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PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 4:10pm On Apr 26, 2013
spyder880: It is called "partition" not dimension. A partition is usually 12ft of wall space. I pay N1500 per partition and pay N2000 for each partition if he will pay his server after the day. I have a plastering budget of N450,000 for this duplex on this thread, (all materials and labour, up and down plus pararet plastering.)I am still asking my Oga to upgrade the amount for us.any pictures for us? cheesy
@ Oga Spyder thanks a lot, atleast,today i have learnt that its called partition not dimension; not bad for someone who knew absolutely NOTHING about building before i met Oga spyder, so once again thanks. I think i have to try and bargain the price of per partition with him to see if he can bring it down a little bit because if Spyder is paying 1500, the 2000 i am being quoted is a bit on the high side, i will definately try and bring it down a little bit. As for the server which is 2000 daily its kind of ok if he actually completes 7 partition per day which means the server effectively gets 2000/7 = 285.71 per partition... seems okay to me.
I am a bit busy this weekend but i will try and upload some pictures next week. Have a gra8 weekend everyone!
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 12:09pm On Apr 26, 2013
mufutau55: Forgot to tell you that the "Carpenter's Labor Pay of 90,000 Naira" is for both Wood (Nogging) and the Aluminum work.
The guy did both because he is very knowledgeable on all roofings and all carpentry works.

Hajji Mufutau
@ Mufutau55, just concluding the roofing of my MQ, hopefully today latest early next week, a little rain delayed us but need to cover the wood ASAP to avoid rain damaging the wood.
I needed to ask you a question regarding plastering as thats my next stage, i know there are different ways of costing it and i think spyder outlined something about this on some thread. i wanted to know how you costed yours and what the cost was of plastering both inside and outside.
i have been given the following quote and i need the house to advice accordingly if its relatively okay.
We are going with costing by dimension so they guy counted and said the MQ has 33 dimension both inside and outside and cost per dimension is 2,000

33 dimension- 2000x 33 =66,000
helper 2,000 daily X 5 days= 10,000-
the workman estimate that he can do 7 dimensions per day so finishing the entire work in 4.71 days so approximately 5 days really- bringing the helper cost to 2,000 x 5 days = 10,000
20 bags of cements at 1750 each = 35000
1 mud sand at 13000
sharp sand dont know the cost well my credit finished as i was talking to my manager lol but these are the main cost roughly.
So what do you think, Spyder also cast your sharp eye on these estimate too please. Thanks
PropertiesRe: First Nairaland Property Investment Partnership by jites(m): 12:11am On Apr 21, 2013
[quote author=prince_onx]How's going chief Spyder and the entire NL folks especially those inventing and sharing great ideas to move like minds forward.
The above quote was kind of your exact word when we spoke two days ago. Sorry I called almost at the end of my visit! Was in naija for 5 whole weeks but didn't even accomplish half of what I planned to take care of. All the same, God is good and glad to be back. I will touch base with you sometime next week when am fully situated.
Oga femmmmmy, I saw a mail or iv to some site or so from you but was unable to open it in naija and I have no idea what happen to the mail cux I don't recall deleting it! Any way, am at your service if need be! Hope the family are doing good?
@jites and co, hope your projects are coming up good![/quote]@ Prince_onx, its nice to have you back, how was naija na? hope things are looking up. By the grace of GOD sha. My project is comming along fine, thanks. slowly but surely. we hope to roof it this week by the grace of God. Once again welcome back x
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 10:53pm On Apr 16, 2013
mufutau55: Yeah! I like the term Spyder880 used for the Quarters (MENS QUARTER). My MQ may be bigger than yours, not sure.
I sent you an email thru nairaland.. if you send me your actual email we can compare the floorplan.

