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oyaskii:
Not a DC fan, how are you people not getting this...The entire Black panther is a plot hole Black panther can't lace the boot any of the Dark knight trilogy maybe the first one if the argument comes up.

oyaskii:
You should have just calmed down and see my comment isn't even DC related, since you want to drag irrelevant oscars...Superman won oscars for Best original score, film editing and sound mixing, Batman won for best art direction, Batman the dark knight won for Best supporting actor and best sound editing, as trashy as suicide squad was, also won an oscar But continue to be myopic.

Black panther wasn't a great film story line or plot wise and that's fact...cultural importance then i can start listening to you.

hulk616:
bric Larson has an Oscar
DC fans are just jealous and pained.

They always say DC animation are the best and marvel are doing nonsense with their animation, but last year marvel released one animated movie and it won an Oscar compared to DC collection of trash.

blingxx:
Can someome tell me why captain marvel is getting so much negative reviews before it release... Mjbolt, hulk616 come and explain

troubleseller:
This is more sensible. The wahala was actually with those saying it is the best animation ever.

Ihedinobi3:
That was not a flaw at all because a final uncaused cause is a logical necessity for existence to make sense. Infinite regress is an impossibility.

That impossibility is another flaw in your cyclic model. Your model has universes in generations stretching into the infinite past with the question "how did it all start?" unanswered.

Further, your model assumes the possibility of change in a closed system. That is false. If the universe is all there is, it won't change at all, much less produce a new Universe and go out of existence.

Ihedinobi3:
Didn't have a previous life. And I'm not dodging.

You did claim that the Universe has always existed. How is that different from a causeless cause?

hisexcellency34:
Arsenal is the best team in the world. Just bring on any team, Barca, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Real Madrid even Mancheter United

Ihedinobi3:
You'll have to wait until johnydon22 responds to see what I think of your alleged oxymoron.

Ihedinobi3:
So?

Ihedinobi3:
Why do you think that I haven't?

Ihedinobi3:
but you should consider the question:

If something exists without cause, then how does it exist at all?

alexistaiwo:
Don't mind me.
TV series have a way of indulging you and making you stay away from regular movies.

2010-2017, I don't think I watched more than 20 regular movies.
TV series all through

BlackManta:
He didn't say it was the best animated movie ever made like the lying ass hulk guy was claiming

MJBOLT:

but according to you,superman batman apocalypse is the best comic book animation

Itzneowizy:
My tots exactly... I said it was similar to Inception.. But some made the analogy with SPLIT....to me it beats INCEPTION...

eazyhifii:
Baba that one nah lie which "real otakus" prefer subbed anime. As far as I know and observed, most people prefer subbed anime. I can't even imagine myself watching dubbed naruto mehn it would be so freaking weird, kage bushin no jutsu going to shadow clone jutsu like it might even spoil the entire day for me. That's how bad it is.

Kaycee7:
Perhaps your ajebo is really original and not London-used. I hardly watch anything dubbed even if it's a Malaysian or Armenian movie. But sometimes I make exceptions for a few anime.

DoctorAlien:
who is this?

That is actually the opinion of many scientists, including Vilenkin and Hawking. Mind you, they're not Christians.

what do you think a state of maximum disorder means? It doesn't mean scatteredness, as in disordeliness. It means a state in which there is no more usable energy. The temperature of everywhere in the universe would be the same. No work can done in such a state because no energy is available for it.

UyiIredia:
Noted. It's like water cycle so it's reformed not created and destroyed but why do you deny an eternal cause is unchangable.

If something changes eternally something must make it change not so.

DoctorAlien:
IKR. Any open-minded person will find it very hard to resist their arguments for creation and for the Bible. They're good.

DoctorAlien:
he doesn't know. An author, writing about physicists' opinion on the beginning of the universe, put it this way:

"And Vilenkin said that while cyclic universes have an “irresistible poetic charm and bring to mind the Phoenix” (quoting the late Belgian astronomer and priest Georges Lemaître), the model was hopelessly wrong in its predictions of the universe’s level of order today. If there had indeed already been an infinite number of cycles, the universe today should be in a state of maximum disorder. As the New Scientist article pointed out:

“Such a universe would be uniformly lukewarm and featureless, and definitely lacking such complicated beings as stars, planets and physicists—nothing like the one we see around us.”3
The attempted rescue suggestion, viz. that the universe just gets bigger with every cycle, therefore isn’t yet at maximum disorder, also fails on the same point as the eternal inflation model. I.e., “if your universe keeps getting bigger, it must have started somewhere.” ".
https://creation.com/universe-had-a-beginning

UyiIredia:
I can't repeat this enough: an eternal cause must be unchangable.

Do you know how stupid the cyclic universe sounds: Precisely how does something that is created and destroyed be eternal?

LordReed:
Because he is not following where the evidence leads, he is making a leap. He also fails to take into account all of the facts. Consider that so far life is in a very low minority in this universe and considering that there are probably uncountable planets with the conditions earth finds itself, how does he arrive at design? Unless of course he is willing to concede that the designer is rather wasteful, inefficient and not very good at design.

Another analogy: You have a million naira in cash in your wardrobe. Only you knows the money is in there, only you has access to open the wardrobe. One day you take out the money and count it, you find 1 naira is missing. Do you immediately think "someone has stolen my 1 naira!" or you are more likely to think it either it fell as you took out the money or it is still in the cupboard?

One does not quickly jump to agency when the evidence does not point there or else you seem like a crazy person.

MJBOLT:

winning awards is not a problem for the movie

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt4633694/awards

bobo65:
Had to put d movie on pause
Reading and watching ain't really my thing
I prefer watching hearing n reading

johnydon22:
I'm ironically lacking atheists with meaningful contributions to this thread.

One would expect atheists to be logical and what not as we have always posited on this board.

Seems the atheists on this board shy away from discussions that puts them in an uncomfortable position.

Who knows which atheist is which to tag to this thread?

DoctorAlien do you?

Ihedinobi3:
You are also assuming that the Universe will exist forever. Your assumption is correct but you clearly believe it for no reason.

As for how the Universe exists, there is no argument that something created and sustains it. That is the only way to explain both its existence and its decay.

As for whether the Creator of the Universe is my God, of course, Jesus Christ is the Creator of the Universe. But you are free to believe whatever you want about that. Just as you are free to believe in any philosophical contortions you please in this matter.

As for what we know, we know both that the Universe exists and that it was created too. It takes incredible faith to believe that it either just happened out of nothing or is self-existing.

As for God, He didn't give us the Universe to understand. He gave us the Universe to live in and make a choice about Him. The Universe is how He teaches us that He exists and will reward every choice we make about Him.

As for what you believe, that is entirely your choice. I can tell you the Truth, but I can't tell you what to believe. That is all on you.