NASTYNASOSO: HMMMNN WOW, PROMISES!!!! NOW WHO WROTE THE BIBLE? CAN YOU SHOW ME ANYWHERE IN THE BIBLE THAT THE WORD "BIBLE" APPEARED. BROS TO ME YOU ARE JUST PROMISING YOURSELF FUNNY ENOUGH YOU CANNOT SHOW ME ANYWHERE IN THE BIBLE THAT JESUS AS A NAME IS MENTIONED LETS JUST STICK TO THE PHYSICAL DEATH ISSUE
not until the word "bible" appear in it before you believe. Koran should be banned round the world because it encourage terrorism. If jesus name is not mentioned then where did your allah see isa as his name because from the greek name of iesus or yeshua formed arabian isa ? Because we all know allah copied most of its stories from the same bible.
wablex: Dats discrimination, dats how dey stat war nw
start war? Then why will saudi arabia, iran, pakistan,libya and more restrict or ban christian activities? Let the muslim nations tolerate other religion too.
Self defence is never a sin !!!! So you mean that kumiyi will widely open his eyes for fulanis herdsmen to pluck it ? Jesus taught us to be peaceful with our persecutors yes!!! But sometimes you need force to defend yourself. Jesus christ case is different from us. HE was sent to die for us abi are we sent to die for each other too.
Perhaps Pastor Johnson Suleman doesn’t understand what it takes to be a Christian; in its simplest form, Christian means “Christ-like”.
I was livid when I saw this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuIoq9dnsTA not only because Pastor Johnson Suleman is promoting violent from his pulpit, misrepresenting Christianity, but also because of his general low reasoning level.
Contrary to what the Christ taught his followers (pray for those who persecute you, hate you, turn the other cheek, forgive they neighbor etc), Pastor Johnson Suleman openly urge members of his congregation to kill Fulani herdsmen that he claimed were sent to kill him. Citing David versus Goliath as a basis of killing shows Pastor Johnson’s ignorance and lack of theological grasp of the Bible
According to Pastor Johnson Suleman, his friend told him that Fulani herdsmen were after him; if this information is so authentic why not take it to the authority? I know what a lot of people will be saying here - Nigeria police won’t do anything – so let me cut Pastor Johnson Suleman lack with regards to my above question. This brings me to my second question, why did Pastor Johnson Suleman not take this issue to God in prayer instead of telling his Church members to attacked Fulani Herdsmen that come close to his church?
As we Christians go about our daily endeavor, what makes us Christian is our answers and action to this question – “If it was Jesus Christ, what will he do?”. Even on the cross Jesus said “father forgive them for they know not what they do”
funny you!!!!! So you mean when arm robber come to your house and you have the opportunity to kill him or them before they or he kills you what's that?--- even holy spirit did not show mercy to ananias and sephanias for withholding what rightfully belong to them. Go and sleep . Jesus did not say we should be stupid. Go and check the history of spain how they got their country from blood suckers muslims.
jonbellion: but as hopefullandlord pointed out you operate under divine command theory. Basically if God commanded such you wont see a problem with it. And Jesus is also god in the flesh right . Which means he was always there even during the OT laws Are you seeing how your religion has boxed itself into a tight hole
jesus said in mathew 5 vs 43 to 44-you have heard that it hath been said , thou shall love thy neighbour, and hate thy enemy---- can you see what he said now come and see he corrected them in verse 44 he said but I say unto you , love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you. Please sorry I won't reply your mention any more . Remain bless !!!!.
I saw the post on the forum and am saying it now that any person can do that or bear christian name that does not make him, her or them a christian basic. A good christian will know that we are not wrestling against the flesh so!!!!. There is flaw in every religion on earth but for christianity rascarlity is not the dent . In india from 1993 to 2013, 10million young ladies have been killed for witchery and no atheist have seen or talked about it it. You can google it yourself sir.
benzics: I thought you all said, God is one? You believe in the trinity, which means Jesus is God? So basically, Jesus also created the world right? Since he is God..
Let's say yes, Christians follow Christ..
Then why do you still pay tithe that is from the old testament?
I thought you all said God is unchangeable, so are you admitting that the psychopathic god of the old testament evolved and changed? Since Jesus is God, he was the one who gave those commands above.. Oh, lets say yahweh did, is it not yahweh you worship? So are you saying yahweh is an idiot, and that Jesus is better than yahweh (which means Jesus is not god)??
I understand your pain okay!!!now you talk about christianity which is the basic of our argument now during that time you quoted is there any evidence that show that those old testaments were christians because we are talking about christians.
benzics: That's my problem with you Christians, you don't even know your Bible.. well let me put to you some violent passages your useless buybull teaches.. you'll probably say "old testament" or "out of context".. fucking hypocrites..
