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Make una take it easy with this una women and hardwork discussion o, i came to class today for pictures update and na so so women and hardwork i see for blackboard. Shey someone has posted the link for the discussion about women and hardwork so fellow classmates abi na nairaland mates make we go there to thrash the matter out well well. This issue is a subjective issue and like religion everyone has their on views about it. Wait oh wetin they happen so ebi like say mesef don begin talk about the same matter, make i shut up now before i enter this slippery portour portour
Okay to the matter at hand Teacher we need pictural updates please

Fhemmmy: Yes oh

Oga Fhemmmy, the tracking say estimated time of arrival in naija is 8/11/2012, its quicker than expected

spyder880: BQ COSTS SO FAR

30 bags of cement x N1950 = N58,500
30 bags molding x 600. = N18,000
Foundation digging costs N8,000
Blinding cement (6) x N1950 = N11,700
Blinding labour (6) x N500 = N3,000
Block setting & labour N8,500
Filling the found. N 4,000

Total N111,700

@Spyder, Thanks a lot for this cost update, you are a God sent to me as far as i am concern.i am updating my inlaw with all this cost update so that he does get cheated too much lol

spyder880: N1.6m sounds high for a BQ, except there are other conditions we don't know about.

@ Spyder, Oga Spyder i salute o, need some help with clarification, remember i said some architect quoted me 1.6 million for the BQ, when i asked for the BOQ this is what i got. i dont know how a BOQ looks like, i was of the opinion that everything is supposed to be itemised in the BOQ. Can the house please help me IS THIS HOW BOQ IS NORMALLY PRESENTED.

BILL OF QUANTITY
A. Preliminary N25,000.00
B. Substructural works N491, 000.00
C. Superstructural works N240, 200.00
D. Roofing and Ceiling N169, 200.00
E. Doors and Windows N217, 500.00
F. Plumbing works N64, 000.00
G. Electrical connection N50, 000.00
H. Finishings N355, 400.00
Grand total-N1,612,700.00

spyder880: We went with a senior coleague to this site today. We are conducting final checks on this deck and all the works done on it and making final adjustments to make sure nothing prevents us from casting this deck by tomorrow.

Meanwhile the electician has completed his works, also the iron bender, but the carpenter still have some touching to do.

The plumber was also here and fitted his toilet pipes and connections.

Sand supplies completed, gravel completed, the last batch of cement being expected now.

Staircase all done and ready to be cast tomorrow.


We are doing a temporary manual step (wooden type) to be used to climb up with concrete loads and cast this deck. Everything is going according to plans and we still hope to pour the deck by tomorrow morning, barring any last minute surprises.

More pictures later this night.

@ Spyder, you are doing a great job and also inspiring loads of people, may God continue to grant you speed,safety and favour.

spyder880: We have used 30 bags of cement to produce around 1000 pcs of 6" hollow blocks. Cement was got at a total cost of N1,950. Block makers took N600 per bag. Digging the foundation cost about N11,800.
We also used about 8 bags of cement for the blinding/foundation block works of the BQ. Bricklayers and serving mason cost N12k for the foundation works, I expect that 2 trips of sand and another 1 trip of stone will be enough for the German floor/block work/foundation and lintels of this BQ and sand is sold at N15k (x2) while gravel costs N20k. Hope I have not forgotten anything.

What is not clear now is the costs of block laying, serving and lintel costs, rods, wood, carpenter and iron benders, plus lintel casting on the BQ.

@ Spyder Thanks, This is very helpful

Fhemmmy: More pix . . .

shwoo oga Fhemmmy that last picture look like the car almost jam the wall o, abeg tell them to take it easy o lol. i have been tracking the baby and its sailing gradually to Niaja.

correct german machine!!!!

spyder880: On the BQ, we have filled up the foundation with filling sand and are planning to water it down before casting the German floor. I plan to cast the German floor same day as the deck by same group of workers.