Below are the cost brokendown into pices (Woods, Aluminum and Labor):
BQ Roofing Expenses - Materials and Labor

150 pcs of 2x4x12 = 73,500
100 pcs of 2x3x12 = 39,000
16 pcs of Facing Board = 25,600
40 pcs of 2x2x12 = 15,000
Planning and Cutting = 2,400
Nails for Wood = 6,200
Oja Agba = 3,600 =========>>> Blades for tying wood down to the building lintel
2 Gallons of Solignum = 8,000
25 Litres of Kerosine = 3,000
Transport for Wood = 7,000
Omo Onile = 50,000 ===============>>> This may not concern you there.(Ogun/Lagos is problematic with this)
Omo Onile Drinks = 3,500 ===============>>> This may not concern you there.(Ogun/Lagos is problematic with this)
Carpenter's Labor Pay = 90,000
316m of .55mm Aluminum = 363,500
Aluminum Nail = 12,000
Transport for Aluminum = 10,000

TOTAL = 712,300.00

Hope the above breakdown helps.

Hajji Mufutau
@ Hajji, Yeah it helped and yes i think your MQ is way bigger than mine. Thanks for sharing it will serve as a guide line.
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 8:39am On Apr 16, 2013
Hi Hajji,
Wow, i am very impressed with your MQ, the roof is very beautiful and well done. What was the cost of the alluminim and workmanship? i am being quoted between 230k -260k including workmanship. the MQ contain
Living room,
bedroom
seperate room/storeroom
varander,
kitchen
seperate toilet
seperate bathroom.

Yes those are slab for the sockaway and the consultant advised that we raised the sockaway a little bit. The sockaway will be just for the MQ- Spyder you have to patent this "MQ" TERM O cos na you be the first to use it.
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 11:08pm On Apr 15, 2013
Finally, wood work completed and bythe grace of God we should complete the roofing next week with 0.45 long span aluminium.

PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 11:06pm On Apr 15, 2013
moreeee

PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 11:05pm On Apr 15, 2013
mufutau55: @Spyder880 and Jites
Where are the pictures of completed and roofed Boys and Mens Quarters?
I am patiently waiting for this pictures and updates.. Thanks guys.

Hajji Mufutau
Hi Hajji

A little pictorial update of my "Mens Quarter" the builders had some cement and gravel left over so they decided to add some little piller design at the entrance.. Mens quarter for you lol.

Jobs/VacanciesRe: Why Are There No Job Agencies In Nigeria??? by jites(m): 7:17am On Apr 12, 2013
Some job agencies only cater for blue collar jobs, which is fair enough if thats their niche but i do think we need something like a JOB CENTRE. i dont know what its called in other developed country but in the UK its called JOB CENTRE, you go there ( its in every borough in the country) so there is no stuff like there is one in ikeja or one in lagos kind of talk.
You walk in there are PODs like mini touch screen where you are able to see all the vacancies in the country from accountancy to window cleaners, all these organisation upload their vacancies there on a daily basis. But mind you we still have unemployment in the UK but if you know anything about economics you would know that no countrycan can full employment but lets not go there yet.
But yes i think it will be a great idea in Nigeria, we have the money to do it, and as for who you know syndrome lets not kid ourselves it does exit but that does not mean you dont get jobs by merit also. I come from Delta state, and when these oil company come to our land to explore for oil and set up the vacancies, some of them are allocated to Chiefs, ovie and elders ie if you are a Chief you are allocated 10 spaces, the ovie perhaps 50 spaces and they give these spaces to friends and families, Now i know this cos my granpa is a chief but saying this these spaces are usually for menial jobs cos you can not employ say a petrol chemical engineer with this sort of allocation of spaces. Anyway i have written too much i dont like reading lenghty post my self. GOD BLESS NIGERIA
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 2:26pm On Apr 04, 2013
spyder880: Let me not talk too much about the quantities as I did not measure this house to see what the quantities should be like, but the unit prices seems high to me, especially in Delta state where we have more wood than Enugu.
Another thing is the 'tie rods', there is no type of tie rods you can use in a BQ or even bungalow that will cost more than N10k. Welldone, expecting to see pictures of work progress soon.
Oga Spyder, thanks for your quick response, i have relooked at the figure and the N40,000 for the tie rod was a typo on my part the actual cost is N4,000
I have registered my disapproval about the quantity and the unit price, but my man will go to the saw mill himself and see for himself how much these wood cost from various sawmill so he can compare the prices. The carpenter who measured the building is the one who quoted the quatity but we will monitor it closely because i dont want to over buy.
Thanks again Oga spyder, you promised to help me while i am embarking on this project and so far you have kept to your word. May God continue to bless you and you family IJN
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 10:48am On Apr 04, 2013
Hi Oga Spyder, hows is the family and business hope all is well. Happy Easter to you. Was womdering if the BQ is roofed yet so i can compare prices. i received this quote for the wood work.. what do you think is it reasonable

