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Is this thread needless yes or no? No its not needless. It helps to show us that the theist,deist, atheist are not saint or holier than thou' . Next time whilst bashing the theist for foul play, we would remember the ungodly disciple of Dawkins.

@Sweetnecta. No one can fight for God or his messengers. . U cant love a man more than your self. That's idolatry. Jesus said in mark12 That love your neighbour as your self and not more than yourself

truly:
I cannot imagine Jesus Christ (PBUH) referring to human beings in this manner

Yes sir/ma. Jesus was very meek and gentle. He was sinless and couldn't have said so. But me i am a human being like ur self. ok?

@ jcross19, Chuksxp, yommyuk and toba

U guys shouldnt bother educating folks that are enemies with wisdom, knowledge and truth. I cant imagine anyone in hs/hr correct sense referring to the muslims mohammad as the comforter or trying to equate christ with the islamic mohammad.

@ Chuksxp, yommyuk. I love ur latest posts its really revealing

Chuksxp:
Funny how you keep echoing: GIVE ME EVIDENCE! Where exactly is your evidence. You have been trying to use the Quran to prove the validity of the Quran. That's called circular reasoning.

Do you believe that God is omnipotent? Do you believe that with God, nothing is impossible. They why are you trying to put a limit on God's unlimited power? If God can do anything, don't you think He would be able to pause the laws of nature by sending His Son into the world through a virgin.

Revelation 4:11-12
Then I looked and heard the voice of many angels, numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand. They encircled the throne and the living creatures and the elders. In a loud voice they were saying:
“Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and praise!”

yommyuk:
Thanks Niyi53 for providing the link below where I can go and dismantle the errors of Islam. God Bless! what a find! Made my job easier
http://www.alislam.org/books/in-bible/index.html

But the comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. (John 14-26) Only the prophet of Islam could have fulfilled this prophecy of Jesus. Muhammad was truly sent in his name because he bore testimony to his truth. 

Muhammand, the comforter? what a joke

On four occasions, Jesus used an unusual word called in Greek "parakietos", called alongside "advocate" to describe the Holy Spirit (John 14:16,26; 15:26; 16:7). The same term occurs in Greek literature where it refers to a legal advocate - someone who speaks in a person's defense and provides legal counsel. "Counselor" is a popular translation of this term, but the therapeutic connotations of this word in contemporary English are misleading. The older legal meaning of a lawyer providing advice and counsel is closer to the mark. "Comforter" is another popular translation, but this is also misleading, the older English meaning of someone who strengthens (an "encourager" is more accurate. So first and foremost, the word "Comforter" used by the islamic scholars on the website you provided is not "sound".

Jesus promised that the Holy Spirit would come to encourage, instruct and strenghten his followers. In fact, the spirit would sustain Jesus own presence among his disciples.

The Holy Spirit became available to Jesus disciples after his death (John 7:39, 20:22)

John 7:39
By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified Only for those who believe in him

John 20:21-22
Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you." And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. This was before Jesus ASCENDED into Heaven. Was Muhammed born then? and what did Jesus do? BREATH!

John 14:16
"And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever"
John 14:26
But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.
John 15:26
"When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me."
John 16:7
"But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you."

The Holy spirit now continues the work of Jesus "Christ" and his presence in the life of Christians. The Holy spirit cannot dwell in the dead but the living. Jesus Chist is Alive and kicking while Mohammed is death and gone.

I will get more trash from the website later. Cheers and God bless

vedaxcool:
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"Do not cut your nose so that u can spit on your face"

Whats the relevance of this to my question? Here is what i asked

'Is the bible not filled with trash when it says this in Jonh 14 vs 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; ehn?'
Hope u rem telling me the bible is filled with trash, kindly respond to the corresponding question to ur post

vedaxcool:
[b]Go and ask your Pastor who Drives Hummer at your expense how old they are when they started pinching the [/b]Church Pot, How old was Jesus when he was teaching his elders sense? Yeah right, another of your numerous dumb questions you asked, as people like you think it is only when all your beards are gray and touching the floor before you can be called wise.