Oga Spyder, i am very interested in the german floor costing o, because apart from the roofing i think the german floor is the next expensive aspect of the building. so if you dont mind could you please state the amount and items used for the german floor.

spyder880: We are going to divide the 3rd room to form the toilet/bath. Although the two projects are sharing most of their materials and labour, I will try and pick out the costs for the BQ differently.

@Spyder, that would be great!

prettiest1: This is known as udara.

CHENRY

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spyder880: even the guys on the BQ were busy

@Spyder, good morning, just looking at the initial stage of the BQ foundation, those 4 segment, are they the 2 rooms, bathroom and toilet? and in terms of the costing of the BQ, i take it you would be sharing resources with the main house also, as in say if you bring in a tipper of sand for example, you are likely to use it for both the house and the BQ. Cos i was just thinking if that is the case then it might be a bit tricky trying to estimate the cost of the BQ.

@Prince onx, thanks a lot for taking your time to give me this advice, i am grateful. I will definately go back to the drawing board and make a few changes, i will now definately increase the 2 bedroom bungalow to 3 bedroom, i doubt if an additional bedroom will make much difference in terms of cost. In terms of someone supervising the project the architect who drew the plan said he would also monitor it from time to time but mind you he is the one who did a BOQ for 1.6million naira too. I think what i will do like you suggest my inlaw will be responsible for the finance. In terms of getting another land, uhmm for now i dont think i can afford it, i actually bought this present one for 1.2 million naira and guess what i bought it from my uncle at a cheaper rate, well supposedly and in sapele you have to be careful when buying land because a lot of people sell land that don't belong to them. This land however, was bought by the government from the community and government allocated the plots to various individuals of which my uncle benefited 2 plots from. Sapele is not really my home and i am not looking to build a house for myself in sapele to live one day, i have a land in my home town for that purpose, the land in sapele was bought mainly for business purpose ie the poultry but just to accommodate my inlaw and my sister who will also be running the farm i decided to build a little house on the farm for them to live. But on the whole thanks a lot Prince and God bless you for the advice you have given me.

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With 6" block at N120 (N240,000 for 2000) and cements estimated at N2000 (N150,000 for 75 bags), sand and gravel N300,000 plus labour @ N200,000, N1.6m or a little more should be able to roof a 4 bedrooms bungalow before plumbing and electoral not to talk of BQ. Am not a contractor and with all due respect to Spyder and co! And ofcox I know there are other here and there expenses which was why I said "with a little more above the N1.6m).
First of all @jites: if you land is a swamp in an area suitable for farming or poultry it will cost you way more than those of us building on a flat and dry land. Your BQ for example require 6 coaches while my story building of 4 flats was 4 and 5 in some area. Sapele is not that expensive in terms of buying land so you might want to consider looking for a different plot and just use the present one for your farming. 2. If you are on a tight budget which most of us are then I will advise you to start the building of the main house. Why will you want to build or own two houses that won't/can't contain people? One TWO bedrooms MAIN house and one "ONE bedroom BQ even though you have a family. My cousin is building something similar to what you have on mind but his is a 4 bedrooms total and 2 living rooms. On one side he has 3 bedrooms, living room, toilet/bathroom, and kitchen then across the hall is a one bedroom safe contain but they're all under one roof. He plan to use the 3bdrm side with his family then rent the safe contain at least to have a neighbor in the compound. You can even start the main house (not 2 rooms abeg lol) then finish the two rooms you need for now then the rest later. You need to plan for friends and inlaws in case they visit.
Finally, if I don't know something I seek the knowledge or ideas of those that know not those that don't know like me. Obviously both you and you brother Inlaw knows nothing about building or are both building for the first time why not look for someone that know. Bear in mind that whatever you do somebody must chop your money one way or the other! Can't beat that! So, let you bro-Inlaw handle the finance part as in give them money when needed or buy/pay for material and labour while you find someone that know about building to supervise the project. You should be able to find someone that will charge you cheap or not more than N50k. Am sure folks like Spyder will chip in more ideas! Good luck![/quote]@Prince onx, thanks a lot for taking your time to give me this advice, i am grateful. I will definately go back to the drawing board and make a few changes, i will now definately increase the 2 bedroom bungalow to 3 bedroom, i doubt if an additional bedroom will make much difference in terms of cost. In terms of someone supervising the project the architect who drew the plan said he would also monitor it from time to time but mind you he is the one who did a BOQ for 1.6million naira too. I think what i will do like you suggest my inlaw will be responsible for the finance. In terms of getting another land, uhmm for now i dont think i can afford it, i actually bought this present one for 1.2 million naira and guess what i bought it from my uncle at a cheaper rate, well supposedly and in sapele you have to be careful when buying land because a lot of people sell land that don't belong to them. This land however, was bought by the government from the community and government allocated the plots to various individuals of which my uncle benefited 2 plots from. Sapele is not really my home and i am not looking to build a house for myself in sapele to live one day, i have a land in my home town for that purpose, the land in sapele was bought mainly for business purpose ie the poultry but just to accommodate my inlaw and my sister who will also be running the farm i decided to build a little house on the farm for them to live. But on the whole thanks a lot Prince and God bless you for the advice you have given me.