[b] [color=maroon] It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said Thou shall not kill. For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).
God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses (Joshua 6). In Judges 21 He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife!
Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered
The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 & Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person.
Murder, rape, pillage, plunder, slavery, and child abuse can not be justified by saying that some god says it’s OK. If more people would actually sit down and read the Bible there would be a lot more atheists like myself. Jesus also promoted the idea that all men should castrate themselves to go to heaven: For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it (Matthew 19:12). I don’t know why anyone would follow the teachings of someone who literally tells all men to cut off their privates. [/color] [/b]
yes you played to my trap. I have been waiting for you to quote those verses for me sir!!!!! Now you are talking about christians right please can you tell me where the name christian was derived from, where were they first called such? why they called them that? That will heal you from ignorant illness.
benzics: Islam like Christianity is a shitty religion!! Both religions are for cunts!!
But if you think boko haram represents Islam and you don't think kkk or the crusaders represents Christianity, then you are a hypocrite!!
Islam teaches violence, Christianity teaches violence, some/most Muslims are violent, some/most Christians are violent, that is the truth, there is no difference between you two except Muslims cause more mayhem than Christians, but they both cause mayhems! You can't overlook the stupidity of one, you must consider them both.. Bullshit religions!
can you please bring out your evidence about the teaching violence in christiandom or you are the hypocrite. No matter what you say that can never change what fate that will be fall on you. Deny God existent that's your choice. Most christians are violent? Ah christians that leave their churches for muslims to make use of it in the time of their fasting! Can a muslim leave their mosque for christian? Huh? Tb joshua feed the muslims, gave them money and many other things which islamic organisation or imam can do that? Infact some people are not different from stone or living dead man because hatred have consume their soul, they are hollow and dead.
johnydon22: I will not bring myself as low as banter words with you, I have spoken my truth the best you can do is counter it with facts if you can - unless you can't so you resort to insulting.
radical Christianity has been as aggressive as radical Islam and you cannot dispute that, therefore I see no reason why you cannot present your arguments without being spiteful and resorting to insults - I do not know you so surely do not feel the need to start exchanging personal remarks and insults with you.
next time, bring your arguments, not your insults, we understand you know how to indulge in hateful insulting emotional banters but some of us are above the puerile level.
you too bring an evidence that prove that radical christians wrecking havoc in the community.
benzics: Do you even mind these guys? A Christian was calling allah a wicked demon, because of his commands in the Quran.. But if you call yahweh or Jesus hateful names, these same Christians will tell you that you are persecuting them, and that you should leave them to their beliefs...
Christians scream "persecution, persecution", whereas in the real world, Christians are the real persecutors, persecuting gays up and down..
I saw posts on nairaland where Christians were praising Trump for removing the "Muslim agenda" by Obama, and replacing them with "Christian values"... Like what sort of double standards is that??
Christians are the most idiotic and hypocritic amongst the three abrahamic faiths, and I don't give bat sh-it when Christians shout" persecution ", 'Cause they seriously need to be persecuted..
how will you feel when a boko haram slaughter your mother, shouting allauh akbr in the name of defending blood sucking gods?. Because you sit down at the corner of your room to type poo as you like! Can you even mention the word gay in muslims country talkless of doing it you will find your head rolling on the floor. You are the worst hypocrite.
Aremson14: Apostle Suleiman recently said "kill Fulani herdsmen u see". Now he doesn't even know Christians are among the Fulani herdsmen. Shekarau deceives people into thinking they are being oppressed by christians. Now tell me why the appostle isn't a criminal
when was self defence turned to a crime? When the herdsmen were on rampage killing people I don't know there is a group called muric ooh but now !!!!!! Christians stand up and defend yourself!!!! Christ can't come from heaven to help us!!! Our government are full of retard people and herdsmen so don't expect anything from them.
Empiree: Donald John Trump listening to the Recitation of the Quran after he attended a national prayer service in his first week as president of the United States.
Candycrusher: Two wrongs don't make a right. Hand criminals over to the authorities instead of killing them. Nigeria is not a jungle nor a zoo
nigeria police men are not contributing well in curbing crimes , in a situation like our country jungle justice is the best. You will suffer to make a living someone will just come from no where and take it by force from you , when you think police should be your refuge they tend to be your nightmare, so is good like this.
belovedsamex: People of God, I don't want us to talk about this with biased mind maybe because you are a female or because you flow with the Western World's "bastardization" of true religion. I want us to consider it with open mind. You can convince me otherwise, but I stand to posit that it is heresy to teach scripturally that men and women are equal before God.
