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Jozzy4:
Will hell be burned forever in fire ( rev 20:14) ?

You know, the problem is that most of you guys always try to figure out spiritual things with your small brain.

There is a famous minister that went to hell and said that she discovered hell was a body. Body of whom? I don't know. Hell itself had legs, arms, a head e.t.c.

All those parts of hell were different chambers for different kinds of torments. The head I think was were the worst punishments were.

Now I am not saying that her testimony is one to base your belief upon. It could be true and at the same time not true.

But if it is true? will it not make sense that hell a body will be thrown in the lake of fire itself.

My point is, stop trying to kill yourself with trying to understand things that God has hidden (just to try and console yourself that there is no fire in hell or something) why don't you focus more on what Jesus told you to focus on.

ruffbamreal:
Bro, How come a number written in three places is differently written and still mean the same number? Have you seen where six(6) is written this way 6 § &? Am sure 6 will always be 6, 7 will always be 7 and so on.

I'ts Six hundred and sixty six not just six six six. They each have their own symbols.

Ya get?

There is a way it was explained.

Just to buttress his point

He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Why is it that when most people sleep facing upwards, they have Nightmares?

Note: The person it not on medication of any sorts.

I have seen all sorts of explanations online but they are all speculations.

Wow! This is like the coolest Co-op game mode I've ever seen for an action game. Definitely will be better than that of Gears of War.

Guys do not forget to drop your PSN Id's when this gets out.

As an adventure lover, Nathan Drake and Lara Croft are making me Happy.

BTW, the Rise of the Tomb raider has got very high ratings.

Allow me to vent my Irritation at the way Most Nigerians have been acting on various Social Media platforms.

I see Nigerians changing their profile pics to France's flag and saying things like "pray for France" when they themselves don't pray for their country Nigeria. Scores of Nigerians die almost everyday as a result of Boko Haram attacks yet I don't see Nigerians give the kind of support to victims in those states as they are giving to France which is a foreign Country. All they will do in their so called support for the Nigerian victims is say "Eeeyah" and that is all, they go back to petty discussions and lifestyles.

Or is it some Christians I see in Church that when prayers are to be made for Nigeria they become Uninterested and busy themselves with frivolous things, but when it's time to kill their enemies, they will shout and bind on top of their voices. It's those same people that want to form praying for France.

We Nigerians just love to "worship white people" we love to form "being among" or "being part of.." when the truth is most of these people don't give a hoot about us.

I am not saying we shouldn't support them. But let's stop our Hypocrisy and support our own first.

If at all you will actually truly Pray, then...

Pray For Nigeria!

and also

Pray For France!

Thank you!

Cc: Lalasticlala

Teempakguy:
and i'm saying that Nothing in the christian faith is not supposed to make sense. god, or jesus, which is the son of god anyway, is the author and finisher of your faith. this means he wrote and designed everything in it. since he is not the author of confusion as well, nothing about you guy's religion should need to be explained or should not suppose to make sense.

in case you didn't get anything i just said, here is a summary in bold. the sentence "it's not supposed to make sense" should not be said about any aspect of your religion.

se fini

In case you didn't get my point also, there are things in Christianity that is not supposed to make sense to the human fleshly mind. E.g. Jesus placing spittle on a blind man's eye to get him to see.

So trying to understand those things logically will never make sense.

Finis.

Teempakguy:
i just showed you where the bible proved that stupidity and confusion is not allowed in the christian religion. you said the religion is not supposed to make sense. in other words, it's supposed to be confusing. and i told you otherwise. i'm not trying to make sense. i just told you the truth.

Next time read a message in its context.

I never said religion is not supposed to make sense.

Some people are just dumb.

So when God said you could eat of every other tree but not of the good and evil, so that means Eve could sleep with every other animal apart from Adam but not the Serpent.

How dumb can some people get and still breathe.

This NL is just full of messed up and confused minds.

tartar9:
go and check jewish history and Arab history and see who's really cursed.

I have a lot to say to you but you can't bear them now.

plappville:
Ishmael Cursed?