spyder880: N1.6m sounds high for a BQ, except there are other conditions we don't know about.

@spyder, i dont know of any other conditions, anyway he is not the one who will build it so that is just his estimate perhaps when i actually start i may not spend that much, thats why i intend to follow your every move and cost on this BQ, i know that material cost may also be different depending on where you are at. So Spyder, if you dont mind i will be hoping you would be posting the breakdown cost for the BQ.

@ SPYDER, PRINCE,ETC I asked the architect for a BOQ on the BQ and i just got a quote of 1.6 million. Spyder, prince and all property followers and enthusiast. is this a reasonable quote?

Fhemmmy: Chief, i used never to be patient at all, till i change the name of my wife to patience and i went to www.buymesomepatience.org to get some patience . . . What is good never comes easy

I used to know someone who was not patient at all, always worrying and being anxious. you know what happened to him? he developed high blood pressure, anxiety and he was admitted to the hospital, he became a PATIENT at UBTH- university of benin teaching hospital. The lesson here is if you are not patient you will eventually become a patient at the hospital. good morning all

[quote author=prince_onx]@jites: 6 coaches for a Bungalow sounds too much not to talk of a simple 1 or 2 bedrooms BQ. Where is your land located? You emphasize so much on BQ, do you have plan to build something bigger, the main house later? Or just a BQ away from home? The reason am asking is that you don't want to build where structure as simple as BQ will run you into millions. Just do you homework very well, add and subtract before taking any step. If a BQ on this land require 6 coaches, how many will the main house need? If you don't plan building something big or have a tight budget, you may want to forget the BQ and go for a nice bungalow I stead. Anyway, lets hear from you first![/quote]@Prince, Thanks a lot for your input thats why i love NL getting loads of help. Well the land is in Sapele in Delta state, the land is a bit swampy and the architect said to be on a safe side we need to raise the foundation. its a 2 plot land and it was acquired specifically for me to build a poultry farm, the site will contain THE POULTRY FARM, A 2 BEDROOM BUNGALOW AND A BQ, Presently i dont have the fund to complete everything and i am currently paying an enormous rent where i presently live. So my plan is to complete the BQ first move into the BQ, build the poultry as i need to be close to the farm to monitor it, and eventually build the 2 bedroom bungalow, When the bungalow is complete i would move into it with my family, the BQ will be used for my workers on the farm as an added incentive for them to live rent free, about 2 workers. When the farm is operational the proceed will help in funding the construction of the 2 bedroom Bungalow. But i am not currently at home, i live in the UK but my inlaw will be running things on my behalf- i know a lot of people will raise eyebrow when i say i am not at home and someone else will be running things, the truth is my major problem is even my inlaw dont have a clue how much the BQ will cost he gives me figure and i compare on NL and decide if he goes ahead or not. The block moulder he saw is charging 25 naira per bag, is this reasonable, i have been following spyder,brabus,amlone, and some vito guy something that build a 5bedroom bungalow in benin city for a while and as at last year they paid their moulder approximately 18-20 per bag so relatively i thought it wasnt too bad- your thoughts please.
To avoid any confusion, when I use I in my statement i am actually refering to my inlaw.
A little bit about my inlaw. He graduated the same time as my immediate younger sister from UNN about 5 years ago, they got married and both of them have been looking for jobs to no avail only getting jobs of 20k a month, so i called him and said why work for 20k or when we can both run some business together, he is very hardworking, i open a little poultry of 250 birds as a trial and so far he has managed it very well losing only 5 birds, we are currently selling eggs now to customers and they are even paying in advance, i bought 5 okada for him to manage on hire purchase and he ran it fanstastically well giving account for every penny even when he buys coke to drink due to being in the sun too long, all the bike have all balance and currently my inlaw has now bought 2 taxis supported by me as well, both drivers balancing 2k per day 10k per week. So in terms of the business being in good hand i have no doubt but the help we need now is for the building as we are both novice and dont want to be riped off. So please my good people of NL any help would be greatly appreciated.