You getting agitated over small issue. This has no relevance to my post that u have quoted. Zubair was scared that Nigerian muslims can be radicalized by telling them the truth. I simply told u thats as a result of the level of intolerance in Islam. How on earth will a sect go mad cos of a simple truth?

vedaxcool:
Your post complained that becoz of the riots the Miss world show was moved to England, if not :n[size=18pt]o wonder Nigeria in 2002[size=25pt] lost the rights[/size] to host the miss world [/size]beauty pageant cos a Thisday news paper report said' this ladis are beautify if prophet mohammad were to be alive he would have taken one of them as a wife'. The next was for the so called radicals to start trouble and the competition was moved to England. This shows the level of tolerance in Islam the 'religion of pieces piece' HOSTING miss world is a right in Christianity.

According to who? Many countries do send their girls to the competition that aren't necessarily Christian countries do u know that as well?

vedaxcool:
Yeah we read a lot of poor sense from you. You said the cheif Imam said Yar'dua was ok, yet he died afterwards only proves how lies and falsehood is "Nuclear" weapon in your missionary armory, as the Imam said Yardua was not as sick as people said he was and that Yardua could not speak, meaning he was yet to fully recover, again isn't possible for some one to be well and die late, as a lot of people have slept and die yet they were in good health, you see your method of reasoning is nothing short of intellectual Drudgery.

Why are u lying? I saw the interview my self and the way ur Imam spoke was that of a confident man that Yar adua responded to them well and that he has FULLY RECOVERED. He went further to say that in less than 2weeks from the friday they went visiting, yar adua was going to resume at the villa. Seh na lie? Why did he and his cohorts received heavy criticism from many Nigerians over their comments on yar adua. I know many muslims that criticized them as well for being accomplices to Turai in a bid for yar adua not to yield power. So i also made up what was evident?

vedaxcool:
Yet you replied 90% nonesense is it an indication of the kind of nonesense you enjoy reading, poor sense indeed.

No sir this is the 3rd direct post of yours that i'm responding to. It forms part of the remaining 10% that can be considered fair

vedaxcool:
Asari dokubo is not part of mend he is in the leader of NDVF, again you are quite Ignorant of what we are talking about, again you showed t=how honest you are, as you want us to believe the N/delta is a Muslim majority area. InshaALLAHU it will be, but as at now the ND is dominated by Christians and like I said "Mainly Christian" are in MEND and other ND Militias.

Let me tell u another thing that u don't know sir. The ex militant went on a solidarity visit to Aso rock to see Jonathan few days after the October 1st bomb blast. The likes of boy loaf, asari and others said 'we are the original Mend and since the amnesty of 2009, Mend ceases to exist' Thats according to them. We all saw it on TV as well. I referenced that by saying Asari used to be part of Mend as he was a muslim. Any other thing?

why do u think that Mend is dominated by Christians as against being dominated by atheists or non Christians?

vedaxcool:
it Seems you Know nothing. Do have a pleasant day.

well i have got alot, but your way of responding is really tiring. Do have a pleasant day ur self

vedaxcool:
From the Above you will note that jesusNl is a master in the art of dribbling his way from answering question, [b]may be he learnt that from Jonatan [/b]I wish he could driblle like this when playing ball which will be more beneficial than dribbling your way from Heaven.

Like i said above don't bring up irrelevances. Lets discuss like gentle men

@vedaxcool i'll need to give u some tutorials on some subjects. U'll get a response.

You came in a haste to defend ur bro, however ur post is even worse than that of the person u are trying to defend.

vedaxcool:
And you are who? Yes a Christian extremist who believes insulting people's parents is a child's play.

This shows how illogical u are once again. I will require u to show me a direct post of mine that where i have openly through a statement affirmed that the bull crap bolded was supported by me. If u failed to do so , then an a bid f.ool. But if u can how me just one post that i said to u that i believe insulting people's parents is a child's play, then u wouldn't be a f.oo.l. deal?

vedaxcool:
Really, We believe in Jesus as stated in the Qur'an, a messenger of ALLAH, and as Jesus stated "a Servant of God"  and who said "I can by myself  do nothing". We Muslim agree you Christians say he is lying.Auzobillah

Bull crap. U must believe or else hell awaits u. U also forgot that jesus said in john 14 vs

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Tells us without believing in him u stand to loose out. U also forgot that the quran calls him a messiah and described his birth as an act of God which till date same is yet to be experienced of any man not even mohammed no? U will be wrong not to believe in such a special one.

vedaxcool:
Muhammam S.A.W brought tranquility to Mecca and the arab world as the Arabs were always fighting each other, he condemned racism and kept warning on the evils of racism, which all of his companion and a great number of Muslims equally follow, he rejected the burying of female as ALLAH condemns in the Qur'an the burying of females alive, The prophet fought against injustice and inequality, which is still a problem in our modern day life.