The Angel of God gives a pronouncement about the child in Hagars womb.

(Genesis 16:10-12 ) 10 “I will increase your descendants so much that they will be too numerous to count.”


11 “You will give birth to a son. You shall name him Ishmael, for the Lord has hear of your misery.”


12 “He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”

Did God cursed Ishmael Seeing what is happening today. You will conclude that The so-called Arab people are cursed through Ishmael they kill others and also kill themselves. People hate them because they hate others. They like violence. Thier children live and grow up in a violent environment. They see nothing wrong in it. What exactly is this statement from God . Curse or blessing?

I was actually going to post this myself.

It wasn't a curse but a prophesy of what was to happen.

And we obviously see that today. Islam is the wildest religion on the face of the earth.

Majority of the nations of the earth are against Islam while Islam has contributed a lot of destructions to the nations of the earth.

An acid test to show the infallibility of the Word.

Teempakguy:
I love the hypocrisy in this entire post. but the bolded is especially epic.

1 corinthians, dear sir. chapter 14 vs 33.


stop. stop. stop frustrating yourself and everyone else.

peace.

Lol! For your mind you have made sense.

Only God knows what you just wrote.

Its not a must you must comment.

Peace!.

frank317:
So what is God doing about it? No! The reason why man is suffering is because God is doing nothing about it or because what he is doing about the world he created on his on choice is not working.


Of course God has nature and his nature is the problem not man. His nature is obviously not working well for man he created. Man is just a victim of his nature.


We are still saying the same thing. You give rules to people you know are not capable of obeying. Weren't u the one that created them to be free even after giving them the brain to be what they are? What kind if Gid is he anyway. What kind of game is this?


This is so petty to me, he should be above this. No wonder humans as so proud. He'd rather see his creation suffer despite knowing what they are capable of than let his pride down... His nature is our curse. He is God, everything is his creation... Why is he competing for attention with his creation. Petty petty petty... Yet man suffers.


Its not clear... If things are clear to man he makes fewer mistakes.


This is laughable... Yet he gave us brain and gave us choice.


Well, can't he see that this style is not working? Does he not really care about his creations?



This is not fair... How does God expect us to react when we think life is not fair?

You blame God for what the enemy is doing.

Well, if you think so . I leave you with your thoughts.

Peace!.

frank317:
You know, its just so funny, and I don't really understand how all these makes sense to, I wish I could understand.

God created man by his own choice...

He gave man choice despite all the limitations... Man can't see spirit with invisible eyes, there are things even an eagle or a snail can do man cannot do.

He gave man brain and as God, understands the particular way man thinks in given situations. He should understand why a Muslim will not change to a christian even at gun point. That's why he is God. He should understand why a good man will steal in a desperate situation to save his son, that's why he is God. He should understand why man which he created cannot live by the commandments because he is God. He should know why I, Frank, think he does not exist.

Its just so funny.

Life is nothing but pain caused by Lucifer (according to the bible), a being we have never seen, but God knows him and what he is capable of.

Yet God's will for us are not clear cut... We can't even see or know it before it occurs. We are at the mercy of what our brain tells us base on things we can see.

Millions are suffering, millions are in pain. Millions don't understand. The so called commandments does not make sense to none Christians. Yet not all Christians can live by it.

But God, despite all he knows, despite creating man by his own choice, despite knowing what man is capable of, even wit the presence of Lucifer to decieve him, despite not making his will easy to understand and see, despite mans ability to think for himself.... Sits on his throne and wait to judge man and reward him only after life.

Wasn't he the one that sent Jesus his son to die? Why didn't he kill Jesus himself. But because he knew what man was capable of, he allowed the process. This means he knows man but judges man for what he knows about man.


IT MAKES NO SENSE.

Clearly, you have a lot of questions.

The reason why you suffer or others suffer and even generations will continue to suffer is because of your forefathers before you.

God has a nature. The same way you have a nature, you might like ice cream and another hate it. Well, God has His.

God repeatedly told the forefathers that they should be careful to obey and follow Him if not whatever sin or wrong they commit will ripple across their generations and affect them.