spyder880: You are welcome. I have not had too much time to look into your BQ cost breakdown till my client in this duplex project called and told me to start this BQ. The budget is small, only N130k for the foundation, block work till roofing stage, without the roof. I want to see if I can perform this magic

Stay close as we have just dug the foundation and finished blinding the foundation in readiness for block works by tomorrow/next.

Okay Oga spyder, i will be glued to this thread now because this BQ is my personal module. I am seated and ready to take note. My land just got tested and it was found to be a clay and have been told i will need 6 coaches for the foundation because the land is a bit swampy. So my foundation cost might be a little bit higher. But i am most interested in the amount of block from foundation to roofing stage and subsequently the roofing. Oga spyder which magic you want to perform now na, no perform magic wen i no go fit emulate oh because i am going to be mirroring this BQ everything because its the same layout as what i want. So whatever magis you perform you will have to show me the trick too o.
Some architect has estimated about 1200 to 1300 block from foundation to roofing, that does not include the foundation o. Is this reaslistic? na from this your BQ i go know if the guy knows what he is estimating or not.
I salute!!!

spyder880: This BQ will have 2 rooms, a toilet and bathroom with small balcony in front. On the left side of the BQ will be a car shed/park to accommodate one car. The owner wants to use the space to pack materials and a sleeping room for the workers. This could be turned to a security post when the house is completed.

Oga Spyder, good morning, you are now speaking my language now that you are about to build a Boys quarter, if you can recollect i have been asking endlessly for the cost of building a boys quarter but no reliable reply from anyone, i assumed because no one was building one. I think you were the only one who replied me saying i should budget 500k but that it could go up by 50% eith way. I have not started yet and i was so happy when i saw that you are about to start a BQ.
Oga spyder i have been following the duplex just out of interest but now i will follow the BQ and i was wondering if just for my benefit and others if you could itemise the cost of the BQ seperatly for me. ie the cost of digging the foundation, the number of blocks, the number of cement,sand,gravel etc because i will be following your pattern verbertim if you dont mind. Thanks and God bless

femmy2010: You do need a budget of N1.5m to buy the Hiace but I can advice. We buy a RHD one in lagos and have it converted with all cost not exceeding N950k.
It won't be possible to roam the Cotonou auto market taking pics of available buy options that we won't buy cos it might be sold by the time we come back.
We can both head out there to search and pay for the desired buy option.
Thanks .

Hi Femmy,
Thanks, how safe is the converted ones, and can you give me a breakdown of the individual cost as in
Cost of buying a RHD
Cost of converting it from RHD TO LHD

REGARDS

[quote author=nnam.okenna]Don't worry Mr. Pibo, if you have dealt with Mr. Fhemmmy before, you'll know that he'll first send you as many pictures of the car as possible before gradually sampling them here on NL.