I do not mean to subject women as slaves to men, No! Neither do I mean to say that women are inferior to me...kpakam! The reason I brought up this thread is because of this thing that someone posted in my WhatsApp group yesterday:
If you study the bible very well, you will realize that from. Genesis to Revelation, the Holy Scriptures always puts forth MEN before their WOMEN. For instance, when Jesus fed both 4 thousand and the 5 thousands, the number of people that were mentioned were only men, and the bible specifically says "besides women and children". Apostle Paul realizes this and advices that women should also "be quiet in the church and only be subject to their husbands".
I do not mean that women should not preach or have good positions in church. Here is where I'm going:
Before the advent of the western world's GENDER EQUQLITY sermon, the Jewish culture gave the world at large of how women are to live with their husbands in the home. From the Jewish culture, as understood from scriptures:
1. it was a woman's duty to ensure that food is available in the home in terms of preparing it,
2.it was her duty to give birth to children, nurture them until they are up to age
3. She is the manager of all domestic activities in the home and that is why any slave in the house that attends to domestic duties belong to the woman and not the man. ...And some other things.
But today, the madness of gender equality has made women give themselves position in the home that God never want them to occupy. Now women want their men to share their domestic responsibility by right (and not by act of willing help), some women demands the right to decide what happens and what does not happen at home. And so on....but why is this so: because of Sermon of GENDER equality.
Please women...do not be fooled by this sermon. Your role as a woman in your home is specifically given to you by your God who made you. Your husband can help you out in your duty, but it is NEVER your right to demand him to do it. You may be the minister of your state, but the duty God gave you in your home should always be your first priority. It does not matter even if you hire maids who attend to the domestic duties, just make sure it is done when the home needs it. Never abandon it and expect your husband to take charge because you have the government to serve. If you cannot accomplish your God-given task, how would you accomplish a more tedious task by humans? I have many things to say about this but let me stop here.
I fear that many women will have God to answer on the judgement day cos of this. If my pastor should preach Gender Equality in my church, I will leave that church same day. I believe that the Concept of Gender Equality is one of the Agenda Satan devised from the pit of hell to deceive many unsuspecting xtians. Thank you...
jesus!!! Am still wondering where most christians left their sense of reason. Bible did not condemn slavery does it mean that slavery is good? So if bible did not teach gender equality means women are to be your slavery right? You think bible writers are perfect abi? They wrote those bible in accordance what was happening in their where women been treated like sex slaves and child bearer.
parisbookaddict: Terrible write up. The bible preaches equality. Even tho it makes it clear the man has his duties and the woman her duties. There is no place the bible preaches inequality.
** BY THE WAY , its Christian and not xtian as u wrote.
FlirtyKaren: There are still a number of countries in this world where Christians are forbidden from celebrating the day associated with the birth of Jesus. Check them out below:
1. England
Oliver Cromwell overthrew the monarchy and oversaw the execution of King Charles I during the English Civil War, but for many the fiery Puritan leader is better known for banning mince pies.
Christmas and the celebration of saints' days was discouraged – if not prohibited – in England between 1647 and 1660 as the country was ruled by a puritanical movement that considered the feast day 'giving liberty to carnal and sensual delights'.
They mandated that shops had to remain open and cracked down on celebrations, leading to violent clashes on the streets of London and other cities. Life returned to normal after Cromwell's death in 1658 and the Restoration two years later.
2. Brunei
Brunei banned public celebrations of Christmas and imposed fines and jail terms for those caught celebrating the festival in 2014, an edict that was reiterated in 2015 by religious leaders writing in local newspaper, the Brunei Times. "These enforcement measures are ... intended to control the act of celebrating Christmas excessively and openly, which could damage the aqidah [beliefs] of the Muslim community," they said. It specifically banned the wearing of Christmas costumes such as Santa hats, the lighting of candles, the signing of religious songs and putting up decorations such as Christmas trees. The Sultan of Brunei, a billionaire who owns hotels across the world, introduced a strict interpretation of Sharia law on the territory last two years.
3. Tajikistan
The reclusive former Soviet republic country's education ministry issued a decree in December outlawing Christmas trees, the exchange of presents, fireworks and festive meals.
Sky News reported that while the restrictions in 2015 are the strongest yet, anti-Christmas regulations have been getting increasingly restrictive over the last few years in the Muslim-majority country.
In 2014, the Tajik government banned Father Christmas and three years earlier a man dressed as Santa was stabbed to death in the capital on New Year's Eve. Tajikistan also bans Halloween and in 2013 and 2014 police rounded up revellers dressed as zombies and vampires.