"You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,"

BTW, God's will for everyone on earth is very clear cut. His grande/eternal future will is the one that you can say is not yet clear. Because that is not needed right now.

The issue is that you people ask too many questions, when God has said many times that His thoughts and ways are higher than that of man and His was are unsearchable.

Its only His individual will for your life you can know for now.

IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO MAKE SENSE.

God could have done this things in many other ways people think God should do it, but see what was said of Him:

" 1 Cor-Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. 22For indeed Jews ask for signs and Greeks search for wisdom;…"

Even God calls preaching, foolishness. He could have used many other ways to reveal Himself but He said it pleased Him to choose what we call preaching.

So everyone can cry from now till 50 years for God to come down and reveal Himself, but it will not happen. We just have to learn to get with the program.

Faith is the nature of God.

Are you ready to kill a baby and drink it's blood?

There is a price to pay.

frank317:
Okay, this is very clear. Thanks.


From the above, God's will is basically about after life. We could say he cares less about what we go through now, I mean from the look of things. He even said it that narrow is the way; this implies how difficult his route is. Beside his continuous invisible stance makes following his will not clearly understood.
Every thing is obscured, so many religion. So many reasons to be dogmatic in the route u were born in and all that... Why the confusion and obscurity?

Well thanks for the explanation anyways.




Lol... I Don't agree with this. My grand dad died a pagan and he died the happiest man I ever known. You can never assume that people died miserably because they don't believe in what u believe in. Thousands die happily and thousands more die miserably... In all no one actually loves dying except suicide bombers.

My conclusion... God can't have his will for us yet we struggle to find it. It makes no sense. We should know except this is some sort of game to him.

Well, to me, it can't be God if its not obvious.

Thanks for your time and I am glad you have found his will for you... But remember, what is your God doing about millions struggling?

Well,most suicide terrorists die happy. It's not about dying happy. Boko Haram members are happy dying for virgins.

But anyways, For all those struggling in the world, the deaths, the famine e.t.c. God can't do anything for them on His own. He has laws and He sticks to those laws. Spirit beings are not allowed physical activity on the earth except they take on flesh or a Fleshly Man does something to allow them activity on the earth.

That is why He has giving commandments, if we don't follow them as a whole, then forget it, deaths, famines and hunger continues till the end of time.

This is a whole teaching on it's own.

Osahon7:
can I contact you privately! I actually want to pour out my heart to you! But nt on dis public place

No problem! Send me a PM. I don't want to put my Number or anything here.

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i want to know... are God's will his alone? i want to believe since we have one God that means his will is not competing with any other creatures will in terms of Good will. that mean only God want Good will for us. Accepted?

if i assume the above is accepted by you... can there be other route to this God's will apart from his particular route?
you mentioned some of god's will (school, type of Job, who to marry) can we achieve all these through other route? i have idea of God's (at least the christian God) route and know a couple of people who achieve all the mentioned and are happy without following the route.. what do you say about them

Let me put it this way- A basket ball is made for the Game BasketBall. You could also use a Basketball to play a 90 minutes football match effectively and happily, but that does not mean it's original purpose was for Football. Humans are created for a specific purpose by God. The Bible says "All things were created for His pleasure". If God for instance wants you to be a Medical Doctor, that doesn't mean you can't choose to ignore it and become a business man and eventually be on Forbes list. You can follow any route you like in life.

But understand this, God sees the bigger picture. He is not only concerned about the here and now, but the time to come and also for the souls he would love to reach out to through that persons calling. He has said many times in His word that those that pay the price to follow His plan for their life will be greatly rewarded in the time to come. If one chose not to follow God's plan, that person will not be rewarded even if the person was a billionaire in whatever profession He/She chose. So it is not about "seeming" happiness or even money. What we call success, His own idea of success is different from Man's.

can one still be happy in another way, if he misses out God's will?
Again, if you miss out on God's will, how will you know you have missed out... how will you know that miss out is not already God's will for you to achieve a greater will?