What do u have to say about his many battles and numerous atrocities and crimes against humanity that he committed? he was a racist. he hated the Jews till death. He fought war in months declared sacred by allah. The qualities u are trying to ascribe to him is not fitting for a person that lived like a criminal

vedaxcool:
So many good fruits Islam bore and is still bearing yet your fanatical extremism has left you dishonest at every Junction.

The greatest of them is terrorism. Killing innocent pple in the name of jihad. Hatred for those that doesn't believe in mohammad and islam. Maltreatment of women. etc 'very very good fruit'. Boko haram sect is also a good fruit in Bauchi Ngr

vedaxcool:
you said "od did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world,[/b] but to save the world through him." Yet you sin every day, poor you god son's intervention did not stop u and your cohorts from being sinners. liars and Funicators in fact you and your cohorts are becoming more and more evil every day yet god son's intervened.

Before i decided to respond to ur post, i took my time to review ur previous post and came to the conclusion that over 90% of them are trash. I'm not surprised with the bolded part that absolutely makes little sense in terms of whats beind said here. Islam breeds more wicked and devilish pple more than those of any other religion. Mohammad, osama bin laden and sadam hussein are good examples

vedaxcool:
Nonsense seems to be your specialty, as The prophet was the most righteous man that ever walked the earth, dealing fairly and not engaging in indecency, something you and your pastors do every now and then.

Oh God whats this? do u know he took the wife of his adopted son? do u know that he robbed pple? How then will u describe Jesus that never sinned and wasn't conceived the way mohammad was conceive? Your post is worse. Most of our present day pastors are better than Mohammad. Rem Jesus never slept with any woman like mohammad and every other men did. That status is too much for mohammad

vedaxcool:
Just as you also believe in the Qur'an,hypocrite indeed.

Only Muslims can do so and not someone like me

vedaxcool:
The word corrupted simply means "altered or changed" and yes the bible is corrupted as Jesus is not the author of any of these anonymous books who bear false names as there is no proof mathew wrote "according to mathew" "Luke wrote accoreding to luke" etc, Adam was a perfect persons since he was not concieved through intimacy, don't you see how foolish your thinking is? All men are imperfect including Jesus and Prophet Muhammad S.A.W, as only God is perfect The Corrupted bible have the following fooleries:

Since u know some of the contents of the corrupted bible, where is the uncorrupted version of the bible? Have u read it? Is the gospel of John 14 included in the corrupted version of the bible?

vedaxcool:
1. Matthew and Luke disagree

Matthew and Luke give two contradictory genealogies for Joseph (Matthew 1:2-17 and Luke 3:23-38). They cannot even agree on who the father of Joseph was. Church apologists try to eliminate this discrepancy by suggesting that the genealogy in Luke is actually Mary's, even though Luke says explicitly that it is Joseph's genealogy (Luke 3:23). Christians have had problems reconciling the two genealogies since at least the early fourth century. It was then that Eusebius, a "Church Father," wrote in his The History of the Church, "each believer has been only too eager to dilate at length on these passages."

A. WHAT DID JOHN THE BAPTIST KNOW ABOUT JESUS AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT?

John's first encounter with Jesus was while both of them were still in their mothers' wombs, at which time John, apparently recognizing his Saviour, leaped for joy (Luke 1:44). Much later, while John is baptizing, he refers to Jesus as "the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world", and "the Son of God" (John 1:29,36). Later still, John is thrown in prison from which he does not return alive. John's definite knowledge of Jesus as the son of God and saviour of the world is explicitly contradicted by Luke 7:18-23 in which the imprisoned John sends two of his disciples to ask Jesus, "Are you the one who is coming, or do we look for someone else?"
B. WHY DID JOHN BAPTIZE JESUS?