wall plate 4x5 - 8pcs x N1500 = N12,000
2X4 - 65pcs x N800 = N52000
2x3 - 55pcs x N650 = N35,750
2x2- 85pcs x N300 = N25,500

half bag of 3 inches nails = N2,750
half bag of 4 inches nails = N2,750
20 tigh rod N200 x 20 = N40,000

carpenter workmanship = N50,000 on his own N30,000 but with helpers N50,000

Total cost N184,750

Wood to be used is DANTA
Technology MarketRe: **Nnam.Okenna** Your Patience Is Next To None - * 16GB BB Playbook - DELIVERED * by jites(m): 2:19pm On Mar 18, 2013
Fhemmmy: The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up.
Bros Fhemmmy, i am liking all this your quotes oh, hope you dont mind if i repost them on my FB page with a little bit of twiking,cos i think you can put an end to a nightmare by just waking up but it takes more than waking up to make your dreams come true.- You need to work at it, put plans to action like great nairalanders are doing people like Baba Fhemmmy, Prof Spyder, Brabus, Prince_onx etc
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 2:06pm On Mar 14, 2013
spyder880: Solignum sells for N2500 per tin and 2 tins will be enough to treat the wood for the size of your BQ.
@ Spyder Thanks a lot, very helpful as always.
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 11:36pm On Mar 13, 2013
@ Spyder and others. What is the cost of soligum presently and how many would be needed to treat a 2 bedroom BQ roofing wood. thanks
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 11:34pm On Mar 02, 2013
mufutau55: Yes. I was refering to the BQ. Do you have the finished photo of this BQ when it was completed and roofed with the poultry?
Can you please post the photo. I will surely appreciate it. Also one of the BQ is posted below.

I also saw a floor plan of a 4-Bedroom Bungalow you posted in a thread, the plan you made a joke that you can also draw.
Have you built the said 4-Bedroom Bungalow.. if so, can you link me to the same thread/project where you posted your usual
photos while completing it. I reposted the plan below. Thank you.

Mufutau
I think you are refering to Spyder's BQ, its not the BQ with a poultry and a bungalow. which is the one posted above up to lintel level
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 4:02pm On Feb 28, 2013
mufutau55: Yes. The one being discussed above in this thread, that has some empty space on the side..
I will also send you some email, I am looking for some floor plan for a bungalow.
Thank you.
Hi, if its the BQ or MQ above you are refering to, then the empty space is reserved for building a bungalow and a poultry.
AgricultureRe: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by jites(m): 1:05am On Feb 23, 2013
moreeeeee pictures from Ussyman, Thanks Ussyman for sharing these lovely pictures with us.

AgricultureRe: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by jites(m): 1:04am On Feb 23, 2013
ussyman: @Jides, and Makinde3, see the pictures

@Steel5800, my email is nabaruma@yahoo.com and I would be happy if we can share our experiences. Our farm is around Darmanawa area close to Hassan Gwarzo Sec School. You are always welcom.

