through your nose.” [b]The events that greeted that jolting action are now history but refreshing them in our mind highlights once again the place of human agency in the enthronement of change and progress in society. As most parts of the country were engulfed in protests and rallies, Bayelsans, in solidarity with President Goodluck Jonathan stood aloof.” The group noted with sadness that even the labour leaders in the state designed what it described as a softer version of the national strike called by the central labour centres; Nigerian Labour Congress, NLC and Trade Union Congress, TUC with members of the Ijaw Youth Council and the elders turning the entire agitation into a renewed call for resource control and ‘occupy your resources. The Centre decried the attitude of Bayelsans to the subsidy protest, adding “the people of the state must realise that issues of justice remain the best guarantee for progress and growth in any society” and pleaded with the state governor to work round the clock to bring down the price of petrol to the approved N97 pump price.[/b] http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/04/group-laments-high-cost-of-petrol-in-bayelsa/ |
edicolove: @Jason123, I never said I hate the Yoruba. I am discussing issues here not persons. I did say before that I have several Yoruba friends. I am talking in the context of Nigeria and the Yoruba nation. My problem with them is the hypocrisy they show when they try to make us believe they are fighting for our collective interest. I will respect them a lot more if they just come out and state it like it is. At least that's one thing you have to respect the Hausa/Fulani for. They always come out to say what they want. If all the tribes in Naija just come out and make their demands and positions, we would have been a great country by now.Okay, I get you. I think their position is federalism (not too sure). I agree but again, you are absorbing the Igbo ethnic group and blaming the Hausa/Fulani/Yoruba. What about the Ubas in the oil industry? Abuja? lol! Anyway, I get you. . . . |
ekwy nwa: pls get your facts right, they were not against their own, they preferred Olu Falea to OBJ, they perceive OBJ is a northern string-puppet. In 2003 they voted OBJ en mass and they even lost SW states to PDP.Regardless, you don't dislike your own and yet you remain tribalistic. Some Igbo dislike Zik, are they tribalistic? |
edicolove: @Jason123, I did say that "if I can recall" meaning I wasn't too sure if he was the first. But I think he did set the tone for modern day Nigeria in terms of economic policies. Like I said, on one hand, they ere good policies that favoured his people but in the National context, they were detrimental to the national interest in the long term. So sincerely, it is hard to fault him. I do have big issues with Zik too. Zik was one of those that pushed the one Nigeria stuff to the point where we ended up with this fraud of a relationship. But Zik was a ceremonial head. Sir Ahmadu Bello was the prime minister and had all the powers. Ironsi was a weak military ruler who didn't even want to rule.No worries. I too don't know everything. Can you point out the national policies he did that were detrimental? About Zik, he was meant to form Southern Nigeria with Awo. I hope you are aware that the three region were said to have voted. Zik and Ahmadu voted for Nigeria while Awo was left alone to vote against. That set in motion the margnalisation of his people and that is why I keep tell people (not you) that Nigeria did not just start in 1967. You once said Igbo rule the civil service, did you ask how? Well,from the Yoruba's point of view, that was treachery. But nowadays, most people have selective history. How did Ahmadu have all the powers? Through Awo or Zik? Ironsi, whether weak or not, forced a unitary system. You can't absorb his fault and Igbos fault in Nigeria yet quick to call out Hausa/Fulani and the Yorubas since the first coup was carried out by men of the Igbo ethnic group. Why not go back to the genesis of the whole matter? |
9jadelta: Hahahahaha I can see some Igbo and yoruba here trying to claim what they don't have...trying to form alliance with us in the south south ...well we are d richest tribe so I won't wonder much about that....but I will rather have naija Delta republic that all my oil will be use to develop or my area than join any other stup!d tribe be it biafra or odua republic to form a country or better still united southern nigeria .... So all if u igbo mor0ns and yoruba ass...can kiss my butt..hihihihihihihi *wicked laff*VERY SOLID POINT!!!!!!!!!! |
edicolove: @Edo_girl, if you think the non indigines in Lagos really "Love" the Yoruba, you are truly delusional. I have several Yoruba friends but when you talk of the Yoruba as a whole, the perception is very different. When you talk about them in the context of Nigeria, the perception is very different. Edo state is ACN but majority of Edo state citizens will never go with the Yoruba.Her point is, we don't hate Yorubas, we don't care about how they run their politics. How can you hate your host and yet remain in the state? Does that not defeat your point? They are tribalistic cause they isolate themselves? These are a people that are known opposition since the first republic, even against their own in 1999. How is that tribalistic?? Other SW states except ondo are not buoyant because they do not have oil? C'mon, you know better than this. . . . You call Hausa/Fulani and Yoruba but spare the ethnic group that started the first coup ever in the country and the first civil war? The ethnic group that killed other leaders but left theirs? The ethnic group that has EQUALLY been in power, if not president, but they produced a VP and senate presidents throughout these period? |
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. Although, I see edo reluctantly voting for GEJ,that is, if they vote for him at all. The reason for this is that they were the only SS state (warri included but not the whole Delta) that protested in January.