John baptized for repentance (Matthew 3:11). Since Jesus was supposedly without sin, he had nothing to repent of. The fact that he was baptized by John has always been an embarrassment to the church. The gospels offer no explanation for Jesus' baptism, apart from the meaningless explanation given in Matthew 3:14-15 "to fulfill all righteousness." Other passages, which indicate that Jesus did not consider himself sinless, are also an embarrassment to the church (Mark 10:18, Luke 18:19).

Luke, who claims to be chronological (Luke 1:3), tries to give the impression that John did not baptize Jesus. Luke's account of Jesus' baptism occurs after the account of John's imprisonment (Luke 3:20-21).

Just too lame. Is the gospel of john and Deuteronomy accurate and not corrupted? Kindly show me the uncorrupted version of the bible

vedaxcool:
Jesus said I can by myself do nothing, so believe in a god that can do nothing that is you cup of garri.

Jesus is able and in fact more than able to do so many things. Revering God is based on absolute humility. take this
matt 28 vs

17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 # Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen.
Say something new

vedaxcool:
Nonsensical indeed.

Yea really 'nonsensical' all u have posted herein

vedaxcool:
The bible is filled with trash, such as a child being older than his father so what would you expect?

Is the bible not filled with trash when it says this in Jonh 14 vs 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; ehn?

vedaxcool:
Shameless jesusNl so Hosting miss world is part of being a good Christian? Na wa if it hurts u that u were unable to see those semi-unclothed girls body then why don't just go to the campus and stair as u like. People should see the kind of JesusNl Christianity has produced that cry's over the fact that he could not see those Semi-unclothed Girls bodies. Na wao.

Let me ask u how old are u? your mentality i just too poor to grab the scenario i posted. ur muslim brother said 'toba you are not achieving any gain from insulting the Prophet and spreading lies by doing so you will only radicalize your fellow Nigerian Muslims ', which was why i brought up the irrationality of islam based on a comment which is this

toba: Once again i say it boldly that mr mo deserves to be insulted. Another terrorism intent word with bolded. U know muslims are radicals. Just becos a man is being insulted u guys can go on rampage and kill pple? no wonder Nigeria in 2002 lost the rights to host the miss world beauty pageant cos a Thisday news paper report said' this ladis are beautify if prophet mohammad were to be alive he would have taken one of them as a wife'. The next was for the so called radicals to start trouble and the competition was moved to England. This shows the level of tolerance in Islam the 'religion of pieces piece'

What does my post suggests above? Can u find anything related to seeing unclothed girls? or going to the university campus? Pls use ur brain to reason and not ur hand mr man. Ur religion brought disgrace to Nigeria through intolerance thats what im talking about and not the nonsense u have above

vedaxcool:
How many people went on rampage? an insignificant few. but trust the Hypocrites since three became one, 1 became a thousand, to them this insignificant few are  a billion, u guys have number issues.  since the christian colonialist came to Africa Africa has perpetually suffered all sorts of evil and Like the Christian went to America they Massacred the Natives and made them a minority. But you only know what your Ogas want you to know that is why your pastors drive hummers and fly private Jets yet you continue to dey waka waka, with no car in sight.

shake my head. Tell us how ilam was brought to Nigeria. Remember when yar adua was dying it was ur chief iman that told the world that he was ok, only for him to die afterwards. What else can be said about islam?

vedaxcool:
Look who is talking, the being that cannot argue without insulting other people, Did expect you to be honest

What about u? I took my time and read ur previous posts and over 90% makes no sense

vedaxcool:
Go and read Toba many "tolerant post" Mr. tolerance?.

I have reviewd the previous posts of u both. hes not 100% not guilty, but u are worse

vedaxcool:
The boko haram[b] was tragic in every respec[/b]t but Just like mend they decided to waste human life simply to press home their needs,

This is the only truth u have spoken thus far.

vedaxcool:
let me ask this fanatic the following

I don't think u know who a fanatic really is. Tell me if u do and also tell me who have been more of a fanatic between us?

vedaxcool:
1. MEND: are mainly Christians who kill and Miam and Kidnapped to press home their needs, Is MEND a terrorist organization or a missionary organization.

can u pls prove to me the bolded part beyond reasonable doubt? Asari Dokubo also used to be part of mend was he a muslim or a christian?

vedaxcool:
2. In ABA the Spate of Kidnappings have gone out of control the question is are ABA residents Muslims or Christians?