@Marco-P: our farm size is 1200sq feets; We had 2 course of block work and the placed the net on top as u can see (around 220 blocks)

Always multiply the value of 1,060 (and might reach 1,200 because it depends on so many factors) by the number of your birds. That should be the cost to raise a single bird to the point-of-lay. You can also use the 7.2KG (up to 20th week)to calculate just the feed to the point of lay per each bird. But notes that these values may varies depending on the so many factors.
See my reply above for the cost to raise them up to 6 weeks.

For 514 birds we bought a total of 20 bags of feeds to 6th weeks. For the first 6th weeks each bird would consume 1.314KG (max) of feeds. Use that to calculate for 210.

We are running a Depp Litter system for now just for the sake of experience. You would get to see the store when I upload the pic. The cost was around 40K-50K (Inclusive of attendent room).

This is how we arried at N1,060 per bird: feeds + medication + labour + transport (operational costs)+ 10% fixed cost. The fixed is the cost of building and materials needed by the birds.

Lets try to communicate via the forum instead of email so as to keep the information for others.

I tried to upload the pictures but had some challenges (timed out error). Can some1 help please?

THANKS

@ Ussyman, as promise these are your pictures you sent me, they were too large so had to resize them. So everyone enjoyn the pictures Ussyman has kindly agreed to share with us all.

AgricultureRe: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by jites(m): 2:37pm On Feb 22, 2013
@ ussyman you can send the pictures to jites_uk@yahoo.co.uk and i can help upload it. regards
AgricultureRe: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by jites(m): 2:36pm On Feb 22, 2013
ussyman: @Jides, and Makinde3, see the pictures

@Steel5800, my email is nabaruma@yahoo.com and I would be happy if we can share our experiences. Our farm is around Darmanawa area close to Hassan Gwarzo Sec School. You are always welcom.

@Marco-P: our farm size is 1200sq feets; We had 2 course of block work and the placed the net on top as u can see (around 220 blocks)

Always multiply the value of 1,060 (and might reach 1,200 because it depends on so many factors) by the number of your birds. That should be the cost to raise a single bird to the point-of-lay. You can also use the 7.2KG (up to 20th week)to calculate just the feed to the point of lay per each bird. But notes that these values may varies depending on the so many factors.
See my reply above for the cost to raise them up to 6 weeks.

For 514 birds we bought a total of 20 bags of feeds to 6th weeks. For the first 6th weeks each bird would consume 1.314KG (max) of feeds. Use that to calculate for 210.

We are running a Depp Litter system for now just for the sake of experience. You would get to see the store when I upload the pic. The cost was around 40K-50K (Inclusive of attendent room).

This is how we arried at N1,060 per bird: feeds + medication + labour + transport (operational costs)+ 10% fixed cost. The fixed is the cost of building and materials needed by the birds.

Lets try to communicate via the forum instead of email so as to keep the information for others.

I tried to upload the pictures but had some challenges (timed out error). Can some1 help please?

@ussyman, youcan send the pictures to my email at jites_uk@yahoo.co.uk and i would help upload it. regards

THANKS

PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 1:58pm On Feb 19, 2013
Niiade: lovely work sir, what is the cost implication on the building as it stand now. well done
I will post the itemise cost when we finish with the lintel phase.
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 11:57pm On Feb 18, 2013
we hope to start the lintel work this week

PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 11:54pm On Feb 18, 2013
a little pictorial progress report on my men's quarter

AgricultureRe: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by jites(m): 11:51pm On Feb 18, 2013
ussyman: I have followed dis thread with keen interest and I must say I hv gained alot so far! However, i would like to contribute my little experience, which I know might go a long way.

Our farm is situated in Kano and on 16 Nov 2012 we stucked 514 day-old layers (Zartech brand)and presently at their 14th week dis week. Fortunately for us the mortality rate has been and is still at 1.3% which I believe is excellent for starters like us. We however had to put alot of effort to source for every available info to help us have a good production. We have religiously follow the vacine/medication schedule given to us by the hatchery and that I believe has contributed alot this success so far. We have had outbreak of two disaeses (CRD,& Concidasis)which were promplty dealed with because we were abled to noticed them early.