As for me the buyer, I have more than a hundred pictures of the car from every possible angle, showing every part of the car (except the underside). I'm sure you'll get to see everything you want to see as time goes on.

Thank you.[/quote]Mr Pibo
Who no go no know, i am also a withness that have bought a car from OGA FHEMMMY, i have got more than 10 different angle of my car in my private email account and to be honest i have seen every part of the car and i am more than happy with with. Give him a try and if you are not amazed by the quality of service i will owe you 10k. it s not my business but i am prepared to put 10k on the line that you would be happy with the pictures he would send you. if you are not happy with the quality of the pictures then hand to heart i will give you 10k just for taking your time to look at the pictures. A gentleman arrangement and honesty is the underlining factor here

PEOPLE NEVER LEARN, I AM FROM OGHARA DELTA STATE AND ONCE WE HAD THIS SITUATION IN JESSE EVEN BETTER BECAUSE THE FUEL WAS FROM A BURST PIPELINE, EVERYONE WENT THERE TO GET THEIR SHARE INCLUDING WOMEN WITH BABIES ON THEIR BACK. SOMEHOW EITHER BY 2 IRON BUCKETS CLASHING OR SOME IDIOT SMOKING THE WHOLE PLACE WAS ENGOLF IN FLAMES THE REST IS HISTORY, EVEN CNN CARRIED THE NEWS. SEEING WOMEN WITH BABIES STILL IN THEIR BACK ROASTED TO DEATH WAS NOT A VERY GOOD SIGHT.
a SCARCITY OF FUEL + POVERTY + IGNORANCE + GREED + CORRUPT OFFICIAL INCLUDING MOPO + OPPORTUNITY LIKE THIS = DISASTER. YOU CAN ADD TO THIS, BUT CAN I BLAME THESE PEOPLE? IF I WERE THERE WOULD I DO DIFFERENTLY? SPYDER WAS ON HIS WAY TO AN APPOINTMENT, HE HAS VARIOUS BUILDING PROJECT TAKING PLACE INCLUDING HIS OWN, WHAT DID HE DO WHEN HE SAW THIS, HE DROVE PAST BECAUSE HE DOES NOT FALL ANYWHERE INTHE EQUATION- HE IS NOT POOR, HE IS NOT UNEMPLOYED, HE IS NOT IGNORANT, HE IS NOT GREEDY ETC IF HE WAS POOR, NOT EATEN FOR 2 DAYS BEEN LOOKING FOR WORK FOR 5 YEARS, HAS A MALNURISH FAMILY WITH 3 OF HIS KIDS SUFFERING FROM KWACHOKO DUE TO DRINKING ONLY GARRI FOR THE LAST 2 WEEKS AND COUPLED WITH THAT IF HE IS FROM DELTA STATE, WHERE WE ARE SUPPOSE TO BE OIL RICH PRESENTED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY LIKE THIS.... I DOUBT IF HE WONT GRAB THE OPPORTUNITY AND CALL IT HIS LUCKY DAY OR GOD's BLESSING. a WORD IS MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR THE WISE, GOD BLESS NIGERIA

Fhemmmy: I have always wanted to do the transportation buz however not being in Nigeria and the dishonesty of most of the drivers there is the biggest turn off for me, cos i like to be able to do to bed at night and sleep well . . . .