I don't know pls tell me

vedaxcool:
3. Prostitution in Nigeria is common among Christian areas true or false? is it part of the fruits of Christianity or not?

So many questions one can ask but let me leave this few to you if you can answer them.

U will also have to prove this to me cos i dont know the answer

peace

vedaxcool:
I am not surprise with your response and level of honesty, as it is often said "Evil doers are helpers to one another", one should ask this jesusNL whether this is how Jesus A.S will behave if any case like this was brought to him? but obviously there are no grounds for comparison as One should ask jesusNL whether he at all read what Mudley wrote? I guess he did, and since Mudley being an atheist whose religion? (to jesusNL) has lots of common grounds with the religion jesusNL and Toba practice, Bias colored his eyes, and he decided to  supported his co-religionist to obtain his gods blessing as any who read what Mudley wrote will know that insulting peoples parents or asserting other people parents are dead is no good behavior at all and evidently deserves deletion, and like I have often hear the wise say only people who have no parents insult other peoples parents, , but jesusNL can't see that no all he can see is what Veda wrote and hence finds insulting people parents worthy of reading, pls change your name from jesus as u are making a mockery of the name. I leave you with a quote " Hypocrisy is a disease, that destroys truth and honesty in man".

Jesoul I threw no punches all I did was to "say", "some people are not worth answering", if he found that insulting then I wonder whether calling him an atheist is not enough insult?   now I mean no insults there, Jesoul but I will take heed to your warning. DO have a pleasant Moderation.

Jesoul u better warn this chap. Im tougher than both mudley and toba in terms of sharp responses to insults. I will go as far as teaching u how to write well in English as very obvious from ur posts that u still needed to be taught use of English Gns 101 for Jambites

Note: Atheism isn't a Religion goon

These is just too lame from a fundamentalist and I"ll help a bro respond

zubeyr:
Once again you show how petit mean spirited and liar you are

What about you posting? all u done here is ignorantly tried to justify what is unjustifiable no?

zubeyr:
We Muslim believe that God ' gracious gift of love was to send the Prophet Mohamed for all mankind regardless of race and color

Then u muslims have an erroneous believe thats against reality. Cos Jesus is the only way to salvation and thats why the muslims also believe in him unlike mohammed that most Christians doesn't believe in. john 3 vs 16. tells us

'16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.'
I cant find this referring to mohammad. Cos hes not the gracious gift to anyone other than muslims that love to deceive themselves like u.
17 says[b] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world,[/b] but to save the world through him.
Mohammad condemned many and killed many as well

fafa fao

zubeyr:
We believe the Koran is God 's word that it is the guide and rule of our life and that it meets all of man's spiritual needs

Well it may be a guide to muslims blind folded by the deceit of mohammad but not to all men cos as a man its nothing to me

zubeyr:
We believe Prophet Mohamed' s  command to call all nations to believe that there is no God but Allah and Mohamed is his servant and Messenger

Well u are free to believe what ever trash u like

zubeyr:
[b]We believe that Mohamed (PUH) is the seal of the Prophets [/b]and was sent to  restore the true faith and to tell  people that there  are two destinies for the soul  after death heaven or hell and that we can choose today to serve and believe in  Allah and His Prophet

Thats another erroneous belief. My pastor prophet is currently doing better than mohammad. he doesn't kill and neither does he fornicate. I can never believe is someone that lived like a criminal all his life even till death

zubeyr:
Insulting the Prophet won't make you win the argument and it doesn't make any sense it shows how desperate [/b]intolerant and ignorant you are and for  you  I found my consolation in this verse "Those who harm Allah and his Messenger Allah has cursed them in this world and in the next and has prepared for them a humiliating punishment"  Koran      Alahzaab 33 :57

Well he deserves to be insulted cos of the way he lived his life in a reckless manner. what do u have to say about ur muslims cohort that also insult the christian faith and jesus?