4. Saudi Arabia
Little surprise that Saudi Arabia, a theocracy governed by the strict Wahhabi doctrine of Islam, is not a big fan of Christmas.
In the past, expatriates had quietly celebrated in the comfort of their own homes (and will likely continue to) but rumours of illicit Christmas parties prompted state media in January to reiterate that celebrating the festival was not allowed in the kingdom.
It went further by forbidding Muslims from greeting non-Muslims at Christmas, with a Saudi scholar saying: "If they celebrate the birth of God's son and you greet them... it means you endorse their faith." In 2015, it emerged that some expatriates in Saudi Arabia were going further, tweeting pictures of their Christmas trees and children dressed for the occasion.
5. North Korea
Back in 2013 North and South Korea almost went to war after the latter erected a giant Christmas tree at the border of the two countries.
North Korean state media said that the huge Christmas tree – which was lit up in a town close to the border and clearly visible from the North – was an act of psychological warfare.
North Korea does not officially ban Christianity but is ranked among the most hostile countries in the world towards Christians.
To complicate matters, December 24th – Christmas Eve – is celebrated in North Korea as the birthday of the Sacred Mother of the Revolution, Kim Jong Il's mum.
6. Albania
Albania not only banned Christmas but religion as a whole in 1967, making the country the first and only constitutionally atheist state.
The ban on any and all religious worship was only lifted after the fall of the Communist regime in 1990, when both Christians and Muslims were able to practice for the first time.
During the Communist years many priests and religious leaders were rounded up and jailed, but the pious celebrated Christmas and Easter nonetheless in private. They would have cake or chicken at meal times as a way of marking the days.
7. USA
Puritans, up to their usual tricks, attempted to ban Christmas when they arrived in the New World in 1620. They branded the festival 'Foolstide' and decreed that the only religious day that should be celebrated was the Sabbath.
The Puritans managed to keep the ban going until the middle of the 18th century, at one point even arresting the Sir Edmund Andros, the Governor of Massachusetts, when he tried to sponsor a Christmas service.
8 CUBA
Fidel Castro announced the Cuban government as atheist as soon as it took power in 1959 but it wasn't until 1969 that the Communist leader actually banned Christmas, as he wanted the population to stop partying and start working on the sugar harvest.
It was Pope John Paul II who eventually persuaded the now late Cuban leader to lift his ban during a visit in 1998, when Castro agreed to make the day a national holiday.
9. Somalia
Somalia banned Christmas in 2013 when a directive from the Ministry of Justice and Religious Affairs stated that no Christian festivals could be held in Somalia.
Sheikh Ali Dhere, the country's director of religious matters, called a press conference a week before Christmas to make the announcement. "We alert fellow Muslims in Somalia that some festivities to mark Christian days will take place around the world in this week. It is prohibited to celebrate those days in this country," he said. It was the first time that the Somali government had banned Christmas since the country's government collapsed in 1991. In 2015, the government in Mogadishu went further, banning New Year's Eve celebrations and ordering the police and army to disperse any celebrations it found.
10. China
Christmas and Christianity as a whole were banned in China after 1949 but you would not know that if you were to visit during the festive season today.
China goes mad for Christmas, and it is not just Chinese Christians that get in on the act – while Christmas is not a national holiday it is a widely celebrated festival day, akin to New Year, with fireworks and fancy dress in abundance.
While Santa Claus costumes and hats are a common sight on the streets of Shanghai or Beijing during Christmas, other costumes are less traditional – devil horns, for example, are sold widely to mark the day.
Couples also like to treat Christmas as akin to Valentine's Day, exchanging gifts and going out for romantic meals.
Local media reported in 2012 that, like in the West, the Chinese use Christmas an opportunity to hit the shops, with Christmas Eve the biggest shopping night of the year for some retailers.
op please don't mislead people because some of informations you put up there are wrong. Like USA now puritans are they another name for USA? Think even till now christmas is going on now in england and UsA so why will you say said correct yourself is either they banned them before but not now even USA have never one time banned it the puritans a group of christian believers that see Christmas as idolatory.
clevvermind: do you think that there is any word like christmas in the bible? if no, why are we celebrating it? did Jesus asked us to celebrate it? i need an answer.
is it a sin? If you can celebrate your church anniversary or company anniversary? Why not celebrating who show how to love whose teaching change the fate of mankind!. As far God is not complaining what's your problem.
Nigeria!!!!!! You have failed your children. Most people commenting on this thread are from fail home, evil family, unsettled family, immoral family and demonic parents because they are here supporting this evil happening on river state . No one his or her life worth killing for this crooks and devils that are parading themselves as our leaders.
