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[quote author=Tudór link=topic=443585.msg6172576#msg6172576 date=1275981074]I'm still waiting for jesoul to come explain WHY my pic was removed. And what rules i went against

Funny how she'll speedily come delete posts like a schitzo but when asked to explain why all of a sudden na ghost whisperer.

Was my picture lewd? Suggestive? Insulting?

Look, if i dont understand why i'm being harassed i'm going to repost my pic. Afterall there's freedom of speech and right to expression.[/quote]Mr tudor, u and jesoul at it again. Who go settle una?

Ogaga4Luv:
[size=13pt]^{my friend. . . you arge too much these days, i wonder what you're up to. can't you agree that Jesus have encourage only bad things before he was finally killed by my fellow brothers. . . . i have know , Jesus isn't that innocent.}[/size]

What nonsense are u talking about. Kindly show me the evil that jesus did?

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Jenwitemi:
Yes.

Any idea of who such a being is?

Jenwitemi:
Creator? Yes. I don't know what you mean by, "other than man", though. Mind expanding?

i.e created by a being greater than man? Do u believe such?

Dayo&others, edoyad has STDs he started a thread in the romance section. Go search

Wheres dayo,heoneric,mukina2 chi? They must here this

Contact the state pro or dial 767

Ogaga4Luv:
[size=13pt]^{Been a gay is not a sin and can never be a sin . . . . . afterall , everybody knows that Jesus was a gay who chose 12 special guys on the important assignment .} [/size]

Nonsense,blasphemy, error of the tongue. U sentenced to hell fire

Jenwitemi:
I don't have beliefs. I don't need beliefs. I take each theme one at a time on it's own merit. I don't need to know your belief before i discuss anything with you, so why should you want to know mine? You are free to counter any of my post based on it's content. You don't need to put me in a category before you do that.

ok. Do u believe that the universe we find our selves now have a creator other than man?

Emeka ike winner on Ait now

Jenwitemi:
Why do you want to know that, and why does that matter?

cos i would like to debate with u on ur belief

Deep Sight:
Brilliant - but your succeeding post is appalling. . . .

Good bless u DS. i didnt notice jenwitemi had a nice post,better than the appalling ones. But i really like to know if jenwitemi is a theist or an atheist

Dnt mind 12Yr old

nuclearboy:
how's my son-in-law doing?

enigmalet i guess

Kay 17:
Why would God need to be a scientist? what effort or labour is he expending? he is suppose to be omnipotent.

I think jenwitemi should tell us why he feels 'god' is a scientist.Im simply playing along with him/her

Kay 17:
With reference from my OP, i obviously meant "recreation", should have known better. nevertheless, it is criminal to downplay the importance and potential to our survival. Its a great breakthrough to man. Aso man has created in essence life. The actual beings would come later., the preserve of God to create life has being lost. and he himself is close to extinction.

Just listen to ur self. U are one of those that believes in the non existence of God. how then can u compare man with something thats non existent? Also venter didnt create life from the scratch,but manipulated existing nature forms to bring out a new thing.

Jenwitemi:
While the biblical god may have belonged to a race with vastly more advanced science and technological knowledge, that does not mean that we do not have that same creative capability to create universes, because we do, we are just a late starter. It is just a matter of time before we do create universees that people can go into and that will seem real to them. The indications of this capabilities are all around you.

Lets wait till u do 'since the indications are all around' but before then 'god' is still the best scientist

Jenwitemi:
This is really not about comparisons, about who is greater than whom. That is totally irrelevant to this topic. The main thing is that we can create from nothing too.

Wake up now, u started the comparison by saying 'god' is a scientist like other scientist

Jenwitemi:
The message here is that the scientists can do what the bible god did and can do, because it is all in the mind. This makes the scientists as great as the bible god. Minds create universes and whatever is it that are in them. The bible god "himself" was a scientist just like any other.

WTH are u saying? didnt u start the comparison? What i did was to tell u that one scientist is greater than other scientists

Jenwitemi:
The message here is that the scientists can do what the bible god did and can do, because it is all in the mind. This makes the scientists as great as the bible god. Minds create universes and whatever is it that are in them. The bible god "himself" was a scientist just like any other.

i have no issue with 'god' being a scientist. The physical universe and man are yet to be created by scientists either in mind/reality. Yet the 'god' of the bible as a scientist created real things. So god is greater than scientist in that regard

Jenwitemi:
The scientists then said, "okay, we will do it like you did it and create out own universes in our minds so that we can have all the dusts we need. How about that?"
The bible god answered, "ye are indeed too clever for me. I need to create dumber humans."

according to u above the bible 'god' did create a physical universe,but the scientist never did rather in their heart not so? Who is greater?