zubeyr:
[b] Jesus was mentioned in the Koran and treated with reverence and respec[/b]t and according to the Koran the Prophet Mohamed was mentioned in the Bible by his name Ahmed  [b]and  in the book of John chapter 14 16 17  mentioned  as the comforter and  the spirit of truth 

The first bolded part makes sense whilst others doesn't. Please show me any part of the bible that the name Ahmed or Mohammad appears therein? Was mohammads name mentioned in the gospel of John? this is really really pathetic

zubeyr:
add to that that the Koran is God 'unaltered word and the Bible in its current version is corrupted

Can u show me the uncorrupted version of the bible? and is the gospel of john that u allege contains the name of mohammad not part of the corrupted version?

zubeyr:
toba how can you educate me about Jesus or anything ? you don't even know who 's Jesus was ?  how can  you can educate me when you are the ignorance by excellence  the Jesus I know was a God's Prophet a Messenger and a perfect human being do you want me to believe in that shady trinity ?

This just shows how lowly informed u are and someone offered to educate u yet u are refusing to accept. Ignorance of the highest other. Hes a perfect human being? why was he not conceived through s.e.e.x like ever`other human being? why was he refereed to a a messiah and why were we told hes coming back again?

zubeyr:
do you want me to believe in blasphemy ?

well muslims believes in trash and lies. If u do same i wouldn't be surprised mr man

zubeyr:
[/quote][quote author=zubeyr link=topic=523328.msg6916995#msg6916995 date=1286767169]do you want me to associate someone with Almighty God ?

U are free to do whatever u like

zubeyr:
do you want me believe in the divinity of Christ ?

If u like do, if u don't like, don't do so . His divinity remains firm and sure with or without ur belief.

zubeyr:
do you want me to believe in all that crap ? do you want me ,  ? sir I am sorry you will be disappointed

I cant be disappointed cos u folks believe in trash about mohammad already

zubeyr:
The Bible says he was a man John 8 :40 who is lying you or your Bible ?

U are the pathetic liar here same goes with other muslims that believe in trash like ur self. This is ignorance and lack of proper understand of English on ur part

John 8:40
'As it is, you are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things.'

'But as it is, you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth, which I heard from God; this Abraham did not do.'

How does this relate to mohammad? Jesus was the one speaking here about himself speaking the truth and what abraham didnt do. So whats this with mohammad? smh. U pple should really examine ur selves mentally first.

zubeyr:
toba you still incapable to understand the obvious ! can you understand the Prophet universal Message ? can you understand he was sent to the Afghans ?  if not how come  they are 100 % Muslims can you understand he was sent to Nigerians ?if not how come  roughly 75 Million of them are Muslims ? can you understand he was sent to the Chineses ? Russians? Turkishs  ? Bosnians ? Persians ? Asians ? Indians ? if you claim he was sent only to the Arabs how come the Arabs represents a tiny minority of Muslims ? roughly 10 % are the Senegaleses Gambians Malians Guineans  Arabs ?

I fully understand toba's view. u are the one wallowing in Ignorance. Its simple. Muslims and Christians. Ur book tels us many things about jesus and how great he is and to be referenced. the bible tells us nothing about mohammad. Muslims and christians in the present world believe and must believe in Christ. Yet the christians aren't told same about mohammad no? who is more acceptable to the two faiths as part of the present day mankind?

zubeyr:
sir the sad part  that Christianity in our continent is a legacy of Colonial powers they didn't only stole your oil or gold or enslave you but they did set you on your way to hell they corrupt your soul and spirit and make you believe in this shady trinity and irrational dogma

U pple believe in trash. Whats the empirical evidence that our oil was stolen? U must prove this otherwise u would be making a frivolous allegation

zubeyr:
toba thanks to some  west African Muslims  leaders who their stedfastness  and resilience to face this evangelisation  was a great example I would like to mention Sheikh Ibrahima Niass , Ousmane dan fodio, Elhaji Omar Tall, Sheikh Ahmedou Bamba , Mansa Musa , Sundiata Keita

Were they violent in the face off or not?