Tokety7: This is ridiculous. these are Wike's thugs that have just hijacked voting materials. These are the kind of people SARS and army needs to direct their bullets at.
jesus christ!!!!! Because of election , to shoot an harmless people for the sake of election so, you are advocating for do or die election right? . And you have brother or sister so you mean is your wish let stray bullet touch any one of them!!! . You are a shame to your family.
dankol: seriously.. i salute your courage to speakout. i am really impressed cos, you have clearly proved that some persons can still actually do some logical reasoning ans still choose to be a christian and that i sure respect. Pastor Logic.. Thumbs up sir
the bible is an open field for everyone of us if you choose to be fool so be it but if choose other wise then you know the type of evil perpetrated by so called God chosen ones, using God name to wreck havoc.
LaClicKLaBenDin: And please, you who has all the sense, what's your point? Because I don't even understand your write up.
Do you mean to tell me that since the letters of Paul were letters, that they are not part of Scripture? Please do state your point clearly, I don't seem to understand you at all.
The Bible is in categories, we have the synoptic gospel and the letters and they're all part of the scriptures. I don't know how knowledgeable you are, but if you're here to tell me that we do not need to employ the help of the Holy Spirit in our understanding of the Bible, then I don't want to you hear what you wanna say. Even Jesus knew the importance of the ministry of the Holy Spirit, that was why He advised the disciples to wait for the baptism of the Holy Spirit, before going to witness, and we all know what happened after then.
Do you wanna tell me that since Paul wrote those scriptures in the form of letters, we shouldn't allow the spirit of God to passage his message through them? Or you think there isn't a divine purpose that is set to achieve through those letters and even the parts that you term fleshy or carnal?
I even doubt if you really understood where this whole argument started in the first place.
am not here for an argument! Now you need holy spirit to understand my point.
LaClicKLaBenDin: Jesus Christ! And you claim to be born again? Wow!
So, the New Testament wasn't written by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit?
The Scripture says in II Peter 1:20-21, "You must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
II Timothy 3:16-17, "All Scripture is God-breathed ( by inspiration of God) and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."
The Bible rightly says "by their fruits ye shall know them"!
Brother, you're a fake! Christians please beware of false brethren like this; these are the people who come in the guise of Christians, just to lead men astray. He is saying in earnest that the new testament is a historical book which does not need the aid of the Holy Spirit to understand! Wow!
simple sense, reason and understand is far from some christians that's why devil made heavenly race so severe for us. You quoted a place in the bible that talk about how scriptures were written now think of it when paul made that statement what was he reading from ? Now is own work was never considered as a scripture but he addressed his written as "letter" so there is different between letter and a scripture then but now it has turned to scripture. Now look at this verse written by paul in 1corinthians 5 vs 1- 6 compare this verse to john 8 vs 10to 12 are they not contradicting to each other? Huh please am sorry I could not quote it here help me to read the two chapters and tell me what you understand. To me you will see that paul was led by flesh there.
4everGod: Are you sure you are a Pastor? if you were you would see Pauls appeal to the reason of Philemon showing Him how Love in Christ sets us free both physically and spiritually and he should now show Love by setting His slave free even as He (PAUL) now sees him as a free man.
Are you sure you know the word?
please simple english! The verses only show act of appealing that's all. Please tell me the difference between appealing and condemnation because in those verses all am seeing there is that paul is appealing to philemon to liberate onemous.
10. I appeal to you for my child Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my imprisonment, 11. who formerly was useless to you, but now is useful both to you and to me. 12. I have sent him back to you in person, that is, sending my very heart, 13. whom I wished to keep with me, so that on your behalf he might minister to me in my imprisonment for the gospel; 14. but without your consent I did not want to do anything, so that your goodness would not be, in effect, by compulsion but of your own free will. 15. For perhaps he was for this reason separated from you for a while, that you would have him back forever, 16. no longer as a slave, but more than a slave, a beloved brother, especially to me, but how much more to you, both in the flesh and in the Lord. 17. If then you regard me a partner, accept him as you would me. 18. But if he has wronged you in any way or owes you anything, charge that to my account; 19. I, Paul, am writing this with my own hand, I will repay it (not to mention to you that you owe to me even your own self as well). 20. Yes, brother, let me benefit from you in the Lord; refresh my heart in Christ. 21. Having confidence in your obedience, I write to you, since I know that you will do even more than what I say
oh God did that verses you quoted condemn it? Yes or no? Don't twist it!!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Misconception About A Verse In The Qur'an By Those Who Claim To Be Christians by jcross19: 2:08pm On May 16, 2017
. Which means he was always there even during the OT laws 