Yes o Bros Fhemmmy, you can make good return in transportation business if you have a good and honest driver, whjat beat my imagination is the fact that if a driver drives the bus or car well he can make enough money for himself and for the owner without being dishonest. Presently, i try and recruit drivers from Church, God fearing individual whithout job but with family to cater for- i know someone will say not all church goers are honest, well i mean a born again christian just to make it clearer. I already have a driver from Church waiting to use the VW PASSAT for inter state. Delta-Benin, Benin -Delta -Warri, tidy steady income which i plan to be using to buy cement and mould block by the grace of God to build a boungalow and a boys quarter with. I have a good manager at home who also manages my little poultry farm, he is my inlaw and a graduate that has been looking for a job for ages to no avail. but now by the grace of God he is a manager of a mini transport business and a farm. In terms of having a good sleep, i dont put money where if i lose it i am finish, nah, if i lose anything today God is the reason why i haven't lost everything
I am hoping that by God grace i should be able to add to the cars through the one and only CHIEF FHEMMMY, the Auto Guru. So Bros Fhemmmy be on the look out for me o. Have a happy sunday everyone, remember 7 DAYS WITHOUT PRAYER MAKES ONE WEAK. SHALOM

I currently have a taxi that balances 2k daily and 10k for 5 days, the only issue with your budget is 300k might not be able to get yopu a good reliable taxi car, but if you are able to get one then that a good biz to go into and if you drive it yourself you could make up to 5k daily

Welcome home baby!

Fhemmmy: Nigeria, please welcome this baby home to the city of Lagos . . . .

Welcome home baby!

Hi
Do you have any Toyota Hiace for sale, if yes, could you please furnish me with pictures. I will forward my email address if you have one. Thanks

femmy2010: Good morning sir and thanks for appreciating what we do.Thanks again.
Yes I take time to check well that we are not buying scrap for my clients as client's satisfaction is our target.
Aside the Hiace, a budget of N750k is a fair budget for any of the listed buy option.
I do be glad to help you with the procurement when you are set to buy.
Looking forward to working for you.

Hi Femmy,
Thanks for replying so quickly, I take it 750K wont be sufficient for the Hiace, From your experience what should i budget if i want the Hiace. I take it you visit Cotonou quite frequently, i was wondering if on your next visit you could get me sample photographs of an Hiace, a townace and an Hyundai. i have seen the pictures of the cotonou auto market on your thread and to say its a huge market will be an understatement, so i know there are loads of Hiaces and others there and it will be virtually impossible to have a look at all the hiaces available for sale. What i was thinking of is if you tell me now what i should budget for an Hiace for instance and when you go over there you see a good clean one which you like and its within our agreed budget then you could get a picture for me. I am also aware that it might be there today and gone tommorow. Once again thanks a lot

Hi Femmy,
First and foremost i must commend the great work you are doing on nairaland, you are one of the very few trusted Nigerians from the testimonies i have read about you, Mind you i have spent the better part of my day going through all your thread from 0 to 59 as you can see from when i posted this past midnight and to be honest i am kind of exhausted and spoilt for choice. Do you personally inspect the cars you buy for your client as in do all the necessary checks to make sure the car is not a damage import WITH LOTS OF WAHALA, or some kind of insurance write off.
Now to the main reason i have decided to write to you, i am interested in getting a bus either tokumbor or fairly used these are my preference
Toyota Hiace
Toyota townace
Hyundai H100
vw transporter

The year is not that relevant but something not too old, my budget range is 600k to 700k, will it be enough to get me a realiable Bus? i would be grateful if you could provide me with the quotes and pictures if possible even if its of buses that are above my budget. I look forward to hearing from you and possibly do some business with you

Fhemmmy: Thanks for your comment and you are appreciated for being on our thread.
Good thing cant be reveal in a rush oh, and because this ride is from Canada and not Russia, we wanna take time to showcase am . . . You know what i mean? . . . but spend more time on the thread and you will see the full pix.
Trust me, that is how special we will treat your own ride ordered from us soon too . . . Looking forward to serving you too

I agree with you Bros Fhemmmy, na small small them dey eat hot banga soup with starch from where i come from o (Delta State) if you rush am he go burn your mouth. So carry go Bros Fhemmmy keep unwraping the thing small small, we go dey follow am until the ride reach naija.

Fhemmmy: Yes, We can

I am a withness, you actually CAN