zubeyr:
toba Prophet Mohamed was a warner a Messenger a Prophet are those attributes exclusives ? can someone be a Yoruba Muslim from the south west ? are they exclusives ? did you know the Koran was revealed in 23 years period ? did you know that every revelation comes to settle an issue in different context ? I bet you don't know ! how come you can know? when your name is toba

This is just senseless and very common with ignorant muslims like ur self. Pls explain how the name affects whats being said?

zubeyr:
you are disconnected disorganised and incoherent I wish  I could have debated someone with ideas and intelligence not someone with  ignorance and   intolerance

OmG with the garbages u posted above u still said these? too bad. Ur post filled with lies shows u lacked ideas and intelligence

zubeyr:
toba you are not achieving any gain from insulting the Prophet and spreading lies by doing so you will only radicalize your fellow Nigerian Muslims

Once again i say it boldly that mr mo deserves to be insulted. Another terrorism intent word with bolded. U know muslims are radicals. Just becos a man is being insulted u guys can go on rampage and kill pple? no wonder Nigeria in 2002 lost the rights to host the miss world beauty pageant cos a Thisday news paper report said' this ladis are beautify if prophet mohammad were to be alive he would have taken one of them as a wife'. The next was for the so called radicals to start trouble and the competition was moved to England. This shows the level of tolerance in Islam the 'religion of pieces piece'

zubeyr:
Maybe you might  have the blessing of your team lead and moderator j cross maybe it is time for Jarus and Mukina from the Muslim section to learn from her play book how come you can be Moderator when you are bias and intolerant ? who knows ?

I registered as a member of NL this year 2010. I can say that the muslims are most intolerant on NL and even in Nigeria

zubeyr:
toba   you  can  call all Muslims terrorists and stereotype them because few of them are  ? so since you have boko haram  in the North and Mend in the south   can we call all Nigerians terrorists include yourself ? can we call all Nigerians 419 crook and  scamers because few of them are ?
toba your logic can't hold water you still amaze me same old  same old Mademoiselle toba

This comparison of yours makes no sense and speaks volume about how illogical u could be. all through thi post u ve attacked toba yet u still claim hes intolerant.

What makes the mend pple agitated? or why are they argitated? What of Boko Haram? no to western Education. yet they use gsm and bombs made through the help of western education. are they fighting for the same thing? I dont know what to say about ur logic here. The shows u lack the ideas u claim someone else lack no?

vedaxcool:
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Re: Seyibrown And Nopuqeater Try To Explain!
« #32 on: October 09, 2010, 08:26 PM »

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i do not agree with most of your NL posts, but on this post of yours to the mumu called vedaxcool, i agree with u 100%

Can two fools rightly guide each other? Toba your case is one of terminal cancer where you are sure you have reached the end but have not seen the end,we know people like you are Intellectually pre-matured and hence do not know the difference from your left and your right instead you prefer dancing with the the Mad men to show you are sane? what a pity, as often you walk on your head rather than leg, Christian usually display this form of decadence when it come to Islam that is they support the atheist and anti-religious Alethia once claimed that the pagans of Mecca were on the right path, persons in other to get what they want but guess what
You only succed in showing your Pathetic nature " Faith by despiration", You can support an athiest asking the same foolish questions over and over again and add the Pagans of Mecca to fufill all righteusness. That is just you, the man that feeds his faith with despiration.

[b]Mudley(Dirtley) yopu who believe all the users on NL are Men this is what peole like Toba pray for you all the [/b]time:toba
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« #79 on: August 10, 2010, 10:37 PM »

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^^thats y Nigeria may never move forward.Nigerians are worse.Imagine its the islamic nuissance that look for trouble&yet cry foul. The xtians receives bashing from all sides(atheist,muslims,pagan deists etc) yet they live with it, unlike the muslims
ajoguegbe opened a thread on mohammad.firstly mukina2 moved it to islamic section&subsequently the thread was locked. This pathetic islamic pigs didnt see anything wrong with that.Here they are having free time to incite&look for trouble. May thunder strike them down.

vedaxcool:
Whether it was in no way directed at me but your post was a challenge to the sane and thinking as this was your post:

smh. what then is the difference between you and a rabid schizophrenic?

on the real tho, it's all just psychological phenomena, like unconscious wishful thinking. i.e. do you really think that God is telling terrorists(who are extremely religious!) to kill people because they are unbelievers?