Yes you can be "seemingly" happy. Especially as you continue to bombard your mind with all sorts of pleasures and activities.

There are different ways to know you missed out on His will:

You become miserable (This is for those that are born again and signed that they will do God's will and they know it but they choose another way).

There is a void an emptiness (you can't know this except you stop bombarding yourself with all sorts of pleasures and activities that is why most people on their death beds regret many things they never thought of before. cause when they were still active they were engaged in and busy with all sorts of activities. On their death beds, they have a lot of time to think constructively about life).

And There are others.

Osahon7:
thanks sir for your explanation! Buh do you realli tink God is actively iinterested on which Career path we follow, the Schools we Attend, the course we study etc? Becos that's the whole idea of me creating this topic

Yes He is.

He has a specific plan for everyone. But you need to pass a particular route (school, type of job, who to marry e.t.c) He planned for you to achieve it.

If you eventually miss out on the original route He had, He can still re-route circumstances, plan, events, people to make sure you still meet up with His will.

E.g. David and Bathsheba. It wasn't God's will for David to sleep with Bathsheba, But God did it that later the Messiah came from Her line. And many other examples.

If you ask and seek Him long enough, you will see that He will direct you on even the tiniest issues.

Osahon7:
Yes sir!

There is God's will as revealed by His word- i.e Love your neighbors, flee from immorality, do not lie e.t.c

And There is God's will as revealed by the Holy Spirit to your Spirit which is not in the word of God- i.e Your calling, who to marry, where to live e.t.c

The second one is never against the first one. The second one can happen in many ways i.e. Coincidence, inner witness, still small voice, prophecy e.t.c.

Not every coincidental evident or circumstance is directed by God. If you are travelling and your tire goes flat, it doesn't mean God wants to stop you from your journey. It could also be God wanting to stop you from the journey.

The only way you can know God's will in an event or something is for someone to sensitive to the Holy Spirit and close to Him. If you are not, then you can never know. You will just be guessing and enter into confusion. And eventually you will miss out on the path God has for you and the Devil can even end up killing you.

Rom 12:1&2 is the guideline to achieving that. If you don't die to yourself and the world, you will never know and be sensitive to God's perfect will.

Eph 5:17 "making the most of your time, because the days are evil. So then do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is. And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit,…"

Osahon7:
nice one

Are you a Christian?

Please, you guys should confirm stuffs before you post them.

This stuff has been around for months now. The news wasn't true. Its false o.

I love C.S. Lewis quotes, simple but yet profound.


“Atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning.”
-C.S. Lewis (‘Mere Christianity.’)

When words fail to describe the dismay, there is always a double facepalm.

jaegermesiter:
This is the biggest lie I have heard, and goes to show u knw NOTHING abt Catholic christianity

For you to say it is a lie, that means you must have proof that it is a lie.

If you don't have proof, then don't bother quoting me.

Bossforeva:
in Lekki Lagos.. Send me a RPM let me link u up with him if u dn't mind.

Thanks! I actually just checked google and saw his contact details on Instagram.

Bossforeva:
Cool Ride, Davido please take that Ride to Khaz Custom, for an Exciting paint job, super cars don't stand out on plain black and silver rims.

Bruv! is there a Khaz Custom in Nigeria? If they have a branch in Naija, where is it?

KingEbukasBlog:
1 Corinthians 14:33

33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

The bible text above is about something entirely different from the Towel of Babel event

Thank you my brother.

I saw this thread and didn't even want to comment before.

Sometimes I wonder how some people have it hard comprehending a message.

People should learn to read or analyse a message in its context.

vooks:
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Am not one given to wresting scriptures
What is the purpose of 'as in all the churches of the Saints'?

Was that part of the question?

You know what, just google Maria Etter and read her story. Right now I am busy and can't start expounding scriptures.

If God is opposed to Women teaching in public, why will he allow so much power in this woman's ministry? Power that affected streets far away from her camp meetings.

And you know Jesus only confirms His will with signs and wonders following. Jesus is not confused like you said. He will not confirm and give full support to something that is against His will.