Apart from an experience Vet Doctor we also have consultants some of them online while few of them are farm owners themselve assisting us with relevant info and advice. In this kind of business you need to ride on other ppl experience especially if you are a novice.

Following the thread I observed most ppl have challenges with getting the right statictics that would help them make informed decision before starting their own. Therefore, find below some of the data extracted from the record of our farm of rearing 514 layer birds (we currently have 507 birds at 14th week):

1. We spent approximately 300K-400K for the chicken pen of 800 birds(our present capacity). Remember this is just for the penhouse, no other building cost like pencing.
2. Each adult bird require 2.5 square feet of space
3. 20 bags of feed was used for 1st 6 weeks in the farmhouse.
4. 65 bags used for the 1st 11 weeks
5. Each birds would require 7.2KG of feeds to reach Point-of-Lay (statictics that has so far tally with our records). So you can calculate yours based on your number of birds.
6. Each birds would cost an approximately N1,060 at Point-Of-Lay (this statictics is based on the our viability report target and has so far tally with our record). These include feeding, medication, labour and transport. This I believe may vary base on your location in Nigeria (due to cost of living and cost of labour).

I would be glad to share picture of my farm from inception to date if required.
Weldone and thanks for making this thread come alive again. It will really be nice to have some pictures uploaded if you can as its been a long while since we saw any pictures.
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 10:40pm On Feb 11, 2013
Oga spyder if you remember at the begining i started by moulding blocks enough to take the building to roofing level, so now that the german floor is sorted we would concentrate on setting the blocks now to roof level, they just put small one say 4 layers abi na coaches however term the builders use, you know wetin i mean lol, make i go do some overtime for work and get some more fund in and then they will start more layers, when they reach roof level i will update the house again, then i will rest small wait for some fund by the grace of God and then roof.. by his grace

PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 10:33pm On Feb 11, 2013
starting german floor and also we moulded some block for the sock away so we can lay the sock away block just incase rain falls so the already dug sock away does not cave in.

PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 10:29pm On Feb 11, 2013
Watering of the filling, this was easy for us, no need to buy water as we dug a bore hole from the onset, so just bought a hose pipe and used water from the borehole to water the whole filling.

PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 10:25pm On Feb 11, 2013
Filling with laterite

PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 10:23pm On Feb 11, 2013
Oga Spyder, my little BQ project is comming on fine and i shall post some progress pic soon for my teachers to see and comment, i think i probably should stop calling it BQ now sef, it has 3 rooms, which are a step down sitting room, a bedroom and a storeroom a kitchen, a separate toilet and separate bathroom
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A 6 Bedroom Duplex (reloaded) by jites(m): 12:28am On Feb 10, 2013
Weldone o Oga spyder, small small by small small you don build your own palace o.
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 10:15pm On Feb 05, 2013
[quote author=prince_onx]N35 is a bargain per block! And remember even half blocks are counted as one (N35 too). I was quoted N40 per block for mine but who really has time to count full and half blocks? I ended up negotiating the project stage by stage! You might wanna consider doing that. Cheers![/quote]@ Prince, its reassuring to get some kind of comparism. Yeah i was told half block also count as one even a quarter block. When i calculated how much it will take to get the building to roofing level based on the number of block that will b e needed in total it seems quite cheap to me but that not withstanding ii will see if i can still drive a bargain with the builder. Thanks a lot Prince,
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by jites(m): 7:11pm On Feb 05, 2013
@ spyder888, Oga spyder, i no hear from you with regards to the question i posted above, i know say you head is doing overtime right now with your new idea/ project but no forget us o, i still need your help big time o. I am loyal
good evening

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