[b]Unlike toba who believes that any attack on Islam and Muslims brings Joy to the Lord, I took it upon myself to reply this silly questions you ask to someone thaqt has not showed this tendencies(killing), as wouild you see someone wearing clothes and ask him if he was unclothed? no that would be a silly questions from all induication, and these are usually the silly question you are in the habbit of asking, remeber Niezche had a mental problem how would you feel if you were often ask whether you are sane in any way since your gfodfather niezche was mad. Definately that is the level of quamire you find yourself in, the only sensible? question you can ask at any Juncture is did God send those that kill in his naME, IF THAT IS THE REASON THAT YOU ARE AN ATHEIST pity people like you who like to show how daqft they are in Public, If Muslims and Christians have often reply that God does not command mischief yet you at every juncture would ask the seemless question, then you might be considered a RETARD in all respect as what are u deaf, is it so hard to ubderstand simple english. And as for growing up without my dad, No I did grow every day knowing the presence of my father and enjoying parental love something your godfather niex=z\che found repulsive which probably explain why he went mad, as for homo?? whatever it is you atheist that bask in the glory of such foolery as a deafeat to God's Laws and again such statement shows why you lack morals in all respect and should be pitied for being a waste of biological resources, as [/b]

I thought this should have been deleted. This chaps response herein are absurd and shouldn't remain here at all. Pls review the response from medley and that of vedaxcool and see which is the worst

^^^ beautiful thats why we have u guys. well done

alaper:
I suspect this poster must have inhaled some smoke from some burning bush!!!

I'm really marvelled with your suspicion. For one to express his/her opinion by rejoicing and thanking a deity perceived to have being responsible for a thing without insulting or hurting others means same person must have inhaled smoke? This is just too lame. The way atheists reason at times are uncalled for

^^^Smh

Davidylan. Any how any how. God has a role to play in this rescue. Atleast the source of inspiration.

daylae:
Even an athiest will throw away his believe when he finds himself in such precarious situation as the miners.

As one of the rescued miners said,"sometimes it takes one major event in one's life to change you into a new man." maybe he used to be one of those.

a slogan is from hopelessness to hopefulness

When the people concerned referenced God. What else can the mockers say?

Jesoul please your attention is urgently required on the thread 'seyi and nopuqeater try to explain' to help restore sanity asap. I know mudley always look for trouble, but not this time. Vedaxcool has gone nut. Carefully read his response. I dont think i have every read any of such insult since i became a member of Niraland this year. U need to delete his post. Its too offensive God bless.

All glory honour adoration must be to God almighty creator of heaven and earth as well as all that are therein. The rescue is the lords doing which is marvelous in our sight. All the people that aren't satisfied that this rescue was attributed to God should go hang Hm/hr self.
Thk u to the thread author. God will specially bless u with all your desires

One of the local media said the lady that hugged him was his sister and not the wife or gf

Lol Ivy. Im catching fun watching it live on Aljazeera. A chap is playing guitar at the rescue site

Dude. Did u read the title? Its says miracle. Samson and Delilah is not a miracle but a sweet sour love tale

vescucci:
Bleh. The NT is pretty boring compared with the OT. I used to read this JW book: My Book of Bible Stories. I dunno who illustrates their publications but damn! I loved Samson and Delilah most

This is hilarious chilean presido spoke with PM Cameron thanking him for his support. He said [b]thank u very much David. Next Monday we shall be in Downing street number 10. We shall drink tea together.[/b]lol

@moderator well done. for restoring sanity

Goosh. U beat me to it. The 21st miner yonni barrios is being a rescued right about now. Watching on Aljazeera. A chilean just said its a miracle from God

more pics

I got a mail early this morning and feel like sharing the news on Nairaland to ask questions from our brethren muslims.
Please moderator let this be as there's no pun intended against anyone nor any rule(s) broken. Just to ask questions with the hope of getting an answer

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              No religion  can ever justify such hideous crimes,  What sort of a civilization is this?

Pass it on , let the world know what's happening in the name of  Islam, 

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