Horus:
Religion is the banana skin and spirituality is the banana. The misery in the world is because religious people throw away the banana and are holding on to the skin.

Its not applicable to every pple. One thing is that orientation matters. What pple are being taught in gathering is important as well.

This one hard but nowadays we should blame ourselves

Viaro science vs biblical account, are they from same orientation? If they are not give in ur opinion what the bible teaches&what science does on the other hand. Ur detailed explanation will lead me to my next question.

Well done grace

my God whats happening here?

Jenwitemi:
So, why did he not speak Adam and Eve into existence also? Why did he not create them both "exnihilo" as he did the entire universe? If he could create something as huge as the universe out of nothing, what stopped him from creating the tiny and insignificant "first couple" the same way? Why did he need dusts of the earth and a rib bone?

Man can talk God can talk. Man can reason God can reason. Thats the true meaning of man in Gods image. The uniqueness is the difference. The universe doesn't have the characteristics of man. Man is unique because he wasn't spoken like the universe

mazaje:
Here you are asking me for evidence when you are yet to provide a SINGLE evidence for your own assertions. Again your evidence to show that the universe did not create it self is WHAT?. . . My position with regards to the origin of the universe as always been that nobody truly KNOWS, how the universe came about. I fact we do not fully know what the universe is talk more of fully knowing about its origins. It was not until about 10 years ago that we just discovered that some of the starts out there are solar systems just like our ours. . .We are yet to fully discover what the universe is. . .My sincere position is I don't know and am very ok with it.  

You are making two conflicting statements @ the bolded.

Ur sincere u dont know but unsincere opinion nobody knows ?

That u dont know is not a crime making a generalized statement is wrong that nobody knows because you mazaje doesnt know the source of the universe. U re just being ridiculous and insincere about ur view on the universe. U dont know u then want to drag 'all' into ur lack of knowledge on same.

Science proved the genesis account wrong why cant science then tell us the source of universe till date? Science and mazaje doesnt know meaning others cant know as well? Dont forget that science have failed to provide answers to many things. Let me also conclude like u did  that u and science does not know that God created the universe

mazaje:
Which of the Gods created the universe?  I am not really interested in any vague or wild claim of God created the universe. I am interested in specific claims. All the Gods that we constantly talk about on this forum(Allah and Yahweh) have talked about how they created the world in details. . . .Scientific and observable observations say those accounts are false. . . .Just like other christian cosmologist, you on one hand discard the supposed words of your God on how he SAID he created the universe because the account is ridiculous and has NO evidence to support it, but still claim that your God still created the universe. How so. . . .The genesis creation account is FLAT OUT WRONG when compared to the observable and scientific evidence. . . .

Its GOD the intelligent designer that created man, that created the universe and not Gods. Its some how when u people keep talking about science. Has science been able to tell that the universe was not created?  has science been able to identify God after so so many years of search. The same universe u are talking about science cant create it neither can science create from basis man that dwells therein. I dont think ur science will ever be able to find the God that created the universe

mrmayor:
How and where did Yahweh, Allah etc come from; did he/they just appear out of nothing in space and without cause? Please reduce the latin.

Are u a genuine seeker or just pretending? ur response will tell me how best to answer ur question, which is like asking 'to whom is a bachelor married'

mazaje:
So far NOTHING has been shown to have created the universe. . . .NOTHING. . . .If you have any evidence to show that anything created the universe just point to that thing and show how or when it was creating or when it created the universe. . . .Your evidence to show that the universe did not create it self is WHAT?. . . .

In law theres what is called the law of logic i.e what issues become so complex and stubborn beyong logical conclussion then probability comes in the settle the matter. This i have been a party to at the several Nigerian courts mostly in Lagos.

The formation of man is very complex likewise the universe. Man and the universe have been intelligently designed thats why its been difficult for man to create a new man from the scratch not even Craig venter can boast to have done same. If such matters is beyond the powers of man and science one may probably link it to a mysterious Being who cant be seen or easily understood due to his more complex nature than man and the universe.

OMG. Is anyone watching CNN presently as at the last 15mins? Woo this is lovely. Becky anderson is granting a live interview with craig venter and another Oxford prof,who flawed craig completely.He described craig as a crafty business man in his presence,claiming the potential risk of what he did could wipe out more life than hes trying to create. Obama gave an order for investigation into what craig has done. Lets watch as things unfold. What craig did is a manipulation of an existing DNA. Hes yet to create human life from the scratch. Toba i also need anwsers